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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by Nobody: 6:40am On Sep 06, 2019
Quite insightful
Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by Nobody: 7:09am On Sep 06, 2019
anago40:
I know the SA thing is paining you as you say, also me too. But please hear my perspective:

I have lived in SA for almost 20 years.

What you see as pure xenophobia is actually community Vigilantism gone wrong or hijacked by criminals.

Some of the shops looted and destroyed are actually covers for a serious crime.

Some of our brothers take over entire areas and turn them into drug markets. But because the law in SA does not allow police to arrest criminals unless with evidence or unless shot at, so what happens is the drug guys hide these drugs in shops, restaurants etc and use as a face.
There are up to 30 public "drug" markets in Joburg alone. These are areas where 50 to 200 Nigerians converge on street corners to sell drugs. That's just in Johannesburg, and excludes other places.
The community knows and they try to inform the police. Sometimes these guys get arrested and bribe their way out when it fails the community takes laws into their hands.

Nigerians are not being targetted per se. The target is street drug dealers and yahoo boys who are mostly Nigerian.

Personally, in an area of Johannesburg, some years ago, drug dealers almost took over my property. We bought it and in the process of renovation, they invaded it and turned it into a drug hotel. It took God to evict them without being killed. It was led by Nigerians. In that property, there were families with women and children.

One strategy of selling drugs is to befriend young secondary school.Girls and introduce them. They get hooked and they start stealing and prostitution to feed the habit. Soon the entire area deteriorates.
Now, why I am sharing this with you is that the drug dealers are distracting attention. They are trying to make the Nigerian Government arise in anger and defend "Nigerians" ie defend drug dealers. if they succeed, they'd have staged a powerful coup. They'd have entered an official mafioso level, protected by Government.

Please see the article below: The Nigeria ambassador to SA said the majority of killings are perpetrated by fellow Nigerians. It's a drug turf war. he is right. I know some who've been killed.

So how can we accuse others of killing us when we are perpetrating it?

Those videos and pictures circulating of Nigerians in SA- how is it that we are shown only in the light of guys on the street? I know top Robotics engineers in SA, I know people in Top IT firms, developers, in Amazon, Google etc, I know top bankers, property company owners, many doctors, Superintendent of hospitals, professors, Pastors, etc.

So in summary here are my thoughts

- A vast majority of upright Nigerians in SA are very comfortable. They are doctors, teachers, business owners, etc. If we don't get the right story, we can set off a diplomatic war, everything collapses and these guys become targets. Currently, they are not being targetted by anyone. many are married to South Africans. Some head Government agencies and private companies.

- Yes, there are some xenophobic South Africans, but just like we fought against stigmatizing Fulani, we must also fight against stigmatizing South Africans. There are VERY many good South Africans, who don't buy into any form of oppression. Let us encourage our government to join with the South African Government and carry out a security raid on drug dealers.

If the Government announces this, you will see they will flee because they'll know the cover is blown! xenophobic attacks will reduce 95%.

The biggest donation event in the history of SA was in 2007 when people gave to victims of xenophobic attacks. The amount given was a record. It shows that the nation is not buying into that mindset.

- Please use your powerful platform to create a voice for good Nigerians in SA. You will be surprised. Many are afraid to talk because even Nigerian organizations in SA are infiltrated and even controlled by drug dealers and kingpins. No one wants to be killed. These guys are very powerful.



- Communities fighting to save themselves should not be hushed but helped to do it in a better way. Not jungle justice.
- Yes the SA Government must not also be left without responsibility in the matter, they should be tasked to step up their game too. While Nigeria targets drug dealers and yahoo buys, South Africa should target miscreants and criminals in a joint operation. SA Government also needs to purge bad eggs in its police force who are compromised. It Also needs to take its own share of blame for unemployment, poverty and economic challenges and social issues that allow drugs to be demanded.

I close with a prophecy by Pa Elton

"Africa is like a gun, Nigeria is like a trigger, South Africa is like a barrel

South Africa will be free. It will partner with Nigeria.

When that happens, Africa will arise and lead the world in many ways."

This prophecy was given in the hight of apartheid when it seemed impossible. Today it is half done South Africa has more bilateral agreements with Nigeria than any other nation on earth. We MUST NOT allow miscreants and criminals on both sides to hinder it, because if our national relationship fails, Africa will fail.

This is Buhari's "Mandela" moment. Will he rise up and shake off the pain and anger and mobilize Africa to unify or will he take a position that reverses the building of unity? I think he will do the right thing by God's grace, but I also believe publicizing the truth will help him and citizens.

I am open to discuss with you further on this matter, and if you feel the need to publish the above anonymously, please feel free. And if you want to do a tour to SA, I'll host you and we can go out and do a strategic mapping. I'll show you things that will make you see another perspective.
https://allafrica.com/stories/201808140022.html


Whatever is written here is a barefaced lie to what I have read and known.

That you spent donkey years in SA and return with nothing is not a reason to start looking for opportunities to reel out ur frustration and anger on free people.


What do you gain spreading lies or try to paint everywhere black?



If they are selling drugs, do they also force them to buy thee drugs?


Even you as a grown up man do they force u to go and eat or even urinate when pressed?

Do someone force you to fend for yourselves...



You guys should stop looking for a way to spread out ur unsuccessful life with lies laced with I have been there for 20 years?


If you have been there for 20 years people have been there for 40 years and they didn't make or write this rubbish?


Please get a better life than spreading lies to score cheap political goal...


Ozu nwuru anwu.

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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by Nobody: 7:14am On Sep 06, 2019
rex444:
I have read your write up in other news , which area of South are even staying?


He is not staying in a SA.

These are people who has failed woefully in life and now live and dine with lies.

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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by awgumayor: 7:24am On Sep 06, 2019
anago40:
I know the SA thing is paining you as you say, also me too. But please hear my perspective:

I have lived in SA for almost 20 years.

What you see as pure xenophobia is actually community Vigilantism gone wrong or hijacked by criminals.

Some of the shops looted and destroyed are actually covers for a serious crime.

Some of our brothers take over entire areas and turn them into drug markets. But because the law in SA does not allow police to arrest criminals unless with evidence or unless shot at, so what happens is the drug guys hide these drugs in shops, restaurants etc and use as a face.
There are up to 30 public "drug" markets in Joburg alone. These are areas where 50 to 200 Nigerians converge on street corners to sell drugs. That's just in Johannesburg, and excludes other places.
The community knows and they try to inform the police. Sometimes these guys get arrested and bribe their way out when it fails the community takes laws into their hands.

