I know the SA thing is paining you as you say, also me too. But please hear my perspective:

I have lived in SA for almost 20 years.

What you see as pure xenophobia is actually community Vigilantism gone wrong or hijacked by criminals.

Some of the shops looted and destroyed are actually covers for a serious crime.

Some of our brothers take over entire areas and turn them into drug markets. But because the law in SA does not allow police to arrest criminals unless with evidence or unless shot at, so what happens is the drug guys hide these drugs in shops, restaurants etc and use as a face.
There are up to 30 public "drug" markets in Joburg alone. These are areas where 50 to 200 Nigerians converge on street corners to sell drugs. That's just in Johannesburg, and excludes other places.
The community knows and they try to inform the police. Sometimes these guys get arrested and bribe their way out when it fails the community takes laws into their hands.

Nigerians are not being targetted per se. The target is street drug dealers and yahoo boys who are mostly Nigerian.

Personally, in an area of Johannesburg, some years ago, drug dealers almost took over my property. We bought it and in the process of renovation, they invaded it and turned it into a drug hotel. It took God to evict them without being killed. It was led by Nigerians. In that property, there were families with women and children.

One strategy of selling drugs is to befriend young secondary school.Girls and introduce them. They get hooked and they start stealing and prostitution to feed the habit. Soon the entire area deteriorates.
Now, why I am sharing this with you is that the drug dealers are distracting attention. They are trying to make the Nigerian Government arise in anger and defend "Nigerians" ie defend drug dealers. if they succeed, they'd have staged a powerful coup. They'd have entered an official mafioso level, protected by Government.

Please see the article below: The Nigeria ambassador to SA said the majority of killings are perpetrated by fellow Nigerians. It's a drug turf war. he is right. I know some who've been killed.

So how can we accuse others of killing us when we are perpetrating it?

Those videos and pictures circulating of Nigerians in SA- how is it that we are shown only in the light of guys on the street? I know top Robotics engineers in SA, I know people in Top IT firms, developers, in Amazon, Google etc, I know top bankers, property company owners, many doctors, Superintendent of hospitals, professors, Pastors, etc.

So in summary here are my thoughts

- A vast majority of upright Nigerians in SA are very comfortable. They are doctors, teachers, business owners, etc. If we don't get the right story, we can set off a diplomatic war, everything collapses and these guys become targets. Currently, they are not being targetted by anyone. many are married to South Africans. Some head Government agencies and private companies.

- Yes, there are some xenophobic South Africans, but just like we fought against stigmatizing Fulani, we must also fight against stigmatizing South Africans. There are VERY many good South Africans, who don't buy into any form of oppression. Let us encourage our government to join with the South African Government and carry out a security raid on drug dealers.

If the Government announces this, you will see they will flee because they'll know the cover is blown! xenophobic attacks will reduce 95%.

The biggest donation event in the history of SA was in 2007 when people gave to victims of xenophobic attacks. The amount given was a record. It shows that the nation is not buying into that mindset.

- Please use your powerful platform to create a voice for good Nigerians in SA. You will be surprised. Many are afraid to talk because even Nigerian organizations in SA are infiltrated and even controlled by drug dealers and kingpins. No one wants to be killed. These guys are very powerful.



- Communities fighting to save themselves should not be hushed but helped to do it in a better way. Not jungle justice.
- Yes the SA Government must not also be left without responsibility in the matter, they should be tasked to step up their game too. While Nigeria targets drug dealers and yahoo buys, South Africa should target miscreants and criminals in a joint operation. SA Government also needs to purge bad eggs in its police force who are compromised. It Also needs to take its own share of blame for unemployment, poverty and economic challenges and social issues that allow drugs to be demanded.

I close with a prophecy by Pa Elton

"Africa is like a gun, Nigeria is like a trigger, South Africa is like a barrel

South Africa will be free. It will partner with Nigeria.

When that happens, Africa will arise and lead the world in many ways."

This prophecy was given in the hight of apartheid when it seemed impossible. Today it is half done South Africa has more bilateral agreements with Nigeria than any other nation on earth. We MUST NOT allow miscreants and criminals on both sides to hinder it, because if our national relationship fails, Africa will fail.

This is Buhari's "Mandela" moment. Will he rise up and shake off the pain and anger and mobilize Africa to unify or will he take a position that reverses the building of unity? I think he will do the right thing by God's grace, but I also believe publicizing the truth will help him and citizens.

I am open to discuss with you further on this matter, and if you feel the need to publish the above anonymously, please feel free. And if you want to do a tour to SA, I'll host you and we can go out and do a strategic mapping. I'll show you things that will make you see another perspective.
https://allafrica.com/stories/201808140022.html

hmmmmmm!!!!!!!!

Your level of stupidity is beyond reasoning

The most unbiased analysis of stories flying around.

Thank you Sir.

If you don't believe this, then you must be a racist or an uneducated bigot

You are spewing trash.

Is it the Nigerian govt's fault that the SA police and govt can not arrest, try, convict and deport the drug dealers?

The SA minister even used a stereotype that all Nigerians are engaged in drug dealing thereby justifying and fuelling more xenophobic attacks.

This your analysis is dead on arrival.

The average black SA especially the mullato class are notoriously criminal minded.

Are Nigerians the one raping and robbing in SA?

The truth is that the Nigerian gangsters are motivated purely for money and not some bullsh!t gang banging ethos.

The Nigerian drug gangs are more successful and this is why they are being targeted.

Let's leave the Nigerian drug kingpins and consider other Africans in SA who are also targeted during such xenophobic riots. Are they also into drug peddling? The black SAs claim that the Zambians, Tanzanians are taking over their jobs.

This is just pure arrant nonsense spewed by the ruling ANC govt which has failed in job creation. The country is already experiencing recession and more and more white SAs are leaving SA for good over the racist policies of the ANC govt that wants to do a Zimbabwe 2.0 on White owned farms and businesses in what can only be described as Marxist wealth redistribution scheme to steal from wealthy whites and give to lazy SA blacks.

