MuttleyLaff:
You tell me. I have read at least two people calling you names, in the same way and similar manner, you've adopted and enjoyed unneccesarily calling me names. I think there are more people calling a satanist, but those two are ones I know of recently

I have never itched for any thread to be derailed. I merely brought those two names to your remembrace, because you sure know how it feels, when falsely accused and unpleasntly being called names. If you dont like that, then why are you doing same to another, hmm?

I've learned that typing insults and calling others names, are the last resort of a worried person with a shallow position and trying to appear still having it together

If you know you arent a Satanist, you know you can never be one. I guess, in the same way I am not a homosexual apologist. Like I've said, you've only read what you want to read the way you want to read it.

I am not on trial. These questions have nothing to do with questioning the truthfulness of the Book(s) of Enoch

Ah, you are ashamed to talk about your views on homosexuality here.

No worries though. I'm sorry for calling you a homosexual apologist...if you're not one. But I was very convinced you were in full support of monogamous homosexual relationship...

I was surprised you were asking for a debate after the homosexuality argument. I don't want to engage myself in that kind of debate ever, where you showcased so much evasiveness. Even Shepherd00 could attest to that.

EnthronedbyGod:
The arguments aren't encouraging at all.

It is well sha, but please let's not derail the thread any longer and please do well to ignore certain people, even if they quote you.

Self control is very important in our Christian race, the Bible says every man that strives for the mastery is temperate in all things.

God bless

My apologies for derailing. It was not intended.

butterfly777:
EnthronedbyGod, can you help with these questions?:
1. What are the ways of identifying a witch?
2. How can one deal with a witch on evil mission?
3. How can one minister deliverance to a witch or cultist?
4. How can one prevent people from being initiated into witchcraft?
5. Give some other helpful things one should know about witchcraft?
6. How can one hinder their operations?
7. How can one disband a witchcraft group/coven?
8. Are there any signs of witch presence or activity in an environment?
Thanks and much love.

The best and most potent way to identify a witch is by the gifts of the spirit( discerning of spirits), I don't mean discernment, cos discerning of spirits is different from discernment.

Discerning of spirits is supernatural revelation into the spirit realm.

There is a mark on the forehead of every witchcraft agent , just like there is a mark on every Christian, but you can only see this through the gift of discerning of spirits.

EnthronedbyGod:



The Lord was Jewish while on earth and when He appears in His human form, He maintains that Jewish look.

That picture posted here is similar to the way He looks when He appears in His human form, though not perfect, by the grace of God I've seen Him on 4 occasions. 3 in His human form and 1 in His glorious form.

Burnished brass is like coffee brown- I think the guys who translated that Greek word to burnished brass didn't do so well, cos when I saw Him in His glory , He wasn't coffee brown, but His legs where kind of like yellowish brown and shining , that's why I used the word golden bronze in that my thread and not burnished brass.

https://www.nairaland.com/5302237/visions-celestial-beings-heaven-end.

That's a link to the thread, you can check it up.

You could also probably check the Greek word translated to burnished brass to know the real colour.

Are "Jewish" people today not white?
If indeed that picture is real, would that not be contradicting the scriptures, according to the book, iburu people are always described as black,How can the Lord then be anything but. If the Jesus you saw is as pale as that man, then I really don't know what to believe cus' I know someone who'd seen Jesus in a vision and the description he gave is actually that of a colored man, like Jesus having afro hair.

michaelkaroh:

Are "Jewish" people today not white?
If indeed that picture is real, would that not be contradicting the scriptures, according to the book, iburu people are always described as black,How can the Lord then be anything but. If the Jesus you saw is as pale as that man, then I really don't know what to believe cus' I know someone who'd seen Jesus in a vision and the description he gave is actually that of a colored man, like Jesus having afro hair.

I said that picture wasn't perfect but similar.

I'm not good at colours or knowing who is white or black, all I know is that the Jesus i saw is similar to that pics.

I don't know if I'll call him white or coloured, all I know is that He is like a Jew in His human form.

If you're looking for a Jesus that's black as you , you'll never see, cos he isn't African

You need to see Him yourself and stop confusing yourself.

I've given you the answer to the question, you asked, if you don't believe my answer, then pray to see Him yourself.

I'll not answer you again if you quote me, cos I don't want to derail this thread myself.

The mark is the sign of the interlocking pendant star, maybe I'll draw a sketch of it and send it to someone to post for me, cos I can't post pics.

This pendant is also worn by high ranking members of the church of Satan, some witches even wear it on their necks physically, they do it to show their allegiance to satan.

