₦airaland Forum

Forget all this mumu people. The poorest Nigeria makes a profit of 5,000 daily naira if he really want to. Only frustrated people who refuse to engage themselves come on Nairaland to shout Boko Haram, Buhari, Fulani herdsmen, abroad. Serious people are too busy creating more opportunities while expanding and increasing their net worth. The opportunities to make money in Nigeria can't be found anywhere in the world.

Rafiq2:
Do you have any idea d kind of asset an average Nigerian owns?
Do you have any idea what that Hausa man dey earn in profits daily from that small kiosk way dey Ur area?
Do you know that a woman selling akara makes an average of over 5k profit daily.
Do you have any idea d kind of profit mama puts earns daily.
Do you have any idea how much emeke earns daily in profits from his little patent medicine store.


Forget d what you believe, mingle with people, if you want you can make it in Nigeria

loswhite:
You got 223 likes from fellow dumb ppl... You type rubbish without facts and you got like....lol.

when I read comments here
I just laugh

ahiboilandgas:
whooa that some low live shit..all the item your listed only give low live ,stress ridden miserbla live

The so called low live is better than middle class America who are chained in debt and depression and will be losing his car and house soon. Foreclosed and off to the street he will sleep tonight

planetx:
The richest Nigerians made their money in Nigeria and live in Nigeria not America or Canada. If you want a semi comfortable life living on credit then countries like America or Canada is good for you.

Make #1 equal to $1 and see 95% Nigerians living in the US relocate back home.

Everybody is saying make #1 equal to $1 yen yen, who is going to make that happen? Please stop Dreaming, you can't compare America to a Shit hole like Nigeria.

Ugosample:
when I read comments here
I just laugh

Ugosample go and look for another job. Visa agent won't be working in 2020. I have exposed the lies of the America dream and even people in remote villages in Nigeria are now aware that they live better lives than most Americans. You still have age on your side, I can set you up. Take my offer and you will make a minimum of 20,000 naira daily. The days of traveling to America and western Europe is officially over. Thanks to me!

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KuwaiitiDinar:
I have made so many comments on topics like this on social media but let me add this, there is not bases for comparison between the two because they operate on different economic and social policies , but if you are an American!!! sure you will have a better life... when I mean Americans I am not including acquired citizenship through birth tourism and immigration...they give welfare like candies in America...it is a total difference world... In 2010 American government through the census bureau said that there are 383 million people living in America and only 10 million are Americans. Please be informed that America takes care of her citizens and still extend their hand to millions that flood their nation . If you are still in doubt ask those who are in America and are still struggling to bring more of their folks here. I repeat, it is not the same so cannot be compared... like comparing a lion with a cat. It is a highly industrialized society... not to compared with Africa as a whole let alone Nigeria.
I have tried to explain this to most immigrants and intending ones, but it seems it is not sinking.

How can 383 million people be living in America and only 10 million are Americans, are you saying 373 million are immigrants. Where did you get this figure from? You said the census Bureau, no way that figure is possible.

orunmila144:
you will rather pay monthly ? gtfoh. to pay nepa bill is a herculean task for you nigerians but we are expected to believe that you will gladly pay monthly for a car ? to pay your nepa bills you guys beat up nepa officials or bribe them to go away. we are supposed to believe you can survive the american system ? half of the nigerians who go to america end up having mental illness because they find out they cant get away with not paying their bills. thats why many nigerian men go mad in america and start killing their wives. the truth of the matter is that america is a very hard place to live in. it is not for the faint hearted. many nigerians have mental illness in america

Stop talking nonsense, the Nepa bill you're talking about how many times Do you see light in a day in Nigeria?

KendrickAyomide:
look at this animal. my brother is a Medical doctor. You think everyone is Poor like the people in your family. Big Fooool

Another brainwashed millipede. Doctors are not rich they carry a debt burden of over $300,000 from medical school that they will spend the rest of their lives paying back. An average trader in Alaba will buy your doctor brother, his wife and children along with their dog and other pets, and tell the Mayor of his city to keep the change for his next summer vacation

timesup234:
Another brainwashed millipede. Doctors are not rich they carry a debt burden of over $300,000 from medical school that they will spend the rest of their lives paying back. An average trader in Alaba will buy your doctor brother, his wife and children along with their dog and other pets, and tell the Mayor of his city to keep the change for his next summer vacation

see this useless son of a swine. My uncle went to the US with a scholarship. Besides that, his father would have been able to pay his fees comfortably. Frustrated slowpoke. How will he get student loans when he was not a US citizen ? Brainless mongrel

KendrickAyomide:
see this useless son of a swine. My uncle went to the US with a scholarship. Besides that, his father would have been able to pay his fees comfortably. Frustrated slowpoke. How will he get student loans when he was not a US citizen ? Brainless mongrel

Why do you bother replying him? He will succeed in bringing you down to his level. You have time sha

InvertedHammer:
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Africa (especially Nigeria) is better than US.

