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Blue3k:
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The clown that citing random news articles to make flawed analysis is saying dont believe numbers. The Nigerian education system failed you. USA is safer thsn Botswana unlees you have proof other wise. You'd just runaway when ask to cite figures.

I asked you to provide dats drom NBS and FBI crime stats. All you can do give random anecdotes. You didnt even have common sense to use per capita figures so we can do apples to apples comparison of crime.

Who has time to counter obvious garbage? You think I'm jobless like you? Your ''research'' claims America, which has 300 million guns in circulation - one per citizen, and an annual homicide rate of 40,000, is safer than Botswana, a country that is Africa's most peaceful and prosperous nation, with near zero crime. THAT ALONE shows your research is utter GARBAGE, requiring no further analysis.

Rosskiki:
What has politicians going anywhere got to do with anything? Life is not just about ''politicians'' and politics, Mr. Man. Don't let them define your life for you.

it's unfortunate even you do not understand your post very well, you're talking of security here.

People who can afford the best for themselves still leave your 'safe' Nigeria to 'unsafe' America despite having knowledge of the level of insecurity in Nigeria yet you're asking what it has to do with them.

keep being delusional, am waiting for your nextline because that's where it ends.


Come to think of it, America has 300 million guns in circulation all because there's empirical data to back this up, do we have such here to ascertain the exact number of guns flowing illegally in Nigeria?

each and every day you must hear about gun related violent crime in at least 2 states in Nigeria, if it's not kidnapping, it's robbery or even pickpockets who are still armed... all of these arms are still illegal by the way

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Rosskiki:
Who has time to counter obvious garbage? You think I'm jobless like you? Your ''research'' claims America, which has 300 million guns in circulation - one per citizen, and an annual homicide rate of 40,000, is safer than Botswana, a country that is Africa's most peaceful and prosperous nation, with near zero crime. THAT ALONE shows your research is utter GARBAGE, requiring no further analysis.

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Lol delusional Nigerian runaway as soon they asked to provide stats to back up claim like I said. Continue your chestbesting since thats al you an do. Im glad you at least know you cant argue stats even when given opportunity.

Botswana hasnt updated its stats since 2011 so yes the claim stands. Maybe you want to claim a country with double the homicide rate per capita cut it down in record time with it being news.

Rosskiki:
Who has time to counter obvious garbage? You think I'm jobless like you? Your ''research'' claims America, which has 300 million guns in circulation - one per citizen, and an annual homicide rate of 40,000, is safer than Botswana, a country that is Africa's most peaceful and prosperous nation, with near zero crime. THAT ALONE shows your research is utter GARBAGE, requiring no further analysis.

300million guns in circulation(bros use your imagination a little) and only 40,000 death per year with that population in the country, trust me the country is safe...if Nigeria should have half/quarter of that numbers of gun circulated among the citizen, trust me no one will be left in the country...we would have finished ourselves

300million guns in circulation, wallahi I dey fear....if ordinary 20million guns should be in circulation in naija, u sef no go dey alive to dey talk.....am sure guns in circulation in Nigeria among citizen is not even up to 2million and see what we face everyday

With this number you presented, America na heaven compare to my country but I still don't like them

Arewa people,the Muslim brainwashed terrorists,the one Nigeria Apologists and their Fulani masters are here trying to justify the atrocities of their brothers against the Nigerian states.

OK let me even agree that there are more gun violence in the USA compared to that of Nigeria but I will also let you know that the law enforcement agents are up against the task for anyone.found guilty of killing. This is completely opposite of Nigeria where those who perpetuate crimes against village and defenceless woman in the middle of the night for no justify reason are called on the negotiation table,granted amnesty, granted large expanse of land and parted at the back.

Do you know that people freely walk around with linced gun in the united States? This simply means that in the absence of the police to protect you,you canresult to self help by engaging on the enemy. But here,men are helpless in the presence of Fulani herdsmen, bokoharam and kidnappers and the army or police are sympathetic to some of these criminals. The army will rather raze down an entire village than go after the criminals.

You people are so damn stupiiiid and you have no argument.

henryobinna:
it's unfortunate even you do not understand your post very well, you're talking of security here.

People who can afford the best for themselves still leave your 'safe' Nigeria to 'unsafe' America despite having knowledge of the level of insecurity in Nigeria yet you're asking what it has to do with them.

