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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:18am On Sep 05, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Do you know how much salary the nff is currently owing Rohr?
Do you know that there is an Memorandum Of Understanding with Aiteo group to pay Rohr regularly as part of their Corporate Social Responsibility?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:19am On Sep 05, 2019
junnyjake:
Pre-season?? Mchtewwwww!!

Has there been a time Nacho failed to perform in pre-season games??
Under Rodgers was my point. The few times he got the run, he excelled.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 12:21am On Sep 05, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Under Rodgers was my point. The few times he got the run, he excelled.

Finito.
Under Rodgers or whoever, he's always been good in preseason and cup games, ask him to replicate it in the League, the story changes.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1:
TheGoodJoe:
As I said, I can write a thousand times but at the end, you will still make off point statements.

Let me help you. I said Nacho will excel in Rodgers system but it is not about playing time. I hammered on it because I foresaw the challenges. I brought out quotes to show why the system will favor Nacho but I was more interested in Nacho improving as a player. I knew playing time will come hard but improvement was a certainty which is the priority.

During the preseason, the impact was clear to see. Nacho showed improvement especially tactically. Now the idea is to get playing time, Either by Rodgers or elsewhere. What matters is that when he gets a chance in an offensive system, he will excel.

This is not different from what I said even before Rodgers signed him.

At the end, you will still not comprehend all I wrote and then I wonder, what is the need spending time trying to orient.
I stopped reading after this

Goodnight
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:25am On Sep 05, 2019
junnyjake:
Under Rodgers or whoever, he's always been good in preseason and cup games, ask him to replicate it in the League, the story changes.
Story does not change. Even Vardy found it hard under Puel but looks transformed under Rodgers.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:26am On Sep 05, 2019
Earthquake1:
I stopped reading after this

Goodnight
Good night. I already noted you actually do not read at all but just argue. That is why a lot of times, you take me back in my post by typing something that is off the point. Goodnight.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:28am On Sep 05, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Leave that thing. Your own is pure hatred. You might pretend and deceive yourself about it, but it is true. You hate Iheanacho with a passion. Yet make excuses for other players like Iorfa that Mendes Cartel dropped him. If it was Iheanacho you would write Abysmal and no goals.
You are now muddying the waters and completely deviating from the topic in discussion. Which is simply the very poor performance of KC.

What does Iorfa have to do with the performance or rather failings of KC.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 12:57am On Sep 05, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Story does not change. Even Vardy found it hard under Puel but looks transformed under Rodgers.
But he still got goals and what has Vardy got to do with this?

Reason why I don't fancy going into arguments with you is that at the end of the day, irrespective of the facts presented by the other party you'd always run along with the opinion that makes you feel comfortable the most.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:06am On Sep 05, 2019
Ovie grin my 2nd son

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:13am On Sep 05, 2019
junnyjake:
But he still got goals and what has Vardy got to do with this?

Reason why I don't fancy going into arguments with you is that at the end of the day, irrespective of the facts presented by the other party you'd always run along with the opinion that makes you feel comfortable the most.
The point is simple.

Under Puel and Shakespeare, the system did not suit Nacho and Vardy. Under the current system, Vardy is excelling and I believe Nacho will too.

I did not beg you to fancy arguing with me.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:14am On Sep 05, 2019
komekn:
You are now muddying the waters and completely deviating from the topic in discussion. Which is simply the very poor performance of KC.

What does Iorfa have to do with the performance or rather failings of KC.
Iorfa was harshly treated by his club but you chose to still point he was a good player. If that was Nacho, you would have said it was because he was performing poorly.

This is due to your bias and hatred for Nacho.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 1:23am On Sep 05, 2019
I sincerely don't know why Nacho is trending on this thread grin

Modified
Like he's barely been on the bench. At least if it's new revelation Paul Mukairu, I will understand.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 1:27am On Sep 05, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Velverde is not a good coach because he has the luxury of having Messi in his team? Well that means Enrique and Guardiola are not good coaches as well.

The Turkish team is on a rebuilding process which consist of young and hungry unknown players but is that enough excuse for a whole world champions France to lose to them by 2 goals to nil?
A French team that boast of pogba, varane, mbape, greizmann, Kante just to mention a few?