You must understand that the xenophobic riots are state sponsored to deflect from the massive failures of the socialist ANC to appease their lazy black supporters.

What is happening in SA is exactly what transpires in the north where their leaders instigate ethno-religious riots to both force a political agenda and to allow their almajiri mob rape and loot to their heart's desire.

OP has made a whole lot of sense.. I have heard similar thing as well.

Somebody on ground took time to explain the reality of things to you, and you called it trash without superior argument nor facts and evidences.

So many of the videos you've seen are either old or has no relation to South Africa.

I really hate it when people can't keep an open mind to issues.

Just gulp whatever is thrown to you and continue to swim in ignorance

APCLyingBastard:
You are spewing trash.

Is it the Nigerian govt's fault that the SA police and govt can not arrest, try, convict and deport the drug dealers?

The SA minister even used a stereotype that all Nigerians are engaged in drug dealing thereby justifying and fuelling more xenophobic attacks.

This your analysis is dead on arrival.

The average black SA especially the mullato class are notoriously criminal minded.

Are Nigerians the one raping and robbing in SA?

The truth is that the Nigerian gangsters are motivated purely for money and not some bullsh!t gang banging ethos.

The Nigerian drug gangs are more successful and this is why they are being targeted.

Let's leave the Nigerian drug kingpins and consider other Africans in SA who are also targeted during such xenophobic riots. Are they also into drug peddling? The black SAs claim that the Zambians, Tanzanians are taking over their jobs.

This is just pure arrant nonsense spewed by the ruling ANC govt which has failed in job creation. The country is already experiencing recession and more and more white SAs are leaving SA for good over the racist policies of the ANC govt that wants to do a Zimbabwe 2.0 on White owned farms and businesses in what can only be described as Marxist wealth redistribution scheme to steal from wealthy whites and give to lazy SA blacks.

You must understand that the xenophobic riots are state sponsored to deflect from the massive failures of the socialist ANC to appease their lazy black supporters.

What is happening in SA is exactly what transpires in the north where their leaders instigate ethno-religious riots to both force a political agenda and to allow their almajiri mob rape and loot to their heart's desire.

360degreess:
OP has made a whole lot of sense..
I have heard similar thing as well.

Which sense?

FYI, the OP is a Yoruba bigot and tribalist who operates under the anago series handles.

He is here trying to justify the xenophobic riots and murders on foreign Africans all because majority of Nigerians in SA are Igbos.

The bigot doesn't know that the mob will not have the patience to differentiate between an Igbo or Yoruba just as the case is whenever there is a riot in the north.

This is not an issue of protesting against criminal activity committed by foreigners as SA has well entrenched criminal organizations and gangs that engage in drug peddling and robberies. The Numbers gang are notoriously vicious and barbaric and are composed exclusively of black SA.

One of the other reasons the Black SAs are rioting is over foreigners taking their jobs. Zambians, Tanzanians and other non SA blacks have been targeted as well by the mob.

The problem with you niggers is that you are always blinded by pure tribalism.

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Awol1:
Somebody on ground took time to explain the reality of things to you, and you called it trash without superior argument nor facts and evidences.

So many of the videos you've seen are either old or has no relation to South Africa.

I really hate it when people can't keep an open mind to issues.

Just gulp whatever is thrown to you and continue to swim in ignorance

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You are desperately trying to justify these xenophobic attacks because you know Igbos comprise the highest number of Nigerians in SA.

Ask yourself this:

1. Is it only Nigerians that are targeted? Are they not attacking other Black Africans?

2. The black SAs also gave foreigners "stealing their jobs" excuse. Is this a valid reason enough to go on rampage killing foreigners mostly from other African countries?

3. What if a bunch of redneck Trumpsters went on a killing spree killing Mexicans in the US over claims of being illegal aliens, stealing jobs and involved in criminal activity and at the same time, Trump goes on national TV making excuses for them?

You people are irredeemable dunces who can not reason beyond your primordial tribe mentality.

So Somalians are selling drugs? So it’s OK to lynch drug sellers while sparing drug buyers and users who are SAs?
Anything in SA law that says the punishment for alleged drug dealing in lynching??

@op anago40. Through out the 50s, 60s and well into the mid 70s, Italians flooded the US with bootlegging, prostitutions and drugs. At the time, these Italians held sway in America, having control over major cities in the US. American government and its indigenes did not resort to killing and chasing away every Italians because of the bad doings of some of them, instead they reigned in on their(mafias) operations by identifying, arresting or deporting most of their top operators, and this was despite the fact that a lot of US law officers and politicians were in the pockets of these mob bosses at the time. That was how the Italian mafia and their murderous activities were curtailed. The US got rid of the bad ones and allowed the good ones, which included some of the bad ones that got wise and turned legit, to continue doing their legit businesses peacefully. So, why can't South Africa do the same?

APCLyingBastard:
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You are desperately trying to justify these xenophobic attacks because you know Igbos comprise the highest number of Nigerians in SA.

Ask yourself this:

1. Is it only Nigerians that are targeted? Are they not attacking other Black Africans?

2. The black SAs also gave foreigners "stealing their jobs". Is this reason enough to go on rampage killing foreigners mostly from other African countries?

You people are irredeemable dunces who can not reason beyond your primordial tribe mentality.

You think I'm onye ofe mmanu? No, I'm not.

I'm just a guy who likes to enthrone reason over petty tribal whatever.

There's simple thing I want you to answer...

Are you aware, that not everything, including videos, that you gave seen recently is related to what is happening in SA?

allfriends:
Your level of stupidity is beyond reasoning

He lost me at saying this could be buharis Mandela moment lol

booblacain:
@op anago40. Through out the 50s, 60s and well into the mid 70s, Italians flooded the US with bootlegging, prostitutions and drugs. American government and its indigenes did not resort to killing and chasing away every Italians because of the bad doings of some of them, instead they reigned in on their operations by identifying, arresting or deporting most of their top operators. That was how the Italian mafia and their murderous activities were curtailed. The US got rid of the bad ones and allowed the good one to continue doing their business peacefully. So, why can't SA do the same? it is simply because the reason is beyond drugs.

