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Barristter07:
Emusan no just get sense .

Jessicha:
Thank God , you didn't deny I am also a director, likewise the Father

Barristter07:
Who is God in that context ?

Maximus69:
I will supply the answers to the questions in bolded, even though you've sealed your heart towards all the visible evidences before you. But just because of honest hearted followers of this thread!

(1)Who are these BORN AGAIN-S?

They're the very ones earnestly making research always to uncover all the hidden schemes of Satan and his agents so that God's word is put to practical use, and that God's name be sanctified when people from all the earth are seeing the changes in the lifestyle and attitude of their own people that have been trained with the truth discovered in the Bible! In every part of the earth today, people can testify to the fact that once a person they knew before becomes one of Jehovah's Witnesses, certain changes is noticed as such ones give priority to the Kingdom preaching work of making disciples than pursing materialism! 2Timothy 4:1-2
Instantly he must forgo all racial discriminations in his heart in order to embrace whoever accepts the same teaching as brothers, sisters, fathers and mothers! Matthew 12:46-49

(2)They're the ones teaching us how to love people from all lands as our neighbours, and whoever shares the same line of thought with us as our spiritual family members! Though you people call all of us Jehovah's Witnesses, but the secret is that they are the REAL JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. We who are holding on to them are just following whatever Jesus {their Master} asks them to pass as information to us!

I will continue to tell you that no other religious group can ever meet up with what they've achieved within less than 200 years. Because they're not following the tradition of any man, so they keep discovering many more secrets as the holy spirit is guiding them. If they discovere anything new, they acknowledge that their Master, Lord and King Jesus Christ is the one directing them. So they'll thoroughly compare what they've found with the very words of Jesus as written in the scriptures before concluding on the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of their new discovery!

That's why none of all your Churches can withstand them,because instead of you people to concentrate on Jesus' words before making any rules, you stick to the ideologies of your imperfect human founders!

So we are the fruitage of their works {Matthew 7:15} and all of you can testify to the fact that that the JWs have done a great job to have formed a happy global family of peace loving worshippers in a world filled with RACISM! John 17:20-23

Of course your leaders are claiming to be Born again as well, so let people from all the earth see the fruitage of their works in your folks! Matthew 5:14-16 compared to James 2:18

Emusan:
Imagine, after your logic was rendered useless....


These are the questions again:

Is your son a DIRECTOR at that time?

Does anyone who address your Son as DIRECTOR committed a crime?

Will you be angry if you see people addressing your son DIRECTOR in your presence?

How will you treat your own accountant who knew vividly that you're a director but went ahead to open company account with the name of your son ONLY with a bank and told the bank THERE IS ONLY ONE DIRECTOR (with your son's name only)

In addition:

How many DIRECTORS does your company now have?

Maximus69:
Wow!

So you're not one of us!

Well you can never find anything like TRINITY in the Bible, because the author is just only ONE God! Deuteronomy 6:4 compared to Mark 12:28-30

Jesus is God's firstborn son{first and foremost creature directly made by God himself} just as Adam was the firstborn son of God{in the flesh}, Jesus was the first spirit creature God made! Proverbs 8:22 compared to Luke 3:38

God's holy spirit serves as an "Active Force".
For instance, each part of the human body serves different purposes:
Eyes~ Seeing
Mouth~ Speaking, Eating
Nose~ Breathing
Hands~ Working
Legs~ Movements and so on.

God as a spirit uses his active force to carry out whatever he wishes.
©Before creation it's only his active force that's moving here and there! Genesis 1:1-2

©In Egypt he used his active force to stop all other spirit forces that's enabling the magic practicing priests to imitate his miraculous signs before Pharaoh! Exodus 8:16-19

©God's active force enabled Balaam's donkey to speak! Numbers 22:28

©Samson was killing thousands of Philistines because God's active force was energizing him! Judges 16:28

©Elijah ran ahead of horses as God's active force enabled him! 1Kings 18:46

©God anointed his only begotten son at his baptism by means of the active force! Matthew 3:16-17

©After the establishment of Christianity God bless the Christians by using his active force to help them to accomplish unimaginable things!
Act 2:1-4, 3:1-8, 5:15

So the Holy Spirit is NOT a person like Jehovah and Jesus, it's just what God uses to accomplish his purposes.

Before his death, Stephen looked up into the heavens and he saw just two persons, God and Jesus standing by God's right hand! Act 7:56

But where is the holy spirit? Well it's just the force God used to enable Stephen see what ordinary eyes can't perceive! Act 7:55

God bless you!

solite3:
which evidence?

many religion can equally lay claim of these, give me something else.


many religion also preaches love and practise it among themselves. Tell another thing

you sadly sir dont know the meaning of been bornagain and you are not!



Your organisation has proven to be a false prophet so far.
You are decieved.
Most cult pretend to show love to their gullibles just to create an illusion in their mind, this is what your organisation does.

malvisguy212:
the spirit is NOT an active force .