Visit Google to make the findings by yourself if Madagascar wasn't the first team to qualify to the just concluded afcon even with a match to spare. If I'm wrong I will from this day believe anything you put out here without argument or disagreement
Velverde is the Spanish David Moyes

EOD
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 1:39am On Sep 05, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
When Aluko was at Rangers, Keshi chose to put fate in Mba and he delivered in a big way. You brought up Rangers. I explained why. No you are twisting the plot points.

As for Babatunde. If Aluko had gone instead of Michael, he would not have started the first leg. If he got a chance, it would have been the same chance Babatunde got. When Babatunde got the chance, he was absolutely brilliant. I was one of those on the Aluko cheering team but agreed Keshi was right in the call for Michael Babatunde.
Remember this when you criticise Rohr for calling up players other than those you think are performing better
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 1:45am On Sep 05, 2019
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 1:54am On Sep 05, 2019
komekn:
You are now muddying the waters and completely deviating from the topic in discussion. Which is simply the very poor performance of KC.

What does Iorfa have to do with the performance or rather failings of KC.
He said you hate iheanacho and that is the fact, yes we all know nacho is not doing well but as for you, you no like the boy because no b one of those your English naija players
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 1:55am On Sep 05, 2019
Joebie:
I sincerely don't know why Nacho is trending on this thread grin

Modified
Like he's barely been on the bench. At least if it's new revelation Paul Mukairu, I will understand.
At least you value players from turkish league unlike others

Lets see what mukairu got to offer
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 3:34am On Sep 05, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Ovie grin my 2nd son
Serious baller.. 9ja is messing up..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 4:18am On Sep 05, 2019
A player has to at least do something to trend -- not as a result of inactivity.

andrew444:
At least you value players from turkish league unlike others

Lets see what mukairu got to offer
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 4:21am On Sep 05, 2019
Joebie:
A player has to at least do something to trend -- not as a result of inactivity.
Agreed
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 4:23am On Sep 05, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Crap.

The reason Iheanacho is not getting game time is simple. Vardy has the monopoly in the striking role. Not because Iheanacho did not perform.

Lie small small. Do not let your hatred for Iheanacho consume your fairness in analysis.
It's still the same thing, he's not good enough to bench Vardy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 4:26am On Sep 05, 2019
charlesemeka85:
I disagree with you on Uzoenyi. Keshi went for unknown players mainly from the local league whom he benefited from their moves to obscure leagues in Europe. This is known fact.

[b]Uzoenyi who couldn't play for Rennes first team in Europe [/b]made the afcon and world cup team at the expense of Aluko who did very well in Scotland and the English 2nd tier then
are you kidding me? He was so bad at Mamelodi sundowns that they wondered how he ever played for us
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 4:27am On Sep 05, 2019
He will br drafted in soon
tbaba1234:
Serious baller.. 9ja is messing up..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 4:28am On Sep 05, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
I am one who has put in thought into this and let us get one thing.

The management of Leicester City are not going to bench Vardy, even during games Vardy is not doing well. The only way Vardy loses his place is fatigue or injury. With that, Iheanacho who is a replacement for Vardy occupies a place on the bench where he will not be used. So they have decided to leave him out until they feel there is need to give Vardy a break. For now, if Vardy is performing well or not, he plays 90mins, thus Nacho is not needed for now.

It has nothing to do with Nacho not performing as the Haters want people to believe.

Finito.
If I'm a sport man I won't love to have someone like you around me, because you'll never tell me I should buckle up as my performances have dropped.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 4:35am On Sep 05, 2019
junnyjake:
Drab display that make the boys get dominated by teams like Madagascar and Burundi. Nonsense!!

Until he wins the AFCON, qualify us for the round of 16 at the WC, he'd have just equaled the best record of his predecessors.

Keshi selected the players he thought were best for the team and they delivered, let Rohr do thesame and deliver, else we're just wasting money on someone who's offering nothing different from what we can get locally.
good points, I think we should just go for Fatai Amoo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 4:38am On Sep 05, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
I just stated not too long that under Brendan Rodgers, who plays a system that suits Nacho, Nacho has not gotten good playing time to prove himself. The few minutes he got, Nacho proved himself.