Nigerians are not being targetted per se. The target is street drug dealers and yahoo boys who are mostly Nigerian.

Personally, in an area of Johannesburg, some years ago, drug dealers almost took over my property. We bought it and in the process of renovation, they invaded it and turned it into a drug hotel. It took God to evict them without being killed. It was led by Nigerians. In that property, there were families with women and children.

One strategy of selling drugs is to befriend young secondary school.Girls and introduce them. They get hooked and they start stealing and prostitution to feed the habit. Soon the entire area deteriorates.
Now, why I am sharing this with you is that the drug dealers are distracting attention. They are trying to make the Nigerian Government arise in anger and defend "Nigerians" ie defend drug dealers. if they succeed, they'd have staged a powerful coup. They'd have entered an official mafioso level, protected by Government.

Please see the article below: The Nigeria ambassador to SA said the majority of killings are perpetrated by fellow Nigerians. It's a drug turf war. he is right. I know some who've been killed.

So how can we accuse others of killing us when we are perpetrating it?

Those videos and pictures circulating of Nigerians in SA- how is it that we are shown only in the light of guys on the street? I know top Robotics engineers in SA, I know people in Top IT firms, developers, in Amazon, Google etc, I know top bankers, property company owners, many doctors, Superintendent of hospitals, professors, Pastors, etc.

So in summary here are my thoughts

- A vast majority of upright Nigerians in SA are very comfortable. They are doctors, teachers, business owners, etc. If we don't get the right story, we can set off a diplomatic war, everything collapses and these guys become targets. Currently, they are not being targetted by anyone. many are married to South Africans. Some head Government agencies and private companies.

- Yes, there are some xenophobic South Africans, but just like we fought against stigmatizing Fulani, we must also fight against stigmatizing South Africans. There are VERY many good South Africans, who don't buy into any form of oppression. Let us encourage our government to join with the South African Government and carry out a security raid on drug dealers.

If the Government announces this, you will see they will flee because they'll know the cover is blown! xenophobic attacks will reduce 95%.

The biggest donation event in the history of SA was in 2007 when people gave to victims of xenophobic attacks. The amount given was a record. It shows that the nation is not buying into that mindset.

- Please use your powerful platform to create a voice for good Nigerians in SA. You will be surprised. Many are afraid to talk because even Nigerian organizations in SA are infiltrated and even controlled by drug dealers and kingpins. No one wants to be killed. These guys are very powerful.



- Communities fighting to save themselves should not be hushed but helped to do it in a better way. Not jungle justice.
- Yes the SA Government must not also be left without responsibility in the matter, they should be tasked to step up their game too. While Nigeria targets drug dealers and yahoo buys, South Africa should target miscreants and criminals in a joint operation. SA Government also needs to purge bad eggs in its police force who are compromised. It Also needs to take its own share of blame for unemployment, poverty and economic challenges and social issues that allow drugs to be demanded.

I close with a prophecy by Pa Elton

"Africa is like a gun, Nigeria is like a trigger, South Africa is like a barrel

South Africa will be free. It will partner with Nigeria.

When that happens, Africa will arise and lead the world in many ways."

This prophecy was given in the hight of apartheid when it seemed impossible. Today it is half done South Africa has more bilateral agreements with Nigeria than any other nation on earth. We MUST NOT allow miscreants and criminals on both sides to hinder it, because if our national relationship fails, Africa will fail.

This is Buhari's "Mandela" moment. Will he rise up and shake off the pain and anger and mobilize Africa to unify or will he take a position that reverses the building of unity? I think he will do the right thing by God's grace, but I also believe publicizing the truth will help him and citizens.

I am open to discuss with you further on this matter, and if you feel the need to publish the above anonymously, please feel free. And if you want to do a tour to SA, I'll host you and we can go out and do a strategic mapping. I'll show you things that will make you see another perspective.
https://allafrica.com/stories/201808140022.html
" One strategy of selling drugs is to befriend young secondary school girls and introduce them." You are wrong. In all your life in SA have you taken your time to call some of those children and interrogate them on how they start using drugs. Take your time and call some of them and interrogate them. Don't come here to deceive the public. If you are a God fearing man you should have call them to find out their situation. Most of them need help, most of them are not happy that they are smoking. Please call some of them and interact with them you might be their helper.
From my findings, most of it started from school, it's about peer pressure group, one will be taking it and his colleagues will feel that he is the hard boy and they too want to be like him then he introduce his friends and this go round. Not only in the schools even in the locations. Most of young girls smoking it first got it from their boyfriends, yes do some research. The worst of it is that if your son or daughter is smoking you will want another parents sons and daughters to be smokig it too. Drug menace in South Africa needs devine intervention that has been my prayers.
Honestly, the way drugs are being being used in South Africa is not good. It should be condemned by all. South African govt should toughen their law on drug business to scare some people from doing it. If they can put death penalty that will be good.

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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by ArticleBeast: 7:25am On Sep 06, 2019
Awol1:


You think I'm onye ofe mmanu? No, I'm not.

I'm just a guy who likes to enthrone reason over petty tribal whatever.

There's simple thing I want you to answer...

Are you aware, that not everything, including videos, that you gave seen recently is related to what is happening in SA?
But you just copy and pasted the crap from a useless website.
Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by Henrodah(m): 7:35am On Sep 06, 2019
APCLyingBastard:
You are spewing trash.

Is it the Nigerian govt's fault that the SA police and govt can not arrest, try, convict and deport the drug dealers?

The SA minister even used a stereotype that all Nigerians are engaged in drug dealing thereby justifying and fuelling more xenophobic attacks.

This your analysis is dead on arrival.

The average black SA especially the mullato class are notoriously criminal minded.

Are Nigerians the one raping and robbing in SA?

The truth is that the Nigerian gangsters are motivated purely for money and not some bullsh!t gang banging ethos.

The Nigerian drug gangs are more successful and this is why they are being targeted.

Let's leave the Nigerian drug kingpins and consider other Africans in SA who are also targeted during such xenophobic riots. Are they also into drug peddling? The black SAs claim that the Zambians, Tanzanians are taking over their jobs.