Jessicha:
See stupid logic o,

I appointed him as director, why would I be angry he is called director. but every sensible persons know I still hold the key to his directorship

My son is the only one director I appointed no fuss about it, He is acting on my behalf.

How will you treat your own accountant who knew vividly that you're a director but went ahead to open company account with the name of your son ONLY with a bank and told the bank THERE IS ONLY ONE DIRECTOR (with your son's name only)

My son is the only director I authorize. The key here is I control him and made him what he is . everyone knows fully well am a director too, but Have delegated him to act on my behalf.

Apply braiiiiiiin , same apply to Jesus , his Lordship is as a result of the Father's authorization

Barristter07:
no just get sense .

Barristter07:



1Pet 1:4 " by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promises, so that through them you may become partakers of the DIVINE NATURE "

Confirmed, Do you now accept these humans are GODS ? And are Equal to God by nature ?

orisa37:
Trinity is not false. Read the Bible again and again.

johnw47:
what is needed know nothing, is for you to get intelligence



confused one, you understand nothing
the Father fathered the son, oh really, give more of this insight
Father gave Jesus the son life, wow, your knowledge is never ending

before Jesus was man(the Son) He was God the Word, His existance had no beginning
except as a seperate person to the Father

of course you won't understand again, confusion reigns in you and jano:

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Barristter07:
Act 2:36 would have saved you this embarrassment.
" Therefore let all Israel know with certainty that God has made this Jesus , whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ!” - BSB

So his Lordship was as permitted by the Father. He Controls it. So that invalidate your point


But show me where Jesus made or Give the Father his Godship ?

Barristter07:
Just put that in mind whenever El Gibboa at Isaiah 9:6 is discussed. Limit



God send his what ? ... From where was he sent ?



If he wasn't a servant at then, why was he sent out for another's will ?

Emusan:
You're the one using logic here, so your logic is the stupid one.

That's why you couldn't answer those questions but have to lump them up with your Mumbo jumbo.

Anyway, these are the questions again:

These are the questions again:

Is your son a DIRECTOR at that time?


Does anyone who address your Son as DIRECTOR committed a crime?




The @underlined really exposed your hypocrisy....

So why then are you people denying Jesus His deity?

Remember, to be a DIRECTOR means your son will ACT FULLY ON ANYTHING THAT MAKES A DIRECTOR, DIRECTOR! Isn't it?

What is the essence of holding the key, if the Father LOVES THE SON so much that the Father and the Son are ONE?

Just imagine....liar

You're still using style boycotting my questions, here is this one again:

How will you treat your own accountant who knew vividly that you're a director but went ahead to open company account with the name of your son ONLY with a bank and told the bank THERE IS ONLY ONE DIRECTOR (with your son's name only)

So what is the different between what you a director and



Since you're STILL A DIRECTOR then how many DIRECTOR will the company have

Acting on your behalf means we have two DIRECTORS with EQUAL AUTHORITIES because to be a director the person must be 100% functioning.

Isn't Jesus still Jehovah now?

Yet Apostle Paul (the accountant in our illustration) have to say THERE'S ONE LORD...

The funny thing is, your brother who you jumped in to defend used 1 Cor 8:6 to proved that since Apostle Paul said "THERE'S ONE GOD" which is the Father then Jesus can't be God...when I showed him about how his argument fall flat by using the same text for Lord, his tune changed by saying there's biblical evidence that the Father is Lord...i then challenge it that, there's also a biblical evidence that Jesus is God....when he couldn't refute that, he later change to Lordship nonsense and you jumped in to compound the confusion.

solite3:
I dont understand your question

Jessicha:
My son is a director and nobody commits crime assessing him as one. But to say he is equal with me when his directorship can't control me is the height of dullness.


He was authorized as Lord not God Almighty.

Key point: by the Father authority, that proves the Father is his Lord hence still retain his Lordship.

But the Father is the One God and in fact Father of all including Jesus - Eph 4:6



Yes will act on my behalf according to my will. I appoint him remember ?



Is Jesus Lord over the Father ?

This where my directorship lies over my son and others . u too dull abeg



Yes, cos I authorized only my son, same way the Father authorized only Jesus. Is Jesus Lord over the Father ?

But the Father is God over Jesus . deny ?

One God, he even state it in other place that one God, is also the Father of All , kindly exclude Jesus from that. But Jesus is not Lord over his Father . control!

Emusan:
You're the one using logic here, so your logic is the stupid one.

That's why you couldn't answer those questions but have to lump them up with your Mumbo jumbo.

Anyway, these are the questions again:

These are the questions again:

Is your son a DIRECTOR at that time?

Does anyone who address your Son as DIRECTOR committed a crime?




The @underlined really exposed your hypocrisy....

So why then are you people denying Jesus His deity?

Remember, to be a DIRECTOR means your son will ACT FULLY ON ANYTHING THAT MAKES A DIRECTOR, DIRECTOR! Isn't it?

