michaelkaroh:


God created black aboriginal Europeans, not the pale hybrids today.
Adam doesn't mean red in the original iburu tongue, and as for Edom, the only people on earth that can be born red are actually Africans. You cannot say in all your years as a Nigerian, you've never seen a red hue-man before as you cannot say you've ever seen a RED European before. Cush also doesn't mean black in the original iburu language.

1) In your "iburu" language, what does Adam, Edom and Cush mean?
2) Who created the white people we see today?

OkCornel:



In your "iburu" language, what does Adam, Edom and Cush mean?

Adam means "beginning of man" and edom means "reddish"....I do not yet know what Cush means.
Pale people today are a mixture of man and a little animal dna.

michaelkaroh:

Adam means "beginning of man" and edom means "reddish"....I do not yet know what Cush means.
Pale people today are a mixture of man and a little animal dna.

Meaning of Adam;

"Adam" is both the proper name of the first human and a designation for humankind. God himself gave this appellation to Adam and Eve ( Gen 5:1-2 ). The color red lies behind the Hebrew root adam [; 'a]. This may reflect the red soil from which he was made.

Adam was formed from the ground ( Gen 2:7 ). Word play between "Adam" and "ground" (adama [h'm'd}a]) is unmistakable. It is important that Adam is identified with humankind rather than any particular nationality. The country from which the dust was taken is not specified. Rabbis believed it came from all over the earth so no one could say, "My father is greater than yours."

https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/adam/

michaelkaroh:

Adam means "beginning of man" and edom means "reddish"....I do not yet know what Cush means.
Pale people today are a mixture of man and a little animal dna.

Meaning of Edom;

The name of Esau (q.v.), Genesis 25:30 , "Feed me, I pray thee, with that same red pottage [Heb. haadom, haadom, i.e., 'the red pottage, the red pottage'] ...Therefore was his name called Edom", i.e., Red.

https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/edom/

michaelkaroh:

Adam means "beginning of man" and edom means "reddish"....I do not yet know what Cush means.
Pale people today are a mixture of man and a little animal dna.

Meaning of Cush;

Cush [N] [H] [S]
black.

A son, probably the eldest, of Ham, and the father of Nimrod ( Genesis 10:8 ; 1 Chronicles 1:10 ). From him the land of Cush seems to have derived its name. The question of the precise locality of the land of Cush has given rise to not a little controversy.

https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/cush/



So here you have it, Cush means black. While Adam and Edom shares more or less the same Hebrew root word.

https://www.ancient-hebrew.org/names/Adam.htm

OkCornel:


Meaning of Adam;

"Adam" is both the proper name of the first human and a designation for humankind. God himself gave this appellation to Adam and Eve ( Gen 5:1-2 ). The color red lies behind the Hebrew root adam [; 'a]. This may reflect the red soil from which he was made.

Adam was formed from the ground ( Gen 2:7 ). Word play between "Adam" and "ground" (adama [h'm'd}a]) is unmistakable. It is important that Adam is identified with humankind rather than any particular nationality. The country from which the dust was taken is not specified. Rabbis believed it came from all over the earth so no one could say, "My father is greater than yours."

https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/adam/

Oh my brother!!, this is how those kabala "Jews" have deceived the world. This so called Hebrew is actually Yiddish, it is not the language of the original iburus. Adam in the original iburu tongue means beginning of man. Check this out, in the iburu language, "Ada" means "beginning", "first"......"ham" means "man", "living", "descendant"......

This is also confirmed in the name Abraham.....in the original iburu language, it is actually iburu'ham. Iburu(you're increased), ham(man, descendant).

michaelkaroh:


Oh my brother!!, this is how those kabala "Jews" have deceived the world. This so called Hebrew is actually Yiddish, it is not the language of the original iburus. Adam in the original iburu tongue means beginning of man. Check this out, in the iburu language, "Ada" means "beginning", "first"......"ham" means "man", "living", "descendant"......

This is also confirmed in the name Abraham.....in the original iburu language, it is actually iburu'ham. Iburu(you're increased), ham(man, descendant).

Please bring sources and references to this "iburu" language you speak of.

OkCornel:


Please bring sources and references to this "iburu" language you speak of.