This is just pure arrant nonsense spewed by the ruling ANC govt which has failed in job creation. The country is already experiencing recession and more and more white SAs are leaving SA for good over the racist policies of the ANC govt that wants to do a Zimbabwe 2.0 on White owned farms and businesses in what can only be described as Marxist wealth redistribution scheme to steal from wealthy whites and give to lazy SA blacks.

You must understand that the xenophobic riots are state sponsored to deflect from the massive failures of the socialist ANC to appease their lazy black supporters.


What is happening in SA is exactly what transpires in the north where their leaders instigate ethno-religious riots to both force a political agenda and to allow their almajiri mob rape and loot to their heart's desire.

MA NIGGA!

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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by otokx(m): 7:44am On Sep 06, 2019
Very vague write up, the author could not properly introduce him or herself and failed to mention specific areas and or businesses. So many lies going on in the social media sphere these days.

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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by Eastatlantalove(m): 7:52am On Sep 06, 2019
ImperialYoruba:


This is the third account Im getting about the reality on ground. The two others are by independent sources. SAfricans have been issuing warnings a long time about Nigerians commiting crimes in their country. On social media if you identify as Nigerian in a South African circle they start to attack you right away but once you say you are Yoruba they calm down. Which to me says they know the criminal Nigerians. Like the op said their community vigilantes had probably become fed up and took self-help action to save communities from Ibos infesting their communities with crimes but it resulted in mob action and widespread attacks on everyone not SA.

Even here in Nigeria, Yoruba leaders have warned that you are toxic to our culture but their respect for law stops them from evicting you. In North Hausa/Fulani also have spoken up about your toxicity to their environment and because they are non-chalant about civil law or constitution, they backed it up with Kaduna Declaration, insisting all Ibos must vacate North.

In Ghana they know Ibo and don't like you. In Gabon few years ago children were dissapearing from different communities. They tracked it down to Nigerians living in their countries, and specifically Ibos. Once in a while the grab-and-go fails and the kidnapper is caught. Everytime its an Ibo.

We are tired of curse on our land. The SA are also tired and want cleansing. You Ibos are making living anywhere in the world and identifying as a Nigerian a risk for our lives. When people rise up against you we are involuntarily caught in the fracas.
Lol this is xenophobia

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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by kingjomezy(m): 7:54am On Sep 06, 2019
anago40:
I know the SA thing is paining you as you say, also me too. But please hear my perspective:

I have lived in SA for almost 20 years.

What you see as pure xenophobia is actually community Vigilantism gone wrong or hijacked by criminals.

Some of the shops looted and destroyed are actually covers for a serious crime.

Some of our brothers take over entire areas and turn them into drug markets. But because the law in SA does not allow police to arrest criminals unless with evidence or unless shot at, so what happens is the drug guys hide these drugs in shops, restaurants etc and use as a face.
There are up to 30 public "drug" markets in Joburg alone. These are areas where 50 to 200 Nigerians converge on street corners to sell drugs. That's just in Johannesburg, and excludes other places.
The community knows and they try to inform the police. Sometimes these guys get arrested and bribe their way out when it fails the community takes laws into their hands.

Nigerians are not being targetted per se. The target is street drug dealers and yahoo boys who are mostly Nigerian.

Personally, in an area of Johannesburg, some years ago, drug dealers almost took over my property. We bought it and in the process of renovation, they invaded it and turned it into a drug hotel. It took God to evict them without being killed. It was led by Nigerians. In that property, there were families with women and children.

One strategy of selling drugs is to befriend young secondary school.Girls and introduce them. They get hooked and they start stealing and prostitution to feed the habit. Soon the entire area deteriorates.
Now, why I am sharing this with you is that the drug dealers are distracting attention. They are trying to make the Nigerian Government arise in anger and defend "Nigerians" ie defend drug dealers. if they succeed, they'd have staged a powerful coup. They'd have entered an official mafioso level, protected by Government.

Please see the article below: The Nigeria ambassador to SA said the majority of killings are perpetrated by fellow Nigerians. It's a drug turf war. he is right. I know some who've been killed.

So how can we accuse others of killing us when we are perpetrating it?

Those videos and pictures circulating of Nigerians in SA- how is it that we are shown only in the light of guys on the street? I know top Robotics engineers in SA, I know people in Top IT firms, developers, in Amazon, Google etc, I know top bankers, property company owners, many doctors, Superintendent of hospitals, professors, Pastors, etc.

So in summary here are my thoughts

- A vast majority of upright Nigerians in SA are very comfortable. They are doctors, teachers, business owners, etc. If we don't get the right story, we can set off a diplomatic war, everything collapses and these guys become targets. Currently, they are not being targetted by anyone. many are married to South Africans. Some head Government agencies and private companies.

- Yes, there are some xenophobic South Africans, but just like we fought against stigmatizing Fulani, we must also fight against stigmatizing South Africans. There are VERY many good South Africans, who don't buy into any form of oppression. Let us encourage our government to join with the South African Government and carry out a security raid on drug dealers.

If the Government announces this, you will see they will flee because they'll know the cover is blown! xenophobic attacks will reduce 95%.

The biggest donation event in the history of SA was in 2007 when people gave to victims of xenophobic attacks. The amount given was a record. It shows that the nation is not buying into that mindset.

- Please use your powerful platform to create a voice for good Nigerians in SA. You will be surprised. Many are afraid to talk because even Nigerian organizations in SA are infiltrated and even controlled by drug dealers and kingpins. No one wants to be killed. These guys are very powerful.



- Communities fighting to save themselves should not be hushed but helped to do it in a better way. Not jungle justice.
- Yes the SA Government must not also be left without responsibility in the matter, they should be tasked to step up their game too. While Nigeria targets drug dealers and yahoo buys, South Africa should target miscreants and criminals in a joint operation. SA Government also needs to purge bad eggs in its police force who are compromised. It Also needs to take its own share of blame for unemployment, poverty and economic challenges and social issues that allow drugs to be demanded.

I close with a prophecy by Pa Elton

"Africa is like a gun, Nigeria is like a trigger, South Africa is like a barrel

South Africa will be free. It will partner with Nigeria.

When that happens, Africa will arise and lead the world in many ways."

This prophecy was given in the hight of apartheid when it seemed impossible. Today it is half done South Africa has more bilateral agreements with Nigeria than any other nation on earth. We MUST NOT allow miscreants and criminals on both sides to hinder it, because if our national relationship fails, Africa will fail.

This is Buhari's "Mandela" moment. Will he rise up and shake off the pain and anger and mobilize Africa to unify or will he take a position that reverses the building of unity? I think he will do the right thing by God's grace, but I also believe publicizing the truth will help him and citizens.

