Dizzyrascal:
Hahahaha . Me laughing after reading the comments before my reply. This particular debate has no end because, fans of each player differ depending on viewpoint. But it is poignant to note that RONALDO has tested his mettle in different leagues/conditions and has come out tops. Ronaldo is good in the air, good with free kicks, uses both his right and left legs to devastating effect, is blessed with speed, can dribble past players, can provide that odd assist if the need arises. Infact, he built the start of his career on providing assist for teammates. I stand by my word that RONALDO is the most COMPLETE player in history........

samsam2019:
Franco Baresi and Paolo Maldini were considered the greatest defenders ever and both played for just one club.


You don't have to move around to prove your greatness. You don't expect Brad Pitt to leave Hollywood for Bollywood just t prove a stupid and senseless point.

God bless you, Messi is the best, no big team in Europe that haven't beating by Barcelona under Messi,

KendrickAyomide:
lone warrior? Look at what this foool is talking

Khaleell001:


Magician that was unable to weave his magic against Liverpool that one back magician?.

A can bet my b**** that if it were Ronaldo in that team they won't come back.

It has happened repeatedly.
it happened against:Inter ,Roma and Liverpool and you people are still being enchanted by sweet nothings.

Natoski5:
Pure bullshit!!! ....waytin concern supercomputer with footballers rating...
You people should stop been sentimental..

Messi is been feed with world class player in barcelona, cr7 is a lone warrior .

Make he leave barca weda he go still get mouth

Messi is good, buh cr7 is better!!..

thesicilian:
Messi is like a local government chairman while Ronaldo is like the president of the country. Ronaldo has proven himself in different leagues in different nations, while Messi is afraid to leave his comfort zone in Barcelona.

damosky12:




Very funny logic.

He can use right and left, head. chest and stomach is all irrelevant in determining the best players in the world. The likes of Delima Ronaldo, Crespo, Drogba, etc. share these features. Even Nigerian Yekini had crazy shot with both legs and head...

Those features are not extraordinary.

But, you know what. Messi is on a different levels. He score goals, assists, mad free kicks, etc. Yet, there is more to his game...
He skips past four five defenders as though they are primary school kids, he literally does strange things with the ball...


If you take away goals and assists from the both players, you and I know that Messi will obviously be the most interesting player to watch.

obembet:
It is a question that has both fascinated and bored football fans in equal measure for years, but we may finally have an answer over just who is better between Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo .

It all depends on whether or not you agree with computer scientists from Belgium's KU Leuven university, who claim to have come up with the definitive formula to determine just which one of the old rivals is the better footballer.

As reported by Sporza in Belgium, professors at the university have teamed up with Dutch data specialists SciSports to come up with something called Valuing Actions by Estimating Probabilities (VAEP), which they say gives the answer to the eternal Messi-Ronaldo question.

The formula looks at the players' all-round games, and claims to take into account everything that they do on the pitch in both attacking and defensive roles.

"The value of a soccer player is often determined by goals and assists," said Jesse Davis , a professor at the university.

"A goal is a rare event, however, because an average of 1,600 actions are estimated to occur in a match. Our model looks at each action - shots, passes, dribbles, tackles - and calculates its value."

So, to the bit you're here for.

Data was analysed from the 2013/14 season up to the end of 2017/18 when Ronaldo left Real Madrid , and after feeding the results through their supercomputer - at least we presume it is pretty super - the researchers found that it is Messi who comes out on top.

And by quite a long way.

The Argentinean comes out with a VAEP score of 1.21 per game, which is much higher than Ronaldo's 0.61.

"In the first seasons, Messi and Ronaldo's scores are very close to each other," says PhD student Tom Decroos , who helped with the research.

"From the 2015/16 season, Messi has stepped away from his eternal rival."

Decroos went on to elaborate on how Messi differs from some of the modern greats when it comes to the formula.

"We see a trade-off with most football players: either they make a lot of actions with a less high value - that's the case with Paul Pogba, for example," he said.

"Or you have players who are less likely to hit the ball, but who have a big impact. That is typical of strikers like Harry Kane, Mohamed Salah and Ronaldo.

"Messi is exceptional in this area: the Argentinian has a very high number of actions and they also have a high value."

So there you go. Case closed.

That all depends on whether or not you like the answer.

Source:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/supercomputer-determines-who-better-between-18969139.amp

Mentorkaryhm:
A real king doesn't control one jungle. Show me a great player that played only in one league. You can mention skills, dribbles and scoring abilities, but don't let all these be synonymous to a particular environment.
Using every parts of the body in goal scoring is also a factor to considered.
Right legs
Left legs
Head.