Dude, people go to America precisely because despite its very high crime rate, it has successfully used its media to downplay/ignore that crime rate, and make it seem insignificant. It is only when you watch local TV news in American cities that you know how many shootings take place there daily. This deceit influences everyone who visits America, including Nigerian politicians.

Come to think of it, America has 300 million guns in circulation all because there's empirical data to back this up, do we have such here to ascertain the exact number of guns flowing illegally in Nigeria?

We KNOW that the overwhelming majority of Nigerians DO NOT OWN GUNS.

In America it is the opposite.

each and every day you must hear about gun related violent crime in at least 2 states in Nigeria, if it's not kidnapping, it's robbery or even pickpockets who are still armed... all of these arms are still illegal by the way

Each and every day you must hear about people being shot dead in EVERY AMERICAN CITY. Well, YOU don't hear it because CNN doesn't show you. But Americans hear it, and see the bodybags in their local TV news reports daily.

beejaay:
300million guns in circulation(bros use your imagination a little) and only 40,000 death per year with that population in the country, trust me the country is safe...if Nigeria should have half/quarter of that numbers of gun circulated among the citizen, trust me no one will be left in the country...we would have finished ourselves

300million guns in circulation, wallahi I dey fear....if ordinary 20million guns should be in circulation in naija, u sef no go dey alive to dey talk.....am sure guns in circulation in Nigeria among citizen is not even up to 2million and see what we face everyday

With this number you presented, America na heaven compare to my country but I still don't like them

Oh, so now we must praise them for ''only'' killing 40,000 of themselves each year?

Shouldn't you be using your brain instead and asking them what the hell they are doing with 300 million guns in the hands of private citizens - an utter barbarism?

Instead of questioning their savagery in that regard, you are placing Nigeria as hypothetically worse than them, due to your tragic slave mentality. You've created a phantom Nigeria in your head, one armed with 300 million privately-held guns, with us ''finishing ourselves''', simply to place yourself as worse than America. That is what inferiority complex does. It turns you mental.

Get this: Nigeria is MORE CIVILIZED than them, which is why we do NOT have a ''one gun per person'' practice or policy in Nigeria.

Understood?

Rosskiki:
Dude, people go to America precisely because despite its very high crime rate, it has successfully used its media to downplay/ignore that crime rate, and make it seem insignificant. It is only when you watch local TV news in American cities that you know how many shootings take place there daily. This deceit influences everyone who visits America, including Nigerian politicians.




We KNOW that the overwhelming majority of Nigerians DO NOT OWN GUNS.

In America it is the opposite.



Each and every day you must hear about people being shot dead in EVERY AMERICAN CITY. Well, YOU don't hear it because CNN doesn't show you. But Americans hear it, and see the bodybags in their local TV news reports daily.

who told you I watch CNN? do you even know my source of news and information?

I don't know your source of the daily crimes in America, I'd be glad you provide one. but I can list verifiable news sources citing all the gun related violent crimes that oocured the past weeek in Nigeria. Crazy fun fact, even security operatives are involved in the violent crimes against Nigerians in Nigeria and mad shit is they get away with it.


From all points and all of your responses on this thread I can safely say you're just being delusional, thinking Nigeria is safer than the US, the number of people from allover the would moving there not just for economic reason but for violence in their countries including Nigeria should give you an insight.

And by the way, clearly we have our different biases here.

Myself am a pro gun guy, if I were to be given the powers it should be legal for citizens to own guns long as they meet the requirements, after all never have had a gun shooting at people by itself.

and one more time to the OP have a look at this link and the attached screenshots.
https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp

henryobinna:
who told you I watch CNN? do you even know my source of news and information?

I don't know your source of the daily crimes in America, I'd be glad you provide one.

What about every local news station in that country?

Here are a few homicides from just this week in Chicago, ONE CITY:

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2019/8/3/20752655/joshua-smith-2-wounded-shooting-outside-fernwood-imperial-motel

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2019/7/27/8933255/man-found-fatally-shot-in-park-manor-home-police

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2019/7/28/8934141/person-shot-to-death-in-harvey

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2019/7/27/8932668/police-investigating-homicide-aurora-benton-woman

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2019/7/20/20701630/friday-shootings-roundup

Note: We haven't gone to New York o..., or LA, or Houston, or Dallas, or Detroit, or Boston, or Baltimore, or Vegas, or San Francisco, or DC, or Philly...

but I can list verifiable news sources citing all the gun related violent crimes that oocured the past weeek in Nigeria.