I am open to discuss with you further on this matter, and if you feel the need to publish the above anonymously, please feel free. And if you want to do a tour to SA, I'll host you and we can go out and do a strategic mapping. I'll show you things that will make you see another perspective.
https://allafrica.com/stories/201808140022.html


copy and paste .Take this your propaganda elseware ,your stupidity is as tall as buhari

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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by madenigga(m): 9:35am On Sep 06, 2019
"Personally, in an area of Johannesburg, some years ago, drug dealers almost took over my property. We bought it and in the process of renovation, they invaded it and turned it into a drug hotel. It took God to evict them without being killed. It was led by Nigerians. In that property, there were families with women and children."

this happens in Nigeria i am a living witness to this so somehow i dont doubt it, once drug dealers use your place as a base leaving there wont be back. I know a friend in Nigeria, Port Harcourt to be precious suffering this problem, the guys own issue is that he also smokes so it has not been easy chasing these drug dealers away, most are cultist, Vikings to be precise, sometimes to make sure they dont know its him calling sars for them he allows sars arrest him too and take him to the station.

Na real o

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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by 1x2x3: 9:40am On Sep 06, 2019
ImperialYoruba:


This is the third account Im getting about the reality on ground. The two others are by independent sources. SAfricans have been issuing warnings a long time about Nigerians commiting crimes in their country. On social media if you identify as Nigerian in a South African circle they start to attack you right away but once you say you are Yoruba they calm down. Which to me says they know the criminal Nigerians. Like the op said their community vigilantes had probably become fed up and took self-help action to save communities from Ibos infesting their communities with crimes but it resulted in mob action and widespread attacks on everyone not SA.

Even here in Nigeria, Yoruba leaders have warned that you are toxic to our culture but their respect for law stops them from evicting you. In North Hausa/Fulani also have spoken up about your toxicity to their environment and because they are non-chalant about civil law or constitution, they backed it up with Kaduna Declaration, insisting all Ibos must vacate North.

In Ghana they know Ibo and don't like you. In Gabon few years ago children were dissapearing from different communities. They tracked it down to Nigerians living in their countries, and specifically Ibos. Once in a while the grab-and-go fails and the kidnapper is caught. Everytime its an Ibo.

We are tired of curse on our land. The SA are also tired and want cleansing. You Ibos are making living anywhere in the world and identifying as a Nigerian a risk for our lives. When people rise up against you we are involuntarily caught in the fracas.

Yet you guys want to give your last drop of blood for the same Igbo to remain in the so called one Nigeria grin. This alone defeats the rubbish you just spewed. How can they be so bad yet Yorubas and Northerners will fight for them to stay with you?

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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by ANGELINAX(f): 9:44am On Sep 06, 2019
Surprised this isn't coming from BBC, with their myopic and biased sense of reasoning. The more you look, the less see.
Who are you deceiving...
Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by anago40: 9:48am On Sep 06, 2019
MelesZenawi:



Whatever is written here is a barefaced lie to what I have read and known.

That you spent donkey years in SA and return with nothing is not a reason to start looking for opportunities to reel out ur frustration and anger on free people.


What do you gain spreading lies or try to paint everywhere black?



If they are selling drugs, do they also force them to buy thee drugs?


Even you as a grown up man do they force u to go and eat or even urinate when pressed?

Do someone force you to fend for yourselves...



You guys should stop looking for a way to spread out ur unsuccessful life with lies laced with I have been there for 20 years?


If you have been there for 20 years people have been there for 40 years and they didn't make or write this rubbish?


Please get a better life than spreading lies to score cheap political goal...


Ozu nwuru anwu.
I won't be surprised if you or your brother living in south Africa are the ones destroying our image. Stop destroying precious lives with drugs on the altar of money

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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by Nobody: 9:51am On Sep 06, 2019
anago40:

I won't be surprised if you or your brother living in south Africa are the ones destroying our image. Stop destroying precious lives with drugs on the altar of money


Take it again as I pray u finally succeed in life.


That's how awolowo ended up with rat poison.



Whatever is written here is a barefaced lie to what I have read and known.

That you spent donkey years in SA and return with nothing is not a reason to start looking for opportunities to reel out ur frustration and anger on free people.


What do you gain spreading lies or try to paint everywhere black?



If they are selling drugs, do they also force them to buy thee drugs?


Even you as a grown up man do they force u to go and eat or even urinate when pressed?

Do someone force you to fend for yourselves...



You guys should stop looking for a way to spread out ur unsuccessful life with lies laced with I have been there for 20 years?


If you have been there for 20 years people have been there for 40 years and they didn't make or write this rubbish?


Please get a better life than spreading lies to score cheap political goal...


Ozu nwuru anwu.

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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by anago40: 10:16am On Sep 06, 2019
[quote author=MelesZenawi post=81970386]


Take it again as I pray u finally succeed in life.


That's how awolowo ended up with rat poison.



Whatever is written here is a barefaced lie to what I have read and known.

That you spent donkey years in SA and return with nothing is not a reason to start looking for opportunities to reel out ur frustration and anger on free people.


What do you gain spreading lies or try to paint everywhere black?



If they are selling drugs, do they also force them to buy thee drugs?


Even you as a grown up man do they force u to go and eat or even urinate when pressed?

Do someone force you to fend for yourselves...



You guys should stop looking for a way to spread out ur unsuccessful life with lies laced with I have been there for 20 years?


If you have been there for 20 years people have been there for 40 years and they didn't make or write this rubbish?


Please get a better life than spreading lies to score cheap political goal...


Ozu nwuru anwu.

I know you are pained but let me add to your sorrow. That you can read and write does not translate to intelligence.
Below is another narrative that will further compound your blood pressure and increase your grief grin

grin
Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by ledamaster(m): 10:21am On Sep 06, 2019
Awol1:


You think I'm onye ofe mmanu? No, I'm not.

I'm just a guy who likes to enthrone reason over petty tribal whatever.

There's simple thing I want you to answer...

Are you aware, that not everything, including videos, that you gave seen recently is related to what is happening in SA?

