Nairalanders check this peaceful thread-question I asked Islam.non can answer nor continue the discussion, worst is that I was blocked to do anything there.pls search"MY CONFUSED QUESTIONS ABOUT ISLAM" in Islam Muslim section of religion. Can this guys help
Empiree
True2god
Demmy15
Help me do justice and answer me please!!

Help!

We are not here to read questions in form of epistles. You either ask your question (s) plain and clear so we understand where your going or where you are coming from.

So far, you lumped everything together. When you get out of your confusion holla at me again.

Ok sir....just search "my confused question about Islam" you'll see the quetions and conversation there....i cant quote you there if not i will do it....pls just search it sir(am not fighting nor arguing)quote author=Empiree post=80980829]We are not here to read questions in form of epistles. You either ask your question (s) plain and clear so we understand where your going or where you are coming from.

So far, you lumped everything together. When you get out of your confusion holla at me again.

[/quote]

Informer155:
Ok sir....just search "my confused question about Islam" you'll see the quetions and conversation there....i cant quote you there if not i will do it....pls just search it sir(am not fighting nor arguing)quote author=Empiree post=80980829]We are not here to read questions in form of epistles. You either ask your question (s) plain and clear so we understand where your going or where you are coming from.

So far, you lumped everything together. When you get out of your confusion holla at me again.

looks like you don't understand what I just said. I said you need to clarify your question (s). You simply wrote epistles and I can't figure out what you need exactly

Go to:
Religion-Islam Muslim group-my confused question about Islam.... That's all

Informer155:
Go to:
Religion-Islam Muslim group-my confused question about Islam.... That's all

I read your first post but I'm trying to understand your point. It just looks like you are talking to yourself, sir.

All the time you are replying you could simply retype your questions one after the other for clarity

Empiree:
I read your first post but I'm trying to understand your point. It just looks like you are talking to yourself, sir.

All the time you are replying you could simply retype your questions one after the other for clarity

OK let me bring it here one by one

Informer155:
OK let me bring it here one by one

ok

Q1


**The stories I read in Quran about Noah,John,Zacharias, Mary,Jesus etc is so unreal,funny and dramatic compared to the BIble.world believed that Bible existed more than 600 years before Quran.so which story should I believe in? Example:
Allah SWT said:

قَالَ رَبِّ اجْعَل لِّىٓ ءَايَةً  ۚ قَالَ ءَايَتُكَ أَلَّا تُكَلِّمَ النَّاسَ ثَلٰثَ لَيَالٍ سَوِيًّا
"[Zechariah] said, My Lord, make for me a sign. He said, Your sign is that you will not speak to the people for three nights, [being] sound."
Maryam 19: 10

"And, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, because thou believest not my words, which shall be fulfilled in their season." Luke1:20

which one is true between the two? and so many other stories

Informer155:
Q1


**The stories I read in Quran about Noah,John,Zacharias, Mary,Jesus etc is so unreal,funny and dramatic compared to the BIble.world believed that Bible existed more than 600 years before Quran.so which story should I believe in? Example:
Allah SWT said:

قَالَ رَبِّ اجْعَل لِّىٓ ءَايَةً  ۚ قَالَ ءَايَتُكَ أَلَّا تُكَلِّمَ النَّاسَ ثَلٰثَ لَيَالٍ سَوِيًّا
"[Zechariah] said, My Lord, make for me a sign. He said, Your sign is that you will not speak to the people for three nights, [being] sound."
Maryam 19: 10

"And, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, because thou believest not my words, which shall be fulfilled in their season." Luke1:20

which one is true between the two? and so many other stories

are you muslim or Christian?

Q2

**if Jesus in the Quran is a prophet, why don't we do what he says? where can I see his words in the Quran? beside he appeared more than Mohammeds name in the Bible.
.Allah SWT said:

قَالَ إِنِّى عَبْدُ اللَّهِ ءَاتٰىنِىَ الْكِتٰبَ وَجَعَلَنِى نَبِيًّا
"[Jesus] said, Indeed, I am the servant of Allah. He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet."
Maryam 19:30.

where are the scriptures given to him(Jesus)?or is it also the Quran? help

Those are the two important questions I asked sirs.two guys gave me answers......and disappeared when I replied them. Hope you guys won't disappear too

Informer155:
Those are the two important questions I asked sirs.two guys gave me answers......and disappeared when I replied them. Hope you guys won't disappear too

answer my question.

