Igbosmoker:
and ronaldo is moving to already made teams, if ronaldo wants to prove a point that he's greater than Lionel messi, he should have moved to CA Osasuna in LA liga instead of real Madrid, he should also moved to SS Lazio in serial a instead of juventus. Both juventis and real Madrid have been winning trophies before ronnaldo and are one of the biggest clubs in each of their respective leagues.
Messi has played under different coaches and teammates, his performance hasn't changed and he still leads, imagine messi going to PSG or Bayern Munich, are you telling me messi won't score or win trophies their? Lol ronaldo fans are dumb sha .
Every world class players, coaches and legends have all said messi is the greatest, no wonder messi is living rent free inside ronaldo head,you people are obsessed with a player that don't care about individual glories

Lol, Ronaldo is a world class player; so, only world class clubs can afford him. He never bad for am to dey play for those ur aforementioned clubs. Peace bro.

nairamaniac:



I want to believe that u watch football matches courtesy of beer parlour gists and analysis.


Ronaldo has not occurred in top 10 players worldwide with most dribbles for past 5 to 6 years.

Messi has been at worst 3rd for past 10years.

What did u say about Ronaldo and assists concerning his start is his career??

E clear say u no know one single thing about ronaldo u are even talking about.

Hope u know Lionel messi is the only player that has had the most assist and goals in LA liga in multiple seasons?

Lionel messi may touch the ball with only his left leg, but his entire body, right leg and head moves along with that left leg to destroy markers.

Messi's body movements beats defenders and u people say he is only one legged.

Meanwhile, Ronaldo that has all the right leg, left leg, k-leg, speed and heading cannot complete more than an average of 2 dribbles per match.


Ronaldo is only more hardworking than messi, towards scoring goals, dats all.

i don’t agree about the goals go and check Ronaldo and Messi career you’ll understand that Messi is a goal machine than Ronaldo Before Messi started football Ronaldo have played 160+ matches how many goals different between them now

Mentorkaryhm:
A real king doesn't control one jungle. Show me a great player that played only in one league. You can mention skills, dribbles and scoring abilities, but don't let all these be synonymous to a particular environment.
Using every parts of the body in goal scoring is also a factor to considered.
Right legs
Left legs
Head.

Are we talking about who is the best in playing football the game football the word football or we are talking about who is best moving from one club to another. Is the ballon d'or a one jungle a thing? Abeg make ona try answer this question o is the ballon d'or a one jungle thing??

obembet:
It is a question that has both fascinated and bored football fans in equal measure for years, but we may finally have an answer over just who is better between Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo .

It all depends on whether or not you agree with computer scientists from Belgium's KU Leuven university, who claim to have come up with the definitive formula to determine just which one of the old rivals is the better footballer.

As reported by Sporza in Belgium, professors at the university have teamed up with Dutch data specialists SciSports to come up with something called Valuing Actions by Estimating Probabilities (VAEP), which they say gives the answer to the eternal Messi-Ronaldo question.

The formula looks at the players' all-round games, and claims to take into account everything that they do on the pitch in both attacking and defensive roles.

"The value of a soccer player is often determined by goals and assists," said Jesse Davis , a professor at the university.

"A goal is a rare event, however, because an average of 1,600 actions are estimated to occur in a match. Our model looks at each action - shots, passes, dribbles, tackles - and calculates its value."

So, to the bit you're here for.

Data was analysed from the 2013/14 season up to the end of 2017/18 when Ronaldo left Real Madrid , and after feeding the results through their supercomputer - at least we presume it is pretty super - the researchers found that it is Messi who comes out on top.

And by quite a long way.

The Argentinean comes out with a VAEP score of 1.21 per game, which is much higher than Ronaldo's 0.61.

"In the first seasons, Messi and Ronaldo's scores are very close to each other," says PhD student Tom Decroos , who helped with the research.

"From the 2015/16 season, Messi has stepped away from his eternal rival."

Decroos went on to elaborate on how Messi differs from some of the modern greats when it comes to the formula.

"We see a trade-off with most football players: either they make a lot of actions with a less high value - that's the case with Paul Pogba, for example," he said.

"Or you have players who are less likely to hit the ball, but who have a big impact. That is typical of strikers like Harry Kane, Mohamed Salah and Ronaldo.

"Messi is exceptional in this area: the Argentinian has a very high number of actions and they also have a high value."

So there you go. Case closed.

That all depends on whether or not you like the answer.