Also if you have someone who constantly sleeps with one of his/her legs placed on the wall, their is 95% possibility that such person is a witch.

Also when you're in a church probably as a pastor and someone is always sitting in the front with his/her legs crossed or a folded arms while prayers are going on there is also a probability that such person is an agent of darkness.


This doesn't mean every person you see crossing legs is an agent, so please don't misunderstand me.

That's why if you go to some Churches they won't allow you sit in front with a crossed legs or arms.

However the best way to detect an agent is through discerning of spirits as I states earlier.

EnthronedbyGod:


I said that picture wasn't perfect but similar.

I'm not good at colours or knowing who is white or black, all I know is that the Jesus i saw is similar to that pics.

I don't know if I'll call him white or coloured, all I know is that He is like a Jew in His human form.

If you're looking for a Jesus that's black as you , you'll never see, cos he isn't African

You need to see Him yourself and stop confusing yourself.

I've given you the answer to the question, you asked, if you don't believe my answer, then pray to see Him yourself.

I'll not answer you again if you quote me, cos I don't want to derail this thread myself.

Jesus must be black to match historical records and ancient portraits of him. How can the messiah look "jewish" when Jews today are not even iburus, so what is this jewish look you're talking about?.

Judging by what is known of/by genetics today, only Africans are 100% hue-man, all other groups are of corrupt blood as they have some animal dna in them.

Honestly, I really don't like this thing you do, you always threaten to ignore if one is trying to probe further on topics you brought up. This in no way derails the thread as it is in line with the topic(s) of discourse.

OkCornel:
But you claimed I'm calling you names.

I am not claiming, you called me names, similar way and manner, others call you a satanist, that you bitterly always complain against and bring the attention of moderators to.

OkCornel:
1) You didn't answer my questions on Enoch & Elijah.

"... when trying to explain what happened to Elijah or Enoch and why Moses' body was never found, teleporting has always being vaguely mentioned in the Bible, just as happened to Elijah, Enoch or Moses before, Jesus too was teleported at least twice in the Bible. He was teleported into the desert to be tempted by the satan. He, Jesus and the fishing boat were teleported to the shore. There are other examples apart from these two of teleporting in the Bible

As WhoIBe said, we sometimes mistake teleporting for ascending into heaven, even after what Jesus confirmed in John 3:13

John 3:13
No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven--the Son of Man."
- Re: Did "Jesus" Tell A "LIE" by MuttleyLaff: 8:54am On Jul 28, 2015

Why should I answer your questions on Enoch & Elijah, when I was busy legitimately smh and laughing. You see that red inverted commas quote above, hmm? Read it again, learn and weep. Mtcheew.

OkCornel:
2) You never answered on this thread if you believe God has nothing against a monogamous homosexual relationship.

What is the relevance of the question to the issue about the genuineness of the Book of Enoch, hmm? You didnt have to resort to gutter tactics like that.

OkCornel:
Or are you ashamed to state your position on that here?

"I have been relieved of that work and no more have the liberty to talk about that subject or make comments on the matter"
- Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 10:28pm On Jul 28

I am not ashamed to state anything concerning the Gospel, but you obviously didn't and/or havent read the memo.

OkCornel:
And Muttley, here is the evidence of you claiming to blacklist me on March 10, 2018.
https://www.nairaland.com/4386878/discussion-yhwh-jewish-enki-epic/5#65717787

"Not replying me is going to the extreme... I only mentioned I was giving a direct response to Emmanystone's questions."
- Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 12:36pm On Mar 10, 2018

I remember that day, that I typed I wouldn't henceforth mention your ID nor respond again to posts you make. I explained that it's nothing personal, just that it's the best action I can think for both out sakes, and ended with saying, it has been nice discussing and learning from you, but you less than five minutes after my post, replied with the literal grovelling above inverted commas post.

That was March 10th 2018, now please tell, when, what month and year, after that my March 10th 2018 post, did I start mentioning you again and why did I?

OkCornel:
No be today you dey issue those kain threats abeg

"I've always a long time ago, perceived you, as suspect, but just tolerated you"
- Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 9:51pm

The truth is, I came to understand I have to tolerate you, so nine months after March 10th 2018, I mentioned you, having being seeing how you unflinchingly was going head to head with alBHAGDADI and this was on about obligatory/mandatory/imposed ecclesiastical tithing and Freeze. I was impressed by you staying power, standing ground and standing with stamina, so I just had to break my silence, and that I did.