Emp.iree:
are you muslim or Christian?

And just because they have not replied you doesn't mean they "disappeared". Everyone has things to do. We don't live on NAIRALAND

Empiree:
answer my question.

Your question sir is so dumb and stVpid.

this young man asked questions based on what he read from the Quran and all you could come up with is asking him first if he is a christian or a muslim.

fact is, you dont have the answers he seek - or rather let me put it this way - you know the answers he seek but your penchant to lie in other to defend your religion is already showing.

FACT IS, ISLAM BORROWED FROM THE BIBLE, THE BUDDHA AND THE TALMUD TO WRITE YOUR QURAN. THE QURAN IS SO MIXED UP WITH TALES BY MOON..... THAT NONE OF YOU CAN CLARIFY IT - HENCE THE RESORT TO IMMENSE VIOLENCE TO SCARE PEOPLE FROM ASKING QUESTIONS BUT ONE THING I KNOW FOR A FACT - LIES DON'T STAND THE TEST OF TIME. THAT RELIGION WILL SURELY IMPLODE IN FUTURE WHEN MEN ARE MORE SMARTER, BOLDER AND STRONGER WITH LITTLE OR NO FEAR - THEN, THAT WHICH CANNOT STAND THE FUTURE SCRUTINY WILL FALL.

ISLAM: QURAN - BORROWED FROM THE BIBLE, THE TALMUD AND THE SANSKRIT

ISLAMIC PRAYER: BORROWED FROM THE BUDDHISM PRAYERS AND PRAYER BEADS

ISLAMIC MOON FASTING: BORROWED FROM THE ANCIENT ARAB PAGAN RELIGION DESTROYED BY MOHAMMED

ISLAMIC KAABA: THE KAABA WAS FORMERLY THE TEMPLE OF AN ARAB GOD WHERE PILGRIMS COME FROM VARIOUS PART OF THE WORLD TO MAKE BLOOD SACRIFICE. AFTER MOHAMMED DEFEATED THE TOWN OF HEJAZI IN THE CITY MECCA, HE CONVERTED THE TEMPLE TO ISLAM HOLY SITE!


WE KNOW ABOUT ISLAM BUT WE JUST CHOSE TO LET ME WALLOW IN THEIR DELUS....

Informer155:
Those are the two important questions I asked sirs.two guys gave me answers......and disappeared when I replied them. Hope you guys won't disappear too

DON'T EXPECT TO GET HONEST ANSWER FROM THAT JIHADIST!

obiekunie2:


Your question sir is so dumb and stVpid.

this young man asked questions based on what he read from the Quran and all you could come up with is asking him first if he is a christian or a muslim.

fact is, you dont have the answers he seek - or rather let me put it this way - you know the answers he seek but your penchant to lie in other to defend your religion is already showing.

FACT IS, ISLAM BORROWED FROM THE BIBLE, THE BUDDHA AND THE TALMUD TO WRITE YOUR QURAN. THE QURAN IS SO MIXED UP WITH TALES BY MOON..... THAT NONE OF YOU CAN CLARIFY IT - HENCE THE RESORT TO IMMENSE VIOLENCE TO SCARE PEOPLE FROM ASKING QUESTIONS BUT ONE THING I KNOW FOR A FACT - LIES DON'T STAND THE TEST OF TIME. THAT RELIGION WILL SURELY IMPLODE IN FUTURE WHEN MEN ARE MORE SMARTER, BOLDER AND STRONGER WITH LITTLE OR NO FEAR - THEN, THAT WHICH CANNOT STAND THE FUTURE SCRUTINY WILL FALL.

