₦airaland Forum

ElsonMorali:
Yeah right. If Atiku had won you'd probably be glued to your radio set hoping he'd remember you in his cabinet lineup.

Now that he lost y'all are screaming we were never part of the elections. I'm glad you remember that your leader called of the election boycott waiting to see if Atiku would win.

Well, we are all here waiting for your next step, street parading in the name of protests. After which there will be python dance 2.0 or is it 3.0 reloaded. Then more Igbo youths are killed and the rest of you scamper back to your parent's houses till 2023 when PDP fields another Fulani candidate and you all queue behind him again and the vicious cycle continues for you.

If you are serious about your Republic you know what to do. Two options, attack police stations and military facilities and government facilities and destroy them...if you can, or ask your political leaders who are currently holding power to relinquish same and all of you head home and declare your


Republic.

But we know y'all enjoy one Nigeria too much to do anything really drastic like that. All you can do is make mouth online and disturb the peace of internet users.

Bla bla bla bla ......
Vacuous empty blab of a babbler!



Just go on lying to your self-deluded self.



IPOB is not interested in your useless politics.
The same useless transactional politics that has failed to raise the quality of life in Nigeria!

Let those who feel Nigeria is their patrimony
have it to their feel.
People of Biafra are going home to Biafraland.
We are going home
to actuate our God-willed manifest destiny,
our golden destination in Biafra, the Light of Africland!


And you know what?
the Justice of the Most High God is with us!
The Almighty Holy Wisdom of God
which is ever watchful and ever present
is exalting valleys and bringing down mountains for us!
It is God that is at work.
We are only in league and in legion with Him,
He who alone rules all that exist in Justice and Love.




And you, who have chosen to tread the path of Sanballat,
the path of dishonour,
I ask, where is thy vision?
Where is thy sight?
Have you blinded your soul with hate and bitterness?
Why have you castrate yourself with falsehood.
Why do you persist in vilifying those whose aspiration to peace and advancement does not threaten your life?

And why have you chosen to be a slave in your own house.
Consider well.

Ugwuoke347:
[s]Bla bla bla bla ......
Vacuous empty blab of a babbler!



Just go on lying to your self-deluded self.



IPOB is not interested in your useless politics.
The same useless transactional politics that has failed to raise the quality of life in Nigeria!

Let those who feel Nigeria is their patrimony
have it to their feel.
People of Biafra are going home to Biafraland.
We are going home
to actuate our God-willed manifest destiny,
our golden destination in Biafra, the Light of Africland!


And you know what?
the Justice of the Most High God is with us!
The Almighty Holy Wisdom of God
which is ever watchful and ever present
is exalting valleys and bringing down mountains for us!
It is God that is at work.
We are only in league and in legion with Him,
He who alone rules all that exist in Justice and Love.




And you, who have chosen to tread the path of Sanballat,
the path of dishonour,
I ask, where is thy vision?
Where is thy sight?
Have you blinded your soul with hate and bitterness?
Why have you castrate yourself with falsehood.
Why do you persist in vilifying those whose aspiration to peace and advancement does not threaten your life?

And why have you chosen to be a slave in your own house.
Consider well.[/s]

I don't even know what you're yammering about bro. Pick the points I made one by one and refute them. That's how to show intelligent rebuttal.

Suddenly, anyone that speaks the truth hates you. Yet when Kanu was spewing bile and caustic bitterness and corrosive hatred not so long ago, y'all were lapping it up like it was all ice-cream.

No, I don't hate you or your ethnic group. I have no reason to. Aside from not wanting to rack up unnecessary Karmic consequences for myself, everyone is unique and I have acquaintances from the major ethnicities in Nigeria that I respect.

But all I've done here is to show the truth the way I see it. Go and read it again without the persecution complex mode on and you'll better understand my points.

You want to refute them? Be my guest.

ElsonMorali:
I don't even know what you're yammering about bro. Pick the points I made one by one and refute them. That's how to show intelligent rebuttal.

