cooltony91:
URGENT.
Who pays for the Accommodation during StopOver in Turkey, You or TurkishAirline?
Thanks

. Turkish Airline.

Whitemagic:

HI... Pls what is Pforzheim about?

. I will send you something now but it is a very long info wait!!!

holadhayor1:
Good morning all,
Did anyone use SL from Pforzheim lately?

. READ THIS NOTE:: THIS IS NOT MY POST BUT I GOT IT ON THIS THREAD AS WELL. /b]This important information is for all winter semester applicants and future ones that will be using Verpflichtungserklarung fur studium (Sponsorship Letter, sl), please read carefully all that is involved using sl and how the embassy operates with it.[b]

Firstly, I want to let you know that using a Verpflichtungserklarung fur studium does not guarantee the issuance of student visa (I don’t care where you will be getting it from whether issued by a family, an acquaintance, or you paid), you stand the same chance as every other applicant using Blocked account. If you are using sl, you can still be rejected on the basis that your sponsor is not capable. The rejection is always in this form from the embassy.

“Your secured subsistence cost is not ensured in Germany”
“There are doubts regarding your secured subsistence cost in Germany”

Now I know you want to ask me why the office in Germany gave your sponsor the letter if he wasn’t capable to sponsor you in the first place. I want you to know that different cities/town in Germany have their own criteria in giving out the sl. Let’s take a case like the Auslanderbehorde in Munich, if your sponsor is living in Munich which is the most expensive city in Germany, as of September 2018, your sponsor must be earning 1,880 Euro monthly before tax to sponsor 1 person if he is single (and must be earning 2,610 Euro to sponsor 2 people), if he has a kid living with him or married without kid, he must be earning 2,300 Euro monthly before tax to sponsor 1 person (and must be earning 3,040 Euro to sponsor 2 people), if he is married with a kid, he must be earning 2,540 Euro monthly before tax to sponsor 1 person (and must be earning 3,270 Euro to sponsor 2 people), if he is married with 2 kids, he must be earning 2,780 Euro monthly before tax to sponsor 1 person (and must be earning 3,510 Euro to sponsor 2 people). This is the breakdown of how Munich checks your sponsor to see his/her eligibility to sponsor you. So different cities got its own breakdown of how much your sponsor must be earning monthly to sponsor you. Normally, after all monthly tax, bills and have been deducted from his monthly salary, he must have 720 or 730 Euro left, that’s how they do it. You can see it equates to the amount of blocked account (BA) to be dispensed to you monthly if you are using BA.

Now, some cities issues this letter even without your sponsor not being capable or not earning that stipulated amount and that is where you start having issues with the foreigners office of the city you are heading to and definitely with the embassy. A city I know that gives sponsors the sl without the sponsor being capable is pforzheim, Germany. This city dishes out the letters anyhow and most of the letters I have seen that comes from pforzheim always ended up being rejected by the embassy. Part of the criteria generally in Germany in issuing this sl is that your sponsor must hold a Permanent Residence permit or Temporary residence permit or must be a German citizen or EU citizen to sponsor you (This is the only residence titles your sponsor must have to be issued the sl). Now there is what they call fiktionbeschenigung (fiction certificate), this is the permit they give people living in Germany that applied for a residence permit and the foreigners office has not yet decided on the residence permit whether to issue the applicant or not, so they give the person a fiktionbeschenigung, this person can work with it pending the time they decide on his/her RP. This person is not allowed to stand as a sponsor which is clearly stated by most cities in Germany but pforzheim can give people with a fiktionbeschenigung (that’s how bad pforzheim is), now imagine you are applying to another city with this sl signed by a person with a fiktionbeschenigung, that’s auto rejection.

Let me talk about Hannover city, now Hannover has one of the strictest foreigners’ office in Germany, and the place is always filled up. If your sl is coming from any city in Germany, whether from Munich, Hamburg, and so on, just know that Hannover will write your sponsor through postal mail to send some documents including his/her 3 month payslips to check the creditworthiness of the sl, Hannover will now make their own calculations to see if your sponsor is really capable (they always do this because they know some cities are not strict with the letter and due to fluctuating credit-rating of different cities), after making their own calculations and they see your sponsor does not meet up their criteria, then sorry is your case, even if your sponsor is a white German or White EU citizen, they will write him, and if your sponsor doesn’t get the letter Hannover sent him asking for his docs, that’s not their problem, and they wont write another one, so your sponsor must have a working mail box. You might want to ask how they will know your sponsor’s address, your sponsors address will be asked when filling the sl. So I advise you all, please if your letter is coming from another city and you are going to Hannover, don’t try it, you will be disappointed, the best is for your sl to come from Hannover if you are heading to hannover, you wont even have issues, that’s auto acceptance. Hannover is the only city I know that writes sponsors to send documents and this is how to verify sl issued from other cities.

