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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:31pm On Sep 03, 2019
MVV Maastricht... that's the team.

To the extent a moniker called Maastricht walked in here and spilled praises on K.Nwakali and some tried to make it out as me behind the Maastricht moniker. Loll...


OMANBALA1:
Lets not forget that Nwakali's problems started after he was loaned out the second time....i have forgotten the name of the club he was first loaned to right after he signed for Arsenal but he was terrific.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Humility017(m): 12:35pm On Sep 03, 2019
Earthquake1:
Do you think it's easy to earn 70k doing nothing

The man has families you know
so going to a club where he will play weekly gonna stop him from earning some euros or pounds...?

the way the average man thinks...baffles me.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:35pm On Sep 03, 2019
It's alright Benji. It's okay. No need to use the word "dumb" aiit... they are entitled to see things the way they want to. You are right about my analogy choice having a particular premise. You get my point. But all the same please cool it down on the choice of language used on anyone who disagrees. Have a beautiful day Benji. smiley


benji93:
I don't know why you keep trying to convince this guys your analogy is a better one. They don't seem to understand that every analogy has a premise. They clearly are either dumb, or think your premise for that analogy doesn't work.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by benji93: 12:47pm On Sep 03, 2019
Alright, but as much as it's quite offensive to use such words, sugercoating words is not my thing. That was was why i gave an alternative.
TheSuperNerd:
It's alright Benji. It's okay. No need to use the word "dumb" aiit... they are entitled to see things the way they want to. You are right about my analogy choice having a particular premise. You get my point. But all the same please cool it down on the choice of language used on anyone who disagrees. Have a beautiful day Benji. smiley
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 12:50pm On Sep 03, 2019
Humility017:
so going to a club where he will play weekly gonna stop him from earning some euros or pounds...?

the way the average man thinks...baffles me.
That was sarcasm
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 12:54pm On Sep 03, 2019
benji93:
No, No, No, average at best, which kind decent career. The guy moved back and forth from Almeria B to the first term for 5 years or so. Do you understand what a decent career means?
This is not accurate. He fell out of favour for a short spell in 2015/2016 season but by February he was back to the first team.

He has had a decent career. 89 appearances in Liga 2. 46 appearances in La liga.

He started up in Almeria B as a youngster and got promoted fully to the first team in 2013-2014.

He played 30 La liga games that year. No games for Almeria B.
Next season, He was mainly on the bench and played 14 La liga games, No games for Almeria B
They got relegated and He fell out of favour in 2015/2016 and played for Almeria B till January. By Februar, He was back in the first team.

That is the only blip in his career.

For someone who has been mainly in the first and second divisions of a country like Spain, that is a decent career in my eyes.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 12:54pm On Sep 03, 2019
andrew444:
There is no age on loans as nobody is 2 old

Falcao ,higuain have all go on loans
He has to find a club and settle

Loans help nobody
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 1:00pm On Sep 03, 2019
Earthquake1:
He has to find a club and settle

Loans help nobody
He is playing in a club and thats okay

Loan helps a player but sitting on the bench is the only thing that help nobody.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 1:02pm On Sep 03, 2019
andrew444:
He is playing in a club and thats okay

Loan helps a player but sitting on the bench is the only thing that help nobody.
Loans are detrimental to a player's development

Ask the multitude of Chelsea loanees, or ask Omeruo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:13pm On Sep 03, 2019
All this one is story. @bolded... that explains it.

Benji is right. Ramon have had a pretty average career in all ramifications. Second tier football for so long for the most parts since 2009 U17. If his is decent then what should we call Ajagun's and Kayode's or even Omeruo's and Onazi's all from same set? Please... Ramon have had it average so far only that his average is still better than a few other averages in world football on the scale of averages.


tbaba1234:
This is not accurate. He fell out of favour for a short spell in 2015/2016 season but by February he was back to the first team.

He has had a decent career. 89 appearances in Liga 2. 46 appearances in La liga.