The ANC plus another black Communist party in SA have been encouraging attacks on White farmers and businesses in what can best described as Ruga 5.0

The aim is simply to force white SAs to live the country.

Most white owned farms, businesses and properties are bought at a tiny fraction of their value by same corrupt SA politicians.

The Xenophobic riots are meant to deflect the failures of the black leadership to other Africans residing in SA and also as free pass to loot.

This is the real motives behind the riots.

APCLyingBastard:


Which sense?

FYI, the OP is a Yoruba bigot and tribalist who operates under the anago series handles.

He is here trying to justify the xenophobic riots and murders on foreign Africans all because majority of Nigerians in SA are Igbos.

The bigot doesn't know that the mob will not have the patience to differentiate between an Igbo or Yoruba just as the case is whenever there is a riot in the north.

This is not an issue of protesting against criminal activity committed by foreigners as SA has well entrenched criminal organizations and gangs that engage in drug peddling and robberies. The Numbers gang are notoriously vicious and barbaric and are composed exclusively of black SA.

One of the other reasons the Black SAs are rioting is over foreigners taking their jobs. Zambians, Tanzanians and other non SA blacks have been targeted as well by the mob.

The problem with you niggers is that you are always blinded by pure tribalism.

You are making a lot of noise.

Why not furnish us with evidences and facts to counter the Op's on ground description of event, if you have any.

You are just postulating and speculating.

Awol1:


You think I'm onye ofe mmanu? No, I'm not.

I'm just a guy who likes to enthrone reason over petty tribal whatever.

There's simple thing I want you to answer...

Are you aware, that not everything, including videos, that you gave seen recently is related to what is happening in SA?

You are first grade mumu


The SA govt is not doing anything to stop the rioters.

The SA govt is even making excuses for the riots as we can see from the statement credited to the FM.

You people should employ the two remaining brain cells in your head before you spew your ignorance here.

If you justify the riots on criminality and endorse the stereotype of labelling the criminal's ethnicity, race and nationality, then I see know reason why you complain when US customs gives you a thorough search at their airports.

You will be the first to rush in to condemn blanket labelling of Fulani herdsmen as criminals bit here you are justifying the murder and looting of your fellow Nigerians in SA.

Shame no dey catch una?

Awol1:


You are making a lot of noise.

Why not furnish us with evidences and facts to counter the Op's on ground description of event, if you have any.

You are just postulating and speculating.

You want facts?

SA has the highest murder and rape crimes committed mostly by black/colored SAs.

There are well established black/colored criminal gangs. I referenced the notorious homosexual prison gang called The Numbers.

SA economy has been shrinking since 1994 and has been overtaken by Nigeria as the biggest economy. Unemployment rates are growing yearly and the country has been in recession for the last 5yrs with no hope in sight.

The OP can be posting from even Ramphossa's parlour but that doesn't give him any waiver for being grossly uninformed about what is truly going on in that country.


Yeye

Solution ; let the South African Police partner with the Nigerian Police to arrest any Nigerian who is carrying out illicit activities and deport them back home for punishment and eventual integration.

However, the activities of Nigerian criminal elements does not give jobless South Africans the right to attack and destroy LEGITIMATE Nigerian owned businesses It is not a genuine excuse to kill Nigerians and threaten their livelihoods and especially that of their wives and children , because of other bad Nigerians.

Weed out the bad eggs and let the good Nigerians continue to do what they do best, i.e work hard, grow businesses and advance our cause.

Stop GIVING South Africans flimsy excuses for KILLING INNOCENT NIGERIANS and other AFRICANS. There is NO excuse for this.

No Nigerian has been killed in the current onslaught

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anago40:
I know the aSA thing is paining you as you say, also me too. But please hear my perspective:

I have lived in SA for almost 20 years.

What you see as pure xenophobia is actually community Vigilantism gone wrong or hijacked by criminals.

Some of the shops looted and destroyed are actually covers for a serious crime.

Some of our brothers take over entire areas and turn them into drug markets. But because the law in SA does not allow police to arrest criminals unless with evidence or unless shot at, so what happens is the drug guys hide these drugs in shops, restaurants etc and use as a face.
There are up to 30 public "drug" markets in Joburg alone. These are areas where 50 to 200 Nigerians converge on street corners to sell drugs. That's just in Johannesburg, and excludes other places.
The community knows and they try to inform the police. Sometimes these guys get arrested and bribe their way out when it fails the community takes laws into their hands.

Nigerians are not being targetted per se. The target is street drug dealers and yahoo boys who are mostly Nigerian.

Personally, in an area of Johannesburg, some years ago, drug dealers almost took over my property. We bought it and in the process of renovation, they invaded it and turned it into a drug hotel. It took God to evict them without being killed. It was led by Nigerians. In that property, there were families with women and children.

One strategy of selling drugs is to befriend young secondary school.Girls and introduce them. They get hooked and they start stealing and prostitution to feed the habit. Soon the entire area deteriorates.
Now, why I am sharing this with you is that the drug dealers are distracting attention. They are trying to make the Nigerian Government arise in anger and defend "Nigerians" ie defend drug dealers. if they succeed, they'd have staged a powerful coup. They'd have entered an official mafioso level, protected by Government.

Please see the article below: The Nigeria ambassador to SA said the majority of killings are perpetrated by fellow Nigerians. It's a drug turf war. he is right. I know some who've been killed.

So how can we accuse others of killing us when we are perpetrating it?

Those videos and pictures circulating of Nigerians in SA- how is it that we are shown only in the light of guys on the street? I know top Robotics engineers in SA, I know people in Top IT firms, developers, in Amazon, Google etc, I know top bankers, property company owners, many doctors, Superintendent of hospitals, professors, Pastors, etc.

