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Iblad0994:
Bro you are missing the fact together here. Stop trying to make it seems like we need validation from the North before we can pronounce ourselves Muslim in the SW. Was the Quran given to the North? Is Mohammed from the North? Is Mecca in the North?

I'm even tired of explaining. The Yorubas do not care whether the North accept us as true Muslim or not.

If blowing up churches and mosques, killing other religious folks, and toxicity towards other faith is what you mean by real Muslim with regards to some part of the north, then sorry is your case.

The Igbos are so afraid of the Fulani -Hausa that they believe subconsciously that every tolerant Muslim is some kind of fake Muslim, they wouldn't admit this fact.

Yorubas don't need validation from Hausas or Fulani to practice whatever religion they choose to practice, our culture is different, our outlook towards life is different and so also is our temperament, the fact that the core northerners are violent doesn't mean that Yorubas can't live in peace with one another despite having a substantial number of Muslims.

myobjective:
I keep telling people that the core north and the SE/SS are very similar in their extreme view towards religion, they are both religious extremist hat lack tolerance for other people faith. The only difference between these two groups is that Islam is more of a political ideology that can make uneducated people do stupid things, Christianity, on the other hand, focus much on the worldly things.

These two groups are very extreme and normally take actions without reasoning, an average Yoruba Muslim is more educated, more tolerant and has more diversity in family and among friends that is the difference between us Yoruba and the core northerner. Some progressive, educated core northerners are even more tolerant than an Igbos.

In this age and time, it baffles me that people are still arguing about which state is a Christian or Muslim state when we have a myriad of problem ranging from poverty, illiteracy, unemployment etc.

Who be dis headslamming double faced munafiqum ?

myobjective:
I keep telling people that the core north and the SE/SS are very similar in their extreme view towards religion, they are both religious extremist hat lack tolerance for other people faith. The only difference between these two groups is that Islam is more of a political ideology that can make uneducated people do stupid things, Christianity, on the other hand, focus much on the worldly things.

These two groups are very extreme and normally take actions without reasoning, an average Yoruba Muslim is more educated, more tolerant and has more diversity in family and among friends that is the difference between us Yoruba and the core northerner. Some progressive, educated core northerners are even more tolerant than an Igbos.

In this age and time, it baffles me that people are still arguing about which state is a Christian or Muslim state when we have a myriad of problem ranging from poverty, illiteracy, unemployment etc.

God will bless you for the bolded.

During the Sallah celebration, the handler of BBC Igbo Facebook page greeted the Muslims for Sallah day, if you see the insult and curse the Igbos on that page propagate, you will feel sorry for how toxic they hate people with other faith even with few Muslims among them.

The core northerners on the other hand don’t like Christianity, infact those ones even resort to killing other people coz of religion differences. Both SE and Core North are same same and the difference is that the Igbos have not started taking up arm against the other faiths.

The Yoruba formular is simple, Yoruba first is the major doctrine. No matter where we go, we always uphold that Yoruba culture of omoluabi and that reflects in our religious practices.

Culture is a living thing, and most times how people practice religion is a reflection of their culture. If people culture is toxic their religion will be toxic, if people culture is calm, their religion will be calm.

It’s common sense!

TooMuchStuff:
Who be dis head slamming double faced munafiqum?

I am a proud Yoruba man, I am human first before any Abrahamic religion I may choose to follow, I respect the right of others to practice their faith as long as it doesn't interfere with my fundamental human rights.

Religious bigotry will not take you, people, anywhere

TooMuchStuff:
The peace of the house is always guaranteed until the Omo ale is grown up as a man.
Yoruba Muslims are actually minority for now. Wait for the next 10 yrs from now to witness yoruba Muslims Jihadists like the barbaric core north. It's Islam

Who told you that?
I am from a local government with a majority Muslim population, in fact, growing up, we hardly see any Christian around but my grandmother whose parents were originally from Ekiti state do celebrate Christmas because despite being a practising Muslim, her parent died as Christians. We are tolerant, we are Yoruba first before any religion, we will never hate our brother because of the religion they choose to practice.

Islam has been with yoruba before Christianity. We are Yoruba and we believe in our culture first before religion.

Your religious tolerance confusion led to the sacking of the old capital of the Oyo Empire, loss of Ilorin to Sokoto, invasion of all Yoruba land, occupation of Osogbo and jihadist raids all over the empire.

All subtle jihadist expansionism in present day into Yoruba land by Sokoto is being done with the full support of Yoruba Muslims who act as both enablers to Sokoto jihadism not only in your region but the entire south and Christian middle belt.