Yeah...I'm sure you can...

henryobinna:
and one more time to the OP have a look at this link and the attached screenshots.
https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp

Kai....bro, who did this to you?

That FAKE research claims the USA is as safe as France and Ireland.

IRELAND!

According to that ''research'', war-ravaged, bombed-out Iraq and Pakistan are safer than both Ghana and Botswana.

How can you be so dumb as to accept this nonsense?

Take it or leave it.

Rosskiki is basically right. If you count crimes against blacks and minorities, crimes rate against them goes up exponentially.

Even when blacks move to the so call peaceful affluent areas, they are targeted at a higher rate than whites mostly by the types of boys who did the Texas shooting. And guess what? By the parents of those kids and constituted authority too.

It does not absolve Nigeria crime rate but you can choose an area in Nigeria that are much safer than the US.

The point here is that blacks are targeted regardless of how rich or poor you are in the US than in Nigeria. But branding will not let you see that.

Nigerian universities are even relatively much safer than anywhere else in the world.

henryobinna:
and one more time to the OP have a look at this link and the attached screenshots.
https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp

Seems you are just coming to terms with a rare foo lishness I have observed about some Nigerians, including those in office;they conjure figures from their a rses and want better enlightened people to take it as fact.
It's in Nigeria,a top government official will tell you:we exported 50 tonnes of gold,we have the largest platinium deposit in the world,we made $5billion from the export of raw hide,we have 250million people,etc.All kinds of crazy,impossible stats,that commonsense should tell anyone it's impossible.When faced with real statistics,they run away or stick to their foo lishness.
The Op just does what Nigerians are good at,lying and conjuring figures.

doctokwus:
Seems you are just coming to terms with a rare foo lishness I have observed about some Nigerians, including those in office;they conjure figures from their a rses and want better enlightened people to take it as fact.
It's in Nigeria,a top government official will tell you:we exported 50 tonnes of gold,we have the largest platinium deposit in the world,we made $5billion from the export of raw hide,we have 250million people,etc.All kinds of crazy,impossible stats,that commonsense should tell anyone it's impossible.When faced with real statistics,they run away or stick to their foo lishness.
The Op just does what Nigerians are good at,lying and conjuring figures.

Another illiterate typing horse manure.

googi:
Take it or leave it.

Rosskiki is basically right. If you count crimes against blacks and minorities, crimes rate against them goes up exponentially.

Even when blacks move to the so call peaceful affluent areas, they are targeted at a higher rate than whites mostly by the types of boys who did the Texas shooting. And guess what? By the parents of those kids and constituted authority too.

It does not absolve Nigeria crime rate but you can choose an area in Nigeria that are much safer than the US.

The point here is that blacks are targeted regardless of how rich or poor you are in the US than in Nigeria. But branding will not let you see that.

Nigerian universities are even relatively much safer than anywhere else in the world.

Good points, but a large number of whites are slaughtered by their fellow whites in America each year. Tens of thousands in fact. Again, very much under-reported by US national TV networks.

Americans downplay and under-report their crime rates because they think about the consequences of airing their dirty linen before the whole world. Eg they could lose billions of dollars in tourism and investment coming in from across the world, leading to massive job losses and economic decline.

But Nigerians? Just one incident and the whole country is on facebook & twitter shouting ''we are a failed country!!!''

Useless, hopeless set of people.

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Rosskiki:
SPARE ME YOUR INFERIORITY COMPLEX WROUGHT GARBAGE, Mr ''at least this, at least that''.

Typical Nigerian inferiority complex, to always seek out how the other (usually white) must be 'better' than you in every circumstance, even against all rationality and judgement. Cure that sickness in your head that tells you you must be worse than the worst in every situation. That is your real problem.

Oh, and go do some research into US topics like Flint, Michigan, and police brutality, where US state actors and law enforcement indulge in killing US citizens with reckless abandon.

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The real inferiority complexed person here is you. If i look clearly, it's not patriotism that made you open the thread, it's 30k BMC stipends that keeps you up at night comparing yourself with a country that's eons way better than yours. Bokoharam, fulani herdsmen, bandits, kidnappers, IMN, cultists, so much that Nigerians are flooding the US embassy in droves applying for Visas. How come Americans with all the insecurity you claim they got ain't trooping to your embassy to apply for yours?

EricBloodAxe:

The real inferiority complexed person here is you. If i look clearly, it's not patriotism that made you open the thread, it's 30k BMC stipends that keeps you up at night comparing yourself with a country that's eons way better than yours.