So in summary here are my thoughts

- A vast majority of upright Nigerians in SA are very comfortable. They are doctors, teachers, business owners, etc. If we don't get the right story, we can set off a diplomatic war, everything collapses and these guys become targets. Currently, they are not being targetted by anyone. many are married to South Africans. Some head Government agencies and private companies.

- Yes, there are some xenophobic South Africans, but just like we fought against stigmatizing Fulani, we must also fight against stigmatizing South Africans. There are VERY many good South Africans, who don't buy into any form of oppression. Let us encourage our government to join with the South African Government and carry out a security raid on drug dealers.

If the Government announces this, you will see they will flee because they'll know the cover is blown! xenophobic attacks will reduce 95%.

The biggest donation event in the history of SA was in 2007 when people gave to victims of xenophobic attacks. The amount given was a record. It shows that the nation is not buying into that mindset.

- Please use your powerful platform to create a voice for good Nigerians in SA. You will be surprised. Many are afraid to talk because even Nigerian organizations in SA are infiltrated and even controlled by drug dealers and kingpins. No one wants to be killed. These guys are very powerful.



- Communities fighting to save themselves should not be hushed but helped to do it in a better way. Not jungle justice.
- Yes the SA Government must not also be left without responsibility in the matter, they should be tasked to step up their game too. While Nigeria targets drug dealers and yahoo buys, South Africa should target miscreants and criminals in a joint operation. SA Government also needs to purge bad eggs in its police force who are compromised. It Also needs to take its own share of blame for unemployment, poverty and economic challenges and social issues that allow drugs to be demanded.

I close with a prophecy by Pa Elton

"Africa is like a gun, Nigeria is like a trigger, South Africa is like a barrel

South Africa will be free. It will partner with Nigeria.

When that happens, Africa will arise and lead the world in many ways."

This prophecy was given in the hight of apartheid when it seemed impossible. Today it is half done South Africa has more bilateral agreements with Nigeria than any other nation on earth. We MUST NOT allow miscreants and criminals on both sides to hinder it, because if our national relationship fails, Africa will fail.

This is Buhari's "Mandela" moment. Will he rise up and shake off the pain and anger and mobilize Africa to unify or will he take a position that reverses the building of unity? I think he will do the right thing by God's grace, but I also believe publicizing the truth will help him and citizens.

I am open to discuss with you further on this matter, and if you feel the need to publish the above anonymously, please feel free. And if you want to do a tour to SA, I'll host you and we can go out and do a strategic mapping. I'll show you things that will make you see another perspective.
https://allafrica.com/stories/201808140022.html

[/s] trash

anago40:
I know the SA thing is paining you as you say, also me too. But please hear my perspective:

I have lived in SA for almost 20 years.

What you see as pure xenophobia is actually community Vigilantism gone wrong or hijacked by criminals.

Some of the shops looted and destroyed are actually covers for a serious crime.

Some of our brothers take over entire areas and turn them into drug markets. But because the law in SA does not allow police to arrest criminals unless with evidence or unless shot at, so what happens is the drug guys hide these drugs in shops, restaurants etc and use as a face.
There are up to 30 public "drug" markets in Joburg alone. These are areas where 50 to 200 Nigerians converge on street corners to sell drugs. That's just in Johannesburg, and excludes other places.
The community knows and they try to inform the police. Sometimes these guys get arrested and bribe their way out when it fails the community takes laws into their hands.

Nigerians are not being targetted per se. The target is street drug dealers and yahoo boys who are mostly Nigerian.

Personally, in an area of Johannesburg, some years ago, drug dealers almost took over my property. We bought it and in the process of renovation, they invaded it and turned it into a drug hotel. It took God to evict them without being killed. It was led by Nigerians. In that property, there were families with women and children.

One strategy of selling drugs is to befriend young secondary school.Girls and introduce them. They get hooked and they start stealing and prostitution to feed the habit. Soon the entire area deteriorates.
Now, why I am sharing this with you is that the drug dealers are distracting attention. They are trying to make the Nigerian Government arise in anger and defend "Nigerians" ie defend drug dealers. if they succeed, they'd have staged a powerful coup. They'd have entered an official mafioso level, protected by Government.

Please see the article below: The Nigeria ambassador to SA said the majority of killings are perpetrated by fellow Nigerians. It's a drug turf war. he is right. I know some who've been killed.

So how can we accuse others of killing us when we are perpetrating it?

Those videos and pictures circulating of Nigerians in SA- how is it that we are shown only in the light of guys on the street? I know top Robotics engineers in SA, I know people in Top IT firms, developers, in Amazon, Google etc, I know top bankers, property company owners, many doctors, Superintendent of hospitals, professors, Pastors, etc.

So in summary here are my thoughts

- A vast majority of upright Nigerians in SA are very comfortable. They are doctors, teachers, business owners, etc. If we don't get the right story, we can set off a diplomatic war, everything collapses and these guys become targets. Currently, they are not being targetted by anyone. many are married to South Africans. Some head Government agencies and private companies.

- Yes, there are some xenophobic South Africans, but just like we fought against stigmatizing Fulani, we must also fight against stigmatizing South Africans. There are VERY many good South Africans, who don't buy into any form of oppression. Let us encourage our government to join with the South African Government and carry out a security raid on drug dealers.

If the Government announces this, you will see they will flee because they'll know the cover is blown! xenophobic attacks will reduce 95%.

The biggest donation event in the history of SA was in 2007 when people gave to victims of xenophobic attacks. The amount given was a record. It shows that the nation is not buying into that mindset.

- Please use your powerful platform to create a voice for good Nigerians in SA. You will be surprised. Many are afraid to talk because even Nigerian organizations in SA are infiltrated and even controlled by drug dealers and kingpins. No one wants to be killed. These guys are very powerful.



- Communities fighting to save themselves should not be hushed but helped to do it in a better way. Not jungle justice.
- Yes the SA Government must not also be left without responsibility in the matter, they should be tasked to step up their game too. While Nigeria targets drug dealers and yahoo buys, South Africa should target miscreants and criminals in a joint operation. SA Government also needs to purge bad eggs in its police force who are compromised. It Also needs to take its own share of blame for unemployment, poverty and economic challenges and social issues that allow drugs to be demanded.