OkCornel:
Stay off my mentions ...

You know what to do, if you really want MuttleyLaff stay off mentioning you. You are prolonging, derailing the thread because you already was advised to go open a thread, mention and invite me there.

OkCornel:
... you are distracting me.

You're the cause of your distraction, diverting to unrelated issues, asking unrelated questions, throwing mudslings, casting aspersions with the name calling etcetera

EnthronedbyGod:


The best and most potent way to identify a witch is by the gifts of the spirit( discerning of spirits), I don't mean discernment, cos discerning of spirits is different from discernment.

Discerning of spirits is supernatural revelation into the spirit realm.

There is a mark on the forehead of every witchcraft agent , just like there is a mark on every Christian, but you can only see this through the gift of discerning of spirits.

Thanks. Still following.

EnthronedbyGod:
The mark is the sign of the interlocking pendant star, maybe I'll draw a sketch of it and send it to someone to post for me, cos I can't post pics.

This pendant is also worn by high ranking members of the church of Satan, some witches even wear it on their necks physically, they do it to show their allegiance to satan.

Also if you have someone who constantly sleeps with one of his/her legs placed on the wall, their is 95% possibility that such person is a witch.

You may Google it. It will be online. Is that sign on our local/traditional witches too?

MuttleyLaff:
I am not claiming, you called me names, similar way and manner, others call you a satanist, that you bitterly always complain against and bring the attention of moderators to.

I called you a homosexual apologist, as you have clearly told us God has nothing against a monogamous homosexual relationship. But if you no longer follow that school of thought...oh well.

MuttleyLaff:

"... when trying to explain what happened to Elijah or Enoch and why Moses' body was never found, teleporting has always being vaguely mentioned in the Bible, just as happened to Elijah, Enoch or Moses before, Jesus too was teleported at least twice in the Bible. He was teleported into the desert to be tempted by the satan. He, Jesus and the fishing boat were teleported to the shore. There are other examples apart from these two of teleporting in the Bible

As WhoIBe said, we sometimes mistake teleporting for ascending into heaven, even after what Jesus confirmed in John 3:13

John 3:13
No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven--the Son of Man."
- Re: Did "Jesus" Tell A "LIE" by MuttleyLaff: 8:54am On Jul 28, 2015

Why should I answer your questions on Enoch & Elijah, when I was busy legitimately smh and laughing. You see that red inverted commas quote above, hmm? Read it again, learn and weep. Mtcheew.

This is why I don't see any point arguing with you. Now you are suggesting Elijah and Enoch were teleported to God know's where.

Look at the scriptures;

2 Kings 2 v 11-12;
11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.

Over 400 years later - See Malachi's prophecy on Elijah;
Malachi 4 v 5-6;
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:
6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

If this does not tell you Elijah ascended to Heaven and kept apart for an assignment at the time of the end. I don't know what else will ring a bell. Philip was teleported in the Bible, and it was clearly stated he was seen in another city after the baptism of the Ethiopian Eunuch. God hid Moses' body, so I have no idea why are you trying to fit the square peg of Moses hidden body in your round hole of teleportation theory.

Enoch and Elijah were taken to Heaven and spared the worries of death in their time. But they are set apart for a mission at the time of the end, and thereafter taste death like every other man. In case you're still trying to connect the dots, they are the two witnesses who will be empowered for the times of the end.

MuttleyLaff:

What is the relevance of the question to the issue about the genuineness of the Book of Enoch, hmm? You didnt have to resort to gutter tactics like that.

"I have been relieved of that work and no more have the liberty to talk about that subject or make comments on the matter"
- Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 10:28pm On Jul 28

Gutter tactics you say? You mean gutter tactics by evading questions like you did on the homosexuality thread and still asking me for another debate? Please I'll let that slide. Now just see how you are arguing the case of teleportation (rather than ascension to Heaven) for Elijah and Enoch. Also see how you're evasive on your stand on "monogamous consensual homosexuality" here...

MuttleyLaff:

I am not ashamed to state anything concerning the Gospel, but you obviously didn't and/or havent read the memo.

"Not replying me is going to the extreme... I only mentioned I was giving a direct response to Emmanystone's questions."
- Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 12:36pm On Mar 10, 2018

I remember that day, that I typed I wouldn't henceforth mention your ID nor respond again to posts you make. I explained that it's nothing personal, just that it's the best action I can think for both out sakes, and ended with saying, it has been nice discussing and learning from you, but you less than five minutes after my post, replied with the literal grovelling above inverted commas post.