What is the essence of holding the key, if the Father LOVES THE SON so much that the Father and the Son are ONE?



Just imagine....liar

You're still using style boycotting my questions, here is this one again:

How will you treat your own accountant who knew vividly that you're a director but went ahead to open company account with the name of your son ONLY with a bank and told the bank THERE IS ONLY ONE DIRECTOR (with your son's name only)

So what is the different between what you a director and



Since you're STILL A DIRECTOR then how many DIRECTOR will the company have

Acting on your behalf means we have two DIRECTORS with EQUAL AUTHORITIES because to be a director the person must be 100% functioning.

Isn't Jesus still Jehovah now?



Yet Apostle Paul (the accountant in our illustration) have to say THERE'S ONE LORD...

The funny thing is, your brother who you jumped in to defend used 1 Cor 8:6 to proved that since Apostle Paul said "THERE'S ONE GOD" which is the Father then Jesus can't be God...when I showed him about how his argument fall flat by using the same text for Lord, his tune changed by saying there's biblical evidence that the Father is Lord...i then challenge it that, there's also a biblical evidence that Jesus is God....when he couldn't refute that, he later change to Lordship nonsense and you jumped in to compound the confusion.

Gra gra lasan , the issue here is not if somebody is called God, even humans are . the issue is the designation " ONE GOD " . OVER ALL .

But we found that " ONE Lord " was as permitted by the GOD . its over all if his Lordship is over all including the Father that appoint him , True ?

If its not over the Father, that make the Father Lord too , correct ? The same way the son directorship appointment does not make him lord over he who appoint him , but that one is a director over him too, correct ?

Janosky:
John14:28. 20:17,Revelation 3:2,5,12, does Jesus agree with you?

solite3:
where did it say the father gave life to Jesus? You are reading your mind into the bible.




go back to my previous response and read slowly and carefully.

your father is older than you, does it make him a higher human than you, does it?
You are comparing apples with mangoes. Human fathers have an origin because that it is the nature of humans but not God.

God cannot be created hence that your analogy fails woefully.


The issue of age doesn't apply to God because he is ageless.
Just as the father is ageless so the Son is ageless.
Reason
God is ageless.

solite3:
where did it say the father gave life to Jesus? You are reading your mind into the bible.




go back to my previous response and read slowly and carefully.

your father is older than you, does it make him a higher human than you, does it?
You are comparing apples with mangoes. Human fathers have an origin because that it is the nature of humans but not God.

God cannot be created hence that your analogy fails woefully.


The issue of age doesn't apply to God because he is ageless.
Just as the father is ageless so the Son is ageless.
Reason
God is ageless.

johnw47:
what is needed know nothing, is for you to get intelligence



confused one, you understand nothing
the Father fathered the son, oh really, give more of this insight
Father gave Jesus the son life, wow, your knowledge is never ending

before Jesus was man(the Son) He was God the Word, His existance had no beginning
except as a seperate person to the Father

of course you won't understand again, confusion reigns in you and jano:

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

blueAgent:
I cannot stop laughing at your stupidity.
You keep parroting nonesense in the pretext that you Are making sense.

blueAgent: Jesus was God the word and were is it written that God the word has no beginning?

blueAgent: The beginning reffered to in John1:1 , is the beginning of the World not the beginning of God, because God does not have a beginning.

blueAgent: But right before God decided to make the World he first beget his Son Jesus.
If you have sense slowly read the Bible verses below.

Proverbs 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. 8:23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. 8:24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. 8:25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth: 8:26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. 8:27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth: 8:28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep: 8:29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth: 8:30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; 8:31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.

This proverbs 8:22 mirrors John 1:1 both talks about Jesus been by the side of God while God created all things
it also shows that Jesus was begotten by God,
You claim that the word has no beginning is totally childish thinking.

blueAgent:
If you have sense read the Bible verses below.
Revelation 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:


Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last

Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;



I thought you said he has no beginning?

johnw47:
what is needed know nothing, is for you to get intelligence



confused one, you understand nothing
the Father fathered the son, oh really, give more of this insight
Father gave Jesus the son life, wow, your knowledge is never ending

before Jesus was man(the Son) He was God the Word, His existance had no beginning
except as a seperate person to the Father

of course you won't understand again, confusion reigns in you and jano:

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

blueAgent:
I will keep exposing your naivety.

John 5:26
For as the Father has life in himself; so has he given to the
Son to have life in himself;


If Jesus (word)was self existing as you claim why does the father give him life?

johnw47:
oh brain like a sieve know nothing
i certanally did say the word had no beginning and
i also said the word had a beginning as a seperate person to God

read my posts oh mumu brain, but comprehend them, laughing

johnw47:
of course you understand nothing oh mumu brain




ha ha, you lot are so duh, in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God, john 1:1
"the word was God", truly know nothing, God had no beginning, laugh



really, who would have thought that, ha ha ha



the word always existed in God, read my posts oh most intellectally challenged one
but reading is one thing and understanding is something else with you