Furthermore, there is a particular number of people a person can sponsor (I don’t the exact number) but let me give you a real life case that happened summer 2018 and winter 2018. There is this German-Nigerian man in Germany, he own a company so he is earning so much money to even sponsor 40 students, in summer 2018, he sponsored about 7 people and they made it to Germany. In winter 2018, he gave about 11 people sl again, and embassy rejected all of the 11 people. Why? Because there is a rule of how many people you can sponsor. Why did they give him in the office in Germany since he was already sponsoring 7 people? The answer is he went to another city to get the sl. Yes, your sponsor can leave his residence city and go to another city to get the sl.

If your sponsor is living in Berlin, Berlin has 2 offices where this sl is issued from, there is one for long term (student, family reunioun and so on) and there is office for short term (visiting, tourism and so on.)
Also, the embassy are not the ones that verifies sl, embassy send your sl to the city you are heading to in Germany and the city does the verification, now the embassy can still decide whether to give you the visa or not, meaning even if your foreigners office in Germany approves your visa, embassy can still reject you for different reasons. They might say “they doubt your indicated purpose of trip” they have their own convictions are you cant sue or fight them.

I hope I have stated all what prospective applicant that wants to use sl needs to know. And please and please, don’t pay anybody you don’t know personally for sl, I read part 4 of this thread where a guy was scammed 400k, a lot of scammers in town now cause they know people are desperate to leave Nigeria, and there are scammers in Germany too, if you get scammed, you get scammed for life, you cant hold anybody, and even if you got the sl and the embassy rejects you based on any reason, then the money you paid is gone.
This is my 2 cents. BE WISE and BE SHARP!!!! [/b]A lot of people are crying in one corner now for this.[b]
I read a post some pages back where one Guy was saying he has 2 million naira and he can’t raise the remaining 1.6 million for the blocked account. Dude if you are reading this, you better hustle for that complete money. I have a friend that had to stay back for a year in Nigeria to get the complete blocked account money and now he is in DE.

NB: sl can be handwritten (filled with pen) or typed-written. sl from Munich is always handwritten except for the official remark, date of entry, employer of your sponsor, and date of issuance of the sl, all these I mentioned are always typed. To get a sample of sl and how it looks like, type “Verpflichtungserklarung” on google, facebook or Instagram, you will see samples.
And please when you get your sl, before the sponsor sends the original by post mail, always request for the softcopy and check that your details (Full name, passport number, date of birth, purpose of stay in Germany) is correct.

TCHUSS!
[/quote]

Naf18:
Thanks boss. I'm still awaiting my AM after my interview on the 28th August and submitted updated block confirmation and university letter of confirmation of language of instruction on the 10th. I was thinking not sending by courier was the reason for the delay.

It's well. I also had my AD on the 28th. Submitted my confirmation via mail last week.

Please for those who are in Germany for a while now, I would like to ask what are the important things one needs to travel with. And also like to know the things one can get easily there instead of taking much loads when traveling to Germany.

Visum/Visa Alert

AD: 15th August

AM: 11th September

Submitted passport and Insurance on 16th September

Visa: 19th September

Goodluck folks...see y'all in Deutschland

Please if you intend to travel to Frankfurt on 27th September via MMIA, hola at me on toberson12@protonmail.com so we can plan together

Annestacia:


Thank you brother...Amen.
I pray for everyone of us yet to receive AM...AD...VISUM...MAY your prayers be answered according to your needs just like I have been favored.

You r most welcome and Amen...
Safe

Philfit:

Arge bobo

Man wey sabi.
Make we link up for that way n fulfil all promises made to the Caucasians...�

Sanny21:


I used a private uni it's d same questions asked here the only question different is how much is ur tution fee per semester nothing different is asked.

Pls wen u were asked y Germany, what did u say? Did u mention cos its tuition free? cos in private schools tuition is being paid.
Pls what did u say?

kruzzroboh:


Pls wen u were asked y Germany, what did u say? Did u mention cos its tuition free? cos in private schools tuition is being paid.
Pls what did u say?

I did not say because it's tution free I said due to it's international prestige and the blend of thoretical and practical training and the ability for me to learn a second language which is beneficial to me due to my course.

kruzzroboh:


Pls wen u were asked y Germany, what did u say? Did u mention cos its tuition free? cos in private schools tuition is being paid.
Pls what did u say?

What school if I may ask

Farakay10:


What did you write as your travel date

24th September

Please what can I do to know the status of my visa application. I did interview on August 21st, and two other people that we did interview on thesame date (for thesame school) have gotten AM since Monday (September 16th). Could it be that something went wrong with my application?
My resumption date is September 30th... I am confused right now.

JosephAdeoba:
. READ THIS NOTE:: THIS IS NOT MY POST BUT I GOT IT ON THIS THREAD AS WELL. /b]This

TCHUSS!

Starred

Pls I want to ask which school can I apply to in Germany I have third class pls I need answers thanks

Hello everyone and congratulations to all the people who got their AMs already.

Please, is anyone applying to University of Bielefeld, Master in Sociology for this summer? So that we can share cost and rub minds together. Also, I’d appreciate it if anyone can help with a course and school that I can