Suddenly, anyone that speaks the truth hates you. Yet when Kanu was spewing bile and caustic bitterness and corrosive hatred not so long ago, y'all were lapping it up like it was all ice-cream.

No, I don't hate you or your ethnic group. I have no reason to. Aside from not wanting to rack up unnecessary Karmic consequences for myself, everyone is unique and I have acquaintances from the major ethnicities in Nigeria that I respect.

But all I've done here is to show the truth the way I see it. Go and read it again without the persecution complex mode on and you'll better understand my points.

You want to refute them? Be my guest.

Look elsewhere
for the multiplication of words
which you seek.
I would rather not indulge you.

Ugwuoke347:
Look elsewhere
for the multiplication of words
which you seek.
I would rather not indulge you.

All you can do is multiply your wailings right? Typical. You didn't mind writing the Book of Lamentations to cry about my post, but when I challenged you t an intellectual discourse it becomes a burden.

I believe wailing is your hobby. Don't let me stop you.

Bros, it's high time you people realize that there is NOTHING like permanent 3 major tribes in Nigeria but we have SEVERAL tribes, any or many of which can transform from a minor to a major tribe e.g Ijaw tribe or coalesce into one super tribe e.g Hausa-Fulani.

EagleNest:
If one of the three stands in a tripod breaks off, how will the remaining two carry the weight of Nigeria. I prefer three stands that carries and distributed weight equally. Alliance of two stands against the third will always cause problems. I don't know how 2023 will be.

Please, don't say what you aren't sure of.




Try to know the meaning of PILOT schemes .
Pilot States to implement conditional cash transfer to the poorest Nigerians is NOT a measure of poverty rates or Human Development Index of these States.


The conditional cash transfer was eventually done in ALL the States of the Federation.

Stingman:
Igbos has less misery than the Yoruba and the Hausa fulani and you know it.

Igbo wants equality, justice and freedom for all.

Igbo hates quota system, federal character and the development of SW and north for 50 years while other parts are abandoned.

Using the poverty rating below...you will see that you have more misery and it will continue...irrespective of the support from the federal government.

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List of 9 pilot test states for the poorest Nigerians, the poor receive N5,000 handout.

Bauchi, Borno, Kwara , Kogi , Niger - North

Cross River - South South

Ekiti , Osun and Oyo - South West

Nil - South East

But in 1999 at the Jos Convention, OBJ contested an election and defeated

Alex Ekueme
Jim Nwobodo
Philip Asiodu
Don Etiebet
Ghraham Douglass

Stingman:
From 2023...what you see you take...

When the Yorubas were supported by bringing Obj from prison to become the president, you nattering nabobs didn't see anything wrong with it...

But your people have said it several times and judging by their body languages that you are not contesting for the Presidency in 2023 but will support Tambuwal, Kwankwanso or Atiku to succeed Buhari in 2023.

How is that the fault of anybody?

CaptBabosa:
I do not blame okwadike for his comments. It's really disheartening to see a group of people gang up to upress and suppress their neighbors whom are supposed to be brothers in the same country and should have equal rights and privileges to be president if desired. The north and west alliance to continue to throw their weight on only hausa/yoruba presidential candidates is really annoying. I don't want to see Nigeria break as for me every minority group tiv , idoma , ibibio or nupe should have equal rights to be president. Shouldn't be Igbo hausa and Yoruba affair alone.

Eeyah.....sorry o

Justiceleague1:
Thiis where you will see all sorts of headless chickens and noise making coneheaded structures... Everything Igbo is of interest to them...
When arewa made similar statements that Buhari hasn't really been a good northerner,that they will look for another northerner come 2023 to replace him, nobody from among these irritating accursed coneheaded structures spoke a word. No ewedu ZomB said anything.
But look at them on here giving speech simply cos the word Igbo is now something like someone snatching their beloved amala..