That was March 10th 2018, now please tell, when, what month and year, after that my March 10th 2018 post, did I start mentioning you again and why did I?

"I've always a long time ago, perceived you, as suspect, but just tolerated you"
- Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 9:51pm


The truth is, I came to understand I have to tolerate you, so nine months after March 10th 2018, I mentioned you, having being seeing how you unflinchingly was going head to head with alBHAGDADI and this was on about obligatory/mandatory/imposed ecclesiastical tithing and Freeze. I was impressed by you staying power, standing ground and standing with stamina, so I just had to break my silence, and that I did.

Now you're a giving me a "touching" explanation after you earlier accused me of making up claims you wanted to blacklist me before.

MuttleyLaff:

You know what to do, if you really want MuttleyLaff stay off mentioning you. You are prolonging, derailing the thread because you already was advised to go open a thread, mention and invite me there.

You're the cause of your distraction, diverting to unrelated issues, asking unrelated questions, throwing mudslings, casting aspersions with the name calling etcetera

Never will I engage you in a debate, especially after wasting my time and that of TV01 and Shepherd00 on your "God has nothing against a consensual monogamous homosexual relationship" claims with zero scriptural backing.

michaelkaroh:
Jesus must be black to match historical records and ancient portraits of him. How can the messiah look "jewish" when Jews today are not even iburus, so what is this jewish look you're talking about?.

Judging by what is known of/by genetics today, only Africans are 100% hue-man, all other groups are of corrupt blood as they have some animal dna in them.

1/ Who else do you believe is black skinned then, aside you believing Jesus must have been black skinned, hmm?

Answer that question, then based on your answers, we can take it further, as advances are made by answering questions and discoveries made from questioning the answers.

michaelkaroh:
Honestly, I really don't like this thing you do, you always threaten to ignore if one is trying to probe further on topics you brought up This in no way derails the thread as it is in line with the topic(s) of discourse.

You dont know warris going on. Eventuarry you wil though

Didnt I tell you, no one prominently on this thread, is prepared to answer your question(s), erhn? You've discovering that some people who should be prepared and ready to answer hard questions aren't interested or ready to answer hard questions, instead they're prepared to intimidate and ready to put pressure on whoever asks hard questions.

I was watching and waiting for someone to respond but seeing that your questions, for a long time and especially being after a day, was going unanswered, I couldnt take the silence no more, so I jumped in and reached out to you with answers.

Always question the why, don't be satisfied with only knowing the how. Don't believe everything you're told and/or read, without questioning it.
It is better to debate a question without settling it, than to settle a question without debating it. Often a simple battery of questions will quickly separate the wheat from the chaff

I would rather have questions that cant be answered or I dont know the answer to, than answers that can't be questioned

Don't be afraid of the answers, but be afraid of the questions not asked. Find the courage to ask/listen to questions you're afraid to hear the answer to. Why? It is because its the only way you'll know which direction your truth lays

A wise person, can learn more from a foolish question, than an unwise person, can learn from a wise answer.

OkCornel:
I called you a homosexual apologist, as you have clearly told us God has nothing against a monogamous homosexual relationship. But if you no longer follow that school of thought...oh well

Are you still on this, like as if, dog to a bone, determined to keep on bring up something totally unrelated to talking about the genuineness of the Book of Enoch, even after I've told you not to bring it up here and even showed you the memo you missed and didnt read. No wonder LifestyleTonite and alBHAGDADI perceived you to be a satanist

OkCornel:
This is why I don't see any point arguing with you. Now you are suggesting Elijah and Enoch were teleported to God know's where.

Look at the scriptures;

2 Kings 2 v 11-12;
11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.

Over 400 years later - See Malachi's prophecy on Elijah;
Malachi 4 v 5-6;
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:
6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

If this does not tell you Elijah ascended to Heaven and kept apart for an assignment at the time of the end. I don't know what else will ring a bell. Philip was teleported in the Bible, and it was clearly stated he was seen in another city after the baptism of the Ethiopian Eunuch. God hid Moses' body, so I have no idea why are you trying to fit the square peg of Moses hidden body in your round hole of teleportation theory.

Enoch and Elijah were taken to Heaven and spared the worries of death in their time. But they are set apart for a mission at the time of the end, and thereafter taste death like every other man. In case you're still trying to connect the dots, they are the two witnesses who will be empowered for the times of the end.

I am sure you noted what year my comment was made, that's right it was in 2015. Now you see why I didnt bother with your ignoranus questions on Elijah and Enoch. Your abject ignorance doesnt warrant nor deserve me dignifying you a response at all.

