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Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by OkCornel(m): 2:38pm On Aug 18, 2019
Another thing, I don't believe wearing weave-ons, nails, eye-lashes and all that will send one to hell.

If you like, cover yourself up and down, but still live a life of hypocrisy, na you dey do yourself...
Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by salt1: 2:55pm On Aug 18, 2019
joseph1832:
if you believe the Bible then you'll know Heaven is going to be one very dry place.


I still want to go there
Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by joseph1832(m): 2:57pm On Aug 18, 2019
Tombrown3:

That's why God is smarter than you. You want it to be hard because you feel that's how it suppose to be. Salvation is not just about you humans, it's a way the Almighty uses to conquer devil!

I looked at your good deeds, it wasn't enough so I sent my only begotten son to sacrifice just so you can have that everlasting life which your good deed as a human couldn't atone for, all I ask is for you to believe in him and be saved!

You can't have Jesus and still believe you will go to hell! Unless you never genuinely believed.

No matter how much you claim to be a repentant and never to sin, my brother you go still sin in one way or the other! That's why you good and holy life which you claim to live ain't enough to God.

God's plan is the best I've ever seen through Christ Jesus! He outsmarted the devil whom is still struggling telling people Jesus is not all you need, my brother as a Christian and believers we aught to live a good and responsible life so our environment won't be in chaos and in anarchy.

Add anything to the finish work of Jesus, and God will show you this message on your way to hell!

Jesus! I repeat, Jesus is the only way to heaven! Not your good deeds, no, never!
so those Christians who still believe and commit unspeakable evil will go to Heaven, just because they believe in Jesus Christ. I see.
Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by OkCornel(m): 3:10pm On Aug 18, 2019
salt1:



I still want to go there

People have this false notion that Heaven is a place where everyone will just chill and be singing Hallelujah for eternity.

Heaven is a very busy place where people will fully express their God given abilities and talents for eternity.

Doing what God wired you to do and you can never be tired of. Doing what brings fulfillment to you, and positively contributes to the life of others.

Everyone will have their clarity of purpose there, and see how their actions and thoughts fits into the bigger picture i.e. the will of the Almighty One

No more night nor day (time ceases to exist in eternity). Remaining youthful and strong forever.


Unfortunately, the emphasis these days is more about the gory stories of darkness, torments and Lake of Fire... rather than the beauty and glory of the Eternal Heavens...

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Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by Tombrown3(m): 3:27pm On Aug 18, 2019
joseph1832:
so those Christians who still believe and commit unspeakable evil will go to Heaven, just because they believe in Jesus Christ. I see.
They never genuinely believed bro. But if they actually did believe, then God punishment will befall on them more!

If you continue fornication after being saved, my brother you are interning a trap, and God will even make sure you fall into it for disobedience! HIV, or other deceased gotten from it. You might even lose your finances in such process through set ups, in short! There will always be a price to pay for disobedience to God, but going to hell? That's not your portion after believing the Christ.


Secondly, when you are saved, the Holy spirit comes into you, you see most sinful act you've committed shameful and feel remorseful for them. Holy spirit helps you live a good life through precious Blood of Jesus that you have been watched with,it won't be your own strength so you can boast of.
You are gonna struggle from sinful habit, you are gonna conquer if you really want to. Don't go praying to God you don't wanna fornicate again when you live in an environment girls and nudes are breakfast, half of the web you visit are full of porn advert. Rather, move away from whatever that cause you to sin if you really want to stop that particular sin. That act alone is counted as faith on to God, and He will definitely bless and deliver you.

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Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by colp2015: 4:56pm On Aug 18, 2019
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Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by colp2015: 4:57pm On Aug 18, 2019
Aquilazng:

Good Sunday all.
With reference to this msg. What will now happen to backsliders?
Nothing, according to the gospel by the author of this thread.

Backsliders will stroll to heaven accompanied by drum rolls and parade by Angels.

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Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by Spiritmask: 5:03pm On Aug 18, 2019
before u can calm a place in heaven, u must repent from ur sins and believe in Jesus Christ. be willing to keep that trust in Christ. u can't say that before u believe in Jesus Christ and turn ur back and start worshipping satan, that u will make heaven

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Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by matiuni: 5:07pm On Aug 18, 2019
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jiggaz:
Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell: What You Should Know About Dreams & Visions of Heaven & Hell

A Bible Study by Prince Gabriel Okocha



What does the Bible has to say about seeing believers in Hell or missing the rapture in dreams and visions? Are such dreams and visions messages or warnings from God to help us straighten our paths in order to “make” heaven?
Over and over again, we have seen and heard people claim to have received a special vision from God in which they saw a fellow believer in Christ, sometimes a very faithful one, end up in Hell for any reason at all.


