Ok

starbuck:
We are not done human doctors and you are here thinking of vets

Yet these same Nigerian docs continue to pass international exams in droves and perform successfully in other climes.
Shouldn't this tell you the problem is in the Government and not the individual.
Continue blaming the doctors, that'll help them improve I guess

mafiano1986:
My problem with Nigerian vets is that, they don't have the resources to conduct tests in dogs. When you notice some symptoms on your dog on you take it to the vet, they will not draw it's blood and conduct a test to know what is really the problem, they will just look at it and say this is what is wrong, that is what is wrong, in the end of the day, after spending all that money administering the wrong medication, the dog will just end up dying so all that money spent becomes for nothing.

My vet in abuja does test first. I remember when my neighbor bought a puppy with ticks to our compound and it crept into my dog and my dog fell sick, I took her to the vet and he said he will do blood test first, I thought he was joking, and few minutes later he said the dog has tick fever. And he gave her necessary vaccine and my dog was ok after 4 days

That's a bit unfair
I know a lot of good vets here who are very professional and run adequate tests when needed
Never generalise

mediclife1987:


Yet these same Nigerian docs continue to pass international exams in droves and perform successfully in other climes.
Shouldn't this tell you the problem is in the Government and not the individual.
Continue blaming the doctors, that'll help them improve I guess

Nigerian doctors kill more people than they actually treat. Once a patient's problem is more than typhoid and malaria, then there is no hope for the patient.

The only reason they start behaving themselves when they get outside this country is that they know that any slight misdemeanor would lead to the withdrawal of their license and possible jail term.

But here in Nigeria, the same government you are trying to blame doesn't hold them accountable, so they behave anyhow.

ednut1 po ;Dst=81190626:
Our local dog as a kid never got sick . If he sick na calabar pot he dey go

You are totally insane.

post=81190489:
In saner climes, Vets treat animals like human beings admitted in a hospital, but in our darling country.....hmmm!

When the main medical Doctors don't even have the resources and passion to save lives.
The ones in the government hospitals will rather refer you to their private clinics, just for them to milk you dry!

Slow and steady we will get to a New and better Nigeria.
The foundation has been destroyed!

So you know that your master has destroyed everything ba. Thought Buhari has transformed Nigeria and any complainant is ipob

mafiano1986:
My problem with Nigerian vets is that, they don't have the resources to conduct tests in dogs. When you notice some symptoms on your dog on you take it to the vet, they will not draw it's blood and conduct a test to know what is really the problem, they will just look at it and say this is what is wrong, that is what is wrong, in the end of the day, after spending all that money administering the wrong medication, the dog will just end up dying so all that money spent becomes for nothing.

That is wrong. If you want contact of real vet say so. All the test you want , when an average Nigerian sees the bill they go run. How many Nigerians can send their dogs for check up every 2 _3 months and pay 70k.

Na mouth Nigerians get. It's unfortunate about your dog . Every one has lost a dog at a point.
It is you that should be more vigilant about your dog .

hmmm

Grupo:


Nigerian doctors kill more people than they actually treat. Once a patient's problem is more than typhoid and malaria, then there is no hope for the patient.

The only reason they start behaving themselves when they get outside this country is that they know that any slight misdemeanor would lead to the withdrawal of their license and possible jail term.

But here in Nigeria, the same government you are trying to blame doesn't hold them accountable, so they behave anyhow.

You initially insinuated once the matter pass Malaria and Typhoid, they get to their wits end, then recanted saying they behave themselves once they get abroad.

This doesn't seem to make any sense to me. Doctors that have to make do with Cartons & Lanterns to warm premature babies due to your Government not providing incubators are the same incompetent doctors. Nigerian docs that use torch lights in the theatre and use Razor blade as scalpel blades cos there's nothing else to improvise with. The same Aso clinic that had no single paracetamol in there and yet you want the Doctor to just lay his hands on the patient and heal him?

As I said, continue to hold briefs for your Government with contradictory statements just in a bid to rubbish your doctors. One thing you should however remember is doctors and nurses stand an easier chance to leave the country to saner climes, where the citizens hold there Government responsible for good governance, and not hold briefs for them.

The time will come the Doctors that kill you so much won't be there for you to get killed anymore.

How will someone who can't treat more than Malaria and Typhoid in Nigeria, suddenly go abroad and not just treat other illnesses but start making new discoveries? How will he even have the mental capacity to achieve that in the first place

It's this same frustrating attitude that pushes our best brains and talents outta the country and excel. We will NEVER hold our Government responsible due to fear, we only prey on the weak and hope they become strong thereafter.

