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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:36pm On Sep 04, 2019
Nonsense! Stop sobbing bro lolz. Rohr is doing a great job which is why the nff retained him. If that is not OK by u then go resurrect keshi or beg fifa to pardon siasia so they can apply for super eagles job again. Sentimental bullshit!
junnyjake:
Drab display that make the boys get dominated by teams like Madagascar and Burundi. Nonsense!!

Until he wins the AFCON, qualify us for the round of 16 at the WC, he'd have just equaled the best record of his predecessors.

Keshi selected the players he thought were best for the team and they delivered, let Rohr do thesame and deliver, else we're just wasting money on someone who's offering nothing different from what we can get locally.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 11:38pm On Sep 04, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Nonsense! Stop sobbing bro lolz. Rohr is doing a great job which is why the nff retained him. If that is not OK by u then go resurrect keshi or beg fifa to pardon siasia so they can apply for super eagles job again. Sentimental bullshit!
Cut it about resurrecting Keshi,He's already dead
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:39pm On Sep 04, 2019
Earthquake1:
grin

This is laughable, Rodgers that was supposed to believe in him and turn him into a prime Suarez?
The problem is that most of you do not pay attention and miss the point.

I have hammered it like a drum repeatedly. I want Nacho to work with Brendan Rodgers to improve as a player. It is not about playing time. I have said it over and over again. I want Nacho training under high intensity, week in week out. That is why I preferred Nacho in Leicester City camp than the AFCON.

After improving, he can seek playing time. If he gets the chance at Leicester City or else where.


“It’s been a fantastic pre-season. The players have worked ever so hard. I take my hat off to them, we’ve really pushed them to the limit in aspects of their fitness and tactical ideas but over the course of pre- season they’ve got their rewards and we’ve played a very good team and finished off with a very good win.".... Brendan Rodgers on Leicester City's preseason preparations.

The bolded is what I wanted for Nacho. That is why you can see me say he can make a move now. I hope he gets a run or a move to an offensive side to show what he has learnt. Unfortunately, I can write this a thousand times and lots of you will still not get it. Then write what you stated above.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:40pm On Sep 04, 2019
And after the world cup what happened? Don't you know scouts from club all over the world monitor players in competitions as huge as the world cup for recommendation to the various clubs they represent. Why didn't any recommend Babatunde the new jj to clubs from decent leagues instead he ran to a 2nd tier club in qatar of all places cheesy cheesy

Now he is currently in morroco. Abeg I knw follow una dey hype mediocrity
TheGoodJoe:

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:41pm On Sep 04, 2019
Okay my bad grin
Earthquake1:
Cut it about resurrecting Keshi,He's already dead
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:43pm On Sep 04, 2019
Don't u dare call me stupid!
junnyjake:
Don't be stupid.

I said he has done nothing new with the team, and you're asking me to go resurrect the dead to come back to coach the team, does that make any sense to you??

Did you see me make a case for any local coach to be hired?

If you think Rohr is the best we can get, then that very much tells me how much mediocrity you appreciate on a personal level.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:45pm On Sep 04, 2019
charlesemeka85:
And after the world cup what happened? Don't you know scouts from club all over the world monitor players in competitions as huge as the world cup for recommendation to the various clubs they represent. Why didn't any recommend Babatunde the new jj to clubs from decent leagues instead he ran to a 2nd tier club in qatar of all places cheesy cheesy

Now he is currently in morroco. Abeg I knw follow una dey hype mediocrity
After the World Cup, Keshi was in a repeated battle with the Nff and guess what, he gave Aluko a nod that period. It was not about just recommendation but Keshi was spot on tactically with Babatunde.

That was a big part of Keshi. He makes magic out of the ordinary. I can just imagine what would have happened if he had all these young players we have now.

Forget about the talk of hyping mediocrity you are saying. Babatunde was absolutely brilliant for us and at that time was a master stroke by Keshi whether you like it or not.

