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I must acknowledge your effort to apologize and that says something good about you, I reciprocate and also apologize for any insulting comments I made in your respect.

Having said that, you're getting it very wrong concerning me just as many here, and I hope you let the Holy Spirit guide you to correct your erroneous judgment otherwise you'd definitely regret it, because that was also how many got it wrong in the instance of Jesus when He was here.

For if it's about what I typed, this is what Jesus who you said I claim to represent said Himself to Jewish spiritual leaders of His day:

Matthew 23:17 (KJV)

Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?

So if he'll awaits anyone who calls his brother a fool, then Jesus Himself who said it should have been on that list, but He wasn't because He was Perfect and never sinned irrespective of that, because the saying had to do with calling your brother a fool without a cause not with a cause.

So you would see that i try to follow His example as much as I possibly can, for even Jesus didn't add "spiritually" to the blind that He called such ones. For instance, i came to Nairaland since last year Oct, but I don't think I have ever called anyone mad. Why? because Jesus never did it, and He was the one that was called mad and John His forerunner by the Pharisees. So that says something about such a word and those who use it, probably because fool and blind are on the basis of choices but not mad.

Trust me guy, it seems you truly love God, but such examples of Oyedepo and Olukoya etc., would never make you to become as Jesus was.

Sit down at the feet of the Master and learn, for if you could comprehend why Jesus would be asking Peter three times if He loved Him, you would be able to understand why we have to do what we do. That Jesus is not here doesn't mean that those who lead the flock shouldn't be held accountable and corrected when they err.

But your choice.

God bless.

Chidorx60:
Jesus jnr, the last conversation I had with u made me sin against God when I abused you and I apologize for that,
As a Christian i belive insult is not the way to correct a person,
don't know about you.


But I plead with you to go back to your God and ask for mercy,brother you are missing it,embrace humility and go and read the scriptures.

Just look at what you typed above,the lord Jesus whom you claim to represent will not call a brethren a fool to correct that fellow.

If you don't see anything wrong in calling me a fool,knowing that hell awaits thoes who call their brother a fool,
Then how can you see anything wrong in the atrocities you perform against God servants.

May God help you.

Luke 19:27 JESUS said the enemies that will not allow him to rule over them should be killed, if you don't know, MFM prayer is biblical psalms 55:12-15 the enemy they are talking about is not human being, that seasonal sickness chronic headache that use to manifest in your life are your enemies that symptom you are been taking drugs to no avail is your enemy, read Ephesian 6:11-12, Math 11:12 the kingdom of God surfers violence ,john the Baptist carried the spirit of Elijah but he did not carry the violence of Elijah his head became toy in the pot of herod,if don't want your head to become toy in the pot of the herod of your father's house had violence prayer to your Christianity life.

jesusjnr:
I must acknowledge your effort to apologize and that says something good about you, I reciprocate and also apologize for any insulting comments I made in your respect.

Having said that, you're getting it very wrong concerning me just as many here, and I hope you let the Holy Spirit guide you to correct your erroneous judgment otherwise you'd definitely regret it, because that was also how many got it wrong in the instance of Jesus when He was here.

For if it's about what I typed, this is what Jesus who you said I claim to represent said Himself to Jewish spiritual leaders of His day:

Matthew 23:17 (KJV)

Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?

So if he'll awaits anyone who calls his brother a fool, then Jesus Himself who said it should have been on that list, but He wasn't because He was Perfect and never sinned irrespective of that, because the saying had to do with calling your brother a fool without a cause not with a cause.

So you would see that i try to follow His example as much as I possibly can, for even Jesus didn't add "spiritually" to the blind that He called such ones. For instance, i came to Nairaland since last year Oct, but I don't think I have ever called anyone mad. Why? because Jesus never did it, and He was the one that was called mad and John His forerunner by the Pharisees. So that says something about such a word and those who use it, probably because fool and blind are on the basis of choices but not mad.

Trust me guy, it seems you truly love God, but such examples of Oyedepo and Olukoya etc., would never make you to become as Jesus was.

