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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by gamaliel9: 9:52pm On Sep 07, 2019
This goalkeeper Maduka Okoye...should be tested at u23....my head keeps wandering why Imama did not invite our match winners....I still see error of judgement until a case of financial fraud is raised against him....

DO NOT CHANGE A WINNING TEAM
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by mostob(m): 10:01pm On Sep 07, 2019
tbaba12345:
Commemting on social media does not mean, he does not train.
I know bro...that was just a dig at someone and she unsurprisingly didn't disappoint. she served her BILED words already.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Famocious(m):
18 players in Dnipro, Ukraine for Tuesday’s international friendly

#UKRNGA #SoarSuperEagles #Team9jaStrong.
Onuachu,
Okoye,
Aribo,
Ezenwa,
Balogun,
Ekong,
Iwobi,
Maja,
Collins,
Simon,
Idowu,
Uzoho,
Osimhen,
Chukwueze,
Kalu,
Esiti,
Etebo,
Dennis.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by mostob(m): 10:04pm On Sep 07, 2019
witorwitoutyou:
you don call am blockhead already na
ignore bro....ignore.. before she comes for you.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 10:15pm On Sep 07, 2019
benji93:
Reasonable point, but he's in a 4th-tier team bros, Sevilla B was in the Segunda division when Ondoa played for them. But how can you convincingly argue that Maduka is better than Akpeyi when his team is placed 15th in the 4th-tier. That's blasphemous.
Sevilla B is in the 3rd tier. Not a very high level either.

Let us not forget, Ondoa was not even playing at the time. Maduka is playing regularly, he is young and will improve over time. I have no problem having him as 3rd choice until he is ready.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:24pm On Sep 07, 2019
edi287:
Osimhen and Samu are confirmed SE players. Are they the only U23 players around? Would Rohr have called up Bonaventure if Imama invited him to the U23? What stopped him from inviting Okereke, Nwakali, Ejuke and many other talented U23 players we have? Is it Rohr's job to unearth talented U23 players or the other way around?
Samuel Chukwueze and victor Osimhen belong to the system what are you talking about? After you people will cry that we are hyping players when you don't want them to go through a growth process. They are in the age bracket and they should be with that team slugging it out with their mates.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:27pm On Sep 07, 2019
mostob:
I know bro...that was just a dig at someone and she unsurprisingly didn't disappoint. she served her BILED words already.
the fact you continue taking a stale dig shows you're the only one filled with bile.

Continue taking the dig, it will not remove Okoye from the list and it will not elevate your status enough for your opinion to matter. Why will I disappoint a fan?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 10:35pm On Sep 07, 2019
BascoVanVeli:
Samuel Chukwueze and victor Osimhen belong to the system what are you talking about? After you people will cry that we are hyping players when you don't want them to go through a growth process. They are in the age bracket and they should be with that team slugging it out with their mates.
What growth process? If you are good enough, you are old enough. Chukwueze is already becoming a regular fixture in the super eagles and Osimhen is likely to take over from Ighalo.

There are still enough talents who have not established themselves as part of the super eagles.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:02pm On Sep 07, 2019
tbaba1234:
What growth process? If you are good enough, you are old enough. Chukwueze is already becoming a regular fixture in the super eagles and Osimhen is likely to take over from Ighalo.

There are still enough talents who have not established themselves as part of the super eagles.
Who said they weren't good enough? They are in the age bracket for this competition and the coach should not even have to ask for their services. Nothing says you can't play U23s once you enter the super eagles. Look how many se players we had in the original dream team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:03pm On Sep 07, 2019
Osimhen is clearly the top CF in the Super Eagles since Ighalo's retirement. Rohr invited Osimhen for the Ukraine friendly and also stated he didn't invite some others because of the U23. My question to you is who would rohr have invited in Imama's list?

BascoVanVeli:
So would you pick Dennis over Osimhen? The question should always be about him then we can go from there.

He could have had only a certain number of foreign players to invite. The NFF would throw him under the bus if this was really his complete list.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:10pm On Sep 07, 2019
cheesy
safarigirl:
the fact you continue taking a stale dig shows you're the only one filled with bile.