For instance in 2012, a lady came out to say she saw Archbishop Benson Idahosa in hell and it was materialism that “took” him there. The same lady claimed in her visions she saw other believers either in or on their way to hell because they wore make-ups, weavons, trousers (for ladies), rings and other jewelries (including wedding rings), kept long hairs and long nails.

Every now and then, people (especially those who claim to have died and came back to life) always come up with visions of a Hellfire crowded with believers or an almost empty heaven (with very few Christians).
What should be a Christian’s disposition in the midst of all these? How should a Christian treat such visions of believers in hell?
First, you need to understand what the Bible has to say about believers being condemned to hell.

Joh 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
1Jn 3:14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.


John 5:24 and 1 John 3:14 is very very clear on the fact that the believer in Jesus has passed from death to life. The word translated as “death” in those verses is the greek word “thanatou”
“Thanatou” is not only used to imply physical death, it is also used to imply “eternal separation from God and utter destruction” which we call “second death or “hell.”
Now read those verses again and notice how John puts the probability of a believer experiencing such to be in the past when he has not yet believed or received salvation. He said the believer SHALL NOT come into condemnation anymore. Why? Because the issue of his eternal destination has been settled once and for all. He HAS PASSED from death(hell) to Life.


In other words, the one who has believed in Jesus’ sacrifice for himself has no chance of ending up in Hell. He has long passed that level or stage. He is in a place now where Hell can never ever have a hold on him.

Ephesians 2:5-6 said he is seated in the Heavenly places in Christ Jesus today. Not tomorrow or after his physical death.
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are savedwink
Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus
He is a citizen of heaven, not a candidate aspiring to go there. He came from there, it’s his place of origin. A place where he has to go back as soon as he exits this earth.
Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God


He (the believer) is joined to Christ, wherever Christ is is where he is. Where the believer goes is where Christ goes.

1Co 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
Not only is the believer joined to Christ, he is also joined in the Spirit to other believers. Where one goes is where others will go.
Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.


So to say that you saw a believer (a man who has received Salvation) in hell, is like saying you saw ALL believers in hell. We are so knitted together that our eternal destinies are intertwined, where one goes is where all goes.


If this is true, why then do people see such visions of believers going to hell for any reason?
The answer is simple. It is due to the kind of teaching they have been exposed to.

The human mind is so powerful that it can project whatever teaching you constantly feed it to your dreams and visions. This is why the scriptures encourages us to constantly renew our minds to the truths of God’s word, so we don’t end up missing out on the dividends of salvation.

Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
As you constantly renew your mind to the laid out truths of God’s eternal salvation in the scriptures, you will start having only real godly dreams and visions of heaven or hell.

Eternal death is not the destiny of the man in Christ. He has been saved from it forever. And that is not because he will always get his acts right, it is simply because Jesus has paid the ultimate price for him not to go there anymore. Don’t let any dream, vision or messages of believers going to hell fool you. Heaven is your home as a Christian and you are going there.
I hope this blesses you!

Glory to God, glory to our saviour and king!
Receive true scriptural visions today, in the name of Jesus!


https://www.feedmejesus.com/2019/06/seeing-visions-of-believers-in-hell.html?m=1


Matthew 7:21"Not every one that said unto me Lord,Lord shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;but he that does the will of my father which is in heaven"This were directly from the mouth of our Lord Jesus Christ

1 Corinthians 9:27"But l keep under my body,and bring it into subjection:lest that by any means, when l have preached to others,l myself should be a castaway"Also directly from apostle Paul the fairy preacher of Grace

Please stop scamming those who do not have time to read their Bible.lf you believe in Jesus and you do not obey his instructions,you are like those who do not believe.There is Grace for salvation Titus 2:11, Grace for holiness 1Peter 1:2, Roman 8:4-8 and Grace for Service Ephesians 4:7-8,11,1 Cor 15:10, Grace is not a license to continue to live in sin.Yes Christians can sin and still obtain forgiveness 1 John1:9 if we confess and forsake the sin Proverb 28:13 but not a premeditated or habitual and secret sin.Please stop giving people the comfort that Jesus himself did not give

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Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by OkCornel(m): 5:08pm On Aug 18, 2019
colp2015:
Nothing, according to the gospel by the author of this thread.

Backsliders will stroll to heaven accompanied by drum rolls and parade by Angels.