For you to argue shows you did not even watch him. Read the thread and see the remarks of different Nigerians from different parts of the Globe. They all can not be blind together.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:49pm On Sep 04, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Crap.

The reason Iheanacho is not getting game time is simple. Vardy has the monopoly in the striking role. Not because Iheanacho did not perform.

Lie small small. Do not let your hatred for Iheanacho consume your fairness in analysis.
And Vardy also tied his legs, reason why he couldn't perform when given the chance??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:49pm On Sep 04, 2019
Which solely signifies that you are racist and sentimental as well. Do you know how much I wanted keshi to take over the super eagles coaching job after lagerback left?

I'm not the type who is blinded by mere sentiment but a blunt fellow who hint of the truth always and say things the way they are. Keshi was a fraud hooooooha!
junnyjake:
Certainly not someone who'd be found kissing a mediocre coach's ãss because of his skin color.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:50pm On Sep 04, 2019
junnyjake:
And Vardy also tied his legs, reason why he couldn't perform when given the chance??
I just stated not too long that under Brendan Rodgers, who plays a system that suits Nacho, Nacho has not gotten good playing time to prove himself. The few minutes he got, Nacho proved himself.

Now read what you wrote. Na wa.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:53pm On Sep 04, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Which solely signifies that you are racist and sentimental as well. Do you know how much I wanted keshi to take over the super eagles coaching job after lagerback left?

I'm not the type who is blinded by mere sentiment but a blunt fellow who hint of the truth always and say things the way they are. Keshi was a fraud hooooooha!
Keshi was no fraud. He delivered for us despite the challenges he faced from the NFF. Being owed salaries for months while his pretty wife was fighting for her life. Yet he turned out regularly, scouting and training young men to be better for their country.

The man was a true hero and in his words, "You talk of Super Eagles. I am Super Eagles."

Respect the greats.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1:
TheGoodJoe:
The problem is that most of you do not pay attention and miss the point.

I have hammered it like a drum repeatedly. I want Nacho to work with Brendan Rodgers to improve as a player. It is not about playing time. I have said it over and over again. I want Nacho training under high intensity, week in week out. That is why I preferred Nacho in Leicester City camp than the AFCON.

After improving, he can seek playing time. If he gets the chance at Leicester City or else where.


“It’s been a fantastic pre-season. The players have worked ever so hard. I take my hat off to them, we’ve really pushed them to the limit in aspects of their fitness and tactical ideas but over the course of pre- season they’ve got their rewards and we’ve played a very good team and finished off with a very good win.".... Brendan Rodgers on Leicester City's preseason preparations.

The bolded is what I wanted for Nacho. That is why you can see me say he can make a move now. I hope he gets a run or a move to an offensive side to show what he has learnt. Unfortunately, I can write this a thousand times and lots of you will still not get it. Then write what you stated above.
Dude stop bringing out quotes, you did it last season

Somebody that should be a first team regular you are still bringing out quotes to justify his failure
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:57pm On Sep 04, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Nonsense! Stop sobbing bro lolz. Rohr is doing a great job which is why the nff retained him. If that is not OK by u then go resurrect keshi or beg fifa to pardon siasia so they can apply for super eagles job again. Sentimental bullshit!
I should believe he's doing a great job because you say so?? You're such a joker.

The fact remains, he has done nothing out of the ordinary so far.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:58pm On Sep 04, 2019
And what was the cause of the cold war between the 2 parties? How many times was keshi called to order by the football house because of his over reliance on junks at the expensed of more deserving players doing well in Europe week in week out?

What is your excuse for taking a Gabriel reuben who couldn't make the team of Scottish side Kilmarnock all season long but made it to the world cup?


What is your excuse for taking a Heereveen B player in by he person of nwofor to the world cup when we had an Obafemi Martins and Ike Uche doing well in LA Liga then?

What is your excuse for taking an Uzoenyi who couldn't cut it in France and returned to the local league at the expense of Sone aluko who was doing very well for Hull in the championship?