Mr inferiority complex, this thread is not about which country is ''better'' - whatever the hell that means, since ''better'' is relative and subjective. This is about HOMICIDE RATES and INSECURITY.

Bokoharam, fulani herdsmen, bandits, kidnappers, IMN, cultists, so much that Nigerians are flooding the US embassy in droves applying for Visas. How come Americans with all the insecurity you claim they got ain't trooping to your embassy to apply for yours?

Because they'll make more money in America. America is ECONOMICALLY buoyant. That is why people go there. To make money. That should not make you blind to the fact that it is UNSAFE compared to a great many countries, including nations with far less buoyant economies.

You see, one thing many of you young Nigerians need to learn is that just because a country is ''better'' than your country in one or more aspects, it does not mean it is ''better'' than your country in EVERY aspect, and cannot be criticised or questioned. ALL nations and peoples have severe flaws. You should be man enough to recognise and criticise the fallibility of others. Rid yourselves of inferiority complex and low self-esteem. All men are created equal by the Almighty.

doctokwus:
Seems you are just coming to terms with a rare foo lishness I have observed about some Nigerians, including those in office;they conjure figures from their a rses and want better enlightened people to take it as fact.
It's in Nigeria,a top government official will tell you:we exported 50 tonnes of gold,we have the largest platinium deposit in the world,we made $5billion from the export of raw hide,we have 250million people,etc.All kinds of crazy,impossible stats,that commonsense should tell anyone it's impossible.When faced with real statistics,they run away or stick to their foo lishness.
The Op just does what Nigerians are good at,lying and conjuring figures.

for real this has really weakened me. you don't even know where to start from when attending to their issues. we don't have a database or something of that sort that records and track of events, but somehow with the lack of this someone still claims we're doing better even without data to back up the claim.

Rosskiki:
Oh, so now we must praise them for ''only'' killing 40,000 of themselves each year?

Shouldn't you be using your brain instead and asking them what the hell they are doing with 300 million guns in the hands of private citizens - an utter barbarism?

Instead of questioning their savagery in that regard, you are placing Nigeria as hypothetically worse than them, due to your tragic slave mentality. You've created a phantom Nigeria in your head, armed with 300 million private guns, with us ''finishing up ourselves''', simply to place yourself as worse than America. That is what inferiority complex does. It turns you mental.

Get this: Nigeria is MORE CIVILIZED than them, which is why we do NOT have a ''one gun per person'' practice or policy in Nigeria.

Understood?

Its obvious your brain is leaking maggot if not it would have shown the creative and imagination it requires to process well what i said...if you can't see sophistication in the population with over 300million gun licence minus the illegal ones and only counting 40000 lives compare to a country with a gun licence less than a million or two and double of that casualty then you are he greatest Buffon ever liveth...

Result to insult again and I will give it to you and your whole useless generations

beejaay:
Its obvious your brain is leaking maggot if not it would have shown the creative and imagination it requires to process well what i said...if you can't see sophistication in the population with over 300million gun licence minus the illegal ones and only counting 40000 lives compare to a country with a gun licence less than a million or two and double of that casualty then you are he greatest Buffon ever liveth...

Result to insult again and I will give it to you and your whole useless generations

Where are your sources that show that 80,000 Nigerians are murdered by their fellow Nigerians each year? The last time we saw those kind of figures was during the Biafran war of the 1960s.

Where is this warfare happening please?

In Uranus?

Rosskiki:
Americans downplay and under-report their crime rates because they think about the consequences of airing their dirty linen before the whole world. Eg they could lose billions of dollars in tourism and investment coming in from across the world, leading to massive job losses and economic decline.

But Nigerians? Just one incident and the whole country is on facebook & twitter shouting ''we are a failed country!!!''

Useless, hopeless set of people.

Who is this Buffon again sef... So Nigeria govt doesn't downplay crime rate..it's not a secret in Nigeria that when govt sources said ten people were killed that the actual numbers killed is times three of that...

Let them kill your family and your lineage and I promise you we won't go to Facebook or Twitter to call on the govt cos we would see it as one incident..don't worry it shall get to you and no one will talk for you

Rosskiki:
Today, a 21 old white boy carrying an AK 47 walked into a packed shopping mall in El Paso, Texas, shooting dead 20 people and injuring 26 others.

Totally unprovoked.

Welcome to America.