Sit down at the feet of the Master and learn, for if you could comprehend why Jesus would be asking Peter three times if He loved Him, you would be able to understand why we have to do what we do. That Jesus is not here doesn't mean that those who lead the flock shouldn't be held accountable and corrected when they err.

But your choice.

God bless.

May God give us understanding

..And the over 300 plus 1st class MFM graduates from around the world were rewarded. The church is moving on, as Daddy GO said, this is just the beginning MFM is just starting.

Buliwyf:
Actually this has been done already. Stem cells can now be gotten without the need for embryos.

Odukoya should focus on something more reasonable and measurable like curing world hunger and diseases if he actually talks to God. Instead of what he is doing now by spreading superstition and fear among his congregation. The guy is nothing but a Christian shaman.

He is just using all the same tactics juju priests use. Everything is about an enemy or an evil spirit. Yet most of the congregation are still in the same position they were 10 years ago even after all the vigils. No change. Just more wailing and shouting "die by fire".

Where you there when God call him ? And u are wiser than him ? You guys can complain it pains you when he makes progress and church expand .

samtol4:
Where you there when God call him ? And u are wiser than him ? You guys can complain it pains you when he makes progress and church expand .

And who told u God called him? You just assumed because the pastor told u abi? Paranoid bunch.

Wonderful church,my family and I joined this church two years ago,it's a church where they do not worship money,they are not tribalistic ,they teach you how to pray by yourself.im really enjoying the church not like my former church

Atleast you could think it,make it happen dude.Dont be a speculator who knows well what others should have done.

MrPresident1:
The man has a PhD in Molecular Genetics.

If I am him, I would devote my entire life to finding how stem cells can be created from living tissue, not from embryos, then use it as a basis for treating all kinds of illnesses and diseases.

9jahotblog:
yes.

They are very strong

MrPresident1:
The man has a PhD in Molecular Genetics.

If I am him, I would devote my entire life to finding how stem cells can be created from living tissue, not from embryos, then use it as a basis for treating all kinds of illnesses and diseases.

pls always try and study a person's life before commenting on issues abt d person..

Are you guys sure God called this people has claimed by them. You mean God called and Told him to Found a Church and Name it MFM and God called Oyedepo too and told him to found a church and Name it Winners then God called the RCCG founder too and told him to Found a church and Name it RCCG? Are u sure God did this.

Was this how churches in the bible were started or founded? You mean God will just appear to people in the dream or speak to them to Found a church with different doctrine and mode of worship different from one another?

jesusjnr:
Enemies die by fire church!

Antichrist doctrine!

Matthew 5:43-45 (KJV)

43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Okay okay
Listen and listen good listen open up every thing in mind and listen

You believe in Jesus right and watch him

Follow up closely

When you go to a factory company they present a mirror in front of you and they write a note on top of the mirror saying your safety depends on the person in the mirror

One encountered with Peter Matthew 16:13-19

Jesus Christ you serve stood among his disciples asking who he was
Peter replied - you are the Messiah
Jesus Christ Marvel happy he told Peter - surely my father told you this in such Peter on this rock I will build my church

Second encounter with Peter Matthew 16:22-23

Jesus said - I am going to die on the cross of Calvary
Peter came to Jesus comforting and strengthening Jesus saying - don't worry you won't die
Jesus Christ reply - you Satan I rebuke you . .. ..

Why did the same person who marvel at Peter for listening to His father now rebuke him for listening to Satan

The enemy just like the factory company his the man in the mirror the man looking at the mirror the man himself

In his road to achieve many of his goals and vision there are obstacles he has to overcome and this are anything that tends to stop him

As a son of God you are supposed to be like your father whom Jesus said only him he his good and as far you are his son or daughter you have to be good but you should be aware of your father enemy cause his enemy are your enemy if they hate your father they will hate anything that bears your father print

So when mfm says let my enemy die anything it clearly states that anything that pose a threat to achieving their vision let it cease to exist let it die

The enemy of all God children is Satan whom Jesus Christ you serve rebuke from the same Peter whom he marvel for listening to God his father

And a living soul whom want to achieve his quest there is no room for negotiations

Job 1:9-11,, Job 2:9
Go read on Job and his wife how Satan use a close one to try and dent Job to God

So when they open their mouth and call enemy die to capture the Wicked activities of enemy of godly men and expired the wicked activities of the unseen wicked being

John 13:26-27
Go read on Judas Iscariot how he left the room and Satan imputed thought to Judas Iscariot on how to capture Jesus

You should have just simply shown me a place where Jesus prayed for His enemies to fall and die, instead of all these tautology and flimsy excuses. Except y'all saying enemies didn't exist in His days and you are the only ones with them.