TFOH with that rubbish talk. I know you and your tribal bias. Those that were there when the taxi driver was shot said it was Tanzanians that shot je poor guy and not Nigerians. Yall should be ashamed of your selves.
Some Afonja based in one thick forrest close to Akure came online to claim he is based in S.A. Compound Heediots wants us to b3lieve his cork and bull stories.
Nigerians take their Best women.
Nigerians Make more money.
Nigerians Live larger than them.
All boils down to Jealousy.
30-40% of their Intelligia and Medical communities in SA are Nigerians. But Cows like the OP won't admit that.

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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by Nobody: 10:31am On Sep 06, 2019
[quote author=anago40 post=81971080][/quote]


Take it again as I pray u finally succeed in life.


That's how awolowo ended up with rat poison.



Whatever is written here is a barefaced lie to what I have read and known.

That you spent donkey years in SA and return with nothing is not a reason to start looking for opportunities to reel out ur frustration and anger on free people.


What do you gain spreading lies or try to paint everywhere black?



If they are selling drugs, do they also force them to buy thee drugs?


Even you as a grown up man do they force u to go and eat or even urinate when pressed?

Do someone force you to fend for yourselves...



You guys should stop looking for a way to spread out ur unsuccessful life with lies laced with I have been there for 20 years?


If you have been there for 20 years people have been there for 40 years and they didn't make or write this rubbish?


Please get a better life than spreading lies to score cheap political goal...


Ozu nwuru anwu.
Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by anago40: 10:35am On Sep 06, 2019
MelesZenawi:



Take it again as I pray u finally succeed in life.


That's how awolowo ended up with rat poison.



Whatever is written here is a barefaced lie to what I have read and known.

That you spent donkey years in SA and return with nothing is not a reason to start looking for opportunities to reel out ur frustration and anger on free people.


What do you gain spreading lies or try to paint everywhere black?



If they are selling drugs, do they also force them to buy thee drugs?


Even you as a grown up man do they force u to go and eat or even urinate when pressed?

Do someone force you to fend for yourselves...



You guys should stop looking for a way to spread out ur unsuccessful life with lies laced with I have been there for 20 years?


If you have been there for 20 years people have been there for 40 years and they didn't make or write this rubbish?


Please get a better life than spreading lies to score cheap political goal...


Ozu nwuru anwu.


Let me componund your woe
Read the story below.


THE KILLINGS IN SOUTH AFRICA
THE NIGERIAN COMPLICITY
THE TRUE STORIES

I tried to keep my peace over this attack on Nigerians by South Africans but the increased calls by Nigerians over here for boycott of this and that and for our ambassador/Nigerian government to act this and act that has spurred me to pen this down here!

I condemn in its totality, the violence meted on Nigerians living in South Africa! I abhor the violent taking of life even one done legally....... BUT IT MUST BE STATED THAT NIGERIANS LIVING IN S.A. HAVE SYSTEMATICALLY DESTROYED THE VERY FABRIC OF THAT COUNTRY..... MORALLY, CULTURALLY, ECONOMICALLY AND SOCIALLY!

Let us take stock:

1. It was Nigerians that immigrated to South Africa and turned it to one of the major capital city of drugs in the world!

The drug cartels began with the Yorubas and increasingly overtaken by the IGBOS in S.A.! In fact, right this moment, the IGBOS in the drug business have effectively run the Yorubas out of S.A. to other southern African countries like Mozambique etc.

2. The Nigerians in S.A. have presently turned the country into a drug-war zone!....killings galore.....Igbos killing Igbos!

Do you know that every day in S.A., a Nigerian.....precisely an Igbo man is killed in a drug-related case?? .....I said every day not once a week!....or once in 3 days!..... EVERYDAY! In fact the Igbo boys running the shows in S. A. have dominated areas they control and all these to the chagrin of the law enforcement agencies!

Let me tell you a secret that is not so secret.....do you know that every week at the Akanu Ibiam International Airport here in Enugu, corpses of IGBOS.....slain in "drug battles" in different streets of S.A. are flown into the country??

I have personally witnessed the receiving of 7 corpses in 3 weeks in one instance! In fact at one of those occasions.....(normally the corpses arrive on the Thursday cargo flights of Ethiopian Airlines)....I was present when 3 different families were in the manager's office to receive their slain sons......two of those families were represented by the aged biological fathers to the dead boys!....the third family, represented by a younger man in age...an uncle to the third corpse!

They were making small talks between themselves as they waited for the cargo (the coffins) to be disembarked.....(to be "off-loaded"wink!

One of them asked the other elder which city his son was in? He answered Jo'burg!....on further enquiry as to whether his own son was married, he retorted... No!....to which the first man commented that his own son has a son from a white South African.....and that the lady simply packaged some of the personal documents/items of his son and informed him of the date of the arrival of the son's corpse to Enugu but that she has blatantly refused all entreaties to accompany the corpse home!.....That they are certain that that son of his son (his grandson) would never return home to Nigeria!

The other silent man (the uncle to one of the dead) remarked that "his own family were indeed lucky in that their slain son had been coerced to come home and marry a Nigerian girl and has 2 kids (girls) already". Then told of his own story of seeking greener pastures in S. A. and how he couldn't fit into the street hustling..... According to him.......basically all IGBOS in S.A. are on the streets......from Hillbrow... Jo'burg to Capetown!....from Pretoria....to Durban!

He said he never bargained for such a life and quickly left his host....a maternal cousin and took his return ticket back home! That he has since engaged in his petty trading and is doing well enough and has 4 kids!

As this conversation was going on, I was quietly musing to myself:

How on earth could these gentlemen.....soft-spoken elderly men take all these agony......for surely it must be agony for them to be the ones burying their scions!....how could they sit in those swivel chairs in front of the manager and stoically be discussing the end of their eras??......do they have other sons and daughters probably??.... Maybe they did their best to counsel and chide their sons to desist from the fast lane and have accepted their sons' fates??

I wondered about their wives/mothers to those sons they would never behold again....not because they died from ailment or accident but simply because they sought wealth......this fleeting wealth the wrong way!

I wondered if they would heal or forgive their sons or they would look upon the wealth and groan in satisfaction that all was not lost after all??

I imagined myself in the shoes of their grief and I swore to myself that I would sooner let go such a son from my heart who refused to heed my counsel than be forced to mourn his untimely death in pursuit of meaningless riches!

I watched them file out of the office one after the other and shuddered unconsciously again!!

3. This will shock you...... Are you aware that Nigerians living in S. A. have literally turned little/young South African girls into strings of well-oiled prostitution rings?? .....I am talking of girls between the ages of 10-14 years old! These young South African girls are introduced.....scratch that!....these girls are immersed in drugs and turned to addicts and then they are set on the streets to be prostituted and their lives are effectively and totally wrecked! .....