I close with a prophecy by Pa Elton

"Africa is like a gun, Nigeria is like a trigger, South Africa is like a barrel

South Africa will be free. It will partner with Nigeria.

When that happens, Africa will arise and lead the world in many ways."

This prophecy was given in the hight of apartheid when it seemed impossible. Today it is half done South Africa has more bilateral agreements with Nigeria than any other nation on earth. We MUST NOT allow miscreants and criminals on both sides to hinder it, because if our national relationship fails, Africa will fail.

This is Buhari's "Mandela" moment. Will he rise up and shake off the pain and anger and mobilize Africa to unify or will he take a position that reverses the building of unity? I think he will do the right thing by God's grace, but I also believe publicizing the truth will help him and citizens.

I am open to discuss with you further on this matter, and if you feel the need to publish the above anonymously, please feel free. And if you want to do a tour to SA, I'll host you and we can go out and do a strategic mapping. I'll show you things that will make you see another perspective.
https://allafrica.com/stories/201808140022.html

If I may ask, were those lazy South Africans forced to buy or use those drugs? They want it and it's being supplied so who do we blame for their stupid and silly excuses of accusing Nigerians for their ineptitude in solving their drug consuming problem?

anago40:
I know the SA thing is paining you as you say, also me too. But please hear my perspective:

I have lived in SA for almost 20 years.

What you see as pure xenophobia is actually community Vigilantism gone wrong or hijacked by criminals.

Some of the shops looted and destroyed are actually covers for a serious crime.

Some of our brothers take over entire areas and turn them into drug markets. But because the law in SA does not allow police to arrest criminals unless with evidence or unless shot at, so what happens is the drug guys hide these drugs in shops, restaurants etc and use as a face.
There are up to 30 public "drug" markets in Joburg alone. These are areas where 50 to 200 Nigerians converge on street corners to sell drugs. That's just in Johannesburg, and excludes other places.
The community knows and they try to inform the police. Sometimes these guys get arrested and bribe their way out when it fails the community takes laws into their hands.

Nigerians are not being targetted per se. The target is street drug dealers and yahoo boys who are mostly Nigerian.

Personally, in an area of Johannesburg, some years ago, drug dealers almost took over my property. We bought it and in the process of renovation, they invaded it and turned it into a drug hotel. It took God to evict them without being killed. It was led by Nigerians. In that property, there were families with women and children.

One strategy of selling drugs is to befriend young secondary school.Girls and introduce them. They get hooked and they start stealing and prostitution to feed the habit. Soon the entire area deteriorates.
Now, why I am sharing this with you is that the drug dealers are distracting attention. They are trying to make the Nigerian Government arise in anger and defend "Nigerians" ie defend drug dealers. if they succeed, they'd have staged a powerful coup. They'd have entered an official mafioso level, protected by Government.

Please see the article below: The Nigeria ambassador to SA said the majority of killings are perpetrated by fellow Nigerians. It's a drug turf war. he is right. I know some who've been killed.

So how can we accuse others of killing us when we are perpetrating it?

Those videos and pictures circulating of Nigerians in SA- how is it that we are shown only in the light of guys on the street? I know top Robotics engineers in SA, I know people in Top IT firms, developers, in Amazon, Google etc, I know top bankers, property company owners, many doctors, Superintendent of hospitals, professors, Pastors, etc.

So in summary here are my thoughts

- A vast majority of upright Nigerians in SA are very comfortable. They are doctors, teachers, business owners, etc. If we don't get the right story, we can set off a diplomatic war, everything collapses and these guys become targets. Currently, they are not being targetted by anyone. many are married to South Africans. Some head Government agencies and private companies.

- Yes, there are some xenophobic South Africans, but just like we fought against stigmatizing Fulani, we must also fight against stigmatizing South Africans. There are VERY many good South Africans, who don't buy into any form of oppression. Let us encourage our government to join with the South African Government and carry out a security raid on drug dealers.

If the Government announces this, you will see they will flee because they'll know the cover is blown! xenophobic attacks will reduce 95%.

The biggest donation event in the history of SA was in 2007 when people gave to victims of xenophobic attacks. The amount given was a record. It shows that the nation is not buying into that mindset.

- Please use your powerful platform to create a voice for good Nigerians in SA. You will be surprised. Many are afraid to talk because even Nigerian organizations in SA are infiltrated and even controlled by drug dealers and kingpins. No one wants to be killed. These guys are very powerful.



- Communities fighting to save themselves should not be hushed but helped to do it in a better way. Not jungle justice.
- Yes the SA Government must not also be left without responsibility in the matter, they should be tasked to step up their game too. While Nigeria targets drug dealers and yahoo buys, South Africa should target miscreants and criminals in a joint operation. SA Government also needs to purge bad eggs in its police force who are compromised. It Also needs to take its own share of blame for unemployment, poverty and economic challenges and social issues that allow drugs to be demanded.

I close with a prophecy by Pa Elton

"Africa is like a gun, Nigeria is like a trigger, South Africa is like a barrel

South Africa will be free. It will partner with Nigeria.

When that happens, Africa will arise and lead the world in many ways."

This prophecy was given in the hight of apartheid when it seemed impossible. Today it is half done South Africa has more bilateral agreements with Nigeria than any other nation on earth. We MUST NOT allow miscreants and criminals on both sides to hinder it, because if our national relationship fails, Africa will fail.

This is Buhari's "Mandela" moment. Will he rise up and shake off the pain and anger and mobilize Africa to unify or will he take a position that reverses the building of unity? I think he will do the right thing by God's grace, but I also believe publicizing the truth will help him and citizens.