What is your excuse for ignoring Taiye taiwo who was our best left back in Europe then and doing very well in the colors of Ukraine giants dynamo Moscow at the expense of oshaniwa?

What about the case of Uchebo and young dynamite then Imoh who scored for fun in the same Belgian league where the former flopped all season? Even Imoh was playing for a more reputable and respected team in Belgian football which is standard liege while Uchebo flopped in lowly rated cercle brugge at the same season prior to the world cup

Make una forget this topic abeg.
TheGoodJoe:
After the World Cup, Keshi was in a repeated battle with the Nff and guess what, he gave Aluko a nod that period. It was not about just recommendation but Keshi was spot on tactically with Babatunde.

That was a big part of Keshi. He makes magic out of the ordinary. I can just imagine what would have happened if he had all these young players we have now.

Forget about the talk of hyping mediocrity you are saying. Babatunde was absolutely brilliant for us and at that time was a master stroke by Keshi whether you like it or not.

For you to argue shows you did not even watch him. Read the thread and see the remarks of different Nigerians from different parts of the Globe. They all can not be blind together.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:59pm On Sep 04, 2019
Earthquake1:
Dude stop bringing out quotes you did it last season
I do not understand what you are typing. Are you saying this quote is from last season or what? If not, I am pointing out that what I wanted was achieved.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 12:00am On Sep 05, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Don't u dare call me stupid!
I won't do that.

I'm only cautioning you against being one, if you were considering it before now.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by benji93: 12:02am On Sep 05, 2019
I consider Velverde tactless cos he allowed the same fate befall him in 2 successive champions league seasons against Roma and against Liverpool.
When a solid team is playing at home, their will could surmount the superior talent of their opponents.Their are numerous instances of this. What did stoke have a reputation for? The fact that a promising/solid Turkish side beat France at home is not an excuse, it's the reality, it's a possibility. Teams play a lot better at home. But the world cup is a neutral Turf. Another good example of the will teams can muster at home was the performance Russia posted at home in the 2018 world cup. They made it through to the quarter-finals, losing narrowly to croatia an eventual finalist. Plus Kante didn't play against Turkey.
On your last point, i was mistaken, i am taking it back- They were the first to qualify, but they finished 6 points behind Senegal in the end- that was what i looked at. And you don't have to believe anything i say even if i am right once, each argument should correspond with it's own analysis.
charlesemeka85:
Velverde is not a good coach because he has the luxury of having Messi in his team? Well that means Enrique and Guardiola are not good coaches as well.


The Turkish team is on a rebuilding process which consist of young and hungry unknown players but is that enough excuse for a whole world champions France to lose to them by 2 goals to nil?
A French team that boast of pogba, varane, mbape, greizmann, Kane just to mention a few?

Visit Google to make the findings by yourself if Madagascar wasn't the first team to qualify to the just concluded afcon even with a match to spare. If I'm wrong I will from this day believe anything you put out here without argument or disagreement
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 12:03am On Sep 05, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
I do not understand what you are typing. Are you saying this quote is from last season or what? If not, I am pointing out that what I wanted was achieved.
You said last season 'he will excel in Rodgers system' and brought out quotes why Rodgers is the best coach in the whole world

This season you are still bringing out quotes to justify why he can't even make matchday squad. Maybe Rodgers doesn't want him to excel in his system grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 12:03am On Sep 05, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Which solely signifies that you are racist and sentimental as well. Do you know how much I wanted keshi to take over the super eagles coaching job after lagerback left?

I'm not the type who is blinded by mere sentiment but a blunt fellow who hint of the truth always and say things the way they are. Keshi was a fraud hooooooha!
Yeah, I'm racist for refusing to take less than I deserve.

