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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:53pm On Sep 03, 2019
edi287:
Nah. City can pass up on it. They practically have first refusal only with a fixed price tag.
Think Cesc Fabregas with Arsenal when he wanted to leave Barca or Eto with Madrid when he wanted to sign for Barca.
Leicester will alert City and ask if they want to activate the buy back clause. If they say no, Leicester will sell to another team and that will be the end of it.
Don't confuse sell on clause with buy back clause. I don't think City have a sell on clause.

I do not think it will work that way. This is not a first refusal offer but a fixed price to buy the player back. I think unless City agrees to terminate the buy back clause, it will be a component of the contract to sell, if not there would be no need for the clause in the first place.

Either way, it is not as easy as farming Nacho out of the club.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 12:03am On Sep 04, 2019
TheGoodJoe:

I do not think it will work that way. This is not a first refusal offer but a fixed price to buy the player back. I think unless City agrees to terminate the buy back clause, it will be a component of the contract to sell, if not there would be no need for the clause in the first place.

Either way, it is not as easy as farming Nacho out of the club.
The clause was there to secure a player with potential. The only reason Leicester haven't sold him is because they don't have a reasonable back up. Things might Chang come Jan
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 12:14am On Sep 04, 2019
Thank you.
Eze and Maja should be with the U23s

tbaba1234:
Rushing the kid??

Does your under 23 have a better offensive midfielder? Etebo plays in the same league, does he have better stats??

It is not by belief.. You can not keep ignoring a player and expect him to play for you.

Right now, Ebere is not tied so he does not need a switch.

Once he plays for the England under 21s, we have complicated the matter and he will need a switch.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:16am On Sep 04, 2019
edi287:
The clause was there to secure a player with potential. The only reason Leicester haven't sold him is because they don't have a reasonable back up. Things might Chang come Jan
Manchester City have not stopped believing Nacho's potential. If Leicester City felt they do not have a reasonable back up, Nacho would make the match day squads. They have chosen to accommodate the English boy, Demarai Gray by opting to give him games up to.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 12:30am On Sep 04, 2019
The squad for Euro 2020 should be announced before June 2020. Is Tammy saying he will refuse to be cap tied by England before then? I’m trying to understand his rationale. Why April 2020?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by WorldNotOurs: 1:06am On Sep 04, 2019
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 1:11am On Sep 04, 2019
Joebie:
The squad for Euro 2020 should be announced before June 2020. Is Tammy saying he will refuse to be cap tied by England before then? I’m trying to understand his rationale. Why April 2020?
He's trying to hold the two options as long as possible

It may backfire on him
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 1:43am On Sep 04, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Story. Is Daniel James physical? Did he not flourish in the Championship? Continue arguing what you do not know. Nacho has an impeccable history. His Preseason showed the fire is still there. Given a run in a fluid offensive system, he will flourish. All Nacho needs is the right amount of games in the right system and he will not fail.

Talking like if all the teams in the Championship are mechanics.

Norwich and Sheffield are playing okay without being physical and these are teams that did well in the championship.
What kind of mattress unable dey use. The thing must be very comfortable o, e dey make person dey sleep and dream gan. Wake up GoodJoe day don break.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:51am On Sep 04, 2019
The case with Ebere Eze is that if we lost him to England it would be because we were never serious about getting him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:52am On Sep 04, 2019
Or indirectly telling Southgate he would be patient for a call up until then.

Earthquake1:
He's trying to hold the two options as long as possible

It may backfire on him
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 4:24am On Sep 04, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Manchester City have not stopped believing Nacho's potential. If Leicester City felt they do not have a reasonable back up, Nacho would make the match day squads. They have chosen to accommodate the English boy, Demarai Gray by opting to give him games up to.
Oseeeee Man City sporting director
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chrisooblog: 4:54am On Sep 04, 2019
Taliban:
What kind of mattress unable dey use. The thing must be very comfortable o, e dey make person dey sleep and dream gan. Wake up GoodJoe day don break.
Guy lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m):
jihday:
Oseeeee Man City sporting director