The Yoruba Muslims here are the number 1 Fulani apologists and are the ones who are quick to defend and absolve the Fulanis from criminal activity while deflecting to other people or groups.

myobjective:
I keep telling people that the core north and the SE/SS are very similar in their extreme view towards religion, they are both religious extremist that lack tolerance for other people's faith. The only difference between these two groups is that Islam is more of a political ideology that can make uneducated people do stupid things, Christianity, on the other hand, focus much on the worldly things.

These two groups are very extreme and normally take actions without reasoning, an average Yoruba Muslim is more educated, more tolerant and has more diversity in family and among friends that is the difference between us Yoruba and the core northerner. Some progressive, educated core northerners are even more tolerant than an Igbos.

In this age and time, it baffles me that people are still arguing about which state is a Christian or Muslim state when we have a myriad of problem ranging from poverty, illiteracy, unemployment etc.

myobjective:
The Igbos are so afraid of the Fulani -Hausa that they believe subconsciously that every tolerant Muslim is some kind of fake Muslim, they wouldn't admit this fact.

Yorubas don't need validation from Hausas or Fulani to practice whatever religion they choose to practice, our culture is different, our outlook towards life is different and so also is our temperament, the fact that the core northerners are violent doesn't mean that Yorubas can live in peace with one another despite having a substantial number of Muslims.

I keep saying that there is no such thing as Islamaphobia.

A phobia describes an irrational fear.

From the bloody history of Islam and Muslims, one can not be accused of holding a cautionary approach when dealing with Muslims.

The two terrorist groups terrorising the country today have Islamic expansionism as their paramount agenda.

To me there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim.

The Koran makes it very clear who a "good Muslim" is and BH and Fulani herdsmen are in tandem with those ideals.

The only difference between a so called moderate Muslim and am extremist is that while one wants to behead you, the other is hoping the other will do just that.

myobjective:
I am a proud Yoruba man, I am human first before any Abrahamic religion I may choose to follow, I respect the right of others to practice their faith as long as it doesn't interfere with my fundamental human rights.

Religious bigotry will not take you, people, anywhere

Mr Humanist, you didn't raise a whimper over the inclusion of Sharia law in the constitution and adoption of parallel Sharia law in northern states.
You have never ever raised your humanity banner to condemn the killings and subjugation of non Muslims living in the Islamic north.

Your humanity cloak was only dorned when Wike demolished a mosque for not complying with planning regulations.

I see you.

Iblad0994, Myobjective can you pls clarify the following :
1. Is Saudi Arabia the model state for all Muslims

2. Does Saudi Arabia tolerate the practice of any other religion apart from Islam

3. Does Saudi Arabia allow for the building of Churches

4. Are Christian paraphernalia including the Bible and Cross not banned from being imported into Saudi Arabia

5. What is the penalty for apostasy in Saudi Arabia

6. What is the penalty for Christian evangelism

7. Are Christian holidays and celebrations allowed in Saudi Arabia

Your answer will determine if you are true Muslims.

Seetto:
Rivers state is neither an Hausa state nor Yoruba state, I believe majority of people in the mosque are people from different ethnic background, English is the only way they can pass information, why must we allowed our self to be used by this wicked politician to continue to use religion to divide us, why they and their immediate family enjoys our common wealth, who religion help.....

The mosques are inhabited by Yoruba and Hausa-Fulani. River is a Christian state

APCHaram:
What has your useless Sultan and Emirs done to better their poverty diseased illiterate vagrants in the north?

Rivers is Christian!

perfect reply

APCHaram:
Iblad0994, Myobjective can you pls clarify the following :
1. Is Saudi Arabia the model state for all Muslims

2. Does Saudi Arabia tolerate the practice of any other religion apart from Islam

3. Does Saudi Arabia allow for the building of Churches

4. Are Christian paraphernalia including the Bible and Cross not banned from being imported into Saudi Arabia

5. What is the penalty for apostasy in Saudi Arabia

6. What is the penalty for Christian evangelism

7. Are Christian holidays and celebrations allowed in Saudi Arabia

Your answer will determine if you are true Muslims.

most Muslims are hypocrites

kotv:
The mosques are inhabited by Yoruba and Hausa-Fulani. River is a Christian state

Okay, it is good to hear that...

myobjective:
Who told you that?
I am from a local government with a majority Muslim population, in fact, growing up, we hardly see any Christian around but my grandmother whose parents were originally from Ekiti state do celebrate Christmas because despite being a practising Muslim, her parent died as Christians. We are tolerant, we are Yoruba first before any religion, we will never hate our brother because of the religion they choose to practice.

Islam has been with yoruba before Christianity. We are Yoruba and we believe in our culture first before religion.

islamic violent jihad in yoruba land is coming soon. Some yoruba Muslims are collecting money from Saudi to further islamic expansion in Yoruba land. Ask Akintola of MURIC.