Source:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/supercomputer-determines-who-better-between-18969139.amp

normal excuse of a black nigeria man

d debate between these two dou would nt as their fans will always come up arguments and counter narrative.
however in the next ten years when they have retired and especially for those who watch them play Ronaldo will have upper hand.
In other words history will be more kind to Ronaldo because statistics

Natoski5:
Pure bullshit!!! ....waytin concern supercomputer with footballers rating...
You people should stop been sentimental..

Messi is been feed with world class player in barcelona, cr7 is a lone warrior .

As he day play for him country waytin u see?

Make he leave barca weda he go still get mouth.

Talking about achievement? Cr7 has it more..so what else?

Messi is good, buh cr7 is better!!..

ur opinion holds no water. Priviledged analyst knows better

thesicilian:
Messi is like a local government chairman while Ronaldo is like the president of the country. Ronaldo has proven himself in different leagues in different nations, while Messi is afraid to leave his comfort zone in Barcelona.

Anoda stale ideology

Dizzyrascal:
Hahahaha . Me laughing after reading the comments before my reply. This particular debate has no end because, fans of each player differ depending on viewpoint. But it is poignant to note that RONALDO has tested his mettle in different leagues/conditions and has come out tops. Ronaldo is good in the air, good with free kicks, uses both his right and left legs to devastating effect, is blessed with speed, can dribble past players, can provide that odd assist if the need arises. Infact, he built the start of his career on providing assist for teammates. I stand by my word that RONALDO is the most COMPLETE player in history........

stale ideology

So if they say only messi against 5 players and only Ronaldo against 5 players. The two games scheduled for same time, same day, same country, let me say NIGERIA but different stadiums. So ona won tell me say ona go open ona eyes say na Ronaldo game venue ona won go, lol abeggy who no go like to see good entertainment I know say all of ona na still messi venue ona go go.
Abi ona want make boredom kill ona for Ronaldo venue.

Even VanDijk who is nominated for Balon dor says, Messi is the BEST. Kids will argue that he is not tested on different leagues like the other wanderer... buhahahaha

Igbosmoker:
and ronaldo is moving to already made teams, if ronaldo wants to prove a point that he's greater than Lionel messi, he should have moved to CA Osasuna in LA liga instead of real Madrid, he should also moved to SS Lazio in serial a instead of juventus. Both juventis and real Madrid have been winning trophies before ronnaldo and are one of the biggest clubs in each of their respective leagues.
Messi has played under different coaches and teammates, his performance hasn't changed and he still leads, imagine messi going to PSG or Bayern Munich, are you telling me messi won't score or win trophies their? Lol ronaldo fans are dumb sha .
Every world class players, coaches and legends have all said messi is the greatest, no wonder messi is living rent free inside ronaldo head,you people are obsessed with a player that don't care about individual glories

I m telling u , Messi in real Madrid, Bayern, juventus, psg or any English top team won't perform. Argentine midfielders and forwards during Messi's career r as good as any top team in the world, wat happened?

Natoski5:
Pure bullshit!!! ....waytin concern supercomputer with footballers rating...
You people should stop been sentimental..

Messi is been feed with world class player in barcelona, cr7 is a lone warrior .

As he day play for him country waytin u see?

Make he leave barca weda he go still get mouth.

Talking about achievement? Cr7 has it more..so what else?

Messi is good, buh cr7 is better!!..

ode,worldclass players that have not been able to win their last 6 competitive matches without him

thesicilian:
Messi is like a local government chairman while Ronaldo is like the president of the country. Ronaldo has proven himself in different leagues in different nations, while Messi is afraid to leave his comfort zone in Barcelona.

ITS LIKE TELLING YOUR MUM TO LEAVE HER COMFORT ZONE(YOUR FATHER'S HOUSE) AND START SLEEPING AROUND WITH DIFFERENT MEN TO PROVE HERSELF

Raydos:
Those that say messi is the best player: "Guardiola, Mourihno, Klopp, Rio-Ferdinand, Ibrahaimovic, Mane, and so on


Those that say Ronaldo is the best player: "Bet9ja guys, barbers, bricklayer, carpenter!""

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adegeye38:

Messi in la liga

Mosts goals = messi
Most assist = messi
Most dribbles = messi
Most freekicks = messi
Most chances created = messi

Without messi, barca cant effectively function

Ronaldo relied on top players like ozil, modric, kroos, dimaria and benzema to feed him passes he can tapin

That is why he is not finding it easy in Juve nw

When it comes to football playing ability, messi does things no other player can do, he makes football seems easy

Lmao, the same Madrid players that r yet to recover from Ronaldo's absence. Ronaldo has one of the most assist in Madrid he was 2nd and third several times in the league,
A 34 yr old scored 19 goals in Italian league, how is that finding it difficult??