If they did not believe in his talent, the buy back clause would not come up. Simple.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 6:39am On Sep 04, 2019
Joebie:
The case with Ebere Eze is that if we lost him to England it would be because we were never serious about getting him.
I mean I don't know what Rohr is thinking. No one can argue we lack creativity in midfield.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 6:54am On Sep 04, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Manchester City have not stopped believing Nacho's potential. If Leicester City felt they do not have a reasonable back up, Nacho would make the match day squads. They have chosen to accommodate the English boy, Demarai Gray by opting to give him games up to.
City do not need Nacho. The ship has sailed. I assure you they'll pass on that buy back clause. I mean, what's the point? It's not like they'll make a profit if they buy him back and sell to another club like Madrid did with Morata.
It's absolutely pointless. They have Aguero and G Jesus. No need for Nacho.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:31am On Sep 04, 2019
edi287:
I mean I don't know what Rohr is thinking. No one can argue we lack creativity in midfield.
the painful thing those who even work with him... as assistants don't even know what's happening... I bet they can read games too.
someone like me should be working with Rohr would have sell the idea of calling up Eberechi Eze to him since...

some of this coaches don't know it all..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 7:50am On Sep 04, 2019
Humility017:
the painful thing those who even work with him... as assistants don't even know what's happening... I bet they can read games too.
someone like me should be working with Rohr would have sell the idea of calling up Eberechi Eze to him since...

some of this coaches don't know it all..
His assistants are useless. Ive been saying that since.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by timay(m): 7:58am On Sep 04, 2019
Humility017:
the painful thing those who even work with him... as assistants don't even know what's happening... I bet they can read games too.
someone like me should be working with Rohr would have sell the idea of calling up Eberechi Eze to him since...

some of this coaches don't know it all..
Thank God for the first time, someone is not pinning it all on Rohr. because for crying out loud, this guy has done his best in terms of this aspect I inviting our best foreign born. He can't see everything and that is where the assistants should become in, and even the NFF Technical committee.
Those are all useless and they are only after where the next bribe will come from
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:09am On Sep 04, 2019
edi287:
City do not need Nacho. The ship has sailed. I assure you they'll pass on that buy back clause. I mean, what's the point? It's not like they'll make a profit if they buy him back and sell to another club like Madrid did with Morata.
It's absolutely pointless. They have Aguero and G Jesus. No need for Nacho.
I hope you know Manchester City bought Angelino back even though we have Zinchenko and Mendy? Manchester City activated the buy back clause this season.

I am not saying Manchester City needs Iheanacho or are going to buy him back. He is like a gamble. If by any chance Iheanacho hits the anticipated peak due to the assessed potential, he would be a huge bargain just like Angelino.

So, selling Iheanacho would not be easy as you want to make it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 8:11am On Sep 04, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Bros let's keep sentiment aside, coady is better than all the center halves we can boast of both capped and uncapped with tomori inclusive. Tomori is a greenhorn learning his trade and is yet to be tested in a full season of top flight football.

He only made Chelsea team this season because of the transfer ban if not he wouldn't have made Chelsea bench let alone seeing game time
Coady mostly plays in a back 3 Sha. I heard that's why he wasn't invited to the English NT.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:12am On Sep 04, 2019
timay:
Thank God for the first time, someone is not pinning it all on Rohr. because for crying out loud, this guy has done his best in terms of this aspect I inviting our best foreign born. He can't see everything and that is where the assistants should become in, and even the NFF Technical committee.
Those are all useless and they are only after where the next bribe will come from
So why are we paying Rohr a fortune if reading games is like rocket science? Keep in mind Rohr brought in foreign hands to help. That means he also brought in crap.

Now we need to pay him a fortune to train him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 8:16am On Sep 04, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
I hope you know Manchester City bought Angelino back even though we have Zinchenko and Mendy? Manchester City activated the buy back clause this season.

I am not saying Manchester City needs Iheanacho or are going to buy him back. He is like a gamble. If by any chance Iheanacho hits the anticipated peak due to the assessed potential, he would be a huge bargain just like Angelino.