Usually, I would have offer a person like this, a chance to shine, by opening a thread, mention me and then invite to discuss it, but you its a lost cause

OkCornel:
Gutter tactics you say? You mean gutter tactics by evading questions like you did on the homosexuality thread and still asking me for another debate? Please I'll let that slide. Now just see how you are arguing the case of teleportation (rather than ascension to Heaven) for Elijah and Enoch.

It is not my fault if you are deficient in this subject. It is not your first and surely isnt the last. It's either Jesus or you is a liar, about anyone being in heaven. I know who is between both of you.

OkCornel:
Also see how you're evasive on your stand on "monogamous consensual homosexuality" here..

He's started again, with a behaviour like this, I wonder how someone maritally lives with you

OkCornel:
Now you're a giving me a "touching" explanation after you earlier accused me of making up claims you wanted to blacklist me before.

Dont flatter yourself. No, but I was putting the record straight that I kept my word for nine months plus and only against my better judgment reverted

OkCornel:
Never will I engage you in a debate, especially after wasting my time and that of TV01 and Shepherd00 on your "God has nothing against a consensual monogamous homosexual relationship" claims with zero scriptural backing.

As if I care. Everyone is aware of your modus operandi. I would love you keep schtum, but I know it'll be asking a cat to guard a bowl of milk. Thats mission impossible. You really should take to the advice EnthronedbyGod gave you.

MuttleyLaff:
Are you still on this, like as if, dog to a bone, determined to keep on bring up something totally unrelated to talking about the genuineness of the Book of Enoch, even after I've told you not to bring it up here and even showed you the memo you missed and didnt read. No wonder LifestyleTonite and alBHAGDADI perceived you to be a satanist

Yeah right, no wonder the Pharisees also accused Jesus of being in league with Belzeebub.

Muttley, you said I called you names. The only names I called you here is homosexual apologist and overgrown kid. If that is not the case, why are you preaching God has nothing against consensual monogamous homosexual relationships? Why are you evasive on that here?

MuttleyLaff:

I am sure you noted what year my comment was made, that's right it was in 2015. Now you see why I didnt bother with your ignoranus questions on Elijah and Enoch. Your abject ignorance doesnt warrant nor deserve me dignifying you a response at all.

It is not my fault if you are deficient in this subject. It is not your first and surely isnt the last. It's either Jesus or you is a liar, about anyone being in heaven. I know who is between both of you.

I guess the author of the book of Kings lied that Elijah ascended to Heaven in a chariot of fire. I also guess Malachi was high when he stated Elijah would return at the time of the end in Malachi 4 v 5.

Try harder and spin the scriptures with your teleportation theory.

MuttleyLaff:

He's started again, with a behaviour like this, I wonder how someone maritally lives with you

Dont flatter yourself. No, but I was putting the record straight that I kept my word for nine months plus and only against my better judgment reverted

Keep quiet there. You earlier stated on this thread I was making up claims of you blacklisting me. You asked for evidence, which I showed you...and you're shifting goalpost again?

MuttleyLaff:

As if I care. Everyone is aware of your modus operandi. I would love you keep schtum, but I know it'll be asking a cat to guard a bowl of milk. Thats mission impossible. You really should take to the advice EnthronedbyGod gave you.

Stay off my mentions. You're a distraction on this thread as EnthronedbyGod rightly pointed out.

MuttleyLaff:


Usually, I would have offer a person like this, a chance to shine, by opening a thread, mention me and then invite to discuss it, but you its a lost cause

I can see you modified your initial post to include this bit.

Keep your chance to yourself. I have repeatedly mentioned this here, I see absolutely no point in arguing with you, especially after your disgusting evasive tactics on the homosexuality thread.

And now you're spinning in your teleportation theory on Elijah when indeed the Bible clearly stated he ascended to Heaven, and Malachi clearly stating he will return before the dreadful day of the Lord - Malachi 4 v 5.

I can't waste my time with spin doctors and evasive specialists.

MuttleyLaff:
1/ Who else do you believe is black skinned then, aside you believing Jesus must have been black skinned, hmm?

Answer that question, then based on your answers, we can take it further, as advances are made by answering questions and discoveries made from questioning the answers.

You dont know warris going on. Eventuarry you wil though

Didnt I tell you, no one prominently on this thread, is prepared to answer your question(s), erhn? You've discovering that some people who should be prepared and ready to answer hard questions aren't interested or ready to answer hard questions, instead they're prepared to intimidate and ready to put pressure on whoever asks hard questions.

