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Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by kingxsamz(m): 11:26pm On Sep 14, 2019
Ndukings92:
Some people are too myopic, we are taught that he new every thing from the end to d beginning. how come he did not know that Adam and Eve will sin that soon?the all knowing somebody,the sin we are talking about is just to pluck a fruit from d tree they were told not to and just because of that he changed his mind from allowing them to enjoy and live till eternity. nawaooo,and when u try to ask question u will be asked to shut up and have faith or that u have been posses by an evil spirit.ndia di egwu
My brother, the matter just weak me...I swear

Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by Dantedasz(m): 6:38am On Sep 15, 2019
kingxsamz:
You guys always find a way to dodge a question.
Okay...
Are you admitting that God knew beforehand that Adam and Eve would sin against him and did nothing to prevent that from happening?
Give me a straight forward answer without trying to give me some fvcking sermon.

Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by Ndukings92(m): 7:59am On Sep 15, 2019
Chosen1984:
so GOD Makes you to sin?

You have a choice.. if u choose to sin you Face the Consequences.. GOD ALMIGHTY does not make us sin..

Sin is the Hinderance btw man and GOD..

Sin alters GOD'S plan for Man

GOD HATES SIN. HE is too pure to behold Sin. That's why u hv a Chance to HIS Mercy.. HIS Mercy does not come to you if u don't ask..

Take Responsibility for your Choices.. Take Responsibility for your lifestyle
what is this one saying?he asked u a simple question, he is all knowing and we agreed.this means that he knew that Adam and Eve will sin,and that he will void d very promise he made to them from d unset which is everlasting life abi?what type of twist was that?
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by Nobody: 8:55am On Sep 15, 2019
Ndukings92:
what is this one saying?he asked u a simple question, he is all knowing and we agreed.this means that he knew that Adam and Eve will sin,and that he will void d very promise he made to them from d unset which is everlasting life abi?what type of twist was that?
Ask GOD for Knowledge my brother.. you Eyes need to be opened!

Every Answer you need is in my Summation..
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by Nobody: 8:58am On Sep 15, 2019
kingxsamz:
You guys always find a way to dodge a question.
Okay...
Are you admitting that God knew beforehand that Adam and Eve would sin against him and did nothing to prevent that from happening?
Give me a straight forward answer without trying to give me some fvcking sermon.
Ask GOD For Understanding.. you need it Seriously!

Every Answer you need is in my Summation..
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by kingxsamz(m): 12:12pm On Sep 15, 2019
Chosen1984:
Ask GOD For Understanding.. you need it Seriously!

Every Answer you need is in my Summation..
grin grin grin
I'm asking u a simple question so that I can understand more about the religion that you practice, and you're telling me to ask God...
Yeah, that's very logical. grin
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by Nobody: 1:28pm On Sep 15, 2019
kingxsamz:
grin grin grin
I'm asking u a simple question so that I can understand more about the religion that you practice, and you're telling me to ask God...
Yeah, that's very logical. grin
you don't need Religion! You Need JESUS CHRIST! Dts all
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by kingxsamz(m): 1:30pm On Sep 15, 2019
Chosen1984:
you don't need Religion! You Need JESUS CHRIST! Dts all
Okay, I've heard you.
Now please answer my question.
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by Nobody: 1:33pm On Sep 15, 2019
kingxsamz:
Okay, I've heard you.
Now please answer my question.
Go through all my Summations! Your Answers are Right der!
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by kingxsamz(m): 1:36pm On Sep 15, 2019
Chosen1984:
Go through all my Summations! Your Answers are Right der!
Smh..
What's stopping you from giving me the answers here?
I only asked a simple question.
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by Nobody: 1:37pm On Sep 15, 2019
kingxsamz:
Smh..
What's stopping you from giving me the answers here?
I only asked a simple question.
what Question?
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by kingxsamz(m): 1:43pm On Sep 15, 2019
Chosen1984:
what Question?
Are you admitting that God knew beforehand that Adam and Eve would sin against him and did nothing to prevent that from happening?
Answer... smiley
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by Nobody: 1:48pm On Sep 15, 2019
kingxsamz:
Are you admitting that God knew beforehand that Adam and Eve would sin against him and did nothing to prevent that from happening?
Answer... smiley
1. NO

