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Funny how this people think they can fool us. Since Yaradua didn't sign it,then whose signature or signatures were there? Arrest them simple.

kside:


which court....??

a none nigerian court....

a court that sat toghether and deceided to colonize you....!!

you mean that court....!!??

park joor....[quote][/quote]Which everyone?
Are running helter sketer now? because of this? talk true
na una just dey carry the trumpet blow o

Arrest the fraudulent officials now and charge them to court speedily. Also charge all P&ID senior officials to court for criminal conspiracy and collusion to defraud the Nigerian government. This is not a time for padi padi cover up. Plus judiciary time wasting.

Time is of the essence in this case. Get malami and appoint brilliant lawyers within Nigeria to seal their fate. Plus pass official judgement on assets of the UK and Irish too. Let’s see who is more wicked and corrupt.

UK is facing Brexit and their future is uncertain. So they are desperate to money grab anywhere. Not in Nigeria. We have suffered enough in their hands.

helinues:
And Gej was the vice then. I have said it, this P&ID saga is just an avenue for the broke Pdp leaders who connived with them earlier to scam the FG..

The then FEC did not approve the contracts but they went behind the door to approve it just cos the then president was incapacitated and the vice was Jonah clueless

Chairman, tomorrow when BUHARI is gone and another company sued Nigeria, what will you say? Or have you forgotten the $25bn(about N9trillion) NNPC contract signed by BARU(NNPC GMD) while BUHARI was on a sickbed in London, without recourse to the Board,? I suspect that is one of the reasons why Kachikwu never made it back as a Minister in this 'Next level'.

bobby56:
Chairman, tomorrow when BUHARI is gone and another company sued Nigeria, what will you say? Or have you forgotten the $25bn(about N9trillion) NNPC contract signed by BARU(NNPC GMD) while BUHARI was on a sickbed in London, without recourse to the Board,? I suspect that is one of the reasons why Kachikwu never made it back as a Minister in this 'Next level'.

No serious company that does business will sign a contract with a government official who does not have the authority to sign that contract. Whether the authority is perceived or implied because it can be voided by another government tomorrow. The government official does not have any authority to sign. Authority goes from President to Vice President to Senate President, if both President and VP are incapacitated.

Companies must also take responsibility to avoid being culpable and avoid losses. Especially in a country like Nigeria where government officials are fraudulent. Only the company will lose because government official will disappear into thin air.

After all this fight, shouting and noise, you will put down your phones, go away from your laptops and keyboards and still nothing will change.

Buhari and GEJ sons and daughters are currently surfing the internet searching for new clothes , shoes, wristwatches, computers from America and UK.

They live in a non crowdy and serene environment with maids and house helps to do their bidding.

Stop this online bickering, it won’t help anybody’s course.

The useless Yahaya Bello is campaigning for a second term and will 100% win the upcoming elections and we sit and kill ourselves online.

FSBoperator:
The same scam was perpetuated by the same recycled cabal.

Osinbajo that enjoyed full constitutional authority as acting President was not even aware of the NNPC contract signed by Baru, which means the contract never got FEC approval.

It was Kachikwu that raised the alarm through a leaked letter he addressed to Buhari citing Baru's gross insubordination.

Baru even came out to state that he and the board of NNPC are not answerable to Kachikwu as Minister of State for Petroleum but only to the President and substantive minister who Buhari doubles as.

Baru will claim he secured that contract with Buhari's signature and approval even though Buhari had since notified the Senate officially that he had handed over the presidency to Osinbanjo and from there proceeded on medical leave for close to 3 mths at which time he remained reclusive to the world.

Now the question to ask is why has the president, EFCC, Malami refused to state who signed the P&ID contract on behalf of NNPC ?

They first accused Jonathan but when they saw that this won't fly, the laid it on Yar'adua.

Now just see as these idiot rats are even exonerating Lukman as "very honest". What defines honesty? Is honesty enough to stop investigating someone under whose administration a fraud was committed? This is the same lame lies Buhari has used alongside claiming ignorance of corruption under his watch as Minister of Petroleum during Obasanjo's military rule and PTF chairman under Abacha.

EFCC should release the contract document for us to see who signed on behalf of the NNPC.

They won't dare reveal this because the same shaddy character was and still is part of the recycled Yar'adua cabal that currently holds power in the presidency and his name is Mohammed Barkindo!

Comparing apples to pineapple. You guys love comparing unrelated issues as a whataboutism excuse to justify failings by the previous government.