I was watching and waiting for someone to respond but seeing that your questions, for a long time and especially being after a day, was going unanswered, I couldnt take the silence no more, so I jumped in and reached out to you with answers.

Always question the why, don't be satisfied with only knowing the how. Don't believe everything you're told and/or read, without questioning it.
It is better to debate a question without settling it, than to settle a question without debating it. Often a simple battery of questions will quickly separate the wheat from the chaff

I would rather have questions that cant be answered or I dont know the answer to, than answers that can't be questioned

Don't be afraid of the answers, but be afraid of the questions not asked. Find the courage to ask/listen to questions you're afraid to hear the answer to. Why? It is because its the only way you'll know which direction your truth lays

A wise person, can learn more from a foolish question, than an unwise person, can learn from a wise answer.

The ancient world was black/brown.
The iburus, hausirians(assyrians), chad(chaldeans), izon (zidonians), edo or idu (edomites) were all black and purely Africa.

My dear friends discussing the book of Enoch and the likes. Some of us are definitely reading ur posts and learning from them. However, it is neither polite nor Christlike to derail an existing thread with prolonged arguments on weighty subject as that. Kindly shift ur discussion to a fresh thread and we will come and read it. Let this particular thread achieve it's purpose. We cannot shy away from learning on any subject. Knowledge is power.

butterfly777:
My dear friends discussing the book of Enoch and the likes. Some of us are definitely reading ur posts and learning from them. However, it is neither polite nor Christlike to derail an existing thread with prolonged arguments on weighty subject as that. Kindly shift ur discussion to a fresh thread and we will come and read it. Let this particular thread achieve it's purpose. We cannot shy away from learning on any subject. Knowledge is power.

Thank you bro. Let's stick to the topic.

I only corroborated the OPs feedback on the origins of sorcery/witchcraft with was written in the book of Enoch. But someone is apparently angry with that.

OkCornel:
Yeah right, no wonder the Pharisees also accused Jesus of being in league with Belzeebub.

Muttley, you said I called you names. The only names I called you here is homosexual apologist and overgrown kid. If that is not the case, why are you preaching God has nothing against consensual monogamous homosexual relationships? Why are you evasive on that here?

Why are you calling other people names, I mean calling me names, especially if you kick against others calling you names and trying to get the attention of moderators to them calling you names. You acted like a hypocrite, by resorting to calling me names, as you've just, thank God, admitted you have.

OkCornel:
I guess the author of the book of Kings lied that Elijah ascended to Heaven in a chariot of fire. I also guess Malachi was high when he stated Elijah would return at the time of the end in Malachi 4 v 5.

Try harder and spin the scriptures with your teleportation theory

You obviously are out of your depth. Keep taking pride and delight in being an ignoramus.

OkCornel:
Keep quiet there. You earlier stated on this thread I was making up claims of you blacklisting me. You asked for evidence, which I showed you...and you're shifting goalpost again?

I have not shifted any goal post, the goal is still standing in place, wide open. I actually gave a background and proper view of the goal post. I against my better judgement de-blacklisted you after keeping my word for more than 9 months.

OkCornel:
Stay off my mentions. You're a distraction on this thread as EnthronedbyGod rightly pointed out.

You have being personally advised by me how you can get me to stay off your mention. EnthronedbyGod, too equally has given you a wise thing to do, but of course, you would choose to ignore both our good and timely advices

butterfly777:
My dear friends discussing the book of Enoch and the likes. Some of us are definitely reading ur posts and learning from them

If you're truly and really a friend, you'll be honest to admit, the chance to go open a thread to flesh out the fake news accursed Book of Enoch was given, then to mention and invite me to it, all so not to derail or create diversion on the thread.

I hope you're learning also, how not to be a hypocrite, how to listen to meaningful advice on how stop your moniker ID from mentions and how to stop opportunity to derail the thread, hmm?

I also hope, you're learning how to courteous, how not to be calling people names, how not to repeatedly be introducing unrelated and unconnected subjects to the thread

butterfly777:
However, it is neither polite nor Christlike to derail an existing thread with prolonged arguments on weighty subject as that. Kindly shift ur discussion to a fresh thread and we will come and read it. Let this particular thread achieve it's purpose. We cannot shy away from learning on any subject. Knowledge is power.

