HarunaWest:

The current chief of Air Staff is short Service, a former chief of army staff was SSC...so what are u saying?

OGA Ade....Kenneth minimar was not SSC ..get your fact right...the present chief on naval staff is not a DSSC..He enlisted into the Nigerian Defence Academy as a member of 26 Regular Course on 20 June 1979 and was commissioned Sub-Lieutenant on 1 January 1983.I don't know why people confidently say what they don't know

TRIGITIS:
[b][/b]
Meaning Ashiedu is a university graduate.

But a university graduate as a junior sailor?

Personally, I don't really see any big deal here o.

For the unintelligent ignoramuses who might start disturbing my mention, there is a difference between officers and sailors. Officers are university graduates while sailors are not.

The man with 3 yellow bars on his shoulders is the only officer in the 2nd picture, the rest are sailors.

So what exactly are you trying to say here...
Maybe he should leave America and come back to Nigeria because he is a graduate?

TRIGITIS:
[b][/b]
Meaning Ashiedu is a university graduate.

But a university graduate as a junior sailor?

Personally, I don't really see any big deal here o.

For the unintelligent ignoramuses who might start disturbing my mention, there is a difference between officers and sailors. Officers are university graduates while sailors are not.

The man with 3 yellow bars on his shoulders is the only officer in the 2nd picture, the rest are sailors.

to be a sailor in u.s navy,no be maimai ooo

AntiBalaka:


Can a non NDA officer hold command position?

Stop spewing trash!

Bro, you are correct in some instance and wrong in some... there is something called "Regularisation"- where you convert from Short service to full regular commissioning same with NDA counterparts..
.
and I am on SSC and I'm commanding a unit here in Kodunga.

DeOTR:

Say only what you know please.
Stop annoying me here.

OGA is very correct ...say what you are sure of...no non NDA commissioned officer can hold a commanding position ..that's a fact..

DeOTR:

Say only what you know please.
Stop annoying me here.

I think he's right.

A SSC captain or major is different from their DSSC counterpart.

SSC are combatants and usually in the infantry or artilery. DSSC are usually in the corps. Doctors (Health,) , education ( teachers at NDA or these military secondary schools), accounts , engineering, law (military police ) etc.

That's what I think.. and their power different. SSC commands more than their DSSC counterpart.

NewDelhi:

So I have some questions to ask.

Does that mean a captain combatant (ssc) is different from a captain dssc (let's say medical or accounts)
Do they both have the same power and can a dssc officer who is in the medicals or law give orders to soldiers ? I mean arranging them for one dirty operation or to deal with someone ?

Cc AntiBalaka TRIGI.TIS

They both have same status. They both have authority over soldiers, no difference.

The only difference between the two is if the dssc did not convert and the only effect is that he will retire after 15 yrs.

TRIGITIS:

They both have same status. They both have authority over soldiers, no difference.

The only difference between the two is if the dssc did not convert and the only effect is that he will retire after 15 yrs.

No you're wrong.. The authority you're talking about is different...

A DSSC "CANNOT" command soldiers. It's limited. That authority is meant for the SSC people.. SSC are the real soldiers. You'd fear a captain Combatant than you'd fear a captain doctor.

TRIGITIS:

Oga, by Short Service, you mean their stay in the military will be for short period, and I have told you already that they get converted to have same status as their NDA trained counterparts.

Again, when you say holding command, short service officers are holding commands in the army very well. Some of them are given the command of battalions and even higher.

When you talk about professional, I think you are getting it very wrong. Check their requirements when they advertise for recruitment, it cuts across almost all courses studied in the universities.

I also know they are taken into all the corps of the army such as infantry, armour, these are the ones I know.

we mostly argue things we are less aware of......short service officers are seen as nobody in the military ...just get that fact....the NDA commissioned officers has the military hierarchy...

micflo28:
Afonja Come and see that IGBO AMAKA

Always calling on d superior to come see d little achievement u've made.