Continue taking the dig, it will not remove Okoye from the list and it will not elevate your status enough for your opinion to matter. Why will I disappoint a fan?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:14pm On Sep 07, 2019
Belong to which system? They are so many untested players who if given a chance will do very well with the current u23. Because Sancho is 19 abi 20 why England no dey use am for their u21 team instead he is an integral part of the 3 lions team now.

Oga u no get yarn abeg. Imagine the likes of Okereke, Dennis, awoniyi, Ejike, Michael, Orji, gong, zubairu, Nwakali just to mention a few and here u re crying about not having chukwueze and oshimeh in the team? Mk una fear God ooooooo
BascoVanVeli:
Samuel Chukwueze and victor Osimhen belong to the system what are you talking about? After you people will cry that we are hyping players when you don't want them to go through a growth process. They are in the age bracket and they should be with that team slugging it out with their mates.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:19pm On Sep 07, 2019
Humility017:
pray Barnes step up to edge Tammy out or even someone else self
To what end exactly?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:37pm On Sep 07, 2019
Joebie:
Osimhen is clearly the top CF in the Super Eagles since Ighalo's retirement. Rohr invited Osimhen for the Ukraine friendly and also stated he didn't invite some others because of the U23. My question to you is who would rohr have invited in Imama's list?
Who was better than Okocha in 96? He still played on the dream team
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:39pm On Sep 07, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Belong to which system? They are so many untested players who if given a chance will do very well with the current u23. Because Sancho is 19 abi 20 why England no dey use am for their u21 team instead he is an integral part of the 3 lions team now.

Oga u no get yarn abeg. Imagine the likes of Okereke, Dennis, awoniyi, Ejike, Michael, Orji, gong, zubairu, Nwakali just to mention a few and here u re crying about not having chukwueze and oshimeh in the team? Mk una fear God ooooooo
The youth system. Abi didn't they win the U17 world cup for Nigeria or we they training with Rohr?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 11:50pm On Sep 07, 2019
BascoVanVeli:
Who was better than Okocha in 96? He still played on the dream team
did he play the qualifiers too? when it's time for the Olympics you'll see Osimhen and Co that's if their clubs will allow
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m):
Countdown to Ukraine vs Nigeria - Sept 10


18 players in Dnipro, Ukraine for Tuesday’s International Friendly.

Paul Onuachu (The Iroko), Maduka Okoye (Safarigirl's Newest catch), Joe Aribo (Son of Charlesemeka85), Ikechukwu Ezenwa (Custodian of Experience... Icon4s' distant baby cousin), Leon Balogun (Dean of Defence), William Troost Ekong (King Kong), Alexander Iwobi (New Lord of Blue Merseyside), Josh Maja (From Lion in a little league to mouse in a big league... so far grin ), Jamilu Collins (leftie), Simon Moses Ajala (backflips for free in france), Bryan Idowu (Back in the fold), Francis Uzoho (Super boy), Victor Osimhen (The Menace/The Supa Strika), Samuel Chukwueze (Robben Reloaded/Robben Evolution+ ), Samuel Kalu (New bundle of skills), Anderson Esiti (World's most physical), Peter Oghenekaro Etebo (The War tank), Emmanuel Dennis Bonaventure (The Dazzler).


Still expecting: Kelechi Iheanacho and Chidozie Awaziem.



Courtesy: @NGSuperEagles


Tick Tock...... tick tock

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:55pm On Sep 07, 2019
jihday:
did he play the qualifiers too? when it's time for the Olympics you'll see Osimhen and Co that's if their clubs will allow
Fine. Then don't ask for our best legs.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m):
All these just to defend a local coach's ass. U no get talk abeg. Free ur hrt and say no to sentiment
BascoVanVeli:
Who was better than Okocha in 96? He still played on the dream team
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m):
Oluwa abeg guide my son aribo make em perform cus many here re waiting 4 him to flop so they will call for my head cheesy
TheSuperNerd:
Countdown to Ukraine vs Nigeria - Sept 10


18 players in Dnipro, Ukraine for Tuesday’s International Friendly.