I am quite happy to do just that. I have from the onset, offered to do just that. You haven't been honest, fair, just and balanced on your observations of what's being going on the thread and nailing the nail on the head on who the instigator and aggressor is in this matter. Is it polite calling other names, is it polite or Christ-like introducing unrelating subject or issues to threads hmm?

I have given advice on how this can be put to rest.

michaelkaroh:
The ancient world was black/brown.
The iburus, hausirians(assyrians), chad(chaldeans), izon (zidonians), edo or idu (edomites) were all black and purely Africa.

Its OK if you don't feel like responding to the question about who else do you believe is black skinned then, aside believing Jesus must have been black skinned, hmm?

I really wished you'd aswer that question, so that then based on your answers, we can take it further, because advances are made by answering questions and then discoveries made from questioning the answers.

Who else according to your understanding is black skinned? Adam? Esau? Moses? King Solomon? The disciples? C'mon now, you're behaving like EnthronedbyGod and doing closely and exactly what you've accused him of. That is evading answering questions.

MuttleyLaff:
Why are you calling other people names, I mean calling me names, especially if you kick against others calling you names and trying to get the attention of moderators to them calling you names. You acted like a hypocrite, by resorting to calling me names, as you've just, thank God, admitted you have.

You obviously are out of your depth. Keep taking pride and delight in being an ignoramus.

I have not shifted any goal post, the goal is still standing in place, wide open. I actually gave a background and proper view of the goal post. I against my better judgement de-blacklisted you after keeping my word for more than 9 months.

You have being personally advised by me how you can get me to stay off your mention. EnthronedbyGod, too equally has given you a wise thing to do, but of course, you would choose to ignore both our good and timely advices

If you're truly and really a friend, you'll be honest to admit, the chance to go open a thread to flesh out the fake news accursed Book of Enoch was given, then to mention and invite me to it, all so not to derail or create diversion on the thread.

I hope you're learning also, how not to be a hypocrite, how to listen to meaningful advice on how stop your moniker ID from mentions and how to stop opportunity to derail the thread, hmm?

I also hope, you're learning how to courteous, how not to be calling people names, how not to repeatedly be introducing unrelated and unconnected subjects to the thread

I am quite happy to do just that. I have from the onset, offered to do just that. You haven't been honest, fair, just and balanced on your observations of what's being going on the thread and nailing the nail on the head on who the instigator and aggressor is in this matter. Is it polite calling other names, is it polite or Christ-like introducing unrelating subject or issues to threads hmm?

I have given advice on how this can be put to rest.

Now I can see your elusive nature at play here.

Muttley, are you in support of homosexuality? Come out clean here and let everyone see why I called you a homosexual apologist.

Stop this hypocrisy and come out clean.

MuttleyLaff:
Please stop this shenanigan crafty games you are playing. You and your clique claim God hates homosexuals and detests the homosexuality acts isn't it? I have painstakingly enumerated how this lie has been perpetrated. I have presented facts, facts that can be verified and fact checked to see if what I type were incorrect.

Just this week, the Pope, has put forward that part of the Lord's prayer in the Bible, should be changed. Well that is yet another mistake and mistranslation he is trying to correct.

Bury your head in the sand, stick to your guns, and hold your foot in the ground, it's no concern to me, if the truth is too harsh for your eyes to see it. I'll soon be shaking off the dust of my slippers concerning you.

https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult/3#79097453

This is one of your numerous posts on that thread arguing in favor of homosexuality. If you're not a homosexual apologist, then what else should I call you? A homosexual believer?

Bring your hide and seek games here and telling me to debate with you for what exactly?

Get off my mentions

EnthronedbyGod:
Also when you're in a church probably as a pastor and someone is always sitting in the front with his/her legs crossed or a folded arms while prayers are going on there is also a probability that such person is an agent of darkness.


This doesn't mean every person you see crossing legs is an agent, so please don't misunderstand me.

That's why if you go to some Churches they won't allow you sit in front with a crossed legs or arms.

However the best way to detect an agent is throu gh discerning of spirits as I states earlier.

Good morning Sir! I have some questions to ask and I really need your help ..what does it mean to receive a strange bible in a dream ?? When I say strange Bible, I mean a different kind of Bible... I can't even describe it but it was a Bible cuz I was given verses to read from it and I did!!

MuttleyLaff:
Its OK if you don't feel like responding to the question about who else do you believe is black skinned then, aside believing Jesus must have been black skinned, hmm?

I really wished you'd aswer that question, so that then based on your answers, we can take it further, because advances are made by answering questions and then discoveries made from questioning the answers.