HarunaWest:

The current chief of Air Staff is short Service, a former chief of army staff was SSC...so what are u saying?

Are you sure of this information?? Please don't pass wrong information... No former COAS was ever from SSC they are all regular officers... The highest I've seen a SSC/DSSC is a Major Gen....or equivalent

AntiBalaka:


The highest rank a short service officer can attain is Colonel and this is reserved only to senior professionals without going to War College.

The highest tenure is 10yrs also.

And they are never given command positions in whatever form as they are not trained military strategists and soldiers but rather occupy only non-command positions.

Guy forget that, the Nigerian Army has SSC & DSS ,You are talking about DSS, cause as an SSC immediately after concluding all ur training na warfront straight.

DON'T BELIEVE ME, APPLY & SEE FOR URSELF

NewDelhi:

I think he's right.

A SSC captain or major is different from their DSSC counterpart.

SSC are combatants and usually in the infantry or artilery. DSSC are usually in the corps. Doctors (Health,) , education ( teachers at NDA or these military secondary schools), accounts , engineering, law (military police ) etc.

That's what I think.. and their power different. SSC commands more than their DSSC counterpart.

You obviously don't know the military.

Both ssc and dssc are short service.

Short Service Combatants. - SSC
Direct Short Service Course - DSSC

Perhaps you are mistaking the NDA graduates for SSC. They call them Regular Officers.

borngeologist:
this guy is not In the military and is arguing as if what he his saying his right. Bro you got it totally wrong.. Was you are commissioned/enlisted into the military.. You would be able to serve for 35 years of active military service

Bros! Bros! Bros! how many times did I call you?

MrMicholo:

Bro, you are correct in some instance and wrong in some... there is something called "Regularisation"- where you convert from Short service to full regular commissioning same with NDA counterparts..
.
and I am on SSC and I'm commanding a unit here in Kodunga.

We pray for ur success & safety at all times, You shall always decimate ur enemies and always come home to see ur family by the Grace of God. Amen

TRIGITIS:

Pls which military are you talking about?

Because I know two graduates from my school commissioned into the Nigerian military.

And for the college training military officers, Nigeria has NDA Kaduna solely for this purpose.

I also understand they can convert to be of same status with the NDA trained officers.

They can only be converted bt can never be on the same level. U think a lucrative appointment would be given to a Civil University graduate Officer when there is an NDA Officer available that trained vigorously for 5years with civil courses inclusive? Think of it too nah, Ask me if u want to knw more.

AntiBalaka:


Can a non NDA officer hold command position?

Stop spewing trash!

ur being corrected and ur still confidently saying gibberish..... most ssc guys hold command position......


N/B.....dont bother quoting me..... I don't reply simpletons

NewDelhi:


No you're wrong.. The authority you're talking about is different...

A DSSC "CANNOT" command soldiers. It's limited. That authority is meant for the SSC people.. SSC are the real soldiers. You'd fear a captain Combatant than you'd fear a captain doctor.

You obviously don't know the military.

Infact, you are not even getting the nomenclature properly.

Both ssc and dssc are short service officers, get this into your skull.

Congratulations Ike.

TRIGITIS:

Oga, by Short Service, you mean their stay in the military will be for short period, and I have told you already that they get converted to have same status as their NDA trained counterparts.

Again, when you say holding command, short service officers are holding commands in the army very well. Some of them are given the command of battalions and even higher.

When you talk about professional, I think you are getting it very wrong. Check their requirements when they advertise for recruitment, it cuts across almost all courses studied in the universities.

I also know they are taken into all the corps of the army such as infantry, armour, these are the ones I know.

I was informed when I bought short service form that the highest a short service officer will ever get in the Nigerian military is the equivalent of Major General. In fact, 50% of short service cadet will retire as Colonels, 30% as Lt. Colonels, 10% as Majors and only less that 5% would reach their limit which is Major General while the rest will go down one way or another.