Anything to justify disobedience of His Words and man's inclination for vengeance.

Nexussy:
Okay okay
Listen and listen good listen open up every thing in mind and listen

You believe in Jesus right and watch him

Follow up closely

When you go to a factory company they present a mirror in front of you and they write a note on top of the mirror saying your safety depends on the person in the mirror

One encountered with Peter Matthew 16:13-19

Jesus Christ you serve stood among his disciples asking who he was
Peter replied you are the Messiah
Jesus Christ Marvel happy he told Peter surely my father told you this in such Peter on this rock I will build my church

Second encounter with Peter Matthew 16:22-23

Jesus said I am going to die on the cross of Calvary
Peter came to Jesus comforting and strengthening Jesus saying don't worry you won't die
Jesus Christ reply you Satan. . .. ..

Why did the person who commended Peter for listening to His father now rebuke him for listening to Satan

The enemy just like the factory company his the man himself and his vision his quest and his goal

In his road to achieve many of these there are obstacles he has to overcome and this are anything that tends to stop him

As a son of God you are supposed to be like your father whom Jesus said only him he his good and as far you are his son or daughter you have to be good but you should be aware of your father enemy cause his enemy are your enemy if they hate your father they will hate anything that bears your father print

So when mfm says let my enemy die anything that pose a threat to achieving their vision let it cease to exist let it die

Cos the enemy his the same Satan Jesus Christ you serve rebuke from the same Peter whom he commended for listening to God his father

And a living soul whom want to achieve his quest there is no room for negotiations

Job 1:9-11,, Job 2:9
Go read on Job and his wife how Satan use a close one to try and dent Job to God

So when they open their mouth and call enemy die to capture the Wicked activities of enemy of godly men and expired the wicked activities of the unseen wicked being

John 13:26-27
Go read on Judas Iscariot how he left the room and Satan imputed thought to Judas Iscariot on how to capture Jesus

jesusjnr:
You should have just simply shown me a place where Jesus prayed for His enemies to fall and die, instead of all these tautology and flimsy excuses. Except y'all saying enemies didn't exist in His days and you are the only ones with them.

Anything to justify disobedience of His Words and man's inclination for vengeance.

And if you have read closely you would have seen that the term abstain from blood shed on human or killing of fellow human wasn't among

Nexussy:
And if you have read closely you would have seen that the term abstain from blood shed on human or killing of fellow human wasn't among

And the term enemy of man was use

Amanda4life:
They are very strong

yes , you are correct.

MrPresident1:
The man has a PhD in Molecular Genetics.

If I am him, I would devote my entire life to finding how stem cells can be created from living tissue, not from embryos, then use it as a basis for treating all kinds of illnesses and diseases.

And what stops you from having that same qualification and using it to do what u just suggested.

jesusjnr:
You should have just simply shown me a place where Jesus prayed for His enemies to fall and die, instead of all these tautology and flimsy excuses. Except y'all saying enemies didn't exist in His days and you are the only ones with them.

Anything to justify disobedience of His Words and man's inclination for vengeance.

Jesus did not need to pray fall down and die as a command. but he commanded dryness to fig tree, sent demons out before their time and curse the scribe and Pharisees. Besides he is d saviour.. He healed so many sicknesses n raised d death.. d fall down n die prayers has also healed thousands of sicknesses n even bring millions of breakthrough through d holy spirit working. U show me how many people u av helped.. Stop condemning what u don't know anything about

katovest:
Jesus did not need to pray fall down and die as a command. but he commanded dryness to fig tree, sent demons out before their time and curse the scribe and Pharisees. Besides he is d saviour.. He healed so many sicknesses n raised d death.. d fall down n die prayers has also healed thousands of sicknesses n even bring millions of breakthrough through d holy spirit working. U show me how many people u av helped.. Stop condemning what u don't know anything about

Just chasing shadows trying to justify your Antichrist fall down and die prayer, with the example of Jesus, for if Jesus was had a destructive spirit like you, He would never be entrusted with such extent of power.