Now put yourself in the shoes of these South Africans!

Would we all as Nigerians stomach a situation whereby in Lagos State or Anambra State or Bauchi State or Enugu State or Yobe State or a combination of those states, Kenyans or Zimbabweans or South Africans or people from neighboring Ghana would populate our cities....legitly or illegally and begin to sell drugs to our young men...turn our school girls into prostitutes....and litter our streets with dead bodies of their gang wars?

Would Lagosians allow their children to be used as pimps and prostitutes by FOREIGNERS who desecrate daily our value systems??

Would Enugu inhabitants allow Ghanaians to run our streets into crime zones.....such that we can't sleep at night and worry if our kids sent to schools are really at school or in a drug hotel somewhere sniffing white powders....and our girls violated daily sexually??

Wouldn't we someday just scream enough is enough and take up arms to rid our city of such devilish foreigners??

Are you aware that Indians populate a city in S.A. called Durban?? Do you know that Indians at one time recently, carried out systematic killings of Nigerians living in Durban??

What was the cause??....there was some Indian youths that were sold a harsh substance by the drug cartel which would literally liquefy the innards of the person leading to instant death!

These drug pushers know that this substance is adulterated and causes death (not addiction) yet they push it out there to their peddlers!

The Indians decided to help themselves and their community and embarked on a killing spree of Nigerians in Durban engaged in the drug business and left their calling cards in their victims!

Ask yourself this:

Did the South Africans begin to hate us all of a sudden or they had always hated us all these while??

How come we all used to migrate to South Africa easily and many of us married their girls (I know some friends who did and are still living happily with their wives) but now they hate us all??

OR

Would you close your eyes to the evil we Nigerians have unleashed in South Africa simply because we saved them from apartheid era?? So because we assisted them that now gives us the gumption to destroy their society like we've persistently done ours??

Some home grown truths will serve us in good stead here than this pontificating all over the place I plead!

Picture those attackers on our people....beating and burning them up as mothers or fathers or brothers or cousins who have lost a son or daughter or sibling to the cold hands of death by drug intake or whose virginity has been brutally lost and who is a human wreck to her society!

Before you cast your stone.....imagine that you lost your own dear child to crime...and not just any crime but one perpetrated by your own visitors!

My take on all these: NIGERIANS SHOULD FIRSTLY DEMAND THE CLEANUP OF SOUTH AFRICA and that includes the incaceration and/or deportation of these miscreants giving us all bad reputation in S.A.!

The drug war raging in that country engineered by our countrymen must be stopped!

Then the two countries should rapport to safeguard the lives and businesses of the many genuine Nigerians living and contributing to the economy of South Africa!

PS: Pls after reading this post, but before you start the deluge of insults upon me, kindly call up your own brother doing legitimate business in S.A. and he will confirm these facts to you as the absolute TRUTH!

Chinedum Agwaramgbo

Copied from Chinedum wall. I found it very interesting to share.

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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by Beremx(f): 10:49am On Sep 06, 2019
These ones heaping the blame on Igbos for running drug cartels in SA, what do you tend to achieve? SA do not know who is Yoruba or Igbo or Benin. Nigerians are Nigerians.

Idiots trying to exonerate other ethnic groups and absolve Igbos of crime.

Nonsense

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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by T9ksy(m): 11:32am On Sep 06, 2019
Beremx:
These ones heaping the blame on Igbos for running drug cartels in SA, what do you tend to achieve? SA do not know who is Yoruba or Igbo or Benin. Nigerians are Nigerians.

Idiots trying to exonerate other ethnic groups and absolve Igbos of crime.

Nonsense


Are you now saying that ibos are not running drug cartels in SA?

Am certain that SA (by now) can differentiate between yoruba and ibo nigerians.

Btw, whatever came out of the ozobulu massacre where ibo drug lords brought their turf war to their home ground and a place of worship? Has anyone being convicted of these heinous crime? Definitely not!

The only group of people trying to "absolve" ibos of (drug) crimes are their fellow kinsmen/women.

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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by Yujin(m): 11:36am On Sep 06, 2019
ImperialYoruba:


This is the third account Im getting about the reality on ground. The two others are by independent sources. SAfricans have been issuing warnings a long time about Nigerians commiting crimes in their country. On social media if you identify as Nigerian in a South African circle they start to attack you right away but once you say you are Yoruba they calm down. Which to me says they know the criminal Nigerians. Like the op said their community vigilantes had probably become fed up and took self-help action to save communities from Ibos infesting their communities with crimes but it resulted in mob action and widespread attacks on everyone not SA.

Even here in Nigeria, Yoruba leaders have warned that you are toxic to our culture but their respect for law stops them from evicting you. In North Hausa/Fulani also have spoken up about your toxicity to their environment and because they are non-chalant about civil law or constitution, they backed it up with Kaduna Declaration, insisting all Ibos must vacate North.

In Ghana they know Ibo and don't like you. In Gabon few years ago children were dissapearing from different communities. They tracked it down to Nigerians living in their countries, and specifically Ibos. Once in a while the grab-and-go fails and the kidnapper is caught. Everytime its an Ibo.

We are tired of curse on our land. The SA are also tired and want cleansing. You Ibos are making living anywhere in the world and identifying as a Nigerian a risk for our lives. When people rise up against you we are involuntarily caught in the fracas.
I'll come back for you evil vermin whose hatred is glaring to all.

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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by Beremx(f): 11:39am On Sep 06, 2019
T9ksy:



Are you now saying that ibos are not running drug cartels in SA?

Am certain that SA (by now) can differentiate between yoruba and ibo nigerians.

Btw, whatever came out of the ozobulu massacre where ibo drug lords brought their turf war to their home ground and a place of worship? Has anyone being convicted of these heinous crime? Definitely not!

The only group of people trying to "absolve" ibos of (drug) crimes are their fellow kinsmen/women.
You want to tell me other ethnic groups don't run drug cartels to? Why single out only Igbos? There is no ethnic group that does not indulge in crime whether in or outside the country. Please stop portraying your ethnic group as saints. SA doesn't know who is Igbo or Yoruba if not why did your kinsmen run to the bush and made a video crying for help. Why weren't they spared by S. Africans? As bad as you think Igbos are drug pushers, the same Igbos have the highest number of legitimate business men in SA.