ISLAM: QURAN - BORROWED FROM THE BIBLE, THE TALMUD AND THE SANSKRIT

ISLAMIC PRAYER: BORROWED FROM THE BUDDHISM PRAYERS AND PRAYER BEADS

ISLAMIC MOON FASTING: BORROWED FROM THE ANCIENT ARAB PAGAN RELIGION DESTROYED BY MOHAMMED

ISLAMIC KAABA: THE KAABA WAS FORMERLY THE TEMPLE OF AN ARAB GOD WHERE PILGRIMS COME FROM VARIOUS PART OF THE WORLD TO MAKE BLOOD SACRIFICE. AFTER MOHAMMED DEFEATED THE TOWN OF HEJAZI IN THE CITY MECCA, HE CONVERTED THE TEMPLE TO ISLAM HOLY SITE!


WE KNOW ABOUT ISLAM BUT WE JUST CHOSE TO LET ME WALLOW IN THEIR DELUS....





DON'T EXPECT TO GET HONEST ANSWER FROM THAT JIHADIST!

thanks. You have no idea where I was going with my question, and my question was not directed at you. I don't know you. But thank you very much because my question was meant to "diagnose" Informer155's aims and objectives for this thread. So you forfeited everything. I am under no obligation to answer anything because you just proved my suspicions.

I have been active in this section for 5yrs in a row and I know exactly how CHRISTIANs think and how they behave was the reason for my question.

Thank God you didn't disappoint with your rants. You really saved me from wasting my previous time with op. I thank you very much again, sir.

Now I can unfollow this thread. If op has anything serious to talk about he's free to call my attention. But for now, it looks like you are his mouthpiece which means you are too forward to reveal his agenda that I have long suspected.

Have a nice day.



Op (Informer155), this guy just ruined your chances of getting your questions answered. If you have genuine questions and sincerity behind this thread, onus is on you to prove this guy wrong and prove yourself.

Empiree:
[s]thanks. You have no idea where I was going with my question, and my question was not directed at you. I don't know you. But thank you very much because my question was meant to "diagnose" Informer155's aims and objectives for this thread. So you forfeited everything. I am under no obligation to answer anything because you just proved my suspicions.

I have been active in this section for 5yrs in a row and I know exactly how CHRISTIANs think and how they behave was the reason for my question.

Thank God you didn't disappoint with your rants. You really saved me from wasting my previous time with op. I thank you very much again, sir.

Now I can unfollow this thread. If op has anything serious to talk about he's free to call my attention. But for now, it looks like you are his mouthpiece which means you are too forward to reveal his agenda that I have long suspected.

Have a nice day[/s]

RUNNING AS USUAL WHEN CONFRONTED WITH FACTS

Hmmmm OK, since Empiree and co got angry and left. Is there any of my faithful Muslim brother here that can help me?? Your kind answer is very welcome.... I BEG YOU

بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ
"In the name of Allah, the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful." Al-Faatiha 1:1

Informer155:
Hmmmm OK, since Em.piree and co got angry and left. Is there any of my faithful Muslim brother here that can help me?? Your kind answer is very welcome.... I BEG YOU

بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ
"In the name of Allah, the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful." Al-Faatiha 1:1

no one got angry. Stop being childish and answer my question. I know what I'm talking about. You are asking questions that most likely you know you answers for. All I wanted to know was your true position because I read your comment where answered questions about Islam. So I'm wondering why did you opened this thread and seeking answers after answering questions here on Islam elsewhere?

Is this not you?

Informer155:
Q1

**The stories I read in Quran about Noah,John,Zacharias, Mary,Jesus etc is so unreal,funny and dramatic compared to the BIble.world believed that Bible existed more than 600 years before Quran.so which story should I believe in?

So, when you read stories in the Bible "about Noah, John, Zacharias, Mary, Jesus etc", are they so real, not funny and dramatic?

I think your problem is that of believing. You should perhaps aim for understanding instead.

Empiree:
no one got angry. Stop being childish and answer my question. I know what I'm talking about. You are asking questions that most likely you know you answers for. All I wanted to know was your true position because I read your comment where answered questions about Islam. So I'm wondering why did you opened this thread and seeking answers after answering questions here on Islam elsewhere?