2.
Genesis 2:16-17
16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by kingxsamz(m): 1:59pm On Sep 15, 2019
Chosen1984:
1. NO

2.
Genesis 2:16-17
16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
So God didn't know they were going to sin against him...
Okay...now...
Doesn't that disapprove the fact that he's been regarded as omniscient?
Because if he was that would mean he was able to fortell that Adam and Eve would sin against him.
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by MuttleyLaff: 3:22pm On Sep 15, 2019
kingxsamz:
You guys always find a way to dodge a question.
Okay...
Are you admitting that God knew beforehand that Adam and Eve would sin against him and did nothing to prevent that from happening?
Give me a straight forward answer without trying to give me some fvcking sermon.
Yes, as being all knowing omniscient God, He knew

kingxsamz:
Are you admitting that God knew beforehand that Adam and Eve would sin against him and did nothing to prevent that from happening?
Answer... smiley
Of course yes, that God knew beforehand that Adam and Eve would sin against him, but in fairness, you must admit, God did warn against it, in order to prevent it happening now.

Chosen1984:
1. NO

2.Genesis 2:16-17
16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
kingxsamz:
So God didn't know they were going to sin against him...
Okay...now...
Doesn't that disapprove the fact that he's been regarded as omniscient?
Because if he was that would mean he was able to fortell that Adam and Eve would sin against him.
His comment didnt come out the way he meant it, so just disregard the No answer
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by kingxsamz(m): 4:16pm On Sep 15, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Yes, as being all knowing omniscient God, He knew

Of course yes, that God knew beforehand that Adam and Eve would sin against him, but in fairness, you must admit, God did warn against it, in order to prevent it happening now.



His comment didnt come out the way he meant it, so just disregard the No answer
So why did God still warn them against eating the fruit when he knows cleary that they'll eventually eat it?
And if God actually knew from the beginning that Adam and Eve's sin would bring about death and suffering into the world he created, why didn't he prevent it? Wouldn't that mean that God's plan right from the beginning was to bring suffering and death to the world?

It's like seeing a little boy playing near a fire which you know would definitely hurt him, and then you tell the boy to stop, that he might hurt himself. But he doesn't listen, but instead of you to take him out of there or put the fire out, you let him play and get himself hurt, and on top of that that you punish him for it.



Think deeply about what I just said and give me a good answer.
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by MuttleyLaff: 4:46pm On Sep 15, 2019
kingxsamz:
So why did God still warn them against eating the fruit when he knows cleary that they'll eventually eat it?
Any responsible other person will at the very least warn against eating the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil and that is exactly what God did

kingxsamz:
And if God actually knew from the beginning that Adam and Eve's sin would bring about death and suffering into the world he created,
This wasnt classified information nau, Adam and Eve were dutifully informed about how death would come about nau

kingxsamz:
why didn't he prevent it?
The only way to prevent it, was not to eat off the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, period. The command not to eat, is prevention enough

kingxsamz:
Wouldn't that mean that God's plan right from the beginning was to bring suffering and death to the world?
No that is not God's plan from the beginning. The plan(s) God had from the beginning, is for good and not for disaster, to give a future and a hope. Plans to bless with a future filled with hope, a future of success, not of suffering. God's plan right from the beginning was thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give a positive expected end. To give hope in the latter end.

kingxsamz:
It's like seeing a little boy playing near a fire which you know would definitely hurt him, and then you tell the boy to stop, that he might hurt himself. But he doesn't listen, but instead of you to take him out of there or put the fire out, you let him play and get himself hurt, and on top of that that you punish him for it.
Well, Adam was a boy, neither was Eve a girl, the two were grown arse adults. Who were well equipped to understand the consequence of openly disregarding and showing contempt for the expressed word of God. Do you notice that after the rebelling against God's warning words and after refusing to obey the command not to eat off Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil that neither Adam, Eve or the serpent questioned God why He put the tree there in the first place in the garden, huh?

kingxsamz:
Think deeply about what I just said and give me a good answer.
Think deeply and thoroughly about what I typed concerning Adam and Eve not holding it against God putting the tree accessibly and easily approached, in the garden. Do you think Adam didnt know or understand the implication of eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, erhn?