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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by T9ksy(m): 11:49am On Sep 06, 2019
Beremx:
You want to tell me other ethnic groups don't run drug cartels to? Why single out only Igbos? There is no ethnic group that does not indulge in crime whether in or outside the country. Please stop portraying your ethnic group as saints. SA doesn't know who is Igbo or Yoruba if not why did your kinsmen run to the bush and made a video crying for help. Why weren't they spared by S. Africans? As bad as you think Igbos are drug pushers, the same Igbos have the highest number of legitimate business men in SA.


@ bolded.................Of course..........afterall, shebi Invictus Obi was a successful legitimate (sic) business man. He was even featured on the front page of Forbes magazine.
Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by Beremx(f): 11:52am On Sep 06, 2019
T9ksy:



@ bolded.................Of course..........afterall, shebi Invictus Obi was a successful legitimate (sic) business man. He was even featured on the front page of Forbes magazine.
na you sabi. He's a saint where Tinubu is. You want me and you to start picking out criminals from our ethnic groups? Ogbeni, I don't indulge in bigotry. I know you are an Agbalagba in that aspect. grin grin.

Peace out!

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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by hammerVJ: 11:55am On Sep 06, 2019
OP IS A WAT?

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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by hammerVJ: 11:57am On Sep 06, 2019
WEN I INVADE YORUBA MEN MARRYING IGBO WOMEN THREAD, PEOPLE SAY Y NAU.

THEY SAY AM TRIBALIST, ETC

YET, YORUBA HATE IGBOS, U WANT THEM DEAD, YET U ARE FIRST IN LINE BEGGING TO MARRY THEIR WOMEN.

I HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH YORUBA MEN.

ANY OTHER TRIBE, I WONT EVEN BLINK AN EYE BUT YORUBA MEN IS LIKE TAKING THE PEACE.


ONLY A DOG, GOES BACK TO ITS VOMIT.

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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by T9ksy(m): 12:09pm On Sep 06, 2019
Beremx:
na you sabi. He's a saint where Tinubu is. You want me and you to start picking out criminals from our ethnic groups? Ogbeni, I don't indulge in bigotry. I know you are an Agbalagba in that aspect. grin grin.

Peace out!


Yes ke! Invictus Obi is a saint in comparison to Tinubu but then, that's is your blinkered perspective but i won't rush off to tag you a bigot.

Who's going into dick measuring with you? Not me. Am well aware that you guys are the best thing since sliced bread grin

Btw, whatever became of the Ozobulu massacre? Was anyone arrested for the horrendous crime? Probably not as the main drug kingpin (in SA) is a friend of the then governor.
Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by Maduawuchukwu(m): 12:10pm On Sep 06, 2019
anago40:


Let me componund your woe
Read the story below.


THE KILLINGS IN SOUTH AFRICA
THE NIGERIAN COMPLICITY
THE TRUE STORIES

I tried to keep my peace over this attack on Nigerians by South Africans but the increased calls by Nigerians over here for boycott of this and that and for our ambassador/Nigerian government to act this and act that has spurred me to pen this down here!

I condemn in its totality, the violence meted on Nigerians living in South Africa! I abhor the violent taking of life even one done legally....... BUT IT MUST BE STATED THAT NIGERIANS LIVING IN S.A. HAVE SYSTEMATICALLY DESTROYED THE VERY FABRIC OF THAT COUNTRY..... MORALLY, CULTURALLY, ECONOMICALLY AND SOCIALLY!

Let us take stock:

1. It was Nigerians that immigrated to South Africa and turned it to one of the major capital city of drugs in the world!

The drug cartels began with the Yorubas and increasingly overtaken by the IGBOS in S.A.! In fact, right this moment, the IGBOS in the drug business have effectively run the Yorubas out of S.A. to other southern African countries like Mozambique etc.

2. The Nigerians in S.A. have presently turned the country into a drug-war zone!....killings galore.....Igbos killing Igbos!

Do you know that every day in S.A., a Nigerian.....precisely an Igbo man is killed in a drug-related case?? .....I said every day not once a week!....or once in 3 days!..... EVERYDAY! In fact the Igbo boys running the shows in S. A. have dominated areas they control and all these to the chagrin of the law enforcement agencies!

Let me tell you a secret that is not so secret.....do you know that every week at the Akanu Ibiam International Airport here in Enugu, corpses of IGBOS.....slain in "drug battles" in different streets of S.A. are flown into the country??

I have personally witnessed the receiving of 7 corpses in 3 weeks in one instance! In fact at one of those occasions.....(normally the corpses arrive on the Thursday cargo flights of Ethiopian Airlines)....I was present when 3 different families were in the manager's office to receive their slain sons......two of those families were represented by the aged biological fathers to the dead boys!....the third family, represented by a younger man in age...an uncle to the third corpse!

They were making small talks between themselves as they waited for the cargo (the coffins) to be disembarked.....(to be "off-loaded"wink!

One of them asked the other elder which city his son was in? He answered Jo'burg!....on further enquiry as to whether his own son was married, he retorted... No!....to which the first man commented that his own son has a son from a white South African.....and that the lady simply packaged some of the personal documents/items of his son and informed him of the date of the arrival of the son's corpse to Enugu but that she has blatantly refused all entreaties to accompany the corpse home!.....That they are certain that that son of his son (his grandson) would never return home to Nigeria!

The other silent man (the uncle to one of the dead) remarked that "his own family were indeed lucky in that their slain son had been coerced to come home and marry a Nigerian girl and has 2 kids (girls) already". Then told of his own story of seeking greener pastures in S. A. and how he couldn't fit into the street hustling..... According to him.......basically all IGBOS in S.A. are on the streets......from Hillbrow... Jo'burg to Capetown!....from Pretoria....to Durban!

He said he never bargained for such a life and quickly left his host....a maternal cousin and took his return ticket back home! That he has since engaged in his petty trading and is doing well enough and has 4 kids!

As this conversation was going on, I was quietly musing to myself:

How on earth could these gentlemen.....soft-spoken elderly men take all these agony......for surely it must be agony for them to be the ones burying their scions!....how could they sit in those swivel chairs in front of the manager and stoically be discussing the end of their eras??......do they have other sons and daughters probably??.... Maybe they did their best to counsel and chide their sons to desist from the fast lane and have accepted their sons' fates??

I wondered about their wives/mothers to those sons they would never behold again....not because they died from ailment or accident but simply because they sought wealth......this fleeting wealth the wrong way!