Igbosmoker:
and ronaldo is moving to already made teams, if ronaldo wants to prove a point that he's greater than Lionel messi, he should have moved to CA Osasuna in LA liga instead of real Madrid, he should also moved to SS Lazio in serial a instead of juventus. Both juventis and real Madrid have been winning trophies before ronnaldo and are one of the biggest clubs in each of their respective leagues.
Messi has played under different coaches and teammates, his performance hasn't changed and he still leads, imagine messi going to PSG or Bayern Munich, are you telling me messi won't score or win trophies their? Lol ronaldo fans are dumb sha .
Every world class players, coaches and legends have all said messi is the greatest, no wonder messi is living rent free inside ronaldo head,you people are obsessed with a player that don't care about individual glories

Raydos:
Those that say messi is the best player: "Guardiola, Mourihno, Klopp, Rio-Ferdinand, Ibrahaimovic, Mane, and so on


Those that say Ronaldo is the best player: "Bet9ja guys, barbers, bricklayer, carpenter!""

Dizzyrascal:
Hahahaha . Me laughing after reading the comments before my reply. This particular debate has no end because, fans of each player differ depending on viewpoint. But it is poignant to note that RONALDO has tested his mettle in different leagues/conditions and has come out tops. Ronaldo is good in the air, good with free kicks, uses both his right and left legs to devastating effect, is blessed with speed, can dribble past players, can provide that odd assist if the need arises. Infact, he built the start of his career on providing assist for teammates. I stand by my word that RONALDO is the most COMPLETE player in history........

nuggarito:
when you inarguably conquered the English league, conquered the Spanish league and still try to conquer the Italian league.

You must certainly be the Greatest of all time. Fear the man who has tried his feet in the deepest part of the water. Not one who is afraid to cross it.

Natoski5:
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Sorry mehn I dnt argue with kid...

PrecisionFx:


U can't say someone is most complete in history...U have only watched footballers from 1 generation.

Raydos:
Those that say messi is the best player: "Guardiola, Mourihno, Klopp, Rio-Ferdinand, Ibrahaimovic, Mane, and so on


Those that say Ronaldo is the best player: "Bet9ja guys, barbers, bricklayer, carpenter!""

Khaleell001:


Another weak point.
Ronaldo and zizuo where known for their performance at country level and a bit at club(in the case of Zizuo,wining the 2001 UCL with that slicer against Leverkrusen) .

Nobody says Messi isn't good, but Ronaldo has replicated his performance everywhere he goes and trophies to show for it, but Messi just one local champion.

Base on replication, team output and goal scoring ability at a higher level (National level, WC and UCL) Ronaldo holds the candle.

Khaleell001:


Another weak point.
Ronaldo and zizuo where known for their performance at country level and a bit at club(in the case of Zizuo,wining the 2001 UCL with that slicer against Leverkrusen) .

Nobody says Messi isn't good, but Ronaldo has replicated his performance everywhere he goes and trophies to show for it, but Messi just one local champion.

Base on replication, team output and goal scoring ability at a higher level (National level, WC and UCL) Ronaldo holds the candle.

damosky12:



Ronaldo only won the CL with two teams. Seedorf did with three teams...Eto won it with two teams... Kroos won it with two teams. IT IS NO BIG DEAL.

As for "conquering" different leagues. You expect Messi to move to the the German league or Premier league and not score goals?

Devgod:
You're a fool. A big one and demented one at that. The so called kid schooled you. While you an adult whose IQ Is lower than the average room temperature talking sh*t. Only a dumb ass and a kid will watch football and say Ronaldo is better than Messi.

You can only put Ronaldo in the same sentence with Messi when talking about goals and Messi still trumps him at that.

Natoski5:



Call me back when you are done talking.. ....

Natoski5:
Pure bullshit!!! ....waytin concern supercomputer with footballers rating...
You people should stop been sentimental..

Messi is been feed with world class player in barcelona, cr7 is a lone warrior .

As he day play for him country waytin u see?

Make he leave barca weda he go still get mouth.

Talking about achievement? Cr7 has it more..so what else?

Messi is good, buh cr7 is better!!..

ashacot:
How some people see and analyze football is beyond me. One even said World cup is overated while another one said C ronalso is a better player than Zidane and ronaldo delinma. Lol. you can argue from now till end of time, both players are never the greatest footballers in the world and are never in the top 5 greatest footballers in the world. Pele, Maradona, Zidane are the 3 official greatest footballers in the world. Followed closely by ronaldo delinma. Messi is not even Argentina greatest footballer of all time how much more becoming the \greatest footballer the world has ever seen. you guys should keep arguing while Fifa and Eufa do their thing.

Igbosmoker:
and ronaldo is moving to already made teams, if ronaldo wants to prove a point that he's greater than Lionel messi, he should have moved to CA Osasuna in LA liga instead of real Madrid, he should also moved to SS Lazio in serial a instead of juventus. Both juventis and real Madrid have been winning trophies before ronnaldo and are one of the biggest clubs in each of their respective leagues.
Messi has played under different coaches and teammates, his performance hasn't changed and he still leads, imagine messi going to PSG or Bayern Munich, are you telling me messi won't score or win trophies their? Lol ronaldo fans are dumb sha .
Every world class players, coaches and legends have all said messi is the greatest, no wonder messi is living rent free inside ronaldo head,you people are obsessed with a player that don't care about individual glories

merbenko:
Why did you not bet your b**** when Ajax trash them at the present of there supporters, is Ronaldo sleeping by then