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TheSuperNerd:
The fact you still dragging it shows you are uptight.

How petty of you to feel so because I don't agree with an irrelevant Rabiu angle being better.

RAMON, K.NWAKALI AND RABIU HAVE THE SAME STRUGGLES AND SLOW RISE TALE OF PROMISING STARLETS YET TO FULFILL THEIR POTENTIALS.

Ramon and Rabiu have DONE NOTHING OF SPECIAL NOTE in Euro soccer as far as football is concerned. Their careers have been non spectacular.
If Ramon's first La liga showings were so good then why did he struggle to remain at that level for years before his recent return this year? You cannot answer that... you evade so quietly.

Mister... don't make it sound here like Ramon was stellar all these years because he wasn't.

K.Nwakali struggles to rise after 3 years of pro soccer so far but his chances is not exhausted yet... time is still on his side.

Ramon have had basically 10 years of averageness and anonymity before his recent rejuvenation that I hope carries on.

They are similar tales of young lads who are taking time to truly bloom. This is why the Rabiu angle is irrelevant even though another good example... it is just extraneous note. Nothing more.

Joebie:
Sudan double-header AFCON U23 qualifier update

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Some overseas pros who have already arrived Abuja:

Sunday Faleye -- Center-Forward (FC Wacker, Austria 2nd tier)
Stephen Odey (Genk, Belgium)
Collins Nonso --DM (Olivereinse, Portugal 2nd tier)
Okechukwu Azubuike --DM (Baseksehir, Turkey 1st tier)
Blessing Olabiran --LW (Tombov, Russia 1st tier)

tbaba1234:
Smh, ..

tbaba1234:
Ramon has had a decent career that he can be proud of.

Joebie is correct that Rabiu and Nwakali make a better comparison. Great expectations but have so far failed to deliver.

TheSuperNerd:
And for the umpteenth time.... the reason for my epistles... I was not making a comparison but a basic analogy of two young lads with similar expectations placed on them when they started off... one in 2009 and the other in 2015 as the next big thing in Nigeria's midfield dept especially as Midfield anchormen/Midfield enforcers.

So far, both have failed to rise to the expectations.... only so far. This is not about who have had the better career because both have had average careers. One have only had it longer than the other who is younger. The comparison is unfair on Nwakali who is only 3 years in compared to Azeez's 8+ yrs of pro football.

This is about both players' failures to rise to expectations. On this, I go with this Ramon-Nwakali analogy especially as it concerns the DLP expectations I had on both.

So you agreeing with him does not change my stance. And it definitely doesn't make his angle right. I also have those who agree with me. So Sorry.

Joebie:

it's okay guy calm down.. and i'm not being petty.. just giving my opinions. some will agree with you, some will agree with me chekina (or however it's spelled)
good night and rest well

TheSuperNerd:
This is my morning. Already up for the day.

Well thank you for your opinions. And you have no idea how calm I am....

tbaba1234:
Smh, ..

jihday:
Lol, what? Not good enough?

Joebie:
ScoreNigeria reports that Kenneth Omeruo is out of Ukraine friendly.

“It is an important process I need to get done for me to continue to play in the Spanish La Liga and also concentrate more on my game. So, I will miss the match against Ukraine.
“All the same, I wish my team mates the best of luck in the match.”

Earthquake1:
Wow in what league?

charlesemeka85:
Oga the way you re making a case for him being loaned to a 3rd tier team insinuates that it's based on sentiment and pampering.

Let's call a spade a spade, even Abdul ajagun that I'm not a fan of has better career progression compared to that of Nwakali who showed more promise in age grade football.

For a young unpolished talented player out from Africa to any team in Europe the norm is starting him with the B side of the team where his adaptation and development will be monitored closely and if the player makes it to the first team of the club in half or 1 season interval that signifies that he is good.


Nwakali so far have failed even when arsenal loaned him to to Holland where he was expected to blossom in a season or two judging by his enormous talent and performance at the U17 world cup but he disappointed when he was tried in the Dutch top flight.

To make matters worst he flopped at Porto B team in the Portuguese 2nd tier which says it all.

Players like Azeez and others never had the luxury he had to showcase his talent in Europe but got where they re today out of hardwork, endurance and determination.

komekn:
Quote me get a screen shot of any of my posts and using that under pin your deduction.