Now read what you wrote. Na wa.
When and where? Please don't mention preseason where he scored against the almighty Cambridge United
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody:
Keshi won the nations cup but did not leave a good foundation for the team. Many of Keshi's players are nowhere to be found. This is partly why we struggled after 2013 and failed to qualify for 2 consecutive nations cups.

Agbim, Egwuekwe, Uzoenyi, Oboabana, Mba, rueben Gabriel, Oshaniwa, Odunlami, Uchebo and Nwofor are nowhere to be found.

Just 5 years after the WC and all of these guys have disappeared. We laid no foundation for the super eagles.

In my opinion, Rohr is raising a team that will stand the test of time. And Rohr might not even be the coach to benefit from this team.

So far, he has achieved every goal expected of him without playing the exciting football that we want to see.

When we look back at Rohr's era, we will appreciate the players he brought in.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:33am On Sep 05, 2019
Earthquake1:
Remember this when you criticise Rohr for calling up players other than those you think are performing better
How many times have I criticised Rohr on his selections? Apart from the keeper choices, I do not go gung-ho on selections. My main criticism has been his lack of invention and bravery in games.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:41am On Sep 05, 2019
tbaba1234:
Keshi won the nations cup but did not leave a good foundation for the team. Many of Keshi's players are nowhere to be found. This is partly why we struggled after 2013 and failed to qualify for 2 consecutive nations cups.

Agbim, Egwuekwe, Uzoenyi, Oboabana, Mba, rueben Gabriel, Oshaniwa, Odunlami, Uchebo and Nwofor are nowhere to be found.

Just 5 years after the WC and all of these guys have disappeared. We laid no foundation for the super eagles.

In my opinion, Rohr is raising a team that will stand the test of time. And Rohr might not even be the coach to benefit from this team.

So far, he has achieved every goal expected of him without playing the exciting football that we want to see.

When we look back at Rohr's era, we will appreciate the players he brought in.
Rohr is benefitting from the work put down by Maigari in the context of rebuilding the Super Eagles where he insisted on us not cutting corners and laying a foundation from the youth teams. When Keshi came in, he was under fire to deliver results with us having few quality performing in Europe.

Most of the players Keshi was criticised of not calling are no where to befound now too.

Lots of the players Rohr has used where called up to the National team before his arrival. Lots from the youth teams.

Rohr benefitted from the foundation laid which Keshi did not have.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Humility017(m): 6:52am On Sep 05, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Ovie grin my 2nd son
I don't know why the NFF is so slow in wooing this guy....
entice him with the national team call ups...

like this Ukraine match he should have been invited...even though he won't get to play...

him and Eze...that will change his mind about Nigeria and giving the NFF the nod to go ahead with his nationality switch.

ROHR AND PINNICK really messed this Ukraine friendly up....it would have been a perfect opportunity to get like 3-4 Britons and at least a German to commit to Nigeria... even that Nigeria born goal keeper in the US
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:03am On Sep 05, 2019
tbaba1234:
Keshi won the nations cup but did not leave a good foundation for the team. Many of Keshi's players are nowhere to be found. This is partly why we struggled after 2013 and failed to qualify for 2 consecutive nations cups.

Agbim, Egwuekwe, Uzoenyi, Oboabana, Mba, rueben Gabriel, Oshaniwa, Odunlami, Uchebo and Nwofor are nowhere to be found.

Just 5 years after the WC and all of these guys have disappeared. We laid no foundation for the super eagles.

In my opinion, Rohr is raising a team that will stand the test of time. And Rohr might not even be the coach to benefit from this team.

So far, he has achieved every goal expected of him without playing the exciting football that we want to see.

When we look back at Rohr's era, we will appreciate the players he brought in.
The pic shows Salisu's team list before Rohr’s arrival. Rohr has done well but my criticism is our lack of creativity. If Keshi was on sit now, most of the players Rohr is using would have been called up. Rohr is not doing something that is far from what the indigenous ones would have done.

Look at the squad of Salisu before Rohr’s arrival.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:05am On Sep 05, 2019
Yet I do not see anyone praising Salisu for laying Foundation for Rohr.
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