I am open to discuss with you further on this matter, and if you feel the need to publish the above anonymously, please feel free. And if you want to do a tour to SA, I'll host you and we can go out and do a strategic mapping. I'll show you things that will make you see another perspective.
https://allafrica.com/stories/201808140022.html

I believe people need to calm the hell down and read this, the killings, vandalism of properties and brutality of foreign citizens is very wrong but if u actually read this post and think/analyze objectively, u'll see truth in what hes saying...

allfriends:
Your level of stupidity is beyond reasoning

Dude, calm down. He spoke honestly there...let's not wash our dirty linens in the public sha.

APCLyingBastard:




SA economy has been shrinking since 1994 and has been overtaken by Nigeria as the biggest economy.

RUBBISH. The SA economy has EXPANDED nearly six-fold since 1994. Nigeria only overtook her because Nigeria's economy grew even more, and faster, and not because SA's economy shrank.

anago40:
I know the SA thing is paining you as you say, also me too. But please hear my perspective:

I have lived in SA for almost 20 years.

What you see as pure xenophobia is actually community Vigilantism gone wrong or hijacked by criminals.

Some of the shops looted and destroyed are actually covers for a serious crime.

Some of our brothers take over entire areas and turn them into drug markets. But because the law in SA does not allow police to arrest criminals unless with evidence or unless shot at, so what happens is the drug guys hide these drugs in shops, restaurants etc and use as a face.
There are up to 30 public "drug" markets in Joburg alone. These are areas where 50 to 200 Nigerians converge on street corners to sell drugs. That's just in Johannesburg, and excludes other places.
The community knows and they try to inform the police. Sometimes these guys get arrested and bribe their way out when it fails the community takes laws into their hands.

Nigerians are not being targetted per se. The target is street drug dealers and yahoo boys who are mostly Nigerian.

Personally, in an area of Johannesburg, some years ago, drug dealers almost took over my property. We bought it and in the process of renovation, they invaded it and turned it into a drug hotel. It took God to evict them without being killed. It was led by Nigerians. In that property, there were families with women and children.

One strategy of selling drugs is to befriend young secondary school.Girls and introduce them. They get hooked and they start stealing and prostitution to feed the habit. Soon the entire area deteriorates.
Now, why I am sharing this with you is that the drug dealers are distracting attention. They are trying to make the Nigerian Government arise in anger and defend "Nigerians" ie defend drug dealers. if they succeed, they'd have staged a powerful coup. They'd have entered an official mafioso level, protected by Government.

Please see the article below: The Nigeria ambassador to SA said the majority of killings are perpetrated by fellow Nigerians. It's a drug turf war. he is right. I know some who've been killed.

So how can we accuse others of killing us when we are perpetrating it?

Those videos and pictures circulating of Nigerians in SA- how is it that we are shown only in the light of guys on the street? I know top Robotics engineers in SA, I know people in Top IT firms, developers, in Amazon, Google etc, I know top bankers, property company owners, many doctors, Superintendent of hospitals, professors, Pastors, etc.

So in summary here are my thoughts

- A vast majority of upright Nigerians in SA are very comfortable. They are doctors, teachers, business owners, etc. If we don't get the right story, we can set off a diplomatic war, everything collapses and these guys become targets. Currently, they are not being targetted by anyone. many are married to South Africans. Some head Government agencies and private companies.

- Yes, there are some xenophobic South Africans, but just like we fought against stigmatizing Fulani, we must also fight against stigmatizing South Africans. There are VERY many good South Africans, who don't buy into any form of oppression. Let us encourage our government to join with the South African Government and carry out a security raid on drug dealers.

If the Government announces this, you will see they will flee because they'll know the cover is blown! xenophobic attacks will reduce 95%.

The biggest donation event in the history of SA was in 2007 when people gave to victims of xenophobic attacks. The amount given was a record. It shows that the nation is not buying into that mindset.

- Please use your powerful platform to create a voice for good Nigerians in SA. You will be surprised. Many are afraid to talk because even Nigerian organizations in SA are infiltrated and even controlled by drug dealers and kingpins. No one wants to be killed. These guys are very powerful.



- Communities fighting to save themselves should not be hushed but helped to do it in a better way. Not jungle justice.
- Yes the SA Government must not also be left without responsibility in the matter, they should be tasked to step up their game too. While Nigeria targets drug dealers and yahoo buys, South Africa should target miscreants and criminals in a joint operation. SA Government also needs to purge bad eggs in its police force who are compromised. It Also needs to take its own share of blame for unemployment, poverty and economic challenges and social issues that allow drugs to be demanded.

I close with a prophecy by Pa Elton

"Africa is like a gun, Nigeria is like a trigger, South Africa is like a barrel

South Africa will be free. It will partner with Nigeria.

When that happens, Africa will arise and lead the world in many ways."

This prophecy was given in the hight of apartheid when it seemed impossible. Today it is half done South Africa has more bilateral agreements with Nigeria than any other nation on earth. We MUST NOT allow miscreants and criminals on both sides to hinder it, because if our national relationship fails, Africa will fail.

This is Buhari's "Mandela" moment. Will he rise up and shake off the pain and anger and mobilize Africa to unify or will he take a position that reverses the building of unity? I think he will do the right thing by God's grace, but I also believe publicizing the truth will help him and citizens.

I am open to discuss with you further on this matter, and if you feel the need to publish the above anonymously, please feel free. And if you want to do a tour to SA, I'll host you and we can go out and do a strategic mapping. I'll show you things that will make you see another perspective.
https://allafrica.com/stories/201808140022.html

No No

allfriends:
Your level of stupidity is beyond reasoning

It's beyond reasoning because you lack the capacity to reason.
I believe in the analysis of the OP. And I think the federal government of Nigeria should collaborate with SA government to fish out these drug lords. SA should also perhaps change their laws to curb the excesses of the drug lords.

anago40:
I know the SA thing is paining you as you say, also me too. But please hear my perspective:

I have lived in SA for almost 20 years.

What you see as pure xenophobia is actually community Vigilantism gone wrong or hijacked by criminals.

Some of the shops looted and destroyed are actually covers for a serious crime.