We have one extreme here were majority take our Nigerian players and give them huge accolades and anyone that doesn't agree with this view is filled with HATE.

Humility017:
do you need a magician to tell you that....
to be blunt those players are not good enough...they should have not bother call most of them up instead allow them concentrate on making something out of their careers in Europe....


just imagine...the leagues they play for...

better we get this foreign born players capped and thereafter transfer them to the under 23..... as such we have true under 23 players coming from the ranks.

rather than have players who are close to their 30s parading as under 23 and still playing in lowly leagues in Europe....

charlesemeka85:
Oga the way you re making a case for him being loaned to a 3rd tier team insinuates that it's based on sentiment and pampering.

Let's call a spade a spade, even Abdul ajagun that I'm not a fan of has better career progression compared to that of Nwakali who showed more promise in age grade football.

For a young unpolished talented player out from Africa to any team in Europe the norm is starting him with the B side of the team where his adaptation and development will be monitored closely and if the player makes it to the first team of the club in half or 1 season interval that signifies that he is good.


Nwakali so far have failed even when arsenal loaned him to to Holland where he was expected to blossom in a season or two judging by his enormous talent and performance at the U17 world cup but he disappointed when he was tried in the Dutch top flight.

To make matters worst he flopped at Porto B team in the Portuguese 2nd tier which says it all.

Players like Azeez and others never had the luxury he had to showcase his talent in Europe but got where they re today out of hardwork, endurance and determination.

tbaba1234:
Ramon has had a decent career that he can be proud of.

Joebie is correct that Rabiu and Nwakali make a better comparison. Great expectations but have so far failed to deliver.

do4luv14:
cheiii bro you sure you know those names up there so?

Dont just comment for comments sake ,
you sure you know those names, or is it cause of tbaba1234 SMH comments?

Icon4s:
I think some times it is better for players to start off with relatively smaller name clubs and work very hard to gain attention from the bigger clubs. In recent years Nigerian players that were acquired by big name clubs after the U17 have ended up struggling. They never got to stay and develop in their parent clubs.

Kelechi Iheanacho - Man City
Chidi Nwakali - Man City
Musa Yahaya - Tottenham
Taiwo Awoniyi - Liverpool
Kelechi Nwakali - Arsenal
Chidera Eze - Porto

Now compare with:

Wilfred Ndidi - Genk
Victor Osimhen - Wolfsburg
Samuel Chukwueze - Villarreal

The later are the ones doing well in the national team today.

So when next that big club wants to sign any of our next set of cadet players we should remember these cases.

Humility017:
how I wish the greedy agents will remember or even see reason with your comments....

all they want is British pounds and so can fast track the signings of this young lads none of their business if this lads end up making no progress or struggling

Joebie:
if u looking for a player to compare with K.Nwakali, I would say Rabiu Ibrahim's career

Humility017:
how I wish the greedy agents will remember or even see reason with your comments....

all they want is British pounds and so can fast track the signings of this young lads none of their business if this lads end up making no progress or struggling

Icon4s:
Oga, nobody needs to get a screen shot to prove anything. Yes, a lot of people hip praises on Nigerian players here but that is normal. If you don't celebrate your own who will?

That is the same way the English Press and their fans hip praises on their own players.

Some of us have some times tried to tone down the praises but you go to extreme to talk down Nigerian players. Are you not the same person that repeatedly called Isaac Success a waste Pipe? Which screen shot do you need for that?

tbaba1234:
Iheanacho no gree move.. another frustrating season ahead

BascoVanVeli:
He can't move him self. You have to respect your contract as a professional. You can't just move at your own will.

komekn:
You can move but not with the money.

If he says he wants to tear up the contract under mutual agreement they can pay him a % and say bye bye. But it will be much less than what he signed for.

In this regard Leicester will cut thier losses forger any transfer fee and pay him a % of his wages. For instance they could pay him £2/3 million and its terminated mutually.

timay:
True.


Because even in those big teams, the locals in their academies even find it difficult to break through, let alone the foreigners

BascoVanVeli:
That still depends on the team and not Iheanacho

Icon4s:
And this is where I think the NFF needs to come in. They really need to closely monitor and regulate the activities of these players' agents.