Who else according to your understanding is black skinned? Adam? Esau? Moses? King Solomon? The disciples? C'mon now, you're behaving like EnthronedbyGod and doing closely and exactly what you've accused him of. That is evading answering questions.

All the iburus are black, plus all the other nations, that is what I wrote. You didn't expect me to call them by their names, or did you?.....
From the beginning, man was made in God's image, that is, black.
I don't know how else to answer this question.

MuttleyLaff:


I have not shifted any goal post, the goal is still standing in place, wide open. I actually gave a background and proper view of the goal post. I against my better judgement de-blacklisted you after keeping my word for more than 9 months.

Mr. man , keep quiet. This was you asking for evidence where you mentioned you will blacklist me, and you accused me of MAKING UP THAT CLAIM

MuttleyLaff:

I very much would appreciate and like to see you provide the evidence of the first time of me yapping about blacklisting, but knowing you for what you are, you've made this up, just the same way the variant books of Enoch, starting from the first centuary and subsequent ones are made up

https://www.nairaland.com/5252047/cultism-spiritual-consequences-deliverance-through/55#81481077




And after showing you this post from March 2018 where you actually did so, you are now yapping about telling me it was a temporary thing.
https://www.nairaland.com/4386878/discussion-yhwh-jewish-enki-epic/5#65717787

Oh, so it's not longer about me making up such claims? You are only trying to be elusive and slippery. Oya, type another long epistle with vocabularies and GIFs

I don't tolerate spin doctors, stay on your lane.

michaelkaroh:


All the iburus are black, plus all the other nations, that is what I wrote. You didn't expect me to call them by their names, or did you?.....
From the beginning, man was made in God's image, that is, black.
I don't know how else to answer this question.

In whose image were the white people created?

OkCornel:


Mr. man , keep quiet. This was you asking for evidence that you where you mentioned you will blacklist me, and you accused me of MAKING UP THAT CLAIM


https://www.nairaland.com/5252047/cultism-spiritual-consequences-deliverance-through/55#81481077




And after showing you this post from March 2018 where you actually did so, you are yapping about telling me it was a temporary thing.
https://www.nairaland.com/4386878/discussion-yhwh-jewish-enki-epic/5#65717787

Oh, so it's not longer about me making up such claims? You are only trying to be elusive and slippery. Oya, type another long epistle with vocabularies and GIFs

I don't tolerate spin doctors, stay on your lane.

Please my bro, stop dignifying the fool with a response(especially on this thread), for he's not worth it.

Trust me, I know what I'm talking about.

God bless.

OkCornel:


In whose image were the white people created?

Pale people today are a mixture of black aboriginal Europeans and neanderthals.God never made anyone pale. Pale people have incomplete hue-man genomes.

michaelkaroh:


Pale people today are a mixture of black aboriginal Europeans and neanderthals.God never made anyone pale. Pale people have incomplete hue-man genomes.

God never created anyone pale?

Ok, so who created them?

Also do me a favor, check up the Hebrew meaning of Adam, Edom and also check the meaning of Cush.

OkCornel:


Ah, you are ashamed to talk about your views on homosexuality here.

No worries though. I'm sorry for calling you a homosexual apologist...if you're not one. But I was very convinced you were in full support of monogamous homosexual relationship...

I was surprised you were asking for a debate after the homosexuality argument. I don't want to engage myself in that kind of debate ever, where you showcased so much evasiveness. Even Shepherd00 could attest to that.

Let homosexuality stay in homosexuality thread nah? Me I don tire sef.

Shepherd00:

Let homosexuality stay in homosexuality thread nah? Me I don tire sef.

Of course, I am just surprised that after his elusive rope a dope tactics on that thread, he still wants to ask for a debate.
Also see how he is trying to spin around Elijah's ascension to heaven in a Chariot of fire as "teleportation"

Anyways, I'm ready to move on, provided he stays off my mentions.

I mean, the genesis of the whole thing was me posting something from the book of Enoch that agreed with EnthronedbyGod's position on the origin of sorcery and witchcraft...

And here we are right now.

OkCornel:


God never created anyone pale?

Ok, so who created them?

Also do me a favor, check up the Hebrew meaning of Adam, Edom and also check the meaning of Cush.

God created black aboriginal Europeans, not the pale hybrids today.
Adam doesn't mean red in the original iburu tongue, and as for Edom, the only people on earth that can be born red are actually Africans. You cannot say in all your years as a Nigerian, you've never seen a red hue-man before as you cannot say you've ever seen a RED European before. Cush also doesn't mean black in the original iburu language.