Keshi was a fraud right? Well he's achieved what your white lord has failed to achieve throughout his career on the continent.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:05am On Sep 05, 2019
charlesemeka85:
And what was the cause of the cold war between the 2 parties? How many times was keshi called to order by the football house because of his over reliance on junks at the expensed of more deserving players doing well in Europe week in week out?

What is your excuse for taking a Gabriel reuben who couldn't make the team of Scottish side Kilmarnock all season long but made it to the world cup?


What is your excuse for taking a Heereveen B player in by he person of nwofor to the world cup when we had an Obafemi Martins and Ike Uche doing well in LA Liga then?

What is your excuse for taking an Uzoenyi who couldn't cut it in France and returned to the local league at the expense of Sone aluko who was doing very well for Hull in the championship?

What is your excuse for ignoring Taiye taiwo who was our best left back in Europe then and doing very well in the colors of Ukraine giants dynamo Moscow at the expense of oshaniwa?

What about the case of Uchebo and young dynamite then Imoh who scored for fun in the same Belgian league where the former flopped all season? Even Imoh was playing for a more reputable and respected team in Belgian football which is standard liege while Uchebo flopped in lowly rated cercle brugge at the same season prior to the world cup

Make una forget this topic abeg.
The excuse is why an unknown Aaron Samuel became the toast of the media after being tagged chinko product earlier.

The excuse was how he used an unknown Mba to become the toast of the media after he was influential in us carrying the Afcon after years of a drought.

The same Uzoenyi was by miles the best player at the CHAN.

The excuse was how he took a Shola Ameobi rottening on the bench in Newcastle to pull off a man of the match performance against Italy.

The excuse was taking a young Omeruo to become one of the best defenders at the Afcon.

The excuse was how he took a so called mediocre Egwueke to play as a single defender to shield the back while we went on an all out attack on South Africa and Egwueke delivered.

There is a host of things Keshi did splendid to insult him. That was Keshi. He was a specialist of finding the diamonds in gems.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 12:06am On Sep 05, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
I just stated not too long that under Brendan Rodgers, who plays a system that suits Nacho, Nacho has not gotten good playing time to prove himself. The few minutes he got, Nacho proved himself.

Now read what you wrote. Na wa.
Nacho proved himself with the few minutes he got under Rodgers?? Bring out stats to support this claim.

You keep bringing up excuses daily for his failure, I pray he isn't doing same else he's fast tracking his ride further down into obscurity.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:06am On Sep 05, 2019
Do you know how much salary the nff is currently owing Rohr?
TheGoodJoe:
Keshi was no fraud. He delivered for us despite the challenges he faced from the NFF. Being owed salaries for months while his pretty wife was fighting for her life. Yet he turned out regularly, scouting and training young men to be better for their country.

The man was a true hero and in his words, "You talk of Super Eagles. I am Super Eagles."

Respect the greats.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:08am On Sep 05, 2019
cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy u funny pass Kevin hart
TheGoodJoe:
The excuse is why an unknown Aaron Samuel became the toast of the media after being tagged chinko product earlier.

The excuse was how he used an unknown Mba to become the toast of the media after he was influential in us carrying the Afcon after years of a drought.

The same Uzoenyi was by miles the best player at the CHAN.

The excuse was how he took a Shola Ameobi rottening on the bench in Newcastle to pull off a man of the match performance against Italy.

The excuse was taking a young Omeruo to become one of the best defenders at the Afcon.

The excuse was how he took a so called mediocre Egwueke to play as a single defender to shield the back while we went on an all out attack on South Africa and Egwueke delivered.

