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Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by LIIU: 10:54am On Aug 29, 2019
TooMuchStuff:
If na be the Prince na to deport them same day straight to their headslamming conclave where they emerged from. Nonsense and Allah.
Dem no even fine sef. No big nyansh. Yeye terrorists!!



you must not show how foolish you are all the time
sometimes you reserve it
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by Nobody: 10:56am On Aug 29, 2019
Yusuf54:
Honestly speaking, You are not making any sense..Dont start what You cant finish
what is it he is starting that he can't finish? grin you have not made any sense.


what? are you going to suicide bomb him? for making his opinions? sad
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by Nobody: 10:56am On Aug 29, 2019
pressmanng:
Norwegian prince, Prince Haakon visited Al-noor Islamic Center in the contry to show support for the 10 August Shooting Attack. During his visit he tried to shake hand with 3 muslim women but they didn't accept tge handshake.

RoyalCentral Reports about the incident.

His Royal Highness Crown Prince Haakon visited the Al-Noor Islamic Centre last week to show support after the 10 August shooting attack on the mosque. Many people noticed that three women did not accept the Crown Prince’s outstretched hand as he attempted to greet them.

The Bærum mosque shooting, or the Al-Noor Islamic Centre shooting, was an attack that occurred on 10 August 2019 at the Al-Noor Islamic Centre mosque in Bærum, Norway, about 20 km west of the capital city of Oslo.

One person was injured, and the gunman’s stepsister was later found dead in their family home. The shooter was taken into police custody after being subdued by mosque-goers. The shooting has been described as one attack in a recent “resurgence of white supremacy”.

Waheed Ahmed, information officer at the Al-Noor mosque, told NRK that they were unaware that the women did not want to shake the hand of the Crown Prince. He has now issued an official apology to the Norwegian Crown Prince. He wrote to Norwegian state tv NRK: “We did not want the Crown Prince to end up in that situation, but we did not know that the three women would not handshake. We, therefore, apologise to the Crown Prince that this happened.”

Waheed Ahmed, information officer at the Al-Noor mosque, also says that the management of the mosque visit was discussed in a meeting with the staff of the Royal Court the day before the visit, and then, they went through possible scenarios.

Mr Ahmed said: “Hand greetings were not in our minds and therefore did not become a topic that was raised. Had we known in advance that the women would not handshake, we would have informed the Crown Prince about it, but it was completely unknown to us that they would not.”

In Islamic culture, women do not shake the hands of men for religious reasons. Instead, they opt to place their hands over their hearts as a form of greeting.

However, many Norwegians and those in the Muslim community have described the act as disrespectful. The Royal Court commented on the case Monday evening, and they published through NRK the following statement:

“The Crown Prince experienced the visit to the Al-Noor mosque after the terror attack as strong, and that the meeting with all the participants was warm and respectful. Together with the representatives of the Islamic Council of Norway and the Al-Noor mosque, they talked about how we can together build a society where everyone can feel safe and free”.

https://www.pressmanng.com/2019/08/norwegian-mosque-apologises-to-crown.html?m=1


The apology should come from the prince not the mosque Islam has been existing for over a thousand years before he was born so HE SHOULD HAVE KNOW OUR LAWS.

also he should fire his protocol officer it was the job of the officer to have reminded him on do' and dont's

Every political officer ,royalty member is coached on the norms and customs of the area he is visiting so whose fault is it if he wasn't ?

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Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by stormborn28(m): 10:56am On Aug 29, 2019
gypsey:
Exactly, runnning back to europe claming to be moderate again.

but as i said, Christians still dominate europe, almost all the Eastern and central europe are Christians/orthodox, methodist and Anglicans.

for example were i live in a seaside tourist town, we have just 3 Turkish and srilankan muslims families, and all their children attends chrisitian schools. there are no muslims school or even a musque here, Everyone on the island is christian apart from the 3 muslim families.
well, I hope they are up and doing like Donald Trump
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by Nobody: 11:00am On Aug 29, 2019
stormborn28:
well, I hope they are up and doing like Donald Trump
That's what i mean by they are not as confrontational and Amplified, They play smart. few of the Muslims who wanted to come back after joining ISIS have been stripped of their citizenships, including one who is even a white guy, who chose to join ISIS.
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by bixton(m): 11:00am On Aug 29, 2019
Mustsucceed:


The apology should come from the prince not the mosque Islam has been existing for over a thousand years before he was born so HE SHOULD HAVE KNOW OUR LAWS.

also he should fire his protocol officer it was the job of the officer to have reminded him on does and songs

Every political officer ,royalty member is coached on the norms and customs of the area he is visiting so whose fault is of if he wasn't ?