There was indeed a nation.

this guy don tire for naija matter but na facts u mentioned. even as a pharmacist i dey see my colleagues dey do big men around too

Unilorin has a wonderful veterinary clinic, am quite sure if your dogs or any animal needs quality attention, you will get one over there.

mafiano1986:
My problem with Nigerian vets is that, they don't have the resources to conduct tests in dogs. When you notice some symptoms on your dog on you take it to the vet, they will not draw it's blood and conduct a test to know what is really the problem, they will just look at it and say this is what is wrong, that is what is wrong, in the end of the day, after spending all that money administering the wrong medication, the dog will just end up dying so all that money spent becomes for nothing.

It's not entirely true mate. Most times animal owners keep the pet and only after the animals condition deteriorates critically, is it then brought before a Vet hoping some Magical cure occurs. Depending on the signs which are objective observations and history taking from the owner of the animal, the vet in Nigeria painstakingly moves ahead to give a tentative diagnosis, tentative because we lack the tools, and laboratory test to give a definitive diagnosis, that doesn't mean the tentative diagnosis is simply a wild guess, Odd eating habits, excessive thirst, rough or dry coat, Lethargy, Vomiting,Unusual stool (smelly or diarrheic,) Sudden weight loss, Cloudy or red eyes etc are observations the vet makes towards achieving a diagnosis and treatment is followed symptomatically.
The issue I tell you is :
1. The owner who doesn't think he should bring his animal for routine checks and regimens such as deworming and vaccinations, which could prevent the animal from falling sick in the first place. And only visits the vet most times when the prognosis is poor or guarded.

2. Fake or quack vets, I need not elaborate the implications.

3. Nature. Despite the best efforts of a skilled doctor, the patient succumbs to the hand of death, a lot of idiosyncrasies are involved here, from the breed, to the age, to the care (nourishment), and to nature, patients both human and animal do die.
Granted the Nigerian vet is fraught with Myriads of challenges, we still have skilled vets in Nigeria with lots of success stories. Yours truly is one of such, and have seen both systems (Europe and Nigeria) in operation.

Drabeey:
One of them killed my friend i bought the dog some weeks old. He was a good friend, just some few hours he came in he was already all over me. I was moved to tell him all my hidden thoughts, well he wouldn't say it to anyone. I even told him to pray for me sometimes

But the quack killed him

so touching... I can't imagine how bad u still feel abt the modafoka that kill your dog

OP, please try not to make generalized statements like that. What you have said is not true about ALL vets. There are vet clinics/ doctors in Nigeria who actually carry out all the necessary tests to properly diagnose your pet's condition. The question is whether Nigerians can afford such competent practices! Just as with other professions in Nigeria, there are quacks who don't know their job and would swindle you. If you truly value your pet, you can insist on the right way of doing things.

Don’t generalize. They work with what they have and a lot of the qualified ones surely do brilliant jobs both on pets and food animals. The problem is that most pet owners and farmers that are clients of the profession go to quacks they call themselves Doctor because they don’t want to pay or they even don’t know who a real vet is. Above all, if you want good service, pay for it and make them accountable for it.

Rightly said! There is also the role that the owner has to play in giving the appropriate diet in quality and quantity; routine checks (etc) and immediately notifying your vet of any abnormalities observed, rather than waiting until the condition has deteriorated.

HopeRisingmatte:


It's not entirely true mate. Most times animal owners keep the pet and only after the animals condition deteriorates critically, is it then brought before a Vet hoping some Magical cure occurs. Depending on the signs which are objective observations and history taking from the owner of the animal, the vet in Nigeria painstakingly moves ahead to give a tentative diagnosis, tentative because we lack the tools, and laboratory test to give a definitive diagnosis, that doesn't mean the tentative diagnosis is simply a wild guess, Odd eating habits, excessive thirst, rough or dry coat, Lethargy, Vomiting,Unusual stool (smelly or diarrheic,) Sudden weight loss, Cloudy or red eyes etc are observations the vet makes towards achieving a diagnosis and treatment is followed symptomatically.
The issue I tell you is :
1. The owner who doesn't think he should bring his animal for routine checks and regimens such as deworming and vaccinations, which could prevent the animal from falling sick in the first place. And only visits the vet most times when the prognosis is poor or guarded.

2. Fake or quack vets, I need not elaborate the implications.

3. Nature. Despite the best efforts of a skilled doctor, the patient succumbs to the hand of death, a lot of idiosyncrasies are involved here, from the breed, to the age, to the care (nourishment), and to nature, patients both human and animal do die.
Granted the Nigerian vet is fraught with Myriads of challenges, we still have skilled vets in Nigeria with lots of success stories. Yours truly is one of such, and have seen both systems (Europe and Nigeria) in operation.