Some of our brothers take over entire areas and turn them into drug markets. But because the law in SA does not allow police to arrest criminals unless with evidence or unless shot at, so what happens is the drug guys hide these drugs in shops, restaurants etc and use as a face.
There are up to 30 public "drug" markets in Joburg alone. These are areas where 50 to 200 Nigerians converge on street corners to sell drugs. That's just in Johannesburg, and excludes other places.
The community knows and they try to inform the police. Sometimes these guys get arrested and bribe their way out when it fails the community takes laws into their hands.

Nigerians are not being targetted per se. The target is street drug dealers and yahoo boys who are mostly Nigerian.

Personally, in an area of Johannesburg, some years ago, drug dealers almost took over my property. We bought it and in the process of renovation, they invaded it and turned it into a drug hotel. It took God to evict them without being killed. It was led by Nigerians. In that property, there were families with women and children.

One strategy of selling drugs is to befriend young secondary school.Girls and introduce them. They get hooked and they start stealing and prostitution to feed the habit. Soon the entire area deteriorates.
Now, why I am sharing this with you is that the drug dealers are distracting attention. They are trying to make the Nigerian Government arise in anger and defend "Nigerians" ie defend drug dealers. if they succeed, they'd have staged a powerful coup. They'd have entered an official mafioso level, protected by Government.

Please see the article below: The Nigeria ambassador to SA said the majority of killings are perpetrated by fellow Nigerians. It's a drug turf war. he is right. I know some who've been killed.

So how can we accuse others of killing us when we are perpetrating it?

Those videos and pictures circulating of Nigerians in SA- how is it that we are shown only in the light of guys on the street? I know top Robotics engineers in SA, I know people in Top IT firms, developers, in Amazon, Google etc, I know top bankers, property company owners, many doctors, Superintendent of hospitals, professors, Pastors, etc.

So in summary here are my thoughts

- A vast majority of upright Nigerians in SA are very comfortable. They are doctors, teachers, business owners, etc. If we don't get the right story, we can set off a diplomatic war, everything collapses and these guys become targets. Currently, they are not being targetted by anyone. many are married to South Africans. Some head Government agencies and private companies.

- Yes, there are some xenophobic South Africans, but just like we fought against stigmatizing Fulani, we must also fight against stigmatizing South Africans. There are VERY many good South Africans, who don't buy into any form of oppression. Let us encourage our government to join with the South African Government and carry out a security raid on drug dealers.

If the Government announces this, you will see they will flee because they'll know the cover is blown! xenophobic attacks will reduce 95%.

The biggest donation event in the history of SA was in 2007 when people gave to victims of xenophobic attacks. The amount given was a record. It shows that the nation is not buying into that mindset.

- Please use your powerful platform to create a voice for good Nigerians in SA. You will be surprised. Many are afraid to talk because even Nigerian organizations in SA are infiltrated and even controlled by drug dealers and kingpins. No one wants to be killed. These guys are very powerful.



- Communities fighting to save themselves should not be hushed but helped to do it in a better way. Not jungle justice.
- Yes the SA Government must not also be left without responsibility in the matter, they should be tasked to step up their game too. While Nigeria targets drug dealers and yahoo buys, South Africa should target miscreants and criminals in a joint operation. SA Government also needs to purge bad eggs in its police force who are compromised. It Also needs to take its own share of blame for unemployment, poverty and economic challenges and social issues that allow drugs to be demanded.

I close with a prophecy by Pa Elton

"Africa is like a gun, Nigeria is like a trigger, South Africa is like a barrel

South Africa will be free. It will partner with Nigeria.

When that happens, Africa will arise and lead the world in many ways."

This prophecy was given in the hight of apartheid when it seemed impossible. Today it is half done South Africa has more bilateral agreements with Nigeria than any other nation on earth. We MUST NOT allow miscreants and criminals on both sides to hinder it, because if our national relationship fails, Africa will fail.

This is Buhari's "Mandela" moment. Will he rise up and shake off the pain and anger and mobilize Africa to unify or will he take a position that reverses the building of unity? I think he will do the right thing by God's grace, but I also believe publicizing the truth will help him and citizens.

I am open to discuss with you further on this matter, and if you feel the need to publish the above anonymously, please feel free. And if you want to do a tour to SA, I'll host you and we can go out and do a strategic mapping. I'll show you things that will make you see another perspective.
https://allafrica.com/stories/201808140022.html

What you wrote there is not quite different from what happens in European countries where I've been. The drug dealers in/around some african shops. The only difference is the police. They do their work in Europe - arrest, jail or deport & close down the shop. They don't take bribes to the detriment of their people. Xenophobia is not the way out.

May God bless the writer of this article. Igbo's want Nigerian Government to fight and defend them over crimes committed by their Brothers.

Hmmm

APCLyingBastard:


Which sense?

FYI, the OP is a Yoruba bigot and tribalist who operates under the anago series handles.

He is here trying to justify the xenophobic riots and murders on foreign Africans all because majority of Nigerians in SA are Igbos.

The bigot doesn't know that the mob will not have the patience to differentiate between an Igbo or Yoruba just as the case is whenever there is a riot in the north.

This is not an issue of protesting against criminal activity committed by foreigners as SA has well entrenched criminal organizations and gangs that engage in drug peddling and robberies. The Numbers gang are notoriously vicious and barbaric and are composed exclusively of black SA.

One of the other reasons the Black SAs are rioting is over foreigners taking their jobs. Zambians, Tanzanians and other non SA blacks have been targeted as well by the mob.

The problem with you niggers is that you are always blinded by pure tribalism.

This is the third account Im getting about the reality on ground. The two others are by independent sources. SAfricans have been issuing warnings a long time about Nigerians commiting crimes in their country. On social media if you identify as Nigerian in a South African circle they start to attack you right away but once you say you are Yoruba they calm down. Which to me says they know the criminal Nigerians. Like the op said their community vigilantes had probably become fed up and took self-help action to save communities from Ibos infesting their communities with crimes but it resulted in mob action and widespread attacks on everyone not SA.