Lzaa immhotep bastardmod adeibeku

In as much as understand your points (and also support some of them in the spirit of equity), however you need to know certain things;

1) Zoning exist in the PDP constitution but NOT in the Constitution of Nigeria or APC

2) It would have been far easier for an Igbo to emerge as the president in 2023 if we still have ONLY one dominant part (like the PDP) and several smaller parties that can't win presidential elections.
3) The emergence of the APC with the two party system mean that it may not be easy to force both APC and PDP to field Igbo candidates in 2023, so the alternative is for Igbos to get the ticket in one party (they have better presence in the PDP) and work very hard in convincing other Nigerians to vote for this candidate.

kettykin:
if everyone has right to contest then why is there zoning. All igbos are asking is for fairness, if we're not going to practice fairness then let's go free for all and the highest bidder takes it.

You practice federal character in school admissions and appointments of ministry heads and permanent secretary but where it matters most in the presidential election and appointments of military officials and paramilitary officials you refuse to practice fairness

Bros, Igbos are everywhere in the S/West o.


I traveled to see my relatives in our home town last week and I was shock that even in my grandma's village, there are Igbos that are over 50years living there and some even have Cocoa farms in the thick forests and one of my relatives has just impregnated one Igbo lady called Ijeoma in that Village!

kettykin:
I have traveled Nigeria more than thrice, i have been to every state in Nigeria and i know what I am saying. Jos and kano igbos are more than all igbos in south west except Lagos

But Igbos are not America and Igbos don't have the capacity to cripple Nigeria.


They depend on Nigeria more than Nigeria depend on them.

kettykin:
If you check the news yesterday, France decided to apply e tax on Google, Facebook and other American internet companies within 24 hours trump vowed to keep American wine above French wine.

Igbos should prepare a very strong hit back policy.
If igbos fail on this, igbos would be a 10th class race. Igbos should hit Nigeria so hard that Nigeria would be crippled for life.

Nobody has the capacity to deny or give the presidency to the Igbos in the ways you are insinuating.

kettykin:
Denying igbos 2023 is simply a declaration of war on igbos and it will be decisively handled .on what ground or on what premise would Nigerians declare igbos will not be allowed to rule.
I now understand Nnamdi kanu

1) Igbos are not interested in the presidency of the zoo.

2) Igbo will not contest but support Tambuwal, Kwankwanso or Atiku in 2023.

3)No Election in Biafraland

4) Biafra or death.

5) Atiku is Cumming.


Which of the options above do you really want?

bosco2017:
Obj was made Nigerian president to pacify Yorubas after they killed Abiola so it possible for the political class to zone presidency to Igbos to encourage them to stay in Nigeria and be part of Nigeria and any thing to the contrary is promoting the emergence of Biafra. Once Igbo elites support Biafran movement , Nigeria is gone .

Eeyah, see frustrations...Kpele o

NkayStory:
You finalky found courage to crawl from your hole were you hid all the while RUGA was raging.

All things being equal,a yoruba person WILL NIOT BE PRESIDENT IN 2023 of a Nigeria gbos will be part of,come what may..

You can take that to the bank...This country must disintegrate by any means necessary..Many of us are already sick of Nigeria,yorubas and fulani-herdsmen.

Have respect for the old man sir.



You too will become an old man very soon.

Omoslim26:
If Apc fields tinubu or any yoruba man it wil mark d end of apc bcus it wil cause dem to split yorubas do nt desearve votes frm ss,mbelt,se is a no banker bt whoever pdp choose to give d ticket wil win wit ease bcus wit a divided apc in d north it means pdp wil get higher votes frm d north d ss se belongs to pdp mbelt wil prefer pdp to apc bt d truth is i dont see pdp giving se or ss d ticket so power remains in the north come 2023 unless another aliance is formed by ss se sw nd mbelt.
And someone shud pls tel this old man to STFU nd smoke his weed in peace

So 70% of the Buildings in Nigeria belong to the Igbos!