In Nigeria, majority of the roads are good. Nigeria has low unemployment rate, constant electricity, clean environment and top-notch water supply system. Nigerian workers/employees are guaranteed to receive their salaries at the end of every month. The one I love the most about Nigeria is that the government loves her people so much that they rise up to squash any breakdown in internal security. Nigeria is El Dorado!

Nigeria has many naira billionaires. AMCON list? What a joke! Nigerians do not use credit facilities. They have so much money that World Bank is borrowing from them.
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You forgot to add that Nigeria has zero crime rate and Zero insurgency and one of the safest place to live in the world

KendrickAyomide:
see this useless son of a swine. My uncle went to the US with a scholarship. Besides that, his father would have been able to pay his fees comfortably. Frustrated slowpoke. How will he get student loans when he was not a US citizen ? Brainless mongrel

So your family made millions and billions in Nigeria to be able to afford such a high quality of life for your uncle and you call Nigeria a shithole? You are a termite, I mean a mosquito and spider...Sniper pesticide someone please

worldclass68:
American to Africans countries (extreme poor nation excluded) is like comparing an average earner in Manchester United squad to his counterpart from Eyimba fc or Esperance in Tunisia......
while the former lavish money weekly and live big life ( mostly from credit card) and later ended up so broke after retirement, with rents, tax phone bills etc.
The later knowing fully well no credit card anywhere for him, will surely live normal life and maintain his money and save surely, with less tax, rent, bill and also have opportunity to start up small/medium scale biz which almost impossible for his counterpart.


I think the major different is the administration, like security, roads, standard of living, good houses power employment opportunities etc.....

as for me Sha...I beg I won leave naija preferably Canada, Norway or UK, who naija ep..

The one playing at Enyimba is always Dreaming to play at Manchester United, so who is Deceiving who?

Rafiq2:
It's alright, keep saving, get a visa, go USA & get Ur Credit card & enjoy d debt life


while you drink a small cup of tea at $1 or $4 for coffee. we get same thing here for an average of 50 naira( that's even factoring in expensive shops)

FYI with d opportunities to make so much cash in Nigeria, I will never give that up to to do menial jobs in America, just because of water & electricity 24/7. You Yankee immigrants dey craze sha

which kind tea be 50 naira that low live Mai sayi tea on the street with t.b infested cups, I sachets of peak is 50 naira ,Milo 50 sugar 10 ,gas 5 ,disposable cup 30 naira then cost of production ...... oboy u not drinking tea but risking your health with t.b or ebola

useni1:
This is the truth and nothing but the truth. The media has done a lot to portray life in the Western world when in reality it is very far from the truth.

[color=#000000][/color] It's funny how the Media gets people to believe that America is the best place in the world

timesup234:
Yes far better with college students sleeping with sugar daddies to pay back their student loans?

https://www.businessinsider.com/seeking-arrangement-sugar-daddies-pay-sugar-babies-college-tuition-2017-11?IR=T

Yes far better with 62% of Americans one paycheck away from living on the street

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/most-americans-are-one-paycheck-away-from-the-street-2016-01-06

Yes far better with people who have masters degrees still working till the age of 75 to be able to afford retirement and not die in debt

https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/investing/millennial-grad-retirement-age-is-75/

When next you come here to quote me just know you are talking to someone who knows the US. like the back of his hand. I have rendered so many people useless on this forum daring to engage me. The next time you quote me you will get a serious uppercut that will lead to spinal injury

Mr man America is my least favourite country but it’s better than Nigeria by all means asides the fact that it isn’t our home Full Stop. Forget your dead stats I don’t care whether I live on credit or not as long as I live well. The 200,000,000 people in Nigeria living in poverty nko no food to eat, no light, no food or water Boko haram, police, etc

At least I get my paycheck. If an American doesn’t have a job, the government provides welfare to take care of basic needs. Do we have that in Nigeria. Most of the people that end up o. The streets have drug issues, mental issues or similar so understand the meaning of numbers that you quote

ahiboilandgas:
band 7 is over 1.2m monthly

Is that the entry level for graduate trainee/fresh starters...
Thats my question...