Paul Onuachu (The Iroko), Maduka Okoye (Safarigirl's Newest catch), Joe Aribo (Son of Charlesemeka85), Ikechukwu Ezenwa (Custodian of Experience... Icon4s' distant baby cousin), Leon Balogun (Dean of Defence), William Troost Ekong (King Kong), Alexander Iwobi (New Lord of Blue Merseyside), Josh Maja (From Lion in a little league to mouse in a big league... so far grin ), Jamilu Collins (leftie), Simon Moses Ajala (backflips for free in france), Bryan Idowu (Back in the fold), Francis Uzoho (Super boy), Victor Osimhen (The Menace/The Supa Strika), Samuel Chukwueze (Robben Reloaded/Robben Evolution+ ), Samuel Kalu (New bundle of skills), Anderson Esiti (World's most physical), Peter Oghenekaro Etebo (The War tank), Emmanuel Dennis Bonaventure (The Dazzler).


Still expecting: Kelechi Iheanacho and Chidozie Awaziem.



Courtesy: @NGSuperEagles


Tick Tock...... tick tock
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chucs: 1:04am On Sep 08, 2019
TheSuperNerd:
Countdown to Ukraine vs Nigeria - Sept 10


18 players in Dnipro, Ukraine for Tuesday’s International Friendly.

Paul Onuachu (The Iroko), Maduka Okoye (Safarigirl's Newest catch), Joe Aribo (Son of Charlesemeka85), Ikechukwu Ezenwa (Custodian of Experience... Icon4s' distant baby cousin), Leon Balogun (Dean of Defence), William Troost Ekong (King Kong), Alexander Iwobi (New Lord of Blue Merseyside), Josh Maja (From Lion in a little league to mouse in a big league... so far grin ), Jamilu Collins (leftie), Simon Moses Ajala (backflips for free in france), Bryan Idowu (Back in the fold), Francis Uzoho (Super boy), Victor Osimhen (The Menace/The Supa Strika), Samuel Chukwueze (Robben Reloaded/Robben Evolution+ ), Samuel Kalu (New bundle of skills), Anderson Esiti (World's most physical), Peter Oghenekaro Etebo (The War tank), Emmanuel Dennis Bonaventure (The Dazzler).


Still expecting: Kelechi Iheanacho and Chidozie Awaziem.



Courtesy: @NGSuperEagles


Tick Tock...... tick tock
Abeg easy with the names oo( Oke afa na egbu nwa bingo). My biggest joy will be to see our players learn to play as a team and avoid the unnecessary individual performances they are known for.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by benji93: 1:19am On Sep 08, 2019
Sevilla B is currently in the 3rd tier, but while Ondoa played for them they were in the 2nd tier. I will give you the argument that he wasn't playing regularly though. Like i said i am not overly concerned about this call-up since he won't play as the first choice goalkeeper, except that the call-up is kind of suspect, given that the guy is german-born. I understand that it's hard for goalkeepers to move up, and doing well for the national team sometimes provide the boost, but i still believe he should begin from the under-23 team, then moved up if he proves too good for that level. But i beg you gotta stop your "he plays regularly" cliche. There have been 6 games so far-excluding the last one, let's just say he was getting ready to represent his love, Nigeria, hehehe- but he only featured in two. He is competing against one Jannick Theissen. He is not as regular as you make it seem. Abi na which stats you dey check? Fear God ooo.
tbaba12345:
Sevilla B is in the 3rd tier. Not a very high level either.