I can go on, but will pause until when a window of opportunity opens to take advantage off, to share more with you.
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by Nobody: 5:15pm On Sep 15, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Yes, as being all knowing omniscient God, He knew

Of course yes, that God knew beforehand that Adam and Eve would sin against him, but in fairness, you must admit, God did warn against it, in order to prevent it happening now.



His comment didnt come out the way he meant it, so just disregard the No answer
We are Created like GOD.. in HIS Image.. saying GOD knew Adam and Eve will sin, does not Come into play..

We as Human beings created in GOD'S Have the Capacity and Capability to do what we want....

Adam and Eve sinned by Themselves.. GOD did not Expect them to do it.. Neither did He Program them to sin..
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by Nobody: 5:23pm On Sep 15, 2019
kingxsamz:
So God didn't know they were going to sin against him...
Okay...now...
Doesn't that disapprove the fact that he's been regarded as omniscient?
Because if he was that would mean he was able to fortell that Adam and Eve would sin against him.
It does not!
Man is Made in the Image and likeness of GOD ALMIGHTY..

Man has the Capacity and Capability of GOD.

Man Is Fully Responsible for His Actions and Choices.. GOD ALMIGHTY Shows us the Right way but tells you the Choice is yours.

GOD ALMIGHTY did not Program Man to sin.. Dts why HE gets Hurt when we sin...

Take Responsibility for your life, decisions and Choices.. so u don't blame GOD
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by MuttleyLaff:
Chosen1984:
We are Created like GOD.. in HIS Image.. saying GOD knew Adam and Eve will sin, does not Come into play..

We as Human beings created in GOD'S Have the Capacity and Capability to do what we want....

Adam and Eve sinned by Themselves.. GOD did not Expect them to do it.. Neither did He Program them to sin..
Nwanne, God knows the end from the beginning, biko jor. The creature and creation are not bigger or greater than God, the Creator. God knew they will sin, it is a bitter pill that had to be swallowed, if the issue of the imminent ugly rearing head of sin is to be dealt with
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by Ndukings92(m): 8:55pm On Sep 17, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Nwanne, God knows the end from the beginning, biko jor. The creature and creation are not bigger or greater than God, the Creator. God knew they will sin, it is a bitter pill that had to be swallowed, if the issue of the imminent ugly rearing head of sin is to be dealt with
Guy the way and mannerisms in which u guys dodge questions is pathetic and appalling, He knew they will still eat de fruit and still warn them because its a bitter pill that had to be swallow.what type of write up is that?Had it been Adam and Even did not sin won't it void another of u guys believe that "instead of his word not to come to pass,that d earth will come to stop?" why are u guys beating around d bush?ur book abi bible abi na his word is a double edge sword indeed, u guys don't even know d one to answer.just one commandment "don't eat d fruit" Adam could not keep,how can any of u keep una 10 commandments?
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by budaatum: 12:54am On Sep 18, 2019
LordReed:
My dear buda, you know that I do not struggle with these things, I merely report them.
I know nothing of the sort my Lord, and in fact think you read it, and thought about it, and wondered about it, and thought of us here, and the impact it might have, then posted it here for us to read too so you can see our reactions and perhaps engage you in conversation.

Except, now, you struggle. Or don't you, my Lord?
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by MuttleyLaff: 6:20am On Sep 18, 2019
Ndukings92:
Guy the way and mannerisms in which u guys dodge questions is pathetic and appalling
Nwanne calm down biko. Now who in particular are you accusing of dodging questions and what questions in particular allegedly are or were dodged?

Ndukings92:
He knew they will still eat de fruit and still warn them because its a bitter pill that had to be swallow. What type of write up is that?
It is a write up that is an aftermath and/or consequence of questions asked

Just because God knew they will still eat de fruit doesnt absolve or free Him of His moral duty/responsibility to warn them against not taking what is not theirs. Adam and Eve after all were adults, werent they, hmm?