So, selling Iheanacho would not be easy as you want to make it.
WE are talking 50m here...thats a big outlay regardless of how crazy the market is.
The thing is we don't know Rodgers plan for Nacho long term. He isn't going to bench Vardy anytime soon.
Would you spend 50m on a bench player when you have a WC striker and a very capable back up around? Let's not forget Sterling can play as a CF too.
It just doesn't add up. 50m is too much to gamble on - inflation or not.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:17am On Sep 04, 2019
timay:
Thank God for the first time, someone is not pinning it all on Rohr. because for crying out loud, this guy has done his best in terms of this aspect I inviting our best foreign born. He can't see everything and that is where the assistants should become in, and even the NFF Technical committee.
Those are all useless and they are only after where the next bribe will come from
watch how some will come engage me for always looking for ways to talk down indigenous coaches....

the truth is many working in our football management set up are there for kick backs and bribes....

many of indigenous coaches have corruption tags on them which I will likened to be fact....

who would have thought that Siasia and salisu yusuf... are cool bribe takers the former even fix matches....

just imagine...the set of coaches we're grooming even the referees are no where near Benin Rep referees...
we all know why...? Nigerian football officials have transparency issues....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:04am On Sep 04, 2019
edi287:
WE are talking 50m here...thats a big outlay regardless of how crazy the market is.
The thing is we don't know Rodgers plan for Nacho long term. He isn't going to bench Vardy anytime soon.
Would you spend 50m on a bench player when you have a WC striker and a very capable back up around? Let's not forget Sterling can play as a CF too.
It just doesn't add up. 50m is too much to gamble on - inflation or not.
That does not nullify the buy back clause. That is what I am saying. The buy back clause makes it difficult to just farm out Nacho because any buying club has to deal with it. Whether Nacho is playing or not does not cancel it. The clause is a security in case Nacho's career propels in the near future. City will want that security because they believe in his potential, not current status.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 9:10am On Sep 04, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
That does not nullify the buy back clause. That is what I am saying. The buy back clause makes it difficult to just farm out Nacho because any buying club has to deal with it. Whether Nacho is playing or not does not cancel it. The clause is a security in case Nacho's career propels in the near future. City will want that security because they believe in his potential, not current status.
The buy back clause is not one of the difficult clause in contracts

You are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill and make excuses for an unserious player
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 9:21am On Sep 04, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
That does not nullify the buy back clause. That is what I am saying. The buy back clause makes it difficult to just farm out Nacho because any buying club has to deal with it. Whether Nacho is playing or not does not cancel it. The clause is a security in case Nacho's career propels in the near future. City will want that security because they believe in his potential, not current status.
They really don't. City will definitely pass up on it at the moment. Thats the point I'm trying to make. They have no need to activate it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:31am On Sep 04, 2019
edi287:
They really don't. City will definitely pass up on it at the moment. Thats the point I'm trying to make. They have no need to activate it.
If City would pass it up as you are making it, it would not be put there in the first place.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:33am On Sep 04, 2019
Earthquake1:
The buy back clause is not one of the difficult clause in contracts

You are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill and make excuses for an unserious player
It is a mountain because it requires a club signing a player of huge potential and not getting returns for the true value if the player excels.

As I said, I believe it will take a club to accept the clause or City to drop it (which I do not see happening) for a transfer to sale through.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 9:37am On Sep 04, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
If City would pass it up as you are making it, it would not be put there in the first place.
They put in in case he fulfilled his potential. He clearly hasn't and City have moved on.
Clubs pass up on buy back clauses many times. Madrid did with Hermoso who had a buy back clause of less than 10m.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 9:38am On Sep 04, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
It is a mountain because it requires a club signing a player of huge potential and not getting returns for the true value if the player excels.

As I said, I believe it will take a club to accept the clause or City to drop it (which I do not see happening) for a transfer to sale through.
Let me get this straight - are you saying that if and when Leicester wants to sell Nacho, City would activate his buy back clause or what?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 9:40am On Sep 04, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
It is a mountain because it requires a club signing a player of huge potential and not getting returns for the true value if the player excels.

As I said, I believe it will take a club to accept the clause or City to drop it (which I do not see happening) for a transfer to sale through.
Very funny @ the bolded, he has had EPL 4 goals in the last 3 years

I don't think City cares about him and prospective buying clubs would be excited at getting him to a 50 million player valued again
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:52am On Sep 04, 2019
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