It seems you did not get the mentions

Let me repeat the post again

APCHaram:
Iblad0994, Myobjective can you pls clarify the following :
1. Is Saudi Arabia the model state for all Muslims

2. Does Saudi Arabia tolerate the practice of any other religion apart from Islam

3. Does Saudi Arabia allow for the building of Churches

4. Are Christian paraphernalia including the Bible and Cross not banned from being imported into Saudi Arabia

5. What is the penalty for apostasy in Saudi Arabia

6. What is the penalty for Christian evangelism

7. Are Christian holidays and celebrations allowed in Saudi Arabia

Your answer will determine if you are true Muslims.

capitalzero:
islamic violent jihad in yoruba land is coming soon. Some yoruba Muslims are collecting money from Saudi to further islamic expansion in Yoruba land. Ask Akintola of MURIC.

Islamic jihad by Yoruba Muslims in alliance with Fulani mercenaries from Sokoto led to the loss of Ilorin, the sacking and pillaging of the capital of old Oyo Empire, the conquest and occupation of Osogbo, the refugee crisis that led to the formation of Ibadan (a then small town) to the biggest IDP camp hosting fleeing Yorubas from across the empire.

No be today.

APCHaram:
It seems you did not get the mentions

Let me repeat the post again

First of all I’m in a different time zone so I’m just waking up.

Saudi Arabia is s model state for Muslims because of the Kabbah and the fact that Mohammed (SAW) is from Saudi but the real model for Islam is the Quran.

Saudi politics has to do with monarchy system and it’s more of culture than the doctrine of the Quran. You will as well know that we have other muslim country like Qatar, UAE, Kuwait, Oman, e.t.c. that are religious tolerant to some extent and it was even in the news when some Christians went on an open evangelism in Dubai.

I will repeat again, Saudi government is currently being condemned to some extent by some Muslims due to their activities in the imbalance in the Arab nation and their action in Syria

You need to separate Islam from government policies which most time changes. Before the Saudi women can’t drive but now Bin Salman made the law for them to drive will you call that Islam or Govt policy?

What I follow is the Quran, and the ties the Muslims had to Saudi is the Kabbah and the fact that our prophet was born there.

Like I said, it’s more of an absolute monarchy system in Saudi, and the government policies about human right and tolerance for Christianity may change, coz we’ve see Bin Salman made some changes.

Separate Religion from state, Islam shouldn’t be about killing or intolerance for other faith before you term it Real Islam according to you. That’s absurd!

Now a question, How many mosque do we have in the Vatican?

Since there is no mosque in the Vatican can we conclude the Christians are fanatics as well just like you said if the Muslims based on Saudi?

APCHaram:
Your religious tolerance confusion led to the sacking of the old capital of the Oyo Empire, loss of Ilorin to Sokoto, invasion of all Yoruba land, occupation of Osogbo and jihadist raids all over the empire.

All subtle jihadist expansionism in present day into Yoruba land by Sokoto is being done with the full support of Yoruba Muslims who act as both enablers to Sokoto jihadism not only in your region but the entire south and Christian middle belt.

The Yoruba Muslims here are the number 1 Fulani apologists and are the ones who are quick to defend and absolve the Fulanis from criminal activity while deflecting to other people or groups.

I am not a Fulani apologist, you can view all my comment here, I have live around them and I know that religion to them is a means to an end, it is a political ideology that they use to garner sympathy for political domination.

We Yorubas view politics from the prism of ethnicity, we value our shared culture my than anything, we see Nigeria as a conglomerate of nations with different nations that have nothing in common, we are Yoruba first before any religion we may follow.

The so-called Sultan of Sokoto doesn't have any real power even over northern Muslim, his position is more ceremonial than anything, it is only on this page we see Igbo biggie him up due they're seated inferior complex.
Yorubas don't follow the core north for religious guardians, even in the north, we have our own mosque, our own community and act differently.

Fulani jihadist expansion is only a filament of your own imagination. if the Fulanis have not successfully Islamized northwestern states like kebbi, Katsina or Kaduna and northeastern states like Borno, Adamawa, Taraba, Bauchi, Gombe etc. All these states with a substantial large Christian population. Is it in faraway southwestern Nigeria where they have close to zero political clouts they will now islamize?

APCHaram:
Iblad0994, Myobjective can you pls clarify the following :
1. Is Saudi Arabia the model state for all Muslims

2. Does Saudi Arabia tolerate the practice of any other religion apart from Islam

3. Does Saudi Arabia allow for the building of Churches

4. Are Christian paraphernalia including the Bible and Cross not banned from being imported into Saudi Arabia

5. What is the penalty for apostasy in Saudi Arabia

6. What is the penalty for Christian evangelism

7. Are Christian holidays and celebrations allowed in Saudi Arabia

Your answer will determine if you are true Muslims.