There is a host of things Keshi did splendid to insult him. That was Keshi. He was a specialist of finding the diamonds in gems.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 12:10am On Sep 05, 2019
benji93:
I consider Velverde tactless cos he allowed the same fate befall him in 2 successive champions league seasons against Roma and against Liverpool.
When a solid team is playing at home, their will could surmount the superior talent of their opponents.Their are numerous instances of this. What did stoke have a reputation for? The fact that a promising/solid Turkish side beat France at home is not an excuse, it's the reality, it's a possibility. Teams play a lot better at home. But the world cup is a neutral Turf. Another good example of the will teams can muster at home was the performance Russia posted at home in the 2018 world cup. They made it through to the quarter-finals, losing narrowly to croatia an eventual finalist. Plus Kante didn't play against Turkey.
On your last point, i was mistaken- They were the first to qualify, but they finished 6 points behind Senegal in the end- that was what i looked at. And you don't have to believe anything i say even if i am right once, each argument should correspond with it's own analysis.
Don't talk too much, bring out FIFA rankings for both scenarios.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:10am On Sep 05, 2019
Earthquake1:
You said last season 'he will excel in Rodgers system' and brought out quotes why Rodgers is the best coach in the whole world

This season you are still bringing out quotes to justify why he can't even make matchday squad. Maybe Rodgers doesn't want him to excel in his system grin
As I said, I can write a thousand times but at the end, you will still make off point statements.

Let me help you. I said Nacho will excel in Rodgers system but it is not about playing time. I hammered on it because I foresaw the challenges. I brought out quotes to show why the system will favor Nacho but I was more interested in Nacho improving as a player. I knew playing time will come hard but improvement was a certainty which is the priority.

During the preseason, the impact was clear to see. Nacho showed improvement especially tactically. Now the idea is to get playing time, Either by Rodgers or elsewhere. What matters is that when he gets a chance in an offensive system, he will excel.

This is not different from what I said even before Rodgers signed him.

At the end, you will still not comprehend all I wrote and then I wonder, what is the need spending time trying to orient.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:11am On Sep 05, 2019
For you to accept less for not qualifying for back to back afcon then you deserve less grin
junnyjake:
Yeah, I'm racist for refusing to take less than I deserve.

Keshi was a fraud right? Well he's achieved what your white lord has failed to achieve throughout his career on the continent.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:12am On Sep 05, 2019
charlesemeka85:
cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy u funny pass Kevin hart
You have a point? Saying Keshi did not call big name players or called mediocre players shows you missed the magic of Keshi. Just as many blind at the NFF.

Keshi was a symbol of creativity and devotion to make the most of the little he had. He was a true blessing. If he was white, most of you would hsve written his name on a gold slate.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by benji93: 12:13am On Sep 05, 2019
There was another story that he was retained cos there was a 1 million dollar clause in his contract in the case of dismissal. Where will Nff get this from if they fire him? Unless ofcourse this is not true, i stick to it hehehehe.
charlesemeka85:
Nonsense! Stop sobbing bro lolz. Rohr is doing a great job which is why the nff retained him. If that is not OK by u then go resurrect keshi or beg fifa to pardon siasia so they can apply for super eagles job again. Sentimental bullshit!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 12:13am On Sep 05, 2019
charlesemeka85:
For you to accept less for not qualifying for back to back afcon then you deserve less grin
Why do you think we failed to qualify on those occasions??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:14am On Sep 05, 2019
junnyjake:
Nacho proved himself with the few minutes he got under Rodgers?? Bring out stats to support this claim.

You keep bringing up excuses daily for his failure, I pray he isn't doing same else he's fast tracking his ride further down into obscurity.
You see. I clearly pointed preseason which was the few minutes he got and he delivered. Yet you are asking for stats for something that is crystal clear.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 12:14am On Sep 05, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
You have a point? Saying Keshi did not call big name players or called mediocre players shows you missed the magic of Keshi. Just as many blind at the NFF.

Keshi was a symbol of creativity and devotion to make the most of the little he had. He was a true blessing. If he was white, most of you would hsve written his name on a gold slate.
He gon call you racist now
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 12:16am On Sep 05, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
You see. I clearly pointed preseason which was the few minutes he got and he delivered. Yet you are asking for stats for something that is crystal clear.
Pre-season?? Mchtewwwww!!

Has there been a time Nacho failed to perform in pre-season games??
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