If by sources and references you mean the pale man's approval then I'm sorry, none exists. The source of every truth is from God.

I tell you this, the only people in the world speaking anything related to ancient iburu are the igbo people today and some other southern tribes.

michaelkaroh:


If by sources and references you mean the pale man's approval then I'm sorry, none exists. The source of every truth is from God.

I tell you this, the only people in the world speaking anything related to ancient iburu are the igbo people today and some other southern tribes.

Thanks for your time. There's no need discussing further.

Let the OP continue from where he stopped on this thread with respect to the topic of the thread.

OkCornel:


Thanks for your time. There's no need discussing further.

Let the OP continue from where he stopped on this thread with respect to the topic of the thread.

Ok.

EnthronedbyGod:
The mark is the sign of the interlocking pendant star, maybe I'll draw a sketch of it and send it to someone to post for me, cos I can't post pics.

This pendant is also worn by high ranking members of the church of Satan, some witches even wear it on their necks physically, they do it to show their allegiance to satan.

Also if you have someone who constantly sleeps with one of his/her legs placed on the wall, their is 95% possibility that such person is a witch.

Is that interlocking star not the same as the "Star of David" on the Israeli flag?

some of us are actually hear to learn please...


please stop derailing the threads with unnecessary arguments.

I believe somethings about God should not be debated rather if someone brings a contrary view on a subject, seek God yourself.


I know that there are important things the OP might have said that I skipped while trying to evade these unnecessary arguments.


please...


enthronedbyGrace please keep up the exposition as the Spirit of God Wills!


thank you

OkCornel:


Of course, I am just surprised that after his elusive rope a dope tactics on that thread, he still wants to ask for a debate.
Also see how he is trying to spin around Elijah's ascension to heaven in a Chariot of fire as "teleportation"

Anyways, I'm ready to move on, provided he stays off my mentions.

I mean, the genesis of the whole thing was me posting something from the book of Enoch that agreed with EnthronedbyGod's position on the origin of sorcery and witchcraft...

And here we are right now.

Pls let's move on.

OkCornel:
Mr. man , keep quiet.

Are you at all again alright today? Who you're you telling to keep quiet and using that tone with, hmm? Did someone stir craze, mix into breakfast for you to eat this morning ni? Is that why you're typing out of turn, erhn? Lack of self-control and undisciplined behavior. See me, see "arinfin" trouble...

OkCornel:
This was you asking for evidence where you mentioned you will blacklist me, and you accused me of MAKING UP THAT CLAIM

And after showing you this post from March 2018 where you actually did so, you are now yapping about telling me it was a temporary thing.
https://www.nairaland.com/4386878/discussion-yhwh-jewish-enki-epic/5#65717787

So where was I yapping in that link, or any other link for that matter. You resort to embellishment, ad hominems, throwing mudslings etcetera when you find out, you arent capable of holding your ground.

The post was from March 2018, and I only reverted back to make a mention of the OkCornel ID in Dec 2018. Over 9 months, thats a good run, of keeping to my word. You must have behaved very badly for me to, on my own accord, wanting and deciding to stay clear of you, and that I did for more than 9 months. I wish I had stuck to my guns and better judgement. I regret going back on my word and decision

OkCornel:
Oh, so it's not longer about me making up such claims? You are only trying to be elusive and slippery. Oya, type another long epistle with vocabularies and GIFs

I don't tolerate spin doctors, stay on your lane.

You side track the genuine discussion at hand, avoid it and instead be attacking the opposite side poster's character, bringing up what is not related nor relevant to what's currently discussed

OkCornel:
[s]Now I can see your elusive nature at play here.

Muttley, are you in support of homosexuality? Come out clean here and let everyone see why I called you a homosexual apologist.

Stop this hypocrisy and come out clean[/s].

[s]https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult/3#79097453[/s]

[s]This is one of your numerous posts on that thread arguing in favor of homosexuality. If you're not a homosexual apologist, then what else should I call you? A homosexual believer?[/s]

Bring your hide and seek games here and telling me to debate with you for what exactly?

Get off my mentions

You know what to do, if you really want MuttleyLaff stay off your mention. You are prolonging, derailing the thread because you've already being advised.