Is this not you?

you and obiekue2 had problem you got angry and left isn't it sir?.And
if I was ever childish I apologized. also I don't know the answers to that,if you followed our discussion with Ruduct@islam-muslim section I didn't even know why Holy Qur'an use "WE" instead of "I" for Allah,until he clarified me.so you can see my level of ignorance.

and also,I haven't did such comment on any thread,maybe I was trying to say something check it well,and if I truly said that I apologized.

good let's continue.....

Informer155:


you and obiekue2 had problem you got angry and left isn't it sir?.And
if I was ever childish I apologized. also I don't know the answers to that,if you followed our discussion with Ruduct@islam-muslim section I didn't even know why Holy Qur'an use "WE" instead of "I" for Allah,until he clarified me.so you can see my level of ignorance.

and also,I haven't did such comment on any thread,maybe I was trying to say something check it well,and if I truly said that I apologized.

good let's continue.....

hummm

budaatum:

So, when you read stories in the Bible "about Noah, John, Zacharias, Mary, Jesus etc", they are so real, not funny and dramatic?

I think your problem is that of believing. You should perhaps aim for understanding instead.

is that your answer as a great budaatum?

Are you basing validity of stories of religious Books in order of age?. Is this your methodology?. If so it is wrong methodology

Informer155:
Q1


**The stories I read in Quran about Noah,John,Zacharias, Mary,Jesus etc is so unreal,funny and dramatic compared to the BIble.world believed that Bible existed more than 600 years before Quran.so which story should I believe in? Example:
Allah SWT said:

قَالَ رَبِّ اجْعَل لِّىٓ ءَايَةً  ۚ قَالَ ءَايَتُكَ أَلَّا تُكَلِّمَ النَّاسَ ثَلٰثَ لَيَالٍ سَوِيًّا
"[Zechariah] said, My Lord, make for me a sign. He said, Your sign is that you will not speak to the people for three nights, [being] sound."
Maryam 19: 10

"And, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, because thou believest not my words, which shall be fulfilled in their season." Luke1:20

which one is true between the two? and so many other stories

Informer155:
Q2

**if Jesus in the Quran is a prophet, why don't we do what he says? where can I see his words in the Quran?

[Jesus said], "And indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path." (19:36)

beside he appeared more than Mohammeds name in the Bible.
.Allah SWT said:

قَالَ إِنِّى عَبْدُ اللَّهِ ءَاتٰىنِىَ الْكِتٰبَ وَجَعَلَنِى نَبِيًّا
"[Jesus] said, Indeed, I am the servant of Allah. He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet."
Maryam 19:30.

whats your point?

where are the scriptures given to him(Jesus)?or is it also the Quran? help

Scripture given to Jesus was Injeel. Injeel is not Bible. Bible is collection of stories written by different men, usually unknown people

There is only one Holy Qur'an sir, and there are millions versions of Bible........agreed


Now Mr Empires,my questions are from the one and only Holy Qur'an sent from Allah in Mecca........ Can you just answer me great one?

My methodology of thinking about religion can be wrong from yours that's why AM ASKING YOU TO EXPLAIN IN YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING AND TRUE METHODOLOGY SIR........

Let's continue...

Informer155:
There is only one Holy Qur'an sir, and there are millions versions of Bible........agreed


Now Mr Empires,my questions are from the one and only Holy Qur'an sent from Allah in Mecca........ Can you just answer me great one?

..

what's your question, sir?

Empiree:
[Jesus said], "And indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path." (19:36)



whats your point?



Scripture given to Jesus was Injeel. Injeel is not Bible. Bible is collection of stories written by different men, usually unknown people

Interesting!.. Allah gave Jesus injeel?OK.when was Jesus given that injeel Empiree?and for what? Where is even the injeel now?....remember that Jesus had lived for 33 years with people on earth before he died! And he was able to talk as early as an infant!..maryam 19:29-32

فَأَشَارَتْ إِلَيْهِ  ۖ قَالُوا كَيْفَ نُكَلِّمُ مَنْ كَانَ فِى الْمَهْدِ صَبِيًّا
"So she pointed to him. They said, How can we speak to one who is in the cradle a child?"