He started up in Almeria B as a youngster and got promoted fully to the first team in 2013-2014.

He played 30 La liga games that year. No games for Almeria B.
Next season, He was mainly on the bench and played 14 La liga games, No games for Almeria B
They got relegated and He fell out of favour in 2015/2016 and played for Almeria B till January. By Februar, He was back in the first team.

That is the only blip in his career.

For someone who has been mainly in the first and second divisions of a country like Spain, that is a decent career in my eyes.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 1:17pm On Sep 03, 2019
Earthquake1:
Loans are detrimental to a player's development

Ask the multitude of Chelsea loanees, or ask Omeruo
Omeruo case is different

Uche agbo never started playing first team football from loans unlike omeruo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:25pm On Sep 03, 2019
Eze receives first England U21 call-up
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 1:28pm On Sep 03, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Eze receives first England U21 call-up
bye bye bye
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 1:29pm On Sep 03, 2019
andrew444:
Omeruo case is different

Uche agbo never started playing first team football from loans unlike omeruo
The point is still the same

Loan deals is detrimental to a player's development, check Kennedy's loan deal at Getafe, his teammates are already established first team players
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Humility017(m): 1:29pm On Sep 03, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Eze receives first England U21 call-up
since Rohr and the other Imana are clueless on what to do....

this guy is miles ahead of several oldies invited for the under 23 match against Sudan
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:30pm On Sep 03, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Eze receives first England U21 call-up
Nigerians pondering if that would stop Eze from still getting to play for the Super Eagles....

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 1:35pm On Sep 03, 2019
Earthquake1:
The point is still the same

Loan deals is detrimental to a player's development, check Kennedy's loan deal at Getafe, his teammates are already established first team players
Kennedy teammates are establish first team players because lampard believe in them , Abraham have been going on loan also,if lampard didnt believe in him he would have gone on another loan, player wey good good abeg, kennedy no big pass getafe, and why dem go buy kennedy when e sabi get injury
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by benji93: 1:43pm On Sep 03, 2019
Why are you using the phrase "fell out of favour" as if the coaches choice of players is always because he doesn't like him-cos that's the general meaning of the word. Pleases stop undermining the fact that a player could have well been dropped cos he is out of form, or a better player took his place. I had to dig the archives because of you, just to be certain i am not arguing blindly. How can someone who was playing almost regularly subsequent to his promotion in 2013 be relegated suddenly to the bench for most of the 2014 season.So you were wrong by stating that his troubles only begain in the 2015/2016 season. What did he do to "fall out of favour". If you cannot present a solid argument on why he "fell out of favour" , then i am afraid we can only assume he lost form or blew hot and cold-alternating good and bad performances. And if the last case is true, i am afraid i can only describe his career as average. So if you can provide facts that suggests otherwise, the argument that "he was average at best" holds. 2nd division of any league is not good enough as far as i am concerned. The idea that the championship is better than the premier league of czech republic for example is a deduction, so don't use that argument. A coach should only call a player plying his trade in the 2nd division of spain if he cannot find a player in the premier division. Otherwise you gotta call a player if he is playing regularly in the Turkish league(especially top half) and give a player playing in the championship the benefit of doubt. The best thing is to actually test a player playing in the second division of the premier league against a player playing in the premier division of the slovakian league, instead of inviting them based on a comparision between the reputation of the premier leagues of the two countries.
tbaba1234:
This is not accurate. He fell out of favour for a short spell in 2015/2016 season but by February he was back to the first team.

He has had a decent career. 89 appearances in Liga 2. 46 appearances in La liga.

He started up in Almeria B as a youngster and got promoted fully to the first team in 2013-2014.

He played 30 La liga games that year. No games for Almeria B.
Next season, He was mainly on the bench and played 14 La liga games, No games for Almeria B
They got relegated and He fell out of favour in 2015/2016 and played for Almeria B till January. By Februar, He was back in the first team.