The alleged NNPC contract was oil lifting contracts and not structural or supply contracts. NNPC nominates and approves companies that lifts (or sells) Nigerias crude oil to foreign buyers. There are two market in the crude oil market - spot market and contract. Only the president and the oil minister that can approve the sale of nigerias oil to foreigners, there is no role for FEC or even the vice president in crude oil contract sales.

baby124:
No serious company that does business will sign a contract with a government official who does not have the authority to sign that contract. Whether the authority is perceived or implied because it can be voided by another government tomorrow. The government official does not have any authority to sign. Authority goes from President to Vice President to Senate President, if both President and VP are incapacitated.

Companies must also take responsibility to avoid being culpable and avoid losses. Especially in a country like Nigeria where government officials are fraudulent. Only the company will lose because government official will disappear into thin air.

The vice president or senate president has no role in crude oil contracts. It is only the president and the petroleum minister that can approve crude oil sales contract.

tsdarkside:
soo,Yar’Adua signed when he was in coma....??

kiiiikikikiki....

even our own yahoo boys are smarter than this....

I can bet you didn't read the post. brainless mofo

That means GEJ is involved

harley88:
I can bet you didn't read the post. brainless mofo

wuaaat....??

helinues:
Your arguments is incoherent..

Why did Gej agreed to pay the money in first instance without cross checking the validity of the contracts?

Why didn't Gej pay the money when it was $850m?

So you expect a new government still trying to recover looted money by the Pdp machine looters to pay for $850m which the then FEC did not approved nor have records of its existence.

So you are no longer a Pdp man when no plates to lick anymore.. These are the real betrayers.. Pdp turning to a laughing stock

Check out the validity of the contract? I believe that's a case for the court which is why GEJ went into arbitration. So, he actually tested the validity and realized the best option was arbitration. He was right.

wirinet:
The vice president or senate president has no role in crude oil contracts. It is only the president and the petroleum minister that can approve crude oil sales contract.

That is the authority of the federal government should each level be incapacitated. Petroleum minister cannot sign without the signature of one of these officials. If the president is incapacitated, approval must go to VP and then Senate President if both President and VP are incapacitated

helinues:
And Gej was the vice then. I have said it, this P&ID saga is just an avenue for the broke Pdp leaders who connived with them earlier to scam the FG..

The then FEC did not approve the contracts but they went behind the door to approve it just cos the then president was incapacitated and the vice was Jonah clueless .

P&ID had the deal with individuals not with Nigeria government.

shut up did Efcc say GEJ was part of it children of hate dats y ur whole generation will not attain his height

the case has ''most likely fraud'' written all over it

EFCC should not stop,they should use a microscope and keep probing,the truth will unravel under the close scrutiny.

For example question number 1: did the president at the time who was in a coma sign the documents or were they forged signatures

other questions will follow...

baby124:
That is the authority of the federal government should each level be incapacitated. Petroleum minister cannot sign without the signature of one of these officials. If the president is incapacitated, approval must go to VP and then Senate President if both President and VP are incapacitated

No such thing in the Nigerian constitution. If the president is incapacited, the vice president becomes the acting President and if both President and vice president becomes incapacited, the senate president becomes the acting President for a maximum of 3 months, before another election is held to elect a new president. Presidential duties cannot be transferred without the transfer of power either in acting or substantive capacity.

wirinet:
No such thing in the Nigerian constitution. If the president is incapacited, the vice president becomes the acting President and if both President and vice president becomes incapacited, the senate president becomes the acting President for a maximum of 3 months, before another election is held to elect a new president. Presidential duties cannot be transferred without the transfer of power either in acting or substantive capacity.

What the hell are you saying? I think you are confused. Being incapacitated means transfer of power should be effected as soon as possible. To avoid any power vacuum.

That charade with Jonathan by the cabal was illegal. With proven incapacitation should bring about immediate transfer of power. A contract on that scale can never ever be approved by a government official legally without the signature of those 3 officials in situations of incapacitation. In fact that contract was very fraudulent and illegal if Yar’Adua was incapacitated and it was not signed by Jonathan. Even before power transfer it can be successfully argued that Jonathan had the authority to sign on behalf of the Nigerian government in the case where the President couldn’t and, they will win the case in court. Certainly never an NNPC official.

baby124:
What the hell are you saying? I think you are confused. Being incapacitated means transfer of power should be effected as soon as possible. To avoid any power vacuum.

That charade with Jonathan by the cabal was illegal. With proven incapacitation should bring about immediate transfer of power. A contract on that scale can never ever be approved by a government official legally without the signature of those 3 officials in situations of incapacitation. In fact that contract was very fraudulent and illegal if Yar’Adua was incapacitated and it was not signed by Jonathan. Even before power transfer it can be successfully argued that Jonathan had the authority to sign on behalf of the Nigerian government in the case where the President couldn’t and, they will win the case in court. Certainly never an NNPC official.