Ndukings92:
Had it been Adam and Even did not sin won't it void another of u guys believe that "instead of his word not to come to pass, that d earth will come to stop?"
I think you might want to retry saying this because it isnt coming out right and understandable the way it should

Ndukings92:
why are u guys beating around d bush? ur book abi bible abi na his word is a double edge sword indeed, u guys don't even know d one to answer. just one commandment "don't eat d fruit" Adam could not keep, how can any of u keep una 10 commandments?
Nwanne, no guys anywhere are beating about the bush. Just one commandment was the whole idea. If you can manage to keep just that one commandment, there wouldnt be the need for 10 commandments or more.

Impatience, lack of self-control, indiscipline and unable to keep and hold it together made them eat the fruit and so the history we have
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by LordReed(op): 8:21am On Sep 18, 2019
budaatum:
I know nothing of the sort my Lord, and in fact think you read it, and thought about it, and wondered about it, and thought of us here, and the impact it might have, then posted it here for us to read too so you can see our reactions and perhaps engage you in conversation.

Except, now, you struggle. Or don't you, my Lord?
My dear buda we have had this discussion a couple of times now, the answer remains the same. Yes it is interesting to discuss these things but they do not keep me awake at night. It is fascinating to look at this from the perspective of nonbelief and that's something I am sure you agree with.
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by budaatum: 9:32am On Sep 18, 2019
LordReed:
My dear buda we have had this discussion a couple of times now, the answer remains the same. Yes it is interesting to discuss these things but they do not keep me awake at night. It is fascinating to look at this from the perspective of nonbelief and that's something I am sure you agree with.
You may not exactly "struggle" or "keep awake at night" my Lord, but the magnitude of your posts on such topics and your "fascination", is worth considering, in my own opinion.
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by Ndukings92(m): 9:32am On Sep 18, 2019
Muttleyleaf baba did I just read it correctly? u wrote "that the idea was" but "because of Adam and Eve's inpatients, reason what u just wrote my brother. its not about knowing everything from d end to d beginning, its now his or an IDEA.am not against ur belief bro cos am born catholic,baptism holy communion and confirmation. but am now grown,I now reason,argue and learn.I now experiment and observe baba.its so complicated and when we try to ask questions to understand, they will tell us to keep calm and have FAITH.FAITH!!! if u can't explain it simple that means u don't even understood it well.
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by sonmvayina(m): 10:19am On Sep 18, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Nwanne, God knows the end from the beginning, biko jor. The creature and creation are not bigger or greater than God, the Creator. God knew they will sin, it is a bitter pill that had to be swallowed, if the issue of the imminent ugly rearing head of sin is to be dealt with
Sin was part of God's plan from the beginning, take it or leave it...
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by LordReed(op): 10:48am On Sep 18, 2019
budaatum:
You may not exactly "struggle" or "keep awake at night" my Lord, but the magnitude of your posts on such topics and your "fascination", is worth considering, in my own opinion.
Yes because I have said I do not claim I know. I leave open the possibility that I am not seeing something.
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by MuttleyLaff: 11:11am On Sep 18, 2019
sonmvayina:
Sin was part of God's plan from the beginning, take it or leave it...
Of course, it was. Of course, sin was part of the main problem(s) God was working on to get rid of, once and for all
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by sonmvayina(m): 7:43pm On Sep 28, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Of course, it was. Of course, sin was part of the main problem(s) God was working on to get rid of, once and for all
Working?? Hmm you really don't know what God is and is not... Why don't you start from there..
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by MuttleyLaff: 7:50pm On Sep 28, 2019
sonmvayina:
Working?
Yes working. Or would you rather, I should have said God was playing or toying on to get rid of sin, once and for all ni?

sonmvayina:
Hmm you really don't know what God is and is not...
https://i2.wp.com/redeeminggod.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/log-in-eye.jpg
Good on ya, that I dont really don't know what God is and is not, just don't forget to mind the long and big "plank of pride" in your eye before the little "speck" in mine. OK?

Isnt it weird and amazing that sometimes when you remove the log from your own eyes, you will see that the other person had no speck there after all the suspicions.

sonmvayina:
Why don't you start from there..
Why dont you speak for yourself
Re: Why Didn't Jesus Die For Adam And Eve? by enilove(m): 9:45pm On Sep 28, 2019
The death of Jesus is not only for those that came after his death, it covers even Adam and Eve :


John 5:26-29 KJV
For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
[27] And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. [28] Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the GRAVES shall hear his voice,
[29] And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
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