Even here in Nigeria, Yoruba leaders have warned that you are toxic to our culture but their respect for law stops them from evicting you. In North Hausa/Fulani also have spoken up about your toxicity to their environment and because they are non-chalant about civil law or constitution, they backed it up with Kaduna Declaration, insisting all Ibos must vacate North.

In Ghana they know Ibo and don't like you. In Gabon few years ago children were dissapearing from different communities. They tracked it down to Nigerians living in their countries, and specifically Ibos. Once in a while the grab-and-go fails and the kidnapper is caught. Everytime its an Ibo.

We are tired of curse on our land. The SA are also tired and want cleansing. You Ibos are making living anywhere in the world and identifying as a Nigerian a risk for our lives. When people rise up against you we are involuntarily caught in the fracas.

anago40:
I know the SA thing is paining you as you say, also me too. But please hear my perspective:

I have lived in SA for almost 20 years.

What you see as pure xenophobia is actually community Vigilantism gone wrong or hijacked by criminals.

Some of the shops looted and destroyed are actually covers for a serious crime.

Some of our brothers take over entire areas and turn them into drug markets. But because the law in SA does not allow police to arrest criminals unless with evidence or unless shot at, so what happens is the drug guys hide these drugs in shops, restaurants etc and use as a face.
There are up to 30 public "drug" markets in Joburg alone. These are areas where 50 to 200 Nigerians converge on street corners to sell drugs. That's just in Johannesburg, and excludes other places.
The community knows and they try to inform the police. Sometimes these guys get arrested and bribe their way out when it fails the community takes laws into their hands.

Nigerians are not being targetted per se. The target is street drug dealers and yahoo boys who are mostly Nigerian.

Personally, in an area of Johannesburg, some years ago, drug dealers almost took over my property. We bought it and in the process of renovation, they invaded it and turned it into a drug hotel. It took God to evict them without being killed. It was led by Nigerians. In that property, there were families with women and children.

One strategy of selling drugs is to befriend young secondary school.Girls and introduce them. They get hooked and they start stealing and prostitution to feed the habit. Soon the entire area deteriorates.
Now, why I am sharing this with you is that the drug dealers are distracting attention. They are trying to make the Nigerian Government arise in anger and defend "Nigerians" ie defend drug dealers. if they succeed, they'd have staged a powerful coup. They'd have entered an official mafioso level, protected by Government.

Please see the article below: The Nigeria ambassador to SA said the majority of killings are perpetrated by fellow Nigerians. It's a drug turf war. he is right. I know some who've been killed.

So how can we accuse others of killing us when we are perpetrating it?

Those videos and pictures circulating of Nigerians in SA- how is it that we are shown only in the light of guys on the street? I know top Robotics engineers in SA, I know people in Top IT firms, developers, in Amazon, Google etc, I know top bankers, property company owners, many doctors, Superintendent of hospitals, professors, Pastors, etc.

So in summary here are my thoughts

- A vast majority of upright Nigerians in SA are very comfortable. They are doctors, teachers, business owners, etc. If we don't get the right story, we can set off a diplomatic war, everything collapses and these guys become targets. Currently, they are not being targetted by anyone. many are married to South Africans. Some head Government agencies and private companies.

- Yes, there are some xenophobic South Africans, but just like we fought against stigmatizing Fulani, we must also fight against stigmatizing South Africans. There are VERY many good South Africans, who don't buy into any form of oppression. Let us encourage our government to join with the South African Government and carry out a security raid on drug dealers.

If the Government announces this, you will see they will flee because they'll know the cover is blown! xenophobic attacks will reduce 95%.

The biggest donation event in the history of SA was in 2007 when people gave to victims of xenophobic attacks. The amount given was a record. It shows that the nation is not buying into that mindset.

- Please use your powerful platform to create a voice for good Nigerians in SA. You will be surprised. Many are afraid to talk because even Nigerian organizations in SA are infiltrated and even controlled by drug dealers and kingpins. No one wants to be killed. These guys are very powerful.



- Communities fighting to save themselves should not be hushed but helped to do it in a better way. Not jungle justice.
- Yes the SA Government must not also be left without responsibility in the matter, they should be tasked to step up their game too. While Nigeria targets drug dealers and yahoo buys, South Africa should target miscreants and criminals in a joint operation. SA Government also needs to purge bad eggs in its police force who are compromised. It Also needs to take its own share of blame for unemployment, poverty and economic challenges and social issues that allow drugs to be demanded.

I close with a prophecy by Pa Elton

"Africa is like a gun, Nigeria is like a trigger, South Africa is like a barrel

South Africa will be free. It will partner with Nigeria.

When that happens, Africa will arise and lead the world in many ways."

This prophecy was given in the hight of apartheid when it seemed impossible. Today it is half done South Africa has more bilateral agreements with Nigeria than any other nation on earth. We MUST NOT allow miscreants and criminals on both sides to hinder it, because if our national relationship fails, Africa will fail.

This is Buhari's "Mandela" moment. Will he rise up and shake off the pain and anger and mobilize Africa to unify or will he take a position that reverses the building of unity? I think he will do the right thing by God's grace, but I also believe publicizing the truth will help him and citizens.

I am open to discuss with you further on this matter, and if you feel the need to publish the above anonymously, please feel free. And if you want to do a tour to SA, I'll host you and we can go out and do a strategic mapping. I'll show you things that will make you see another perspective.
https://allafrica.com/stories/201808140022.html

God of Mercy, thank you for this truthful Nigerian. May you enable the governments of Nigeria and SA to develop a great and effective partnership for peace, progress and development. Expose the evil ones who deliberately created a toxic atmosphere and set out to ensure that Buhari does not succeed in building a great partnership with SA and frustrate their wicked machinations against the peoples and governments of Nigeria and South Africa. Paralyse, neutralise and obliterate them, in Jesus' Name!

I have read your write up in other news , which area of South are even staying?