Let us not forget, Ondoa was not even playing at the time. Maduka is playing regularly, he is young and will improve over time. I have no problem having him as 3rd choice until he is ready.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287:
BascoVanVeli:
Samuel Chukwueze and victor Osimhen belong to the system what are you talking about? After you people will cry that we are hyping players when you don't want them to go through a growth process. They are in the age bracket and they should be with that team slugging it out with their mates.
No they are officially SE players. Mbappe, Pavard, Dembouz, etc qualify for France U21 team but how many times do you see them playing for them?
Samu and Osimhen aren't facing world class competition and are very close to breaking into the starting 11 so why should they go back to the U23? We have a large U23 players pool... Imama is just being lazy.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 2:17am On Sep 08, 2019
BascoVanVeli:
Fine. Then don't ask for our best legs.
you just like standing logic on its head when it's about these local coaches
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 3:14am On Sep 08, 2019
benji93:
Sevilla B is currently in the 3rd tier, but while Ondoa played for them they were in the 2nd tier. I will give you the argument that he wasn't playing regularly though. Like i said i am not overly concerned about this call-up since he won't play as the first choice goalkeeper, except that the call-up is kind of suspect, given that the guy is german-born. I understand that it's hard for goalkeepers to move up, and doing well for the national team sometimes provide the boost, but i still believe he should begin from the under-23 team, then moved up if he proves too good for that level. But i beg you gotta stop your "he plays regularly" cliche. There have been 6 games so far-excluding the last one, let's just say he was getting ready to represent his love, Nigeria, hehehe- but he only featured in two. He is competing against one Jannick Theissen. He is not as regular as you make it seem. Abi na which stats you dey check? Fear God ooo.
In the 2016-2017 season, Sevilla B just gained promotion from the 3rd tier and they are back there now. The season before Ondoa only managed 5 appearances in the 3rd tier. When they got promoted to Liga 2, Ondoa played only 2 games all season.

Yet, he was first choice and led Cameroon to the title.

Maduka is first choice for Fortuna B and barring injuries, will play several games this season. He can only improve by playing games.

Maduka was injured at the start of the season and missed a few games. Theissen only played when Maduka was not fully fit and today, because Maduka has left for National duties. When both players are available this season, Maduka has started.

I watch their games and follow the team, i do not just follow stats.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by timay(m): 3:50am On Sep 08, 2019
BascoVanVeli:
Samuel Chukwueze and victor Osimhen belong to the system what are you talking about? After you people will cry that we are hyping players when you don't want them to go through a growth process. They are in the age bracket and they should be with that team slugging it out with their mates.
You are dull sir. It's not every young players that play Age grade football. some graduate to the senior team very early due to their talent or achievement. That's life and football in general.

The likes of Sancho of England didn't even play U20 let alone U21 after having a good season at Dortmund. He got into the senior team straight. Same with Mbappe. A lot of other examples too abound
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 5:07am On Sep 08, 2019
jihday:
did he play the qualifiers too? when it's time for the Olympics you'll see Osimhen and Co that's if their clubs will allow
Okocha played the qualifiers before the 1996 Olympics sir.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 5:15am On Sep 08, 2019
Taliban:
Okocha played the qualifiers before the 1996 Olympics sir.
I see, besides that's 23 yes ago sha
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by benji93: 5:18am On Sep 08, 2019
Your argument for Ondoa sounds reasonable, except that Onana refused a call-up, cos he preferred to seal a spot at Ajax when Cillessen left. If you can present facts pointing to the fact that that there were other goalkeepers competing in the first and second leagues of top European countries in the period leading up to Afcon 2017, then perhaps your argument can be taken seriously. If you check the other invited goalkeepers, one was playing for Coton sports in Cameroon and the other Ajaccio in Ligue 2. I could have considered the latter a better option for a starting role, but the fact that he currently plays for Tours FC in the fifth division of France shows he wasn't regular

For the bolded part, i honestly hate it. You are not being truthful. I am not even sure you watch the matches. Below is a picture of a matchday during which they were both available but Theissen was selected over him. I have two other pictures, one for matchday 33 last season and the other for matchday 1 this season. I don't know your agenda here. Unless you are disputing the posted line up or he had malaria on those days, you need to present a better argument why this guy deserves a call-up. I could argue that Maduka featured only when Theissen was injured or not fit, cos for every game Maduka featured Theissen was never on the bench.
tbaba1234:
In the 2016-2017 season, Sevilla B just gained promotion from the 3rd tier and they are back there now. The season before Ondoa only managed 5 appearances in the 3rd tier. When they got promoted to Liga 2, Ondoa played only 2 games all season.

Yet, he was first choice and led Cameroon to the title.

Maduka is first choice for Fortuna B and barring injuries, will play several games this season. He can only improve by playing games.

Maduka was injured at the start of the season and missed a few games. Theissen only played when Maduka was not fully fit and today, because Maduka has left for National duties. When both players are available this season, Maduka has started.