Interesting write up.....
In as much as I would agree to some part of your post and some were to be left out....
Please how old is muslims and the muslim religion in Norway as to the the royal house the prince comes from?
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by stormborn28(m): 11:03am On Aug 29, 2019
gypsey:
That's what i mean by they are not as confrontational and Amplified, They play smart. few of the Muslims who wanted to come back after joining ISIS have been stripped of their citizenships, including one who is even a white guy, who chose to join ISIS.
thats a very good one
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by Nobody: 11:04am On Aug 29, 2019
stormborn28:
thats a very good one
That is playing smart too grin
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by Nobody: 11:05am On Aug 29, 2019
bixton:


Interesting write up.....
In as much as I would agree to some part of your post and some were to be left out....
Please how old is muslims and the muslim religion in Norway as to the the royal house the prince comes from?

We are referring to Islam Vis a Vis the crown Prince iam sorry wont engage u further
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by Nobody: 11:06am On Aug 29, 2019
bixton:


Interesting write up.....
In as much as I would agree to some part of your post and some were to be left out....
Please how old is muslims and the muslim religion in Norway as to the the royal house the prince comes from?
And not only that these muslims lives in Norway the prince's country. grin

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Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by aril: 11:07am On Aug 29, 2019
marvin906:
so shaking of hands will lead to adultery .
this people are fvcked mentally..

Maybe this article will make sense to you..

What's Up With Orthodox Men and Women and the Handshake?
By Rochel Chein.


https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/4203703/jewish/Whats-Up-With-Orthodox-Men-and-Women-and-the-Handshake.htm

My family and I met with an Orthodox rabbi and his wife the other day. I noticed that the rabbi shook hands with me but not with my wife, and that his wife shook hands with my wife, but not with me. What’s the big deal about men and women shaking hands? Isn’t a handshake just a handshake?

Click the link above and read the full article.. This isn't from Islamic perspective about handsake again.. We all learn something new everyday.
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by Nobody: 11:08am On Aug 29, 2019
Mustsucceed:


We are referring to Islam Vis a Vis the crown Prince iam sorry wont engage u further
This means either you cannot Answer the questions or you are avoiding them. grin Typical of Religious goons.

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Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by lexy2014: 11:11am On Aug 29, 2019
Khaleell001:


I can see the ad hominem in your quote.
When you know you can't counter my point your resort to insult and bring in unrelated issues.

The point here is, hand shake.
Is it permissible for a Muslim to shake hands with the opposite gender?
No.
So what's the fuss all about?
OK I get it.
Tolerance is when I do what you like not what I believe is good for me even when it does not harm you in anyway.
You are a bigger hypocrite to begin with.

Is d practice of not shaking hands between d opposite sex a teaching in d Koran or its someone who just came up with d idea?

U talking about tolerance and ur religious standards and how since d religious standards follow pose no threat to anyone, then it should b tolerated. That's quite a naive statement, kind of an entitlement mentality. Most Muslims feel they are entitled to practice their religion anywhere in d world but they don't feel other religions can b practiced in Muslim countries. U say ur religious standards should b tolerated cos it harms no one. How do other religions harm people in Saudi, Afghanistan and Pakistan that makes it a death sentence for those religions to b practiced there?

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Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by aril: 11:12am On Aug 29, 2019
Mustsucceed:


The apology should come from the prince not the mosque Islam has been existing for over a thousand years before he was born so HE SHOULD HAVE KNOW OUR LAWS.

also he should fire his protocol officer it was the job of the officer to have reminded him on does and songs

Every political officer ,royalty member is coached on the norms and customs of the area he is visiting so whose fault is of if he wasn't ?