Rolly22:
The one playing at Enyimba is always Dreaming to play at Manchester United, so who is Deceiving who?

exactly, now imagine what he would make if he's smart enough when given the chance...

Rolly22:
You forgot to add that Nigeria has zero crime rate and Zero insurgency and one of the safest place to live in the world

Now, answer this honestly; which has a higher possibility of happening;
You being killed by insurgents on the streets of Nigeria ( especially in the south)
Or
You being shot in a public space (schools, churches, malls, etc) on the streets of any US State.

In other news, just a few hours ago, Rampage leaves five dead in Texas shooting - https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-49540160

SIRTee15:
And yes u can travel overseas n get good paying job...
IT n healthcare professions are paying good money to fresh immigrant professionals....
And recently, these jobs are in hot demand both in Europe and America....
Guys are picking 100 thousand dollars job in silicon valley straight from abroad....
As I said, u properly lived among working class while in uk...thus your myopic view of the UK system...
And abroad in general....

So please can you shed more light as to why Europeans would neglect there own professionals who are even more trained in their own systems and attended the same university in the same European country in question and start looking for trained immigrants in the same field who can do the same job

I think you need to be more reasonable pls.
You cannot come no where and come to the Uk and land a £60,000 job Please i beg it is almost impossible do you how many solitary indigenes of the uk will and apply for top jobs al the time and don't get it

So you will just come from no where and they will hand you over the job with a work permit cos you are boss abi lol

SIRTee15:
There are only 15 thousand millionaires in nigeria....
Don't give us some imaginary statistics....
And I'm sure 90 percent are politician n their cronies anyway....

No now please just answer my question do you know how many Nigerian daughters and sons are abroad now paying £18,000 as tuition fees in naira paid in advance

Please it's a simple analysis
Call a spade a spade pls

SIRTee15:
The argument should be between nigerian immigrants working class in uk v nigerian middle class in nigeria....
Thats a fair balance....
As I said earlier, Tesco cashiers go on holiday overseas almost every year....
A very rare occurrence for naija middle class.....

Who will be earning at least £600 a month and won't be able to afford holidays
Who told you Nigerian middle class are not working class as well

A rare occurrence is Nigerian middle classes taking holidays people who have students at international students paying £18,000 a year fees
You that you said you were earning £60,000 when you were in the Uk pls can you afford £18,000
School fees per year

Please lets be serious abeg
Tesco cashier on holiday really

HBB1:
Mind you, it's only in poor Nigeria someone regards himself a Millionaire because he makes a million (naira) a month!

He buys a second hand car, lives amongst dirt poor people and thinks he is made?

Convert that money to Forex and know what's up!

...and to say only very few of the population can even boast of that million naira a month, tells you a lot.

Yes thank you for helping my point, yes convert his 1 million to pounds that £2,000, plseae do you earn this much in the uk after your rent, and living expenses pls

The answer is no

Still on this matter.......

Some people get arguments liver sha!

The weak currency is making Nigerians running abroad, forget insecurity, economy issue or standard of living.

I will suggest this thread should be closed......

Too many attacks and insults......

Comparison of the two countries is complete fallacy

cc disguy

adonainana:
So please can you shed more light as to why Europeans would neglect there own professionals who are even more trained in their own systems and attended the same university in the same European country in question and start looking for trained immigrants in the same field who can do the same job

I think you need to be more reasonable pls.
You cannot come no where and come to the Uk and land a £60,000 job Please i beg it is almost impossible do you how many solitary indigenes of the uk will and apply for top jobs al the time and don't get it

So you will just come from no where and they will hand you over the job with a work permit cos you are boss abi lol

I wish I could divulge my personal information...

My roommate in uni, barely 1 year in the UK, had 10million naira in savings, and this after sorting Hsi parents out in Naij ( he sends reasonable amounts home).

My brother-in-law barely 1 year in the UK bought an 11000 pound car in cash!
He could afford to gimme200k naira,without me asking, when I needed money for some things then. They didn't born him well when he was in Naij.

The first time I visited the UK, I stayed with a Nigerian girl in London ( in a high brow area). She was an investment banker ( and a friend to my girlfriend). Her salary was touted to be close to 100k pounds!