And there's no chance for you to be able to scratch the surface of what He was able to do with your fall down and die prayer, for there are many people who don't pray such antichrist prayer but have been entrusted with far more than you have and would be ever be able to do with such prayers.

Why? Because Jesus didn't come to destroy men's lives but to save them. But of course you have a contrary Spirit to His, so continue destroying with your destructive spirit.

As for me, don't worry for you'd soon be able to distinguish the difference.

RexTramadol1:
Such a person has a spirit that contradicts yours, that's why you have to cast and bind such spirits because spirits do not die.......




When such spirit leaves, you have helped the perceived enemy

where did you get all these lies from?
Certainly not from the bible but from the imaginations Dr D. K. Olukoya.

Questions you need to ask yourself before picking your bible to read :

1. At what point in the bible was Christianity as a religion founded?
2. Was there any Christian in the bible who was delivered from demon spirit?

I'm very sure Olukoya as never sat down in his life one day to ask himself these questions before infusing his diabolical beliefs of existence of demons among Christians. Otherwise , demon casting or deliverance should not be found in any church.
Remember, only Christians worshipped in churches, no Muslim is found worshiping in church

Now, I have just said something that require deep thinking to understand.
Before you quote me, think over it very deeply and understand where I'm coming from.

This is lovely holy spirit arrested u no ni To God be the Glory

ericsmith:
proudly MFM , i remember the 1st day my parent forced me to that church HQ.. i just sat on my car bonnet ...but is words where really making sense from afar.
Then it dawn me which book u know, which exposure or money you get sef ... if he is these educated,travelled abroad n exposed yet remains humorous & way too humble ... oga ade what ur excuse ;gD i bow 2007

jesusjnr:
Enemies die by fire church!

Antichrist doctrine!

Matthew 5:43-45 (KJV)

43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

In MFM we don't pray against the enemy, we do not attack an individual directly with prayers we only pray against the power and the spirit being that person not the person
So all these Bible you are quoting are just relatively useless.

jesusjnr:
Just chasing shadows trying to justify your Antichrist fall down and die prayer, with the example of Jesus, for if Jesus was had a destructive spirit like you, He would never be entrusted with such extent of power.

And there's no chance for you to be able to scratch the surface of what He was able to do with your fall down and die prayer, for there are many people who don't pray such antichrist prayer but have been entrusted with far more than you have and would be ever be able to do with such prayers.

Why? Because Jesus didn't come to destroy men's lives but to save them. But of course you have a contrary Spirit to His, so continue destroying with your destructive spirit.

As for me, don't worry for you'd soon be able to distinguish the difference.

d Antichrist fall and die prayers DT have brought more to Christ than ur own non Antichrist prayers. stop deceiving itself bro. Jesus's spirit is involved in our prayers n d end will really teach u sense u refused to learn.

katovest:
d Antichrist fall and die prayers DT have brought more to Christ than ur own non Antichrist prayers. stop deceiving itself bro. Jesus's spirit is involved in our prayers n d end will really teach u sense u refused to learn.

Lol!

Brought more to Christ or to your church buildings?

You really lack spiritual knowledge, because you equate more people being in those churches to being in Christ. That's why the churches are very full, yet wicked people are multiplying and increasing in the land.

Because the people coming to the church are not coming to Christ but to a church that appeases the desires of their flesh to destroy men lives, that's why they come but don't truly repent and turn from their wicked ways.

I'm sure that you think your Antichrist prayers also brought more to the church than Christ's prayers as well.

As I told you be patient, for you would soon see the difference.

jesusjnr:
Lol!

Brought more to Christ or to your church buildings?

You really lack spiritual knowledge, because you equate more people being in those churches to being in Christ. That's why the churches are very full, yet wicked people are multiplying and increasing in the land.