Lol...the sarcasm cheesy
Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by Spiritmask: 5:15pm On Aug 18, 2019
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Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by Tombrown3(m): 5:36pm On Aug 18, 2019
Spiritmask:
I don't have sense more than God. though that is my own understand, but u can enlight me well. and by the help of God through Jesus Christ, we both will make heaven. just that I don't want to go to hell, and also win souls for God. but if I am wrong, correct me and let God forgive me in Jesus name I ask. I have no intention of deceiving people. u can read my modified post

You have nothing to worry as long as you have faith in Jesus alone.

Read the bible for yourself and with the guardians of the Holy ghost.

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Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by obentenyson(m): 7:08pm On Aug 18, 2019
the Gospel of OSAS.... taking the grace of God for granted. only those who endure till the end will make it....
Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by leonard509(m): 8:38pm On Aug 18, 2019
If they always see multitudes going to hell, then the church is a scam/religion is a scam.. What is the church's task? Is it not to save souls? They hold on to holy books and tithes but can't save people's souls...


If they can't save people's bodies on earth, then they should not be trusted to save souls...

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Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by Cresida: 10:22pm On Aug 18, 2019
I don't have much to say, but I will just drop this.
The bible says "As from the days of john the baptist, the kingdom of God (heaven) suffereth VOILENCE and the VIOLETH taketh it by FORCE

If what this "agent of devil" said is what you accept into your subconscious mind then I'm sorry for you. Before you start condemning or arguing or abusing, make sure you read this to the end.
Revelation 21:8

Mattew25:46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

IThess1:9 They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might. "Who would be punished? The lovers of the world and the things of the world"
Let's continue
Acts2:50 and throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
"So if when we accept christ ad our personal lord and saviour, we are free from hell. "Then who are the ones that the Bible is referring to in this verse? Certainly not only the unbelievers, because if it's only the unbelievers, bible would have stated it."
Mark 9:43 If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.
"The bible is obviously referring to the saved and so called Christians, because you can't stumble again when you've already fallen down (when you are an unbeliever, you can only stumble when you are already standing (in Christ)
And lastly
1peter4:18
And if the RIGHTEOUS SCARCELY be be SAVED, (from the second death) where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
"Its like you are not getting it, bible specifically said it that only a few believer shall be saved from this second death. And the reason why only a few believers shall be aved us because of teachings like this and because, the believers saw the truth but they choose to ignore. Just like what you're about doing.

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Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by dreality: 12:09am On Aug 19, 2019
God is just using these visions and near-death experiences of hell to warn christians of their ultimate fate in the hereafter if they do not stop their delusions and seek the true God and true religion of Prophet Jesus and all other prophets. The scripture being taught by the Europeans is an adulterated version of the true message of Jesus. It was put together 325years after the death of Jesus by Emperor Constatine . These visions and NDEs are too numerous to be false. Discontenance at the risk of your own eternal damnation
Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by Engineet: 1:48am On Aug 19, 2019
God bless you richly bro.
Your message just converted a soul.
All glory to Jesus!

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Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by jiggaz(m): 7:03am On Aug 19, 2019
Engineet:
God bless you richly bro.
Your message just converted a soul.
All glory to Jesus!
Amen my brother. Thank you Lord Jesus....
Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by Holypriesthood: 1:51pm On Aug 19, 2019
Thank you sir for you message but you are wrong somewhere. If a Christian who has being saved like you quoted in the scriptures, starts disobeying the word of God and lives a life contrary to Christianity, does it mean the person will still go to heaven? A thousand times NO! the visions and dreams seen by those people who went to heaven and hell also stated the reason why they ended up there. Do not be deceived! The Bible said you should work out your salvation with fear and trembling! If you think you can give your life to Christ and continue to misbehave as a Christian, you are on your way to hell because you have left the path to heaven!
Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by jiggaz(m): 9:11pm On Jan 25, 2020
Lord Jesus... You're awesome...
Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by jiggaz(m): 4:02pm On May 03, 2020
Cc Eulalia
Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by Nobody: 6:01pm On May 03, 2020
jiggaz:
Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell: What You Should Know About Dreams & Visions of Heaven & Hell

A Bible Study by Prince Gabriel Okocha



What does the Bible has to say about seeing believers in Hell or missing the rapture in dreams and visions? Are such dreams and visions messages or warnings from God to help us straighten our paths in order to “make” heaven?
Over and over again, we have seen and heard people claim to have received a special vision from God in which they saw a fellow believer in Christ, sometimes a very faithful one, end up in Hell for any reason at all.


For instance in 2012, a lady came out to say she saw Archbishop Benson Idahosa in hell and it was materialism that “took” him there. The same lady claimed in her visions she saw other believers either in or on their way to hell because they wore make-ups, weavons, trousers (for ladies), rings and other jewelries (including wedding rings), kept long hairs and long nails.