That is the only blip in his career.

For someone who has been mainly in the first and second divisions of a country like Spain, that is a decent career in my eyes.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:46pm On Sep 03, 2019
Una go gree? Do we need him when we have Nwakali jnr aka Nigerian xavi in the u23? cheesy

Ebere eze is one guy that I am very sure will play for the super eagles but he didn't do his case any good by playing for the England u20 of which I don't blame him for that because the pressure was much on him when he made it open he only wants to play for Nigeria.

The likes of ejaria, Eze and tomori will play for 9ja while Tammy's case seem dicey at the moment.
Humility017:
since Rohr and the other Imana are clueless on what to do....

this guy is miles ahead of several oldies invited for the under 23 match against Sudan
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:51pm On Sep 03, 2019
Bye bye to where? Una matter self tire person cheesy
maidaboi:
bye bye bye
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Humility017(m): 1:52pm On Sep 03, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Una go gree? Do we need him when we have Nwakali jnr aka Nigerian xavi in the u23? cheesy

Ebere eze is one guy that I am very sure will play for the super eagles but he didn't do his case any good by playing for the England u20 of which I don't blame him for that because the pressure was much on him when he made it open he only wants to play for Nigeria.

The likes of ejaria, Eze and tomori will play for 9ja while Tammy's case seem dicey at the moment.
some Nigerians have some bit of jealousy in them....and they don't like make progress...
those are the ones that would have raise the dust had it been he was invited to the under 23 set up or probably the noisy Nigerians are related to some of the mediocre players that the lad presence would have shut up.

Nigerians are just their own problem...sometimes I wonder how the national team would have been by now if not for Rohr....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 1:58pm On Sep 03, 2019
andrew444:
Kennedy teammates are establish first team players because lampard believe in them , Abraham have been going on loan also,if lampard didnt believe in him he would have gone on another loan, player wey good good abeg, kennedy no big pass getafe, and why dem go buy kennedy when e sabi get injury
Kennedy na talented player abeg, Getafe is a huge disappointment for his career
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 2:00pm On Sep 03, 2019
Exactly my brother, the bolded is one of the reason why I will never speak ill of Rohr. If not for Rohr the likes of chukwueze and co won't be in the super eagles till now with the excuse that they re not ripe yet for the super eagles and should climb the ladder through the u23. The likes of Aminu Umar, Babatunde and other junks still be paraded as super eagles players.

Eze's involvement with the English u21 doesn't stop him from turning out for us in the future. Career wise it's a good move for him to boast his footballing CV and profile. Eze's heart is in playing for Nigeria and nothing will stop that. I pray he joins an epl team in the January transfer as rumored
Humility017:
some Nigerians have some bit of jealousy in them....and they don't like make progress...
those are the ones that would have raise the dust had it been he was invited to the under 23 set up or probably the noisy Nigerians are related to some of the mediocre players that the lad presence would have shut up.

Nigerians are just their own problem...sometimes I wonder how the national team would have been by now if not for Rohr....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 2:03pm On Sep 03, 2019
Earthquake1:
Kennedy na talented player abeg, Getafe is a huge disappointment for his career
I said e sabi get injury

Why epl teams no see am collect for loan?

Getafe is okay for him, still better than the Newcastle he played last
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Humility017(m): 2:03pm On Sep 03, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Exactly my brother, the bolded is one of the reason why I will never speak ill of Rohr. If not for Rohr the likes of chukwueze and co won't be in the super eagles till now with the excuse that they re not ripe yet for the super eagles and should climb the ladder through the u23. The likes of Aminu Umar, Babatunde and other junks still be paraded as super eagles players.