Because the people coming to the church are not coming to Christ but to a church that appeases the desires of their flesh to destroy men lives, that's why they come but don't truly repent and turn fromne their wicked ways.

I'm sure that you think your Antichrist prayers also brought more to the church than Christ's prayers as well.

As I told you be patient, for you would soon see the difference.

Self deception is ur bane.. u think people in mfm are there to destroy men. u are a liar. no liar will make impact... When I said brought many to Christ am not saying bring people to the church. Can u beat d no of people who have never believed in d power of God or confessed Christ doing DT through this man of God. Do u know how many occults who would not be interested in God DT have surrendered to Christ power through this man of God? U are clearly d one not knowledgeable here appeal more to d flesh because u clearly do no understand what u condemn because d scripture u quoted ( all of them are not relevant) as far as mfm is concerned. And u are here judging and ranting of what u don't know.. Our prayers is clearly nt Antichrist but antiantichrists. powers of darkness , Sicknesses, ocultic world, kingdoms of darkness dread d kind of fire those prayers emits...unlike u are a devil's advocate dressed in sheep clothing.defending demons, pitying wicked powers..

katovest:
Self deception is ur bane.. u think people in mfm are there to destroy men. u are a liar. no liar will make impact... When I said brought many to Christ am not saying bring people to the church. Can u beat d no of people who have never believed in d power of God or confessed Christ doing DT through this man of God. Do u know how many occults who would not be interested in God DT have surrendered to Christ power through this man of God? U are clearly d one not knowledgeable here appeal more to d flesh because u clearly do no understand what u condemn because d scripture u quoted ( all of them are not relevant) as far as mfm is concerned. And u are here judging and ranting of what u don't know.. Our prayers is clearly nt Antichrist but antiantichrists. powers of darkness , Sicknesses, ocultic world, kingdoms of darkness dread d kind of fire those prayers emits...unlike u are a devil's advocate dressed in sheep clothing.defending demons, pitying wicked powers..

Lol!

Calling me a liar for saying the truth about MFM?

The only way I would be a liar as you claim is if in MFM you don't pray the Antichrist prayer for your enemies to fall and die?

Because if you do, then you're the real liar!

Otherwise you tell me if the enemy you're praying to fall and die are spirits and not humans.

If you wish to continue in your Antichrist prayer, you can, but do not try to justify it by all means even with lies, for you'd only be deceiving yourself.

jesusjnr:
Lol!

Calling me a liar for saying the truth about MFM?

The only way I would be a liar as you claim is if in MFM you don't pray the Antichrist prayer for your enemies to fall and die?

Because if you do, then you're the real liar!

Otherwise you tell me if the enemy you're praying to fall and die are spirits and not humans.

If you wish to continue in your Antichrist prayer, you can, but do not try to justify it by all means even with lies, for you'd only be deceiving yourself.

Do u even know anything abt mfm? u just based ur arguments on empty assumptions and u prove so much point by judging.. Mfm say die in their prayers yes but d motive is deliverance to people who say it...They don't pray God to kill their enemies as u made it look like.. they take responsibility and ask d powers to die.. It is because they know the meaning of die.. unlike u.. anyways, no point wasting time discussing with a demon advocate. A man who pities powers of darkness needs pity.. U are d real Antichrist by ur judging a real man of God even after Christ ask u to judge not so that u won't be judged. U are saying mfm don't love physical enemies and quoting unrevelant scriptures DT is y u are a liar.. If u are here u av not read mfm bible study series.. 'Loving the unlovables' or Dr olukoya's teaching on brokenness, or listened to him many times on explanation on d prayer pattern of mfm or even study it effectiveness and its help to d body of Christ but rushing to look at d word die... just because ur flesh feels it cannot be God. God of heavens looks at intentions, motives and d spirit behind every act.. I know if ur intentions of condemning are pure God will sooner or later speak to u abt it but if not u are obviously fighting against d angel of d church n d consequences is not a now thing..