Good comment...
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by bixton(m): 11:24am On Aug 29, 2019
Mustsucceed:


We are referring to Islam Vis a Vis the crown Prince iam sorry wont engage u further

The crown prince is not just a person. He represents an exalted office and a prince who represents the house of princes before him.
Same can be said of Islam. It's not just about an individual but a people before those practicing it presently.

If anyone for whatever reasons insults PMB, that individual is not just insulting the president but every other president before him.
Hope you get it.
Thank you.

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Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by bixton(m): 11:31am On Aug 29, 2019
aril:


Maybe this article will make sense to you..

What's Up With Orthodox Men and Women and the Handshake?
By Rochel Chein.


https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/4203703/jewish/Whats-Up-With-Orthodox-Men-and-Women-and-the-Handshake.htm

My family and I met with an Orthodox rabbi and his wife the other day. I noticed that the rabbi shook hands with me but not with my wife, and that his wife shook hands with my wife, but not with me. What’s the big deal about men and women shaking hands? Isn’t a handshake just a handshake?

Click the link above and read the full article.. This isn't from Islamic perspective about handsake again.. We all learn something new everyday.



That couple practices Judaism. And for whatever reason best to them they did what they did.
You can go through the Old Testament of the Holy Bible to figure out why they could do such.
I will not put up any in defence of them.
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by ransomed: 11:37am On Aug 29, 2019
Khaleell001:


Some of you are just too shallow.

It's the topic about purdah or about hand shake ?

If it's about purdah, we will discuss that but it's not.

We are discussing gravitational field you are bringing in viscosity.
How are they related?

Even your premises can be faulted because they lack any substance to begin with.

Hand shakes are not permitted simple as ABC.
Whether it is done by a Yoruba Muslim, Ignore Muslim, ibibio Muslim the rule holds for all of them.

So, stop tribalising Islam for us.

Islam does not know race, culture, or tribe when it comes to following the truth.


000000000 If it is about schools uniform and NYSC attire, you will shout hijab. You won't say uniform is uniform period. I see hypocrisy in you sir. Thank you.
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by prof12(m): 11:41am On Aug 29, 2019
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Whats the Quranic injunction that supports this belief?

Look, the reason Khadija and Prophet Muhammad, Sallalahu Alayhi wa Sallam, met, transacted business and became life partners was because Arabian women were not locked up behind doors and denied social freedom.

The Islamic interpretation today is that women must not be allowed in public where men are. Then this issue of handshake is part of the package of that restriction.

How did something acceptable in time of Prophet is now unacceptable in time of his followers?

Cultural and customary beliefes have crept into many of the creeds and upheld as traditions but they are false and pretenses.


Abu Hurairrah, Radiyallahu Annu, used to say he saw Prophet's wife did this...he heard Prophet's wife said that....he observed Prophet's wife went somewhere.... If the Prophet's wife was locked up in purdah as many of you kafirs in North do would Abu have the privilege to record these customs?

I just love the way Yoruba practice Islam. From Northern Nigeria all the way up there to Saudi you all are kafirs.

Practice Islam the way Yoruba

That was before the coming of Islam.
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by prof12(m): 11:43am On Aug 29, 2019
What stupid apologies.
It's perfectly okay what they did.
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by bixton(m): 11:48am On Aug 29, 2019
[quote author=prof12 post=81720973][/quote]

So something that was not in existence during the time the Prophet was alive become known and practiced after his death...........

Please how is that
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by Nobody: 11:53am On Aug 29, 2019
bixton:


The crown prince is not just a person. He represents an exalted office and a prince who represents the house of princes before him.
Same can be said of Islam. It's not just about an individual but a people before those practicing it presently.

If anyone for whatever reasons insults PMB, that individual is not just insulting the president but every other president before him.
Hope you get it.
Thank you.