You have being personally advised by me how you can get me to stay off your mention. EnthronedbyGod, too equally has given you a wise thing to do, but of course, you would choose to ignore both our good and timely advices

OkCornel:
I can see you modified your initial post to include this bit.

Keep your chance to yourself. I have repeatedly mentioned this here, I see absolutely no point in arguing with you, especially after your disgusting evasive tactics on the homosexuality thread

What gave you the impression you were given a chance, if I had said you're a lost cause, hmm?

OkCornel:
And now you're spinning in your teleportation theory on Elijah when indeed the Bible clearly stated he ascended to Heaven, and Malachi clearly stating he will return before the dreadful day of the Lord - Malachi 4 v 5

"5Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful Day of the LORD.
⁶And he will turn the hearts of the fathers to their children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers. Otherwise, I will come and strike the land with a curse.”"
- Malachi 4:5-6

"¹²But I tell you that Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they pleased. So also the Son of Man will certainly suffer at their hands.
¹³Then the disciples understood that he was speaking to them of John the Baptist."
- Matthew 17:12

Any believer worth their salt and light knows that John the Baptist, is the Elijah promised in Malachi 4:5. John the Baptist is the one that came and he came in and with the spirit of Elijah. He acted in/with the spirit of Elijah, and so the more the reason he dressed like Elijah and had the ruggedness of Elijah. John the Baptist, is called Elijah, just as Jesus is called the new Adam, plus Jesus calling Mary, His mother and the alleged caught adulteress Woman. Just as Elijah called Israel to repent and return back to God, so John the Baptist called the Jews to repent and reconcile back with God

OkCornel:
I can't waste my time with spin doctors and evasive specialists.

Dont flatter yourself, thinking you are given the time or day

jesusjnr:
Please my bro, stop dignifying the fool with a response (especially on this thread), for he's not worth it.

jesusjnr, you think I am a fool, but you are a greater fool than I am. jesusjnr, you're a bigger fool, for getting involved in a matter that doesnt concerns you. It is an unintelligent fool, someone like you, who goes yanking sleeping yanga's leg, looking for yanga's trouble.

jesusjnr:
Trust me, I know what I'm talking about.
God bless.

The dreadful burden of having nothing worthwhile and meaningful to do, so made you become a tool and your idle hands, a workshop of the devil. You just couldnt resist the urge to come on here and make a fool of your self with your unintelligent, unwarranted, showing no intelligence nor sensitivity comment

Shepherd00:
Let homosexuality stay in homosexuality thread nah? Me I don tire sef.

"homosexual Satanist OkCornel says the children of Israel didn't need to copy circumcision from the Egyptians. He said that as he maintained his stance that Egypt practiced circumcision before God ordered Israel to do same.

Despite the children of Israel who lived in Egypt for 400 years and who didn't know their God nor his laws, he still believes they didn't follow the culture of the Egyptians. Moses did.

I don't blame the homosexual Satanist"
- Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by LifestyleTonite: 5:30pm On Jun 18

With this guy obsession of repeatedly trying to introduce and drag homosexuality talk to this thread, I am beginning to wonder what LifestyleTonite saw and notice to be calling him a homosexual. Sure, he is a cold dead hypocrite but could it be, he's a closet, like Ted Haggard was. Does LifestyleTonite know something about him, that everyone else dont seem to know, hmm?

OkCornel:
Of course, I am just surprised that after his elusive rope a dope tactics on that thread, he still wants to ask for a debate.

If you were confident, you would have jumped at the opportunity to shine, but of course, you know you have limits, so cowered, lost the bottle and will, to discuss the truthfulness of the Book(s) of Enoch.

OkCornel:
Also see how he is trying to spin around Elijah's ascension to heaven in a Chariot of fire as "teleportation"

You're less than a learner. You've shown yourself up with your beliefs in bullshits, fantasy and slanderous trash talk.

OkCornel:
Anyways, I'm ready to move on, provided he stays off my mentions.

Practice what you preach. Stop my mentions, stop responding to posts that mentions MuttleLaff and affairs related to MuttleyLaff, and I'll stay off your mention. If you fail to do, I promise to come after you and accordingly

OkCornel:
I mean, the genesis of the whole thing was me posting something from the book of Enoch that agreed with EnthronedbyGod's position on the origin of sorcery and witchcraft...