You are arguing here and there and everywhere. Jonathan could not act as president without the process of declaring the president incapacitated being followed. The constitution describes how a President can be declared incapacitated on health grounds, and this process was not followed. Believe me you are not more knowledgeable than Jonathan and his advisers.
That the contract was fraudulent is not in doubt. A contract of such magnitude could not have been signed without the knowledge of the attorney general, NNPC, the due process office, finance ministry and the FEC. Jonathan could not have done much, because information on the state of the president was hidden from him and Nigerians in general. Where I blame him is that he should have revoked the contract immediately he was sworn in as acting President less than one month after the contract was allegedly signed, he should never have agreed to enter arbitration on a contract he knew nothing about.

FG should prove Nigerian strength by challenging them in court.

We shouldn't threat this with naivety

helinues:
And Gej was the vice then. I have said it, this P&ID saga is just an avenue for the broke Pdp leaders who connived with them earlier to scam the FG..

The then FEC did not approve the contracts but they went behind the door to approve it just cos the then president was incapacitated and the vice was Jonah clueless .

P&ID had the deal with individuals not with Nigeria government.

My friend GEJ was Vice but you people from the north never allowed him to take power,your people were playing politics with national interest then,now you open your wide mouth to mention GEJ

Teacher1776:
Conspiracy theories won't change anything now.
It didn't change the fact that someone who was elected to lead felt the contract was none of his fucking business. Now that water done pass garri, they are frantically searching for who to blame.

The picture below is an apt representation of how Buhari reacts to the numerous problems facing the country.
If una like, make una kill una self.
If una like make una shout from here to Jericho.
if una like make una dey abuse, insult, dey praise me, criticise. All na una cup of tea.
E no consign me.
I DEY HERE DEY PICK MY TEETH.

you just spoke the truth... Inefficiency and incompetence and it is not my concern have led to this cogmire

Buhari is to be blamed for this mess. He has been in office since 2015 and he never ordered for the probe of this fraud until now that the court ordered that the country asset be seized. His lackadaisical attitude put us in this situation we are at the moment.

Iamgrey5:
Bro learn to separate facts from fiction.

The 6bn judgement was already given to dubious company when Jonathan was in power, he negotiated a resettlement but Refused to pay.

Jonathan was also the one who broke the agreement.

You lie effortlessly.. Retract ASAP..

jmaine:
You lie effortlessly.. Retract ASAP..

Where's the lie

I am quoting the statement of the chairman of the company itself.

6bn was awarded to the company and Jonathan renegotiated a $850 settlement.

Iamgrey5:
Where's the lie

I am quoting the statement of the chairman of the company itself.

That is another lie... GEJ handed a liability of $850 million.. Fact

jmaine:
That is another lie... GEJ handed a liability of $850 million.. Fact

6bn was awarded to the company by the courts but renegotiated to $850 settlement but he refused to pay it before he left office

Gush use your brain for once bro !

Iamgrey5:
6bn was awarded to the company but renegotiated a $850 settlement but refused to pay it before he left office

Gush use your brain for once bro !

You should be the one using your brain.. Stop being shameless with your desperate lies.. ...

https://www.nairaland.com/5389571/buhari-not-jonathan-blamed-9bn


The fact is that GEJ left a liability of $850 million...... We should learn to always be straight forward...

jmaine:
You should be the one using your brain.. Stop being shameless with your desperate lies.. ...

https://www.nairaland.com/5389571/buhari-not-jonathan-blamed-9bn


The fact is that GEJ left a liability of $850 million...... We should learn to always be straight forward...

You are slow

When was 6.5 first awarded to the company?

Did Jonathan pay the settlement before he left office?

Iamgrey5:
You are slow

When was 6.5 first awarded to the company?

Did Jonathan pay the settlement before he left office?

Open that link and cure your deliberate ignorance.. Don't be a lazy Buharist....

Reading is your God given rights...

jmaine:
Open that link and cure your deliberate ignorance.. Don't be a lazy Buharist....

Reading is your God given rights...

https://www.nairaland.com/5392047/9b-judgment-p-id-chief

You are indeed slow

$9 is different from $ 6 first awarded. $3 bnn is simply the interest calculated on the money for the period Nigeria refused to pay the money.

Buhari was contesting the payments in the courts for the past 10years

The rogue firm already won the Jonathan government in the court before they decided to settle.

helinues:
Who was the Vice president? You mean he was so clueless that when his boss was incapacitated, he knew absolutely nothing about the contracts?

Pdp supporters wont seized to amaze someone.. So Na Buhari Una dey blame for very obvious Pdp's scamming method..

So Buhari was part of Yaradua's dining cabinets?

It has finished

I guess you were in kindergarten when Yaradua was sick. It took three months of Yaradua absence before GEJ was allowed to be an acting President. The contract was signed in January 2010 while GEJ became acting President in February, 2010. Check your history book please.