I wondered if they would heal or forgive their sons or they would look upon the wealth and groan in satisfaction that all was not lost after all??

I imagined myself in the shoes of their grief and I swore to myself that I would sooner let go such a son from my heart who refused to heed my counsel than be forced to mourn his untimely death in pursuit of meaningless riches!

I watched them file out of the office one after the other and shuddered unconsciously again!!

3. This will shock you...... Are you aware that Nigerians living in S. A. have literally turned little/young South African girls into strings of well-oiled prostitution rings?? .....I am talking of girls between the ages of 10-14 years old! These young South African girls are introduced.....scratch that!....these girls are immersed in drugs and turned to addicts and then they are set on the streets to be prostituted and their lives are effectively and totally wrecked! .....

Now put yourself in the shoes of these South Africans!

Would we all as Nigerians stomach a situation whereby in Lagos State or Anambra State or Bauchi State or Enugu State or Yobe State or a combination of those states, Kenyans or Zimbabweans or South Africans or people from neighboring Ghana would populate our cities....legitly or illegally and begin to sell drugs to our young men...turn our school girls into prostitutes....and litter our streets with dead bodies of their gang wars?

Would Lagosians allow their children to be used as pimps and prostitutes by FOREIGNERS who desecrate daily our value systems??

Would Enugu inhabitants allow Ghanaians to run our streets into crime zones.....such that we can't sleep at night and worry if our kids sent to schools are really at school or in a drug hotel somewhere sniffing white powders....and our girls violated daily sexually??

Wouldn't we someday just scream enough is enough and take up arms to rid our city of such devilish foreigners??

Are you aware that Indians populate a city in S.A. called Durban?? Do you know that Indians at one time recently, carried out systematic killings of Nigerians living in Durban??

What was the cause??....there was some Indian youths that were sold a harsh substance by the drug cartel which would literally liquefy the innards of the person leading to instant death!

These drug pushers know that this substance is adulterated and causes death (not addiction) yet they push it out there to their peddlers!

The Indians decided to help themselves and their community and embarked on a killing spree of Nigerians in Durban engaged in the drug business and left their calling cards in their victims!

Ask yourself this:

Did the South Africans begin to hate us all of a sudden or they had always hated us all these while??

How come we all used to migrate to South Africa easily and many of us married their girls (I know some friends who did and are still living happily with their wives) but now they hate us all??

OR

Would you close your eyes to the evil we Nigerians have unleashed in South Africa simply because we saved them from apartheid era?? So because we assisted them that now gives us the gumption to destroy their society like we've persistently done ours??

Some home grown truths will serve us in good stead here than this pontificating all over the place I plead!

Picture those attackers on our people....beating and burning them up as mothers or fathers or brothers or cousins who have lost a son or daughter or sibling to the cold hands of death by drug intake or whose virginity has been brutally lost and who is a human wreck to her society!

Before you cast your stone.....imagine that you lost your own dear child to crime...and not just any crime but one perpetrated by your own visitors!

My take on all these: NIGERIANS SHOULD FIRSTLY DEMAND THE CLEANUP OF SOUTH AFRICA and that includes the incaceration and/or deportation of these miscreants giving us all bad reputation in S.A.!

The drug war raging in that country engineered by our countrymen must be stopped!

Then the two countries should rapport to safeguard the lives and businesses of the many genuine Nigerians living and contributing to the economy of South Africa!

PS: Pls after reading this post, but before you start the deluge of insults upon me, kindly call up your own brother doing legitimate business in S.A. and he will confirm these facts to you as the absolute TRUTH!

Chinedum Agwaramgbo

Copied from Chinedum wall. I found it very interesting to share.

Bull crap!!! Do you know that many of the people commiting crimes in Nigeria are not even Nigerians? Do you know that many of the people killing Nigerians in Zamfara are not Nigerians but from Nigeria and Chad? Do you see Nigerians going around killing them? There is a way to deal with criminals and that is by cherrypicking them and making them face the law. Mob action on every Nigerian is not right and cannot be justified.

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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by Beremx(f): 12:14pm On Sep 06, 2019
T9ksy:



Yes ke! Invictus Obi is a saint in comparison to Tinubu but then, that's is your blinkered perspective but i won't rush off to tag you a bigot.

Who's going into dick measuring with you? Not me. Am well aware that you guys are the best thing since sliced bread grin

Btw, whatever became of the Ozobulu massacre? Was anyone arrested for the horrendous crime? Probably not as the main drug kingpin (in SA) is a friend of the then governor.
show me with proof of any Fulani herdsmen that have been arrested or convicted of massacre. Do you have any? Like I said earlier, don't absolve Igbos of crimes and portray others as saints. We have criminals in every ethnic group.

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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by APCLyingBastard: 12:17pm On Sep 06, 2019
Chanchit:


It's beyond reasoning because you lack the capacity to reason.
I believe in the analysis of the OP. And I think the federal government of Nigeria should collaborate with SA government to fish out these drug lords. SA should also perhaps change their laws to curb the excesses of the drug lords.

This is by far the daftest post here.

SA has police, customs and immigration service.

If they wanted to shut down the Nigerian drug gangs they can do it in 24hrs.

Corruption on their own part is why the drug gangs are still operating.

As I said these riots are endorsed by the racist ANC corrupt black politicians who are using foreigners as scape goats for the increasing crime wave and economic woes in their country.

Have you heard of any Nigerian or foreigner arrested for armed robbery, murder or rape?

These are the very same crimes SA is notorious around the globe for and it isn't for drug dealing.

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Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by Tallesty1(m): 12:49pm On Sep 06, 2019
Awol1:


You think I'm onye ofe mmanu? No, I'm not.

I'm just a guy who likes to enthrone reason over petty tribal whatever.

There's simple thing I want you to answer...

Are you aware, that not everything, including videos, that you gave seen recently is related to what is happening in SA?
What you're saying is that South African youths are killing drug dealers for selling drugs to them?
Re: I Have Lived In South Africa For Almost 20 Years. Hear Is My Experience by APCLyingBastard: 12:55pm On Sep 06, 2019
Zuma went on trial for raping his own niece who was HIV+.

Zuma denied it was rape and claimed it was consensual.

When asked if he was aware of her HIV status, Zuma said yes. When asked why he then chose not to use protection, Zuma will claim he had a shower immediately after he finished having sex.

This happened when he was a sitting president

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