And here we are right now.

Stick to the genesis, leave out unrelated and irrelevant homosexual topics and whatnot.

tomtween1:
some of us are actually hear to learn please...

please stop derailing the threads with unnecessary arguments.

I believe somethings about God should not be debated rather if someone brings a contrary view on a subject, seek God yourself.

I know that there are important things the OP might have said that I skipped while trying to evade these unnecessary arguments.

please...

enthronedbyGrace please keep up the exposition as the Spirit of God Wills!

thank you

You better call your man to a corner and tell him not to introduce topics that has no relation nor connectivity to whats originally discussed or shared on this thread. Tell him to stop being to stop being malicious, to stop his muckraking and mud-slinging

MuttleyLaff:
You think I am a fool, but you are a greater fool than I am. You're a bigger fool, for getting involved in a matter that doesnt concerns you. It is an unintelligent fool, someone like you, who goes yanking sleeping yanga's leg, looking for yanga's trouble.

When I call you an overgrown kid, you'll cry I'm calling you names.

Check this thread and see if you were not the one who mentioned me first. You have no iota of shame at all.
https://www.nairaland.com/5252047/cultism-spiritual-consequences-deliverance-through/52#81419559

MuttleyLaff:

The dreadful burden of having nothing worthwhile and meaningful to do, so made you become a tool and your idle hands, a workshop of the devil. You just couldnt resist the urge to come on here and make a fool of your self with your unintelligent, unwarranted, showing no intelligence nor sensitivity comment

"homosexual Satanist OkCornel says the children of Israel didn't need to copy circumcision from the Egyptians. He said that as he maintained his stance that Egypt practiced circumcision before God ordered Israel to do same.

Despite the children of Israel who lived in Egypt for 400 years and who didn't know their God nor his laws, he still believes they didn't follow the culture of the Egyptians. Moses did.

I don't blame the homosexual Satanist"

- Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by LifestyleTonite: 5:30pm On Jun 18

With this guy obsession of repeatedly trying to introduce and drag homosexuality talk to this thread, I am beginning to wonder what LifestyleTonite saw and notice to be calling him a homosexual. Sure, he is a cold dead hypocrite but could it be, he's a closet, like Ted Haggard was. Does LifestyleTonite know something about him, that everyone else dont seem to know, hmm?

If you were confident, you would have jumped at the opportunity to shine, but of course, you know you have limits, so cowered, lost the bottle and will, to discuss the truthfulness of the Book(s) of Enoch.

You're less than a learner. You've shown yourself up with your beliefs in bullshits, fantasy and slanderous trash talk.

Practice what you preach. Stop my mentions, stop responding to posts that mentions MuttleLaff and affairs related to MuttleyLaff, and I'll stay off your mention. If you fail to do, I promise to come after you and accordingly

Stick to the genesis, leave out unrelated and irrelevant homosexual topics and whatnot.

You better call your man to a corner and tell him not to introduce topics that has no relation nor connectivity to whats originally discussed or shared on this thread. Tell him to stop being to stop being malicious, to stop his muckraking and mud-slinging

I will make it very clear for you since you are desperately elusive. You said you are not a homosexual apologist right?


DO YOU BELIEVE GOD HAS NOTHING AGAINST HOMOSEXUALITY? Come out clean and let everyone know why I called you a homosexual apologist in the first place. Dodge this question with your next long empty epistles.


After your nonsense elusive tactics on the homosexuality thread, you still think you have any dignity whatsoever to engage me in a debate?

Get off my mentions.

MuttleyLaff:
Are you at all again alright today? Who you're you telling to keep quiet and using that tone with, hmm? Did someone stir craze, mix into breakfast for you to eat this morning ni? Is that why you're typing out of turn, erhn? Lack of self-control and undisciplined behavior. See me, see "arinfin" trouble...

So where was I yapping in that link, or any other link for that matter. You resort to embellishment, ad hominems, throwing mudslings etcetera when you find out, you arent capable of holding your ground.