قَالَ إِنِّى عَبْدُ اللَّهِ ءَاتٰىنِىَ الْكِتٰبَ وَجَعَلَنِى نَبِيًّا
"[Jesus] said, Indeed, I am the servant of Allah. He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet."

وَجَعَلَنِى مُبَارَكًا أَيْنَ مَا كُنْتُ وَأَوْصٰنِى بِالصَّلٰوةِ وَالزَّكٰوةِ مَا دُمْتُ حَيًّا
"And He has made me blessed wherever I am and has enjoined upon me prayer and zakah as long as I remain alive"

وَبَرًّۢا بِوٰلِدَتِى وَلَمْ يَجْعَلْنِى جَبَّارًا شَقِيًّا
"And [made me] dutiful to my mother, and He has not made me a wretched tyrant.".............so tell me more about injeel sir empires!

Informer155:

is that your answer as a great budaatum?

Did some "great budaatum" write that answer?

Empiree:
what's your question, sir?

The questions are just two....

Q1


**The stories I read in Quran about Noah,John,Zacharias, Mary,Jesus etc is so unreal,funny and dramatic compared to the BIble.world believed that Bible existed more than 600 years before Quran.so which story should I believe in? Example:
Allah SWT said:

قَالَ رَبِّ اجْعَل لِّىٓ ءَايَةً  ۚ قَالَ ءَايَتُكَ أَلَّا تُكَلِّمَ النَّاسَ ثَلٰثَ لَيَالٍ سَوِيًّا
"[Zechariah] said, My Lord, make for me a sign. He said, Your sign is that you will not speak to the people for three nights, [being] sound."
Maryam 19: 10

"And, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, because thou believest not my words, which shall be fulfilled in their season." Luke1:20

which one is true between the two? and so many other stories


Q2

**if Jesus in the Quran is a prophet, why don't we do what he says? where can I see his words in the Quran? beside he appeared more than Mohammeds name in the Bible.
.Allah SWT said:

قَالَ إِنِّى عَبْدُ اللَّهِ ءَاتٰىنِىَ الْكِتٰبَ وَجَعَلَنِى نَبِيًّا
"[Jesus] said, Indeed, I am the servant of Allah. He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet."
Maryam 19:30.

where are the scriptures given to him(Jesus)?or is it also the Quran? help.....that's all

Informer155:


Interesting!.. Allah gave Jesus injeel?OK.when was Jesus given that injeel Empiree?and for what? Where is even the injeel now?....remember that Jesus had lived for 33 years with people on earth before he died! And he was able to talk as early as an infant!..maryam 19:29-32

فَأَشَارَتْ إِلَيْهِ  ۖ قَالُوا كَيْفَ نُكَلِّمُ مَنْ كَانَ فِى الْمَهْدِ صَبِيًّا
"So she pointed to him. They said, How can we speak to one who is in the cradle a child?"

قَالَ إِنِّى عَبْدُ اللَّهِ ءَاتٰىنِىَ الْكِتٰبَ وَجَعَلَنِى نَبِيًّا
"[Jesus] said, Indeed, I am the servant of Allah. He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet."

وَجَعَلَنِى مُبَارَكًا أَيْنَ مَا كُنْتُ وَأَوْصٰنِى بِالصَّلٰوةِ وَالزَّكٰوةِ مَا دُمْتُ حَيًّا
"And He has made me blessed wherever I am and has enjoined upon me prayer and zakah as long as I remain alive"

وَبَرًّۢا بِوٰلِدَتِى وَلَمْ يَجْعَلْنِى جَبَّارًا شَقِيًّا
"And [made me] dutiful to my mother, and He has not made me a wretched tyrant.".............so tell me more about injeel sir empires!

Whats your question?. Injeel of Jesus was simply his message sent to him by God to preach to the people. That's his Book called Injeel. No evidence of compiled injeel in book form. Once Jesus preached a message, that's gone. Some are written down by his disciples. But all these bibles you see today claiming Mathew, Mark, Luke and John. These 4 writers are not disciples. This is why their account of story of Jesus differ amongst themselves (contradictions).

Quran the other hand captured and preserved Jesus message.