Igbo Amaka!

ikestephen:
we operated best b4 the amalgamation. You cal us spoiler, 70% of the buildings in nigeria belong to the igbo's aside govt establishments. We just want to be free, back to how we were b4 d amalgamation, since we have failed politically.

oyatz:
Have respect for the old man sir.



You too will become an old man very soon.

ok tanx for d advise bt wen i get old too i wud surely be living a quite life far away from dis country's bloody politics

oyatz:
Bros, it's high time you people realize that there is NOTHING like permanent 3 major tribes in Nigeria but we have SEVERAL tribes, any or many of which can transform from a minor to a major tribe e.g Ijaw tribe or coalesce into one super tribe e.g Hausa-Fulani.

Of course there is no permanent three major tribes but you know none of these three will be smaller than they are. But regardless of size, it is equity and justice that matters most to all tribes.

You don't seems to get it uptil now.
The problem is NOT the North or the S/West but the people that want to be president. Nobody will call anyone and hand over the presidency to them just like that!


For now, only the APC and the PDP have strong structures and wide acceptability to win the Presidential election.

The Igbo politicians in these two parties aren't aspiring to be the presidential candidates of their parties,so how can they become president in 2023 and whose fault?

The Igbo political class have formidable investment in the PDP but they are not mounting pressure on the party to consider them for the ticket come 2023 rather they spend their time and energy (like Sambalat and Tobiahs in the Bible) on how to prevent Tinubu or any other candidate from the SW from emerging the President in 2023.

EagleNest:
For the example you cited, I hope you understand the history behind Germany, Britain and America becoming a nation, in their own merits and terms. It is based on a mutual agreement and not by fiat. Britain forced us together and gave us a name which we bear up till now.

Talking about Britain, have you idea it comprised of mini nations within a big nation with greater power of autonomy for each of them.They evolved a system that works for them. They built it.

One of our greatest undoing as a people is pretending that Nigeria is working or has worked. And sorry, in this modern age of reasoning, no one or entity wants to be taken for a ride, even in the so called UK today, there is still agitation for secession up till last week.

No one is blackmailing others as you allege except that when equity and justice becomes an illusion, what do you do? Pretend? Play along? or Simply walk out? Not every culture knows how to pretend or play along waiting for the right time to strike. It is easy to say that you lobby politically to go to the centre but who exactly do you lobby? Is it the North or the South West? Do you sincerely trust an Igbo man to be at the saddle considering all the mud slings, mutual suspicions and mistrust of many decades. You don't honestly want an Igbo man's leadership, but you somewhat want them to accept their fate and work it out somehow. Of course, they will prefer to work it out in their own way but that too you are uncomfortable!

Will this forced marriage still last with all these cracks? I sincerely doubt! It's been so messy lately. Is being Nigerian president, the Igbos utmost need? I will say, naah! They've all these while survived on their own, and their dignity still intact. So may be something different will appeal or catch interest.

Let's hope Nigeria doesn't break but that hope is strongly premised on attitude of today's President to Nigerians, especially the ones that critiques him.

oyatz:
You don't seems to get it uptil now.
The problem is NOT the North or the S/West but the people that want to be president. Nobody will call anyone and hand over the presidency to them just like that!


For now, only the APC and the PDP have strong structures and wide acceptability to win the Presidential election.

The Igbo politicians in these two parties aren't aspiring to be the presidential candidates of their parties,so how can they become president in 2023 and whose fault?

The Igbo political class have formidable investment in the PDP but they are not mounting pressure on the party to consider them for the ticket come 2023 rather they spend their time and energy (like Sambalat and Tobiahs in the Bible) on how to prevent Tinubu or any other candidate from the SW from emerging the President in 2023.

Wow! You've said it all!

This is the truth people don't want to hear or reason with.

oyatz:
You don't seems to get it uptil now.
The problem is NOT the North or the S/West but the people that want to be president. Nobody will call anyone and hand over the presidency to them just like that!