I watch their games and follow the team, i do not just follow stats.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 5:26am On Sep 08, 2019
benji93:
Your argument for Ondoa sounds reasonable, except that Onana refused a call-up, cos he preferred to seal a spot at Ajax when Cillessen left. If you can present facts pointing to the fact that that there were other goalkeepers competing in the first and second leagues of top European countries in the period leading up to Afcon 2017, then perhaps your argument can be taken seriously. If you check the other invited goalkeepers, one was playing for Coton sports in Cameroon and the other Ajaccio in Ligue 2. I could have considered the latter a better option for a starting role, but the fact that he currently plays for Tours FC in the fifth division of France shows he wasn't regular

For the bolded part, i honestly hate it. You are not being truthful. I am not even sure you watch the matches. Below is a picture of a matchday during which they were both available but Theissen was selected over him. I have two other pictures, one for matchday 33 last season and the other for matchday 1 this season. I don't know your agenda here. Unless you are disputing the posted line up or he had malaria on those days, you need to present a better argument why this guy deserves a call-up. I could argue that Maduka featured only when Theissen was injured or not fit, cos for every game Maduka featured Theissen was never on the bench.
See Maduka fixtures below: You can see clearly that a surgery kept him out earlier in the season. And for the last game he had already joined up with Nigeria.

Maduka is coming in as third choice. Plus it is a friendly. He will not see any minutes most likely.

Ondoa was first choice for Cameroon playing for Sevilla B with barely any game time and gave a good account of himself.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by benji93: 6:12am On Sep 08, 2019
What kind of argument are you presenting? Your picture clearly shows he was benched on day 1 this season. Meanwhile, i have pictures in which he was benched on days 33 and 34 last season. Why would he make the bench if he is not fit? Or is that how they do it in the 4th-tier ?

Bros, honestly, why are you thinking like this? I just mentioned why Ondoa started for Cameroon throughout the 2017 nations cup. It was because Onana didn't honor a call-up. And that moment, they probably didn't have better players. If you think they did, present facts- I also mentioned the teams of the other players they called. If you wanna try any goalkeeper it's not a 4th-tier, not even when he plays regularly.

1. I am not disputing your last statement. Far from it. That's actually a sense of relief. My argument was that he doesn't deserve a call-up at all. You claimed he does, and i have presented evidence of matches in which he was fit but on the bench. You don't seem to understand my point.
2. His record is so bleeping strange, according to his record of injuries, he was fine between September 30, 2018 and June 30, 2019- note that i have allowed a period of one week before recovery from one injury and recovery from the next. He missed the last four matches, although nothing shows that he was ill or injured. What kind of argument is this self. Are you a close relative or something? The guy cannot even stay healthy-He was either ill or injured three times in 2018. In short he doesn't deserve a call-up based on fitness. grin. You might think the aforementioned supports your point but it doesn't, cos the guys record can be likened to a walking time bomb. I beg just forget it. I wish him all the best.
tbaba1234:
See Maduka fixtures below: You can see clearly that a surgery kept him out earlier in the season. And for the last game he had already joined up with Nigeria.

Maduka is coming in as third choice. Plus it is a friendly. He will not see any minutes most likely.

Ondoa was first choice for Cameroon playing for Sevilla B with barely any game time and gave a good account of himself.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:59am On Sep 08, 2019
tbaba12345:
What exactly is Nigerian football culture?? Bribery and corruption??

If a player is good enough, eligible for Nigeria and willing to play, the he can be invited to the senior team.
Thank you

Spain, Germany, Brazil, Italy, England, etc have football culture that is expressed on the field of play as thier style and methodology of playing.

What is the Nigerian one ❓

People need to understand that thier is huge gulf between senior first team football and youth football. We keep using youth football to assess players ability in the present it's FUTILE.

In today environment most progressive national U21 teams will have played at least two seasons of first team football at a competitive level.

Selection has one yardstick ability not assumption about loyalty.

If Nigerian birthed and sourced players were good enough and they could change loyalty and get the passport of another first world nation immediately. How many of our players would have changed allegiance. Think about it.

The source of this particular discourse not you is being BIGOTED and Prejudiced.
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