What are u stating .my God your intelligence is low ..you don't even know how to present a compelling argument
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by kareemkamil(m): 11:58am On Aug 29, 2019
That's why I respect Muslims. Never forget there culture.
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by Majid1990(m): 12:00pm On Aug 29, 2019
Alanpoza007:

You just said the Quran instructed that one shouldn't get close to adultery and fornication before practicing it. It didn't explicitly say you shouldn't shake a female, right? All other major religions including Christianity preach that. So in your mind, you thinking shaking a woman publicly as a form of greeting has made you close to sleeping with her? I seriously don't understand such mindset.
my friend according to the etiquette of Islam is better holding an iron that has being on fire for long than shaking a female we only pray for guidance amen
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by bixton(m): 12:01pm On Aug 29, 2019
Mustsucceed:


What are u stating .my God your intelligence is low ..you don't even know how to present a compelling argument

Please kindly state your high and superior intelligence....
Oh my goodness someone is now exhibiting a superior intelligence.
.....wonders. ....

Can you counter my statement with your superior intelligence to compell others to reason your ways...
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by ajadi4real: 12:02pm On Aug 29, 2019
Lets tolerate ourselves on this forum
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by Nobody: 12:02pm On Aug 29, 2019
bixton:


Please kindly state your high and superior intelligence....
Oh my goodness someone is now exhibiting a superior intelligence.
.....wonders. ....

Sorry love ,I don't stoop this low.its just like a man fighting a mad man ,he would be seen as also mad

Have a good day ,love
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by ollah2: 12:05pm On Aug 29, 2019
stormborn28:
yes...he knows.... This same freedom they get in Europe they hardly allow it in their respective Muslim countries for non adherence of Islam...

You guys are bunch of bigoted and hate filled hypocrites, how often have you ever whined about restriction of freedom in china? Oh, that can't be talked about since your hatred is towards muslims and islam only
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by ajebuter(f): 12:05pm On Aug 29, 2019
madridguy:
In Islamic culture, women do not shake the hands of men for religious reasons. Instead, they opt to place their hands over their hearts as a form of greeting.

You eh!

But if it is busty and endowed Chiamaka, Ngozi or Adaobi that want to shake hand with you..

You will not ask for a big hug, abi?

Iwo laye e!! cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by bixton(m): 12:06pm On Aug 29, 2019
Mustsucceed:


Sorry love ,I don't stoop this low.its just like a man fighting a mad man ,he would be seen as also mad

Have a good day ,love

Imagine.
Who are you in love with...........

You are not just low but very shallow.
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by true2god: 12:06pm On Aug 29, 2019
Mustsucceed:


The apology should come from the prince not the mosque Islam has been existing for over a thousand years before he was born so HE SHOULD HAVE KNOW OUR LAWS.

also he should fire his protocol officer it was the job of the officer to have reminded him on do' and dont's

Every political officer ,royalty member is coached on the norms and customs of the area he is visiting so whose fault is it if he wasn't ?
Yes, as a supremacist muslim, the landlord (the Prince here) SHOULD HAVE KNOW YOUR LAWS (the tenants muslims) before coming to the house of the landlord. The landlord should have understood the value systems of the tenant before accommodating the tenant. Can you see how foolish this logic is?

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Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by Nobody: 12:09pm On Aug 29, 2019
true2god:
Yes, as a supremacist muslim, the landlord (the Prince here) SHOULD HAVE KNOW YOUR LAWS (the tenants muslims) before coming to the house of the landlord. The landlord should have understood the value systems of the tenant before accommodating the tenant. Can you see how foolish this logic is?

Darling ,make no mistake ,Muslims are never tenants . grin
Re: Prince Haakon: 3 Muslim Women Refused Handshake, Norwegian Mosque Apologizes by DonBenny77(m): 12:10pm On Aug 29, 2019
Majid1990:
I do shake female counterpart and am a Muslim

Not that am proud of it but this simply means the lower level of my faith which am working on
What is obtainable is don't shake hands with the opposite sex before even committing adultery or fornication

Clearly stated in glorious Qur'an don't get close to zina(adultery and fornication) before practicing it I can't stop shaking opposite sex doesn't mean I should cover the truth.
The ridiculous part of my scenario was that she wasn't even a devout Muslim she was always in the company of her non-Muslim camp boyfriend.
It happened the last day in camp very early in the morning while filing out with my bag and baggages I stumbled on the nysc couple shook the guy's hand and some other guy standing around then extended my hand to her. She was just staring at me, I felt really embarrassed. You can fornicate with a non-Muslim but you can't shake one's hand. I don't see any sense in that

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