The post was from March 2018, and I only reverted back to make a mention of the OkCornel ID in Dec 2018. Over 9 months, thats a good run, of keeping to my word. You must have behaved very badly for me to, on my own accord, wanting and deciding to stay clear of you, and that I did for more than 9 months. I wish I had stuck to my guns and better judgement. I regret going back on my word and decision

You side track the genuine discussion at hand, avoid it and instead be attacking the opposite side poster's character, bringing up what is not related nor relevant to what's currently discussed

You know what to do, if you really want MuttleyLaff stay off your mention. You are prolonging, derailing the thread because you've already being advised.

You have being personally advised by me how you can get me to stay off your mention. EnthronedbyGod, too equally has given you a wise thing to do, but of course, you would choose to ignore both our good and timely advices

What gave you the impression you were given a chance, if I had said you're a lost cause, hmm?

"5Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful Day of the LORD.
⁶And he will turn the hearts of the fathers to their children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers. Otherwise, I will come and strike the land with a curse.”"
- Malachi 4:5-6

"¹²But I tell you that Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they pleased. So also the Son of Man will certainly suffer at their hands.
¹³Then the disciples understood that he was speaking to them of John the Baptist."
- Matthew 17:12

Any believer worth their salt and light knows that John the Baptist, is the Elijah promised in Malachi 4:5. John the Baptist is the one that came and he came in and with the spirit of Elijah. He acted in/with the spirit of Elijah, and so the more the reason he dressed like Elijah and had the ruggedness of Elijah. John the Baptist, is called Elijah, just as Jesus is called the new Adam, plus Jesus calling Mary, His mother and the alleged caught adulteress Woman. Just as Elijah called Israel to repent and return back to God, so John the Baptist called the Jews to repent and reconcile back with God

Dont flatter yourself, thinking you are given the time or day

Any believer worth their salt and light knows John the Baptist is the Elijah promised in Malachi abi?

You mean the same John the Baptist that clearly said he's not Elijah?

John 1:19-21 King James Version (KJV)
19 And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou?
20 And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ.
21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.

Keep on spinning the scriptures Muttley. Well done...

Go and research on who the two witnesses per the book of Revelation (Chapter 11) and how it fits alongside Malachi 4 v 5 prophecy on Elijah coming before the dreadful day of the Lord. Early Christian writers like Ireneaus and Tertullian have written quite well on this subject matter.

Elijah ascended into Heaven in a flaming chariot as recorded in the book of Kings. Stop spinning it around.


You started this whole thing by butting your nose into my discussions with EnthronedbyGod on the origins of witchcraft/sorcery when I brought up the book of Enoch to corroborate what he said earlier.

And now, I am telling you get off my mentions. I have repeated this countlessly. You might just be proving Jesusjnr right after all.

OkCornel:
Any believer worth their salt and light knows John the Baptist is the Elijah promised in Malachi abi?

You mean the same John the Baptist that clearly said he's not Elijah?

Yes I do mean the same John the Baptist that clearly said he's not Elijah

OkCornel:
John 1:19-21 King James Version (KJV)
19 And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou?
20 And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ.
21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.

Of course, he isnt Elijah in the body or flesh. Jesus never preached nor taught reincarnation. The Bible never talks about people being reincarnated following death on earth. John the Baptist was confirming he isnt Elijah in the flesh, being a modest man, he stopped short of confirming he is Elijah in the spirit. He is not Elijah, he isnt that prophet, like he said in John 1:21.

I know what angle about all this, you next are going to come from. Let me wait so you'll prove me right

OkCornel:
Keep on spinning the scriptures Muttley. Well done...

I am not spinning the scripture. I dont have any need to spin the scripture. I dont have anything to gain spinning the scripture. You dont know warris going on, that's the problem

MuttleyLaff:
Yes I do mean the same John the Baptist that clearly said he's not Elijah

Of course, he isnt Elijah in the body or flesh. Jesus never preached nor taught reincarnation. The Bible never talks about people being reincarnated following death on earth. John the Baptist was confirming he isnt Elijah in the flesh, being a modest man, he stopped short of confirming he is Elijah in the spirit. He is not Elijah, he isnt that prophet, like he said in John 1:21.