Every now and then, people (especially those who claim to have died and came back to life) always come up with visions of a Hellfire crowded with believers or an almost empty heaven (with very few Christians).
What should be a Christian’s disposition in the midst of all these? How should a Christian treat such visions of believers in hell?
First, you need to understand what the Bible has to say about believers being condemned to hell.

Joh 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
1Jn 3:14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.


John 5:24 and 1 John 3:14 is very very clear on the fact that the believer in Jesus has passed from death to life. The word translated as “death” in those verses is the greek word “thanatou”
“Thanatou” is not only used to imply physical death, it is also used to imply “eternal separation from God and utter destruction” which we call “second death or “hell.”
Now read those verses again and notice how John puts the probability of a believer experiencing such to be in the past when he has not yet believed or received salvation. He said the believer SHALL NOT come into condemnation anymore. Why? Because the issue of his eternal destination has been settled once and for all. He HAS PASSED from death(hell) to Life.


In other words, the one who has believed in Jesus’ sacrifice for himself has no chance of ending up in Hell. He has long passed that level or stage. He is in a place now where Hell can never ever have a hold on him.

Ephesians 2:5-6 said he is seated in the Heavenly places in Christ Jesus today. Not tomorrow or after his physical death.
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are savedwink
Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus
He is a citizen of heaven, not a candidate aspiring to go there. He came from there, it’s his place of origin. A place where he has to go back as soon as he exits this earth.
Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God


He (the believer) is joined to Christ, wherever Christ is is where he is. Where the believer goes is where Christ goes.

1Co 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
Not only is the believer joined to Christ, he is also joined in the Spirit to other believers. Where one goes is where others will go.
Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.


So to say that you saw a believer (a man who has received Salvation) in hell, is like saying you saw ALL believers in hell. We are so knitted together that our eternal destinies are intertwined, where one goes is where all goes.


If this is true, why then do people see such visions of believers going to hell for any reason?
The answer is simple. It is due to the kind of teaching they have been exposed to.

The human mind is so powerful that it can project whatever teaching you constantly feed it to your dreams and visions. This is why the scriptures encourages us to constantly renew our minds to the truths of God’s word, so we don’t end up missing out on the dividends of salvation.

Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
As you constantly renew your mind to the laid out truths of God’s eternal salvation in the scriptures, you will start having only real godly dreams and visions of heaven or hell.

Eternal death is not the destiny of the man in Christ. He has been saved from it forever. And that is not because he will always get his acts right, it is simply because Jesus has paid the ultimate price for him not to go there anymore. Don’t let any dream, vision or messages of believers going to hell fool you. Heaven is your home as a Christian and you are going there.
I hope this blesses you!

Glory to God, glory to our saviour and king!
Receive true scriptural visions today, in the name of Jesus!


https://www.feedmejesus.com/2019/06/seeing-visions-of-believers-in-hell.html?m=1

Ok. Thanks jiggaz.
Will take time and go through the others you copied me.
Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by jiggaz(m): 7:17pm On May 03, 2020
Eulalia:


Ok. Thanks jiggaz.
Will take time and go through the others you copied me.
You are welcome... You mentioned me in the other post about listening to secular music.... No,it doesn't stop you from being born again. Being born is not about being religious, it's about having a new spirit in Christ.

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Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by Nobody: 7:46pm On May 03, 2020
jiggaz:
You are welcome... You mentioned me in the other post about listening to secular music.... No,it doesn't stop you from being born again. Being born is not about being religious, it's about having a new spirit in Christ.

Ok. Thanks. But what if it has some sexual contents? I don't listen to such though. I listen to secular songs that contain moral messages and issues of life.
Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by jiggaz(m): 8:20pm On May 03, 2020
Eulalia:


Ok. Thanks. But what if it has some sexual contents? I don't listen to such though. I listen to secular songs that contain moral messages and issues of life.
You're saved by faith not by works... Read up all my threads that i mentioned you... It will help you know who you're in Christ.

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Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by Nobody: 8:43pm On May 03, 2020
jiggaz:
You're saved by faith not by works... Read up all my threads that i mentioned you... It will help you know who you're in Christ.

Ok. Thanks.
I'm on it.

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Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by jiggaz(m): 8:41pm On Jun 30, 2020
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Morning
Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by jiggaz(m): 5:43pm On Jul 01, 2020
Really
Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by jiggaz(m): 8:03pm On Jul 01, 2020
Yeah
Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by jiggaz(m): 8:09am On Jul 03, 2020
Bump...
Re: Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell - Prince Gabriel Okocha by Tuska: 5:06pm On Jul 03, 2020
Anybody who comes back from death and tell you a story of hell is a liar.

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