To begin with, Islam and Christianity are both monotheistic religion, rooted in the same region, this two religion started as an offshoot of Judaism and their doctrine reflects the prevalent economic and political reality of the time.

Saudi Arabia is a middle eastern nation that wants to practise Islam the way it was practised in the 6th century, where there was no human right or modern concept of right and wrong, it is their nation and they can choose to live whichever way they wish. If countries like Turkey the custodian of the last great Islamic empire can decide to go secular due to the need for modernity, I don't think we Africans that just took upon the religion can't be a secular with our belief.

Religiosity increase with an increased level of poverty illiteracy and underdeveloped, reasons why most states in Africa, middle east and south America are more religious than developed Western European, North America and Japan and South Korea. With development, many aspects of the faith will be left behind.

Finally, I don't need you to validate if I am a true Muslim or fake Muslim.

APCHaram:
Although Muslims are encouraged to marry/abduct Christian women/girls they are forbidden to give out their own women in marriage to non Muslims

This is one of several reasons the north does not count you as real muslims

though your claim is true according to what alquran teaches, but I can tell you categorically that in Yoruba land, no hindrance to inter religious marriage.

isaacsegun:
though your claim is true according to what alquran teaches, but I can tell you categorically that in Yoruba land, no hindrance to inter religious marriage.

That's why northern Muslims see you as fake Muslims

Islamic doctrine when applied in full is exactly what BH believes in.

You can not claim to be Muslims

myobjective:
Finally, I don't need you to validate if I am a true Muslim or fake Muslim.

I think you should direct your complaints to your fellow Muslims up north and not me.

APCHaram:
That's why northern Muslims see you as fake Muslims
Islamic doctrine when applied in full is exactly what BH believes in.
You can not claim to be Muslims

because we refuse to kill ourselves?

I hope you check my Monika?

isaacsegun:
because we refuse to kill ourselves?


I hope you check my Monika?

I don't know you.

I only know you as a muslim.

If I tell you what I have lost to Muslim madness, you won't blame me for killing the next Muslim I see.

Rivers is Christian, Christianity is Rivers. the fools should deal with it

APCHaram:
I don't know you.

I only know you as a muslim.

If I tell you what I have lost to Muslim madness, you won't blame me for killing the next Muslim I see.

I think I lost more than u. My whole house with all were burnt in Kaduna by allahu arka bomb chanting Psychos in 2000.

TooMuchStuff:
It's just a simple question to u. Ondo got the nod by GEJ but Tinubu felt it should not be in Ondo despite the crude feeds are all in Ondo fields. Why...?

Are you saying Lagos is a Muslim state? Cos I don’t understand your foolish question.

APCHaram:
Although Muslims are encouraged to marry/abduct Christian women/girls they are forbidden to give out their own women in marriage to non Muslims

This is one of several reasons the north does not count you as real muslims

You sound dumber each time you type. Does Islam belong to the north? If north see sw Muslims as fake the sw Muslims also see them as fake. Go to ilorin and see that the northerners even come to learn Islamic principles from the Yoruba.

TooMuchStuff:
The peace of the house is always guaranteed until the Omo ale is grown up as a man.
Yoruba Muslims are actually minority for now. Wait for the next 10 yrs from now to witness yoruba Muslims Jihadists like the barbaric core north. It's Islam

Another foolish comment from a deranged lowlife. Yoruba Muslims are minorities? Oyo state just elected a Christian at the expense of a Muslim. Take your religious bigotry elsewhere.

APCHaram:
See you.

Using the bare thread opportunity to paint Igbos as violent religious fanatics.

When have you heard of any Christian mob burning down mosques and killing Muslims in the Better South over some trivial religious misunderstanding?

Have you even heard of Christians going on rampage over a political issue and turning it into a religious or sectarian problem?

You Yoruba Muslims are snakes.

The fact is there is an awakening of the Christian population in the Better South on the Northern Islamic threat and that we are wise to know it isn't just a northern Muslim jihad as the north has the help of taqiyya agents like you Yoruba Muslims.

I created the Yoruba Muslim meme. It wasn't just for laffs but was well researched from history and contemporary events.

A typical Muslim is like a jew whose allegiance to his or her nation state or people is lost forever but is only towards global Islamic domination.

Bishopmagic you are losing it. I hope you have relatives around that can take you to a rehab because your mental sickness is worsening.

The ipobs are not even supporting you for bringing in the Jews who they worship.