I know what angle about all this, you next are going to come from. Let me wait so you'll prove me right

I am not spinning the scripture. I dont have any need to spin the scripture. I dont have anything to gain spinning the scripture. You dont know warris going on, that's the problem

Please do a comprehensive study of the two witnesses.

Read what early Christian writers (Irenaeus & Tertullian) wrote about them. Put that alongside Malachi's prophecy on Elijah returning before the dreadful day of the Lord.

Unless you want to tell us the dreadful day of the Lord has come and gone.

Oh, and also please Elijah ascended to Heaven in a flaming chariot as recorded in Kings. There is no disputing that.

OkCornel:
You started this whole thing by butting your nose into my discussions with EnthronedbyGod on the origins of witchcraft/sorcery when I brought up the book of Enoch to corroborate what he said earlier.

Yes I did and so lets keep discussion confine to that and cultism discussions

OkCornel:
And now, I am telling you get off my mentions. I have repeated this countlessly

I have advised you on how this can come true, equally, EnthronedbyGod too has given you advice, but you choose to ignore both

OkCornel:
You might just be proving Jesusjnr right after all.

I am please to admit that jesusjnr and EnthronedbyGod are right about me, but they both a greater fools than I am

MuttleyLaff:
Yes I did and so lets keep discussion confine to that and cultism discussions

I have advised you on how this can come true, equally, EnthronedbyGod too has given you advice, but you choose to ignore both

I am please to admit that jesusjnr and EnthronedbyGod are right about me, but they both a greater fools than I am

Cool, then let's confine our discussions to the topic on this thread. Thank you!

My first mention on the book of Enoch on this thread was about that, before all of this happened.

OkCornel:
Please do a comprehensive study of the two witnesses.

Read what early Christian writers (Irenaeus & Tertullian) wrote about them. Put that alongside Malachi's prophecy on Elijah returning before the dreadful day of the Lord.

Unless you want to tell us the dreadful day of the Lord has come and gone.

Go find out what happened to the temple and Jerusalem in A.D. 70, hmm?

OkCornel:
Oh, and also please Elijah ascended to Heaven in a flaming chariot as recorded in Kings. There is no disputing that.

Do you want to review this comment erhn? Do you want to give it a good thoroughly and careful rethink, just to make sure you got your facts right here erhn, because I deeply am sorry to burst your bubble and belief that Elijah ever ascended anywhere in a chariot, talkless in a fantansy flaming chariot you mistakenly believed is written in the bible.

I years ago, I've dealt with this topic, I made my researches, only to find out the wrong teachings and/or misconceptions passed down to us

I am not going to spoon feed, so quietly go and re-read 2 Kings 2:11 and return back to edit your comment to correct it. Ask me questions, if need be, to get the whole thing in perspective.

OkCornel:
Cool, then let's confine our discussions to the topic on this thread. Thank you!

My first mention on the book of Enoch on this thread was about that, before all of this happened.

OkCornel, I've said my piece about the Book of Enoch. I have provided samples of its ridiculousness.

On top I have given the blessing for any to go ahead, enjoy reading the Book(s) of Enoch. I am a simple, fair and firm person, it was no personal attack on you, it was more of a moral duty on my part, not to keep silent on the questionable genuineness of the book(s). The first century one is lost, but the other three are reverse engineering works.

I have nothing, I am willing to say again about the book here.

MuttleyLaff:
Go find out what happened to the temple and Jerusalem in A.D. 70, hmm?

If according to you, the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70 is dreadful day of the Lord.

Read up Joel 2:31 and Acts 2:20;
The sun turned to sackcloth and the moon turned into blood right? Oh yeah...

MuttleyLaff:

Do you want to review this comment erhn? Do you want to give it a good thoroughly and careful rethink, just to make sure you got your facts right here erhn, because I deeply am sorry to burst your bubble and belief that Elijah ever ascended anywhere in a chariot, talkless in a fantansy flaming chariot you mistakenly believed is written in the bible.

I years ago, I've dealt with this topic, I made my researches, only to find out the wrong teachings and/or misconceptions passed down to us

I am not going to spoon feed, so quietly go and re-read 2 Kings 2:11 and return back to edit your comment to correct it. Ask me questions, if need be, to get the whole thing in perspective.