Do you want dog to bite Nigerian vet doctors? Who sorted to graduate and working without steady electricity and modern medical equipment.

mafiano1986:
My problem with Nigerian vets is that, they don't have the resources to conduct tests in dogs. When you notice some symptoms on your dog on you take it to the vet, they will not draw it's blood and conduct a test to know what is really the problem, they will just look at it and say this is what is wrong, that is what is wrong, in the end of the day, after spending all that money administering the wrong medication, the dog will just end up dying so all that money spent becomes for nothing.

Accountantgener:
A nairalander who claims to sell data,he is a scammer I just sent the sum of 5,000naira to him today and he gave me a non existing code to use in checking my data balance which is *131*65*2*1*2# and that code does not actually exist,his real names are AGU KENECHUKWU,ACCESS BANK, A/C NOS IS 0761393797 and his phone number is 09065287121 and he no longer picks my call since after I became his victim,so I had to join nairaland today so as to pass the message to the whole world to know .Pls share this message across to everyone until the whole world gets it to help a neighbour avoid been scammed online.

Report to the bank that the owner of the account is using it to defraud unsuspecting Nigerians. You can also report to the police (very corrupt set of individuals that will want to still collect money from you) to get him arrested

post=81190489:
In saner climes, Vets treat animals like human beings admitted in a hospital, but in our darling country.....hmmm!

When the main medical Doctors don't even have the resources and passion to save lives.
The ones in the government hospitals will rather refer you to their private clinics, just for them to milk you dry!

Slow and steady we will get to a New and better Nigeria.
The foundation has been destroyed!

We can't get to a better country with your support for Buhari, the mediocre president of all time . :-

Hypocrisy will continue to destroy Nigeria

mafiano1986:
My problem with Nigerian vets is that, they don't have the resources to conduct tests in dogs. When you notice some symptoms on your dog on you take it to the vet, they will not draw it's blood and conduct a test to know what is really the problem, they will just look at it and say this is what is wrong, that is what is wrong, in the end of the day, after spending all that money administering the wrong medication, the dog will just end up dying so all that money spent becomes for nothing.

We no even get hospital for the vet himself to take arrange body when him sick na animal own go come kajad? Abeg check your location na. Na Naija you dey oo. Abi you forget?
Anyways sha, e go beta. No worry. Na small small.

By the time they conduct all those
expensive tests, how many Nigerians will
have the capacity to pay?

Even humans cannot afford to
pay for simple tests for themselves, talk
less of dog.

This ain't true bro. When you go to the hospital, is it on every visit they run blood test on you? There are some diseases that once they show a particular symptoms or signs, you know what is wrong with the animal already and that is the more reason why you should appreciate vets because their patients can't talk, and so can't tell a Vet what exactly is wrong with them. A human could complain to a Doctor that he's having stomach upset but a Veterinarian has to use all his 6 senses along with the 7th one to detect what could be wrong with the anmial.

Also Veterinarians do blood test when it's needed, Especially if the animal isn't showing a specific sign or symptoms. The question is are you willing to pay for those tests? Thesame people that complain about Vets not doing diagnostic procedures are thesame people that would refuse to pay once the bill is out.

There are Veterinary hospitals in Nigeria that have Laboratory or diagnostic facilities than even Human hospital. You have alot of them In Lagos.

If you want those kind of services, then you go to where you can get it. There's Petcare in Lagos, there's Truthmiles and even the State veterinary hospitals have diagnostic labs.

It's either you're contacting a Quack to treat your animal or your claims are wrong.

My brothers have said it all, what is killing the profession is quackery! quackery!quackery!. The veterinary profession is one of the most bastardised in terms of quackery in that its very difficult to identify the genuine ones. You would see some semi illiterates calling themselves vets simply because they have an idea of animal diseases, diploma holders in animal health/science/production claiming to be a vets and even some Bsc holders in these above professions claiming to be a vet and such people would be so confident and brazen because in the person's mind, he would be like "worse worse is it not an ordinary animal" (unlike MBBS where quacks try to be discrete). This quackery has given the veterinary profession so much bad name that people don't want their loved ones near the profession, because when people who claim to be vet doctors can't speak good English and would collect 300 naira for procedures in your house then why waste 6yrs. The truth is this; I can say boldly that a high percentage of vets in Nigeria are good and can compete favorably with their counterparts abroad simply because the training they get in Nigeria is rigorously rigorous and the screening process is really tough. In a class of 280 in 100 level, by 600 level the population would have reduced to around 80, about 200 would be forced to withdraw to other science courses hence majority of the vets you see are usually thoroughbred. The only way to avoid this kind of problems in future is to identify the quacks so that you would know whom you are dealing with, and these are the following ways to identify them;
1) Its your right to ask questions about whatever condition your animal is suffering from and get a very detailed answer, if your "vet" cannot answer you or is dodgy about the question. Such individual is likely a quack
2) Stylishly ask which school he/she graduated from. We have only 13 vet schools in Nigeria, in which most people don't know, take note of the schools and if his school ain't in any, he is definitely a quack. "Imagine a "vet" claiming he graduated from Unilag"
3) Check the persons carriage, spoken English and dressing, although subjective, it can be a give away
4) Check his price range and his desperation for money, it could also be a give away. My dear friends no Vet who spend 6yrs in Vet school would collect 300 naira from you for any procedure in your house !!
5) Lastly, if he is quick to give judgement on your case without careful diagnosis, such individual is likely a quack
In conclusion, I believe if the above is followed you would be saved from quacks and you would appreciate the profession better.