For now, only the APC and the PDP have strong structures and wide acceptability to win the Presidential election.

The Igbo politicians in these two parties aren't aspiring to be the presidential candidates of their parties,so how can they become president in 2023 and whose fault

What happened to rotation of presidency?

Like I said historic mistrust will not allow this to happen regardless of party and the North doesn't even hide it.

Let Igbo man by mistake become a flag bearer in APC or PDP for instance, the North will align to another party with northern or western candidate and could may be tell us "rotation of presidency" is not binding to anyone which is correct. So theoretically you are right to say what you said, but practically it is a mirage.

1) Zoning of the presidency is in the Constitution of the PDP but not in the NOT in the Constitution of Nigeria or APC.

Rotational presidency between the North and South or between the 6 Geo-political zones or between all the tribes of Nigeria?

2) The North or anyother part of Nigeria is heterogeneous and have those who will definitely vote for an Igbo candidate. The onus lies on the Igbo candidates to increase this numbers.

3) By the way, why do some Igbos have this defeatist mentality that other Nigerians will not vote for them? Whose fault is this?
Can't the Igbos improve their approval ratings?

EagleNest:
What happened to rotation of presidency?

Like I said historic mistrust will not allow this to happen regardless of party and the North doesn't even hide it.

Let Igbo man by mistake become a flag bearer in APC or PDP for instance, the North will align to another party with northern or western candidate and could may be tell us "rotation of presidency" is not binding to anyone which is correct. So theoretically you are right to say what you said, but practically it is a mirage.

oyatz:
1) Zoning of the presidency is in the Constitution of the PDP but not in the NOT in the Constitution of Nigeria or APC.

Rotational presidency between the North and South or between the 6 Geo-political zones or between all the tribes of Nigeria?

2) The North or anyother part of Nigeria is heterogeneous and have those who will definitely vote for an Igbo candidate. The onus lies on the Igbo candidates to increase this numbers.

3) By the way, why do some Igbos have this defeatist mentality that other Nigerians will not vote for them? Whose fault is this?
Can't the Igbos improve their approval ratings?

On your first two points, time shall tell...

On your third point, Igbos are not fools. In an abusive marriage trying to please your partner doesn't always solve the problem. You rather tell me why you guys don't like Igbos despite all they've done to improve any community they live in. When it comes to power or military positions, you thread with cautions but not the other way round. You see, I'm beginning to feel and see that the soul of average Igbos is no longer in Nigeria project as it currently stands. I just hope I am wrong.

EagleNest:
What happened to rotation of presidency?

Like I said historic mistrust will not allow this to happen regardless of party and the North doesn't even hide it.

Let Igbo man by mistake become a flag bearer in APC or PDP for instance, the North will align to another party with northern or western candidate and could may be tell us "rotation of presidency" is not binding to anyone which is correct. So theoretically you are right to say what you said, but practically it is a mirage.

The PDP had a policy of rotational presidency before the SE politicians jettisoned the idea in 2011 because of GEJ. They were even reminded the SE was to produce someone who others would vote for in 2015 and they still refused so who is to blame, Igbo politicians or other Nigerians?

oyatz:
1) Zoning of the presidency is in the Constitution of the PDP but not in the NOT in the Constitution of Nigeria or APC.

Rotational presidency between the North and South or between the 6 Geo-political zones or between all the tribes of Nigeria?

2) The North or anyother part of Nigeria is heterogeneous and have those who will definitely vote for an Igbo candidate. The onus lies on the Igbo candidates to increase this numbers.

3) By the way, why do some Igbos have this defeatist mentality that other Nigerians will not vote for them? Whose fault is this?
Can't the Igbos improve their approval ratings?

@ your number 3 point, many had preached hate over the years against especially the Yorubas and the Hausas and it is already obvious to them that nobody would ever take the Igbos serious in national politics in a very long time till they change their ways.
The damage has been done, the healing period is what we all are waiting for