katovest:
Do u even know anything abt mfm? u just based ur arguments on empty assumptions and u prove so much point by judging.. Mfm say die in their prayers yes but d motive is deliverance to people who say it...They don't pray God to kill their enemies as u made it look like.. they take responsibility and ask d powers to die.. It is because they know the meaning of die.. unlike u.. anyways, no point wasting time discussing with a demon advocate. A man who pities powers of darkness needs pity.. U are d real Antichrist by ur judging a real man of God even after Christ ask u to judge not so that u won't be judged. U are saying mfm don't love physical enemies and quoting unrevelant scriptures DT is y u are a liar.. If u are here u av not read mfm bible study series.. 'Loving the unlovables' or Dr olukoya's teaching on brokenness, or listened to him many times on explanation on d prayer pattern of mfm or even study it effectiveness and its help to d body of Christ but rushing to look at d word die... just because ur flesh feels it cannot be God. God of heavens looks at intentions, motives and d spirit behind every act.. I know if ur intentions of condemning are pure God will sooner or later speak to u abt it but if not u are obviously fighting against d angel of d church n d consequences is not a now thing..

Lol! Continue looking for a way to justify your Antichrist' prayers and doctrines in vain.

Destroyers of men's lives!

Luke 9:55-56 (KJV)

55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

Jesus came to destroy the works of Satan not men's lives, and He did it more than anyone else without praying for His enemies to fall and die.

If He did, we would not be here today, laying claim to His Name.

jesusjnr:
Lol! Continue looking for a way to justify your Antichrist' prayers and doctrines in vain.

Destroyers of men's lives!

Luke 9:55-56 (KJV)

55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

Jesus came to destroy the works of Satan not men's lives, and He did it more than anyone else without praying for His enemies to fall and die.

If He did, we would not be here today, laying claim to His Name.

And how many of men lives Mfm prayers have destroyed? but Satan works were clearly destroyed u need to visit prayer city or international headquarters or many of d mfm churches to see, and hear how the prayers destroy so many of devils works. keep living in ur world of judgement. d end will justify d means. still quoting irrelevant scripture to always want to justify ur smear campaign. dt is y u can't make impact. A liar cant

katovest:
And how many of men lives Mfm prayers have destroyed? but Satan works were clearly destroyed u need to visit prayer city or international headquarters or many of d mfm churches to see, and hear how the prayers destroy so many of devils works. keep living in ur world of judgement. d end will justify d means. still quoting irrelevant scripture to always want to justify ur smear campaign. dt is y u can't make impact. A liar cant

In addition u must learn to be quiet when not knowledgeable enough on any matter.
unfortunately, U just read the bible like novel Jesus did not ask anything to die?.. A man by d tomb in gaderene.Demons had a conversation with Jesus, Have u come to destroy us before our time? Jesus had them to leave..Death is transition of spirit.. Jesus clearly made them die in d mad mans body. So if Jesus did not use d word die, we also should not use it ? Spiritual olodo..d real enemy of DT man was legion and Jesus clearly brought a separation (death of d spirit in DT man) . please d spirit gave d prayer pattern not to destroy men but to deliver men with countless deliverances by d raw manifestation of God's power as evidences...don't just read d bible by letters. it killeth . U can't make impact by not willing to learn and just judging. Anyways I pray u even make impact so DT u will know what it means to undermine another man's mininstry

katovest:
And how many of men lives Mfm prayers have destroyed? but Satan works were clearly destroyed u need to visit prayer city or international headquarters or many of d mfm churches to see, and hear how the prayers destroy so many of devils works. keep living in ur world of judgement. d end will justify d means. still quoting irrelevant scripture to always want to justify ur smear campaign. dt is y u can't make impact. A liar cant

Not surprised when with a destructive spirit keep defending such Antichrist doctrines and prayers of MFM.

As I said your choice to continue in the error, but trying to justify it to this extent has been dead on arrival.

jesusjnr:
Not surprised when with a destructive spirit keep defending such Antichrist doctrines and prayers of MFM.

As I said your choice to continue in the error, but trying to justify it to this extent has been dead on arrival.

Who is with a destructive spirit.. Me or u who did not understand something and doing everything to pull it down. As far as am concerned am not in error but u a judge. And d earlier u correct ur errors of not judging another man servant. D better for u..