mafiano1986:
My problem with Nigerian vets is that, they don't have the resources to conduct tests in dogs. When you notice some symptoms on your dog on you take it to the vet, they will not draw it's blood and conduct a test to know what is really the problem, they will just look at it and say this is what is wrong, that is what is wrong, in the end of the day, after spending all that money administering the wrong medication, the dog will just end up dying so all that money spent becomes for nothing.

Even the normal doctor's sef don't call for test most times. Unless you demand for it.

mafiano1986:
My problem with Nigerian vets is that, they don't have the resources to conduct tests in dogs. When you notice some symptoms on your dog on you take it to the vet, they will not draw it's blood and conduct a test to know what is really the problem, they will just look at it and say this is what is wrong, that is what is wrong, in the end of the day, after spending all that money administering the wrong medication, the dog will just end up dying so all that money spent becomes for nothing.

You might not be far from the truth but honestly, sometimes, the society does not give them alot of options

1. How many labs are available for a vet to conduct thorough test?

2. Do you know how much it would cost for a vet to own an in-house laboratory in terms of buying some equipment?

3. Can U honestly pay 5-10k for initial routine blood test before paying for vaccination or deworming or treatment?

Trust me, even to pay for treatment, some people find it hard to pay, some go run with the balance of the money once the animal is recovering, while some cannot even afford "chukuli" (small) money for vaccination.

Trust me, the standard of living, money availability and financial standings of the society makes it impossible for what we watch on TV. Some Vets in high brow cities in Nigeria e.g Lagos, P/H, Warri, Abuja still do the needful

GuyMan50:


Are you sure it doesn't take much skill? I think you are mistaken but I won't begin to speak on that.
When I say oilfield, I'm not talking NNPC. Those ones are a financial sinkhole and money launderers. I'm talking private sector. And trust me, we have competent professionals in Local Oil (Servicing) Companies.

...well I wont claim to be an expert on oil issues so if you say so.

To be fair, I am really impressed with some of the discussion and responses to this particular topic.
I am a vet and practised briefly before I went into research and I must tell you, the average veterinarian in Nigeria is in a rather impossible place to provide the excellent care they would have love to provide.
It is so easy to trash the quality of care (in terms of the tests, facilities and equipment) vets in Nigeria have access to and use compared to what you see on cable TV and the other NatGeo shows. The issue is, if you know the average cost of vet care and visit in some of those countries we are so keen to compare ours to, most dog owners would not be able to afford it. Pet owners need to own their fault in a whole lot of issues also. Most cases people bring to vet are often those they have tried all sort of self medications and could not get any respite...and yes, a vet is trained but surely a stitch in time saves nine and a minor case when not managed early could lead to multisystem failure which will be too late to resolve. More so, many would rather patronise "quacks" who parade themselves as vets just because they feel they are cheaper. These lots often spoil the name of the "noble profession" and give the many amazing Doctors working with the few resources they have to give your pet the best care a very bad name.
So yes, things might not be ideal but before you point an accusing finger...ask yourself some question as a pet owner, "Am I giving my pet the best care I would want to be given?"

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Accountantgener:
A nairalander who claims to sell data,he is a scammer I just sent the sum of 5,000naira to him today and he gave me a non existing code to use in checking my data balance which is *131*65*2*1*2# and that code does not actually exist,his real names are AGU KENECHUKWU,ACCESS BANK, A/C NOS IS 0761393797 and his phone number is 09065287121 and he no longer picks my call since after I became his victim,so I had to join nairaland today so as to pass the message to the whole world to know .Pls share this message across to everyone until the whole world gets it to help a neighbour avoid been scammed online.

me too. I sent 2k to one oluwabusi adeoye of access bank. he promised 7g for 2k but only sent fake 3g that doesn't broswe at all.he refused to pick my call too.