2 Kings 2 v 11;

11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

Muttley, did Elijah ascend to heaven or not? Do you still want to spin it around to mean something else?

MuttleyLaff:
OkCornel, I've said my piece about the Book of Enoch. I have provided samples of its ridiculousness.

On top I have given the blessing for any to go ahead, enjoy reading the Book(s) of Enoch. I am a simple, fair and firm person, it was no personal attack on you, it was more of a moral duty on my part, not to keep silent on the questionable genuineness of the book(s). The first century one is lost, but the other three are reverse engineering works.

I have nothing, I am willing to say again about the book here.

Thank you, please save your views on the book of Enoch for the Ethiopian Church as well. They'll be glad to hear you out.

OkCornel:
Thank you, please save your views on the book of Enoch for the Ethiopian Church as well. They'll be glad to hear you out.

I am biting my tongue and swallowing what I want to say about that damned Ethiopian version of the Book of Enoch. I hope the Ethiopian Church have a very good lawyer, because they will have a lot explaining to do when faced with the Judge.

OkCornel:
If according to you, the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70 is dreadful day of the Lord.

Read up Joel 2:31 and Acts 2:20;
The sun turned to sackcloth and the moon turned into blood right? Oh yeah...

So you've abandoned Malachi 4:5, and gone proof-text hunting now, erhn?

Joel 2:31 and Acts 2:20 have nothing to do with Malachi 4:5, and you honestly know that. Haba. Wetin nau.

OkCornel:
2 Kings 2 v 11;
11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

Muttley, did Elijah ascend to heaven or not? Do you still want to spin it around to mean something else?

OKcornel what was the chariot of fire doing, hmm?

Well contrary to your assertion and belief of an :''the ascension of Elijah on the chariots of fire'', that assertion and belief is wrong, because Elijah DID NOT GO on any chariots of fire. The chariots of fire drawn by horses of fire, actually only came between him and Elisha,
(i.e. the chariots of fire drawn by horses of fire served ONLY, as a demarcation between Elijah and Elisha).

As a matter of fact, Elijah was translated in a whirlwind, or in a tornado if you like, and not with or by any chariot. Read the verse properly and well nah. You go school nah, you attended college, didnt you, you're literate, you sabi read and know book nah, so read am correct and correctly.

michaelkaroh:


If by sources and references you mean the pale man's approval then I'm sorry, none exists. The source of every truth is from God.

I tell you this, the only people in the world speaking anything related to ancient iburu are the igbo people today and some other southern tribes.

I knew we wld get here. Jesus Christ was from Enugu.

MuttleyLaff:
Yes I do mean the same John the Baptist that clearly said he's not Elijah

Of course, he isnt Elijah in the body or flesh. Jesus never preached nor taught reincarnation. The Bible never talks about people being reincarnated following death on earth. John the Baptist was confirming he isnt Elijah in the flesh, being a modest man, he stopped short of confirming he is Elijah in the spirit. He is not Elijah, he isnt that prophet, like he said in John 1:21.

I know what angle about all this, you next are going to come from. Let me wait so you'll prove me right

I am not spinning the scripture. I dont have any need to spin the scripture. I dont have anything to gain spinning the scripture. You dont know warris going on, that's the problem

I don beg Cornel, him no gree, make I beg you. Pls stop responding to him. Abeg.

MuttleyLaff:
I am biting my tongue and swallowing what I want to say about that damned Ethiopian version of the Book of Enoch. I hope the Ethiopian Church have a very good lawyer, because they will have a lot explaining to do when faced with the Judge.

Yup, I'll also need a good lawyer to explain Songs of Solomon as well. Never mind though, since it's in the bible...that Romeo and Juliet story can pass for the word of God as well...

This is me baring my mind here

Shepherd00:

I don beg Cornel, him no gree, make I beg you. Pls stop responding to him. Abeg.

The conversation is steering towards the end, that's if we're not done already sef...

No worries.

OkCornel:
Yup, I'll also need a good lawyer to explain Songs of Solomon as well. Never mind though, since it's in the bible...that Romeo and Juliet story can pass for the word of God as well...

This is me baring my mind here

There is nothing untoward about the Songs of Solomon. If you know, you know. Who no know, no go know the koko about the Songs of Solomon.