In America, 40,000 people are killed by gun violence every year, and those are just the official numbers reported.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/us/gun-deaths.html

In Nigeria, a particularly bad year of Boko Haram, Fulani herdsmen, and kidnapper activity might result in 1,000 to 1,500 deaths, if that.

Yet Nigerians would have you believe that the whole country is ''on fire'' as a result of this.

Is it time for the FG to warn Nigerians that they are heading to an even bigger fire by visiting the United States?

I think Nigeria citizens are always De marketing there country to the detriment of other countries

beejaay:
Who is this Buffon again sef... So Nigeria govt doesn't downplay crime rate

I wasn't talking of the US or Nigerian governments and their statistical accuracy or otherwise. I was talking about the way the media/people of both countries 'under-report' and 'over-report' their crime occurrence. Try to understand before responding.

Rosskiki:
Kai....bro, who did this to you?

That FAKE research claims the USA is as safe as France and Ireland.

IRELAND!

According to that ''research'', war-ravaged, bombed-out Iraq and Pakistan are safer than both Ghana and Botswana.

How can you be so dumb as to accept this nonsense?

Every research is fake to you provided it didn't support your assertion...who did this to your leaking brain ?

Rosskiki:
What about every local news station in that country?

Here are a few homicides from just this week in Chicago, ONE CITY:

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2019/8/3/20752655/joshua-smith-2-wounded-shooting-outside-fernwood-imperial-motel

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2019/7/27/8933255/man-found-fatally-shot-in-park-manor-home-police

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2019/7/28/8934141/person-shot-to-death-in-harvey

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2019/7/27/8932668/police-investigating-homicide-aurora-benton-woman

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2019/7/20/20701630/friday-shootings-roundup

Note: We haven't gone to New York o..., or LA, or Houston, or Dallas, or Detroit, or Boston, or Baltimore, or Vegas, or San Francisco, or DC, or Philly...



Yeah...I'm sure you can...

Here you are quoting too and you seem to call this fact

Rosskiki:
Believe this American-penned GARBAGE, and you're even dumber than previously thought. According to that ''research'', America is safer to live in than Zambia, Trinidad, Botswana, Togo, and many other nations!

Same way American-dominated organisations name other countries as ''most corrupt on earth'' etc, when it is AMERICA that starts WHOLE WARS that kill millions based on lies, just to conquer those nations and STEAL their resources for the American elite to plunder. As happened in Iraq.

You even called this garbage...you seriously need help, you are worst than lair Mohammed..
Abeg people should help this guy before he run super mad and enter market oooo

Blue3k:
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Lol delusional Nigerian runaway as soon they asked to provide stats to back up claim like I said. Continue your chestbesting since thats al you an do. Im glad you at least know you cant argue stats even when given opportunity.

Botswana hasnt updated its stats since 2011 so yes the claim stands. Maybe you want to claim a country with double the homicide rate per capita cut it down in record time with it being news.

Is this one also garbage Mr rossiki leaking brain??

Asquare84:
I think Nigeria citizens are always De marketing there country to the detriment of other countries

Thank you very much. The way Nigerians talk about Fulani herdsmen, you wouldn't know that the actual number of people killed by those herdsmen per annum is roughly equal to just one US city's annual homicide rate. 800 people are killed in Chicago per year for instance: https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/31/us/chicago-murders-drop-2018/index.html.

But you'll never see Americans going online to proclaim the 'collapse' or 'failure' of their country based on these stats.

Rosskiki:
I wasn't talking of the US or Nigerian governments and their statistical accuracy or otherwise. I was talking about the way the media/people of both countries 'under-report' and 'over-report' their crime occurrence. Try to understand before responding.

So get small sense to discuss without calling people names beforeyou think na only you get mouth to abuse and call names...next time when discussing, stick to the matter and not showing your poor upbringing cos if you think you dey craze, remember some dey crazier than you

beejaay:
So get small sense to discuss without calling people names beforeyou think na only you get mouth to abuse and call names...next time when discussing, stick to the matter and not showing your poor upbringing cos if you think you dey craze, remember some dey crazier than you

I see your joblessness is disturbing you this morning.

Go and hustle like your mates and stop bothering your elders.

Rosskiki:
I see your joblessness is disturbing you this morning.

Go and hustle like your mates and stop bothering your elders.

You get work??who go even employ a maggot head like you...if you get work you no go dey create useless thread up and down, discussing matters wey you no understand and no even need discussing cos of its obviousness