As an analogy, a graduate of B.A English Language will never be promoted to the full rank of a Director or Education in my state Ministry of Education despite his graduate status and will be limited to the rank of Deputy Director of Education. To reach that highest rank, he must have a B.Ed English or English language Education, NCE, PGDE or any other relevant qualification that makes him qualified to be registered by the Teachers Registration Council of Nigeria.

This is obtainable in so many professional disciplines so i wouldn't be surprised if a graduate in the US Navy will be so limited.

PeaceGord:

You nailed it.

Tigritis nailed it wella too with examples and proof.

That guy doesn't understand the concept of SSC and DSSC.


Argue not with ignorant people.

They'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

By saying he is ignorant you are insulting him. The truth still remains that, was it not for the fact that he started the argument, a lot of people here wouldn't have known which of the two arguments is indeed the fact. Like or hate it, the argument was an intelligent one and people have learnt a thing or two.

Would you guys mind not insulting people when dropping your opinion?

Kenturkey048:
OGA is very correct ...say what you are sure of...no non NDA commissioned officer can hold a commanding position ..that's a fact..

And you don't know most of them get commissioned into the regular service?

Dagger111:





They can only be converted bt can never be on the same level. U think a lucrative appointment would be given to a Civil University graduate Officer when there is an NDA Officer available that trained vigorously for 5years with civil courses inclusive? Think of it too nah, Ask me if u want to knw more.

This is just your thinking, go to the barracks and find out what's happening.

Both regular officers and dssc officers get same treatment, I'm not telling you to agree with me o. I no fit shout.

AntiBalaka:


The highest rank a short service officer can attain is Colonel and this is reserved only to senior professionals without going to War College.

The highest tenure is 10yrs also.

And they are never given command positions in whatever form as they are not trained military strategists and soldiers but rather occupy only non-command positions.

Don't be Misguided Bro, after induction into short service you are considered a non combatant but you can convert into a regular officer and be a combatant and also have a long stay in the force as other regulars just obviously there's a discrimination and also as a short service personnel you can head your directorate and not infantry and co I agree on this, I stand to be corrected out present Chief of Air staff got In through the short service tho it's rare to get to this height only if you are politically inclined, Lastly, Due to the Boko Haram issue anyone enlisted into the short service is almost forced into the regular service like it's easier than others were politics meant be required but the need for men erased the earlier stated part.

Rafiq2:



We pray for ur success & safety at all times, You shall always decimate ur enemies and always come home to see ur family by the Grace of God. Amen

Amen and thank you sire.

AntiBalaka:


The highest rank a short service officer can attain is Colonel and this is reserved only to senior professionals without going to War College.

The highest tenure is 10yrs also.

And they are never given command positions in whatever form as they are not trained military strategists and soldiers but rather occupy only non-command positions.

You just keep ranting about things u know nothing about.Some Generals today came in through short service commission. There is a difference BTW DSSC and SSC

I agree with u even my daughter who just graduated from high school is been inducted into American Air Force last May.

TRIGITIS:
[b][/b]
Meaning Ashiedu is a university graduate.

But a university graduate as a junior sailor?

Personally, I don't really see any big deal here o.

For the unintelligent ignoramuses who might start disturbing my mention, there is a difference between officers and sailors. Officers are university graduates while sailors are not.

The man with 3 yellow bars on his shoulders is the only officer in the 2nd picture, the rest are sailors.

The zoo will see what they never expected

How do I join the u.s navy?

TRIGITIS:
[b][/b]
Meaning Ashiedu is a university graduate.

But a university graduate as a junior sailor?

Personally, I don't really see any big deal here o.

For the unintelligent ignoramuses who might start disturbing my mention, there is a difference between officers and sailors. Officers are university graduates while sailors are not.

The man with 3 yellow bars on his shoulders is the only officer in the 2nd picture, the rest are sailors.

So Naval officers aren't sailors?

I believe by 'sailor', u meant 'rating'.