But whatever you believe is yours to believe sha, there are Nigerians with very good jobs.

adonainana:
Yes thank you for helping my point, yes convert his 1 million to pounds that £2,000, plseae do you earn this much in the uk after your rent, and living expenses pls

The answer is no

Bruv, I do!


You must have been fv.cking poor when you were in England!

timesup234:
Ugosample go and look for another job. Visa agent won't be working in 2020. I have exposed the lies of the America dream and even people in remote villages in Nigeria are now aware that they live better lives than most Americans. You still have age on your side, I can set you up. Take my offer and you will make a minimum of 20,000 naira daily. The days of traveling to America and western Europe is officially over. Thanks to me!

naa
I'm no visa agent

adonainana:
No now please just answer my question do you know how many Nigerian daughters and sons are abroad now paying £18,000 as tuition fees in naira paid in advance

Please it's a simple analysis
Call a spade a spade pls

If you think middle income earners are the ones paying 18000 pounds for tuition abroad, you must be deluded!

Means there is no middle class in a whole Nigerian civil service!

Someone ears 1.5 million naira a month, that's say 18 million a year and can afford to pay 18000 pounds (9million naira ) as Scholl fees for 1 child?
En no dey chop?

You are lugubrious!

adonainana:
I repeat anyone in the UK on a £60,000 takes home only £3000 per month ( The tax band for earners between earning between £46,000 to £150,000 comes in between 40 %) There is no escaping it, its a matter of legislation put down in law.

The only way you can avoid paying your tax in the UK is if you illegally use someones else National Insurance No similar to the Social Security Number in the USA.

Please ask your auditors, engineers friends that would they mind telling me thier Tax code as written on thier monthly payslips, i will tell them how much they earn monthly, they will think i am a sorcerer.

I repeat the net pay ( the final money that goes into your account if you are on a £60,000 salary ) is £3000.

£3,000 is not a lot of money, infact people like that will still end up Paying bills and just dying like that.

I never said Majority of Nigerians are living better than Majority of people living in the west.

My point was in my 11 years of living in the west, i have seen Middle class UK people being unable to afford what Midlle Class Nigerians can afford

Even if we use the example of this your auditor friend you claim earns £60,000. He is a very high extremely high earner by UK standards, he is not even Middle class by UK standards. Yet all he earns after tax is just £3,000 ( 1.5 million naira per month )

How does it sound that someone classed as a High earner earns what most Middle class Nigerians make per month. Hope you have started to understand where i am coming from

More or less this your auditor friend, he has not even deducted his rent, car, petrol, etc etc from this net pay of £3,000 he has just made.

So sir do you see where i am coming from, this your £60,000 friend is actually poor if we look deep down at it constructively sir

You see this hospital this, this good road that, please just leave it to one side cos i wonder where on the planet are there not roads and hospitals

60% of 60,000 is 36,000 not 3,000. If your math is that bad, I'm going to believe the rest of your argument.

Kennydoc:
You're extremely ignorant. I don't know if you've lived in America before, but you lack knowledge of what you're talking about. You're just quoting useless figures up and down without sitting down and doing a little calculation.

What is the cost of a used 2005 Toyota Corolla in America? Let's say about $4k. For a minimum wage earner in the US who works only 40 hours per week, it will take him about 4-5 months to buy the car with his whole salary.
In Nigeria, the same car probably costs about ₦1-1.4m. It will take a minimum wage earner in Nigeria about 3 years to buy the same car if he's to save up all his salary.

Americans and people from other developed world live on credit because they acquire the best quality (often newest) products. Some of them can't afford such if you ask them to pay cash, but their counterparts in Nigeria can't even dream of them in the first place.
A brand new Samsung Galaxy Note 10 is around $1k. An average US worker can afford to buy the phone with one salary and still have enough change to sort out his rent and other stuff. How many average Nigerian workers can afford to buy a phone of about 360k from one salary? Absolutely NONE! The credit system in the western world means they don't have to pay for everything cash, but can pay in bits over some years still leaving enough cash to sort out other pressing needs.

In terms of housing, the quality of residential houses in Nigeria that can remotely be compared to the average American or European houses are probably the houses in high brow areas in Abuja, Lagos and other big cities in Nigeria. How many average Nigerian workers can afford to live there? Even junior doctors who work in government hospitals in Nigeria can't afford to rent 3 bedroom flats in Maitama, Wuse, Asokoro etc, yet these are some of the top 20% highest earning Nigerian workers.

The fact is that compared to the quality of life in the developed world, many Nigerians are not even living.

Well said!