Eze's involvement with the English u21 doesn't stop him from turning out for us in the future. Career wise it's a good move for him to boast his footballing CV and profile. Eze's heart is in playing for Nigeria and nothing will stop that. I pray he joins an epl team in the January transfer as rumored
and if he joins the epl team it will be more difficult getting him.....

you can swiftly get this guys prior they rise to stardom....
Rohr messed up on this big Time...

parading the likes of Joel Obi, Ogu and Agu was bad business......
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 2:04pm On Sep 03, 2019
andrew444:
I said e sabi get injury

Getafe is okay for him, still better than the Newcastle he played last
Getafe better than Newcastle?

I laugh grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 2:07pm On Sep 03, 2019
andrew444:
I said e sabi get injury

Why epl teams no see am collect for loan?

Getafe is okay for him, still better than the Newcastle he played last
Kennedy is good to play at the teams in mid and bottom half of EPL table

But which serious club will want him for only one year?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 2:09pm On Sep 03, 2019
Earthquake1:
Getafe better than Newcastle?

I laugh grin
You cant compare newcastle thats always fighting relegation and getafe that came 5th last season okay

Newcastle better than getafe in terms of salary wise and not football wise, do you watch spanish teams apart from barca? NO you dont ,but i do and i am in the position to tell you better, getafe fnished ahead of almighty sevilla that should tell you alot
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 2:12pm On Sep 03, 2019
Earthquake1:
Kennedy is good to play at the teams in mid and bottom half of EPL table

But which serious club will want him for only one year?
Which one year, make dem throw bid and chelsea go accept, must all deal be loan deal?

Didnt he impress at newcastle why didnt they purchase him? maybe he is not that talented as you have said, i dont know

Mario pasalic is spending a second loan season atlanta and will be playing champions league football, you cant tell me atlanta is not a serious club, i am sure you will also say those small epl teams are better than atlanta all in the name of the EPL
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 2:15pm On Sep 03, 2019
andrew444:
Which one year, make dem throw bid and chelsea go accept, must all deal be loan deal?

Didnt he impress at newcastle why didnt they purchase him? maybe he is not that talented as you have said, i dont know

Mario pasalic is spending a second loan season atlanta and will be playing champions league football, you cant tell me atlanta is not a serious club, i am sure you will also say those small epl teams are better than atlanta all in the name of the EPL
Do you know if Chelsea is interested in selling him?

Chelsea can terminate their contract with him if they don't want him let's know if he will lack suitors
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 2:16pm On Sep 03, 2019
I doubt that. England currently have attacking midfielders in their fold who re doing pretty well for them. The likes of lingard, mount, barkley and alli are still young and re highly rated in by the FA. Even folden is also in the mix.

The only player currently who stands a chance breaking into the 3 lions is Tammy abraham and this is the main reason why he believes he will more chance in the team because of the lack of upcoming English strikers. Aside Kane and Rashford England doesn't have anyother player in the striking department who looks promising as Tammy.

Also in the central defense position they are well fortified with the likes of maguire, takowsky, stones, gomes, Keane and newly invited Aston Villa defender. These aforementioned CBs are all ahead of tomori and if he weighs his options he stands a better chance with Nigeria in international football.

Humility017:
and if he joins the epl team it will be more difficult getting him.....

you can swiftly get this guys prior they rise to stardom....
Rohr messed up on this big Time...

parading the likes of Joel Obi, Ogu and Agu was bad business......
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 2:18pm On Sep 03, 2019
charlesemeka85:
I doubt that. England currently have attacking midfielders in their fold who re doing pretty well for them. The likes of lingard, mount, barkley and alli are still young and re highly rated in by the FA. Even folden is also in the mix.

The only player currently who stands a chance breaking into the 3 lions is Tammy abraham and this is the main reason why he believes he will more chance in the team because of the lack of upcoming English strikers. Aside Kane and Rashford England doesn't have anyother player in the striking department who looks promising as Tammy.

Also in the central defense position they are well fortified with the likes of maguire, takowsky, stones, gomes, Keane and newly invited Aston Villa defender. These aforementioned CBs are all ahead of tomori and if he weighs his options he stands a better chance with Nigeria in international football.
England also have Connor Coady and Dunk in defence
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