Messi is more skilled than Ronaldo but skill doesn't mean u better, ronaldinho is more skilled than Messi but he isn't better.
Ronaldo is the better winner

miketayo:


I m telling u , Messi in real Madrid, Bayern, juventus, psg or any English top team won't perform. Argentine midfielders and forwards during Messi's career r as good as any top team in the world, wat happened?

Lol now only Messi has now be come Argentina, why didn’t they perform, mr top team No be only top team, na top rank hotel.

Rotimi47:
No mind them. Computer is garbage in garbage out; it's what you input that you get as output.

Programming is all about human input.

Let ask them whether a computer can build and programme itself all by itself

Their yeye dey smell.

Unlike we humans, t computer can't be bias. It carried out the analysis making use of different variables for both Messi and Ronaldo, and messi came top by a wide margin.
Just like for you to take the first position in a particular class u have to do well in all your subject, not just mathematics and English.

Peresrichly:

Lol now only Messi has now be come Argentina, why didn’t they perform, mr top team No be only top team, na top rank hotel.

Lolzz so u r telling me as great as he is he can't carry a team with other world class stars ?

Am angry now......y would dey b using computer to check if Lio is better nawaooo meaning dea eyes are not working.

Dispensable:
i don’t agree about the goals go and check Ronaldo and Messi career you’ll understand that Messi is a goal machine than Ronaldo Before Messi started football Ronaldo have played 160+ matches how many goals different between them now

Thats y I say "more hard working".

Doesn't mean ronaldo is a better goal scorer.

Tersorio:

Unlike we humans, t computer can't be bias. It carried out the analysis making use of different variables for both Messi and Ronaldo, and messi came top by a wide margin.
Just like for you to take the first position in a particular class u have to do well in all your subject, not just mathematics and English.

A computer can't be bias as if a computer have the mind of its own!

Just go through your comment again and compare it to mine.

A computer can never programme itself and it only do what it is programmed to do.

If another programmer input into the computer no of goals scored or number of clubs played for or even international trophy won by the two as a criteria to pick the best among the two; Cr7 will be picked by the computer.

I must say that your comment is very wrong because the computer simply worked with what they input into it and also as programmed.

miketayo:


Lolzz so u r telling me as great as he is he can't carry a team with other world class stars ?

Are sure they are willing for him to carry them, it seems you don’t watch Argentina matches. They all wants to carry themselves Everybody will be claim top team players but when blame game comes it’s messi

Olamilekxy:



what are you saying?

wht did u read.

Igbosmoker:
messi is like that loyal local government chairman that use all the resources available to him to build his constituency while ronaldo is like a president that loot his country money and deposit it in other countries

Judging by your name, that Igbo you smoke is truly disturbing you.

Raydos:
Those that say messi is the best player: "Guardiola, Mourihno, Klopp, Rio-Ferdinand, Ibrahaimovic, Mane, and so on


Those that say Ronaldo is the best player: "Bet9ja guys, barbers, bricklayer, carpenter!""

mugu like you joined them

Natoski5:
Pure bullshit!!! ....waytin concern supercomputer with footballers rating...
You people should stop been sentimental..

Messi is been feed with world class player in barcelona, cr7 is a lone warrior .

As he day play for him country waytin u see?

Make he leave barca weda he go still get mouth.

Talking about achievement? Cr7 has it more..so what else?

Messi is good, buh cr7 is better!!..

wetin concern VAR and football

I wonder what journalists and Supercomputers will analyze after the retirement of these freaks!!!

Natoski5:
Pure bullshit!!! ....waytin concern supercomputer with footballers rating...
You people should stop been sentimental..

Messi is been feed with world class player in barcelona, cr7 is a lone warrior .

As he day play for him country waytin u see?

Make he leave barca weda he go still get mouth.

Talking about achievement? Cr7 has it more..so what else?

Messi is good, buh cr7 is better!!..

Assuming the computer said Ronaldo won, you would've added it to his many achievements.

Fact is there will be 2 sides. Those that feels Messi is the greatest and those that think it's Ronaldo. For me, it's Messi and i don't need a computer to tell me that. Though i agree with the logic used by the scientists.

Meanwhile that Paul Pogba Evaluation Made me laugh and it's true.

Mentorkaryhm:
A real king doesn't control one jungle. Show me a great player that played only in one league. You can mention skills, dribbles and scoring abilities, but don't let all these be synonymous to a particular environment.
Using every parts of the body in goal scoring is also a factor to considered.
Right legs
Left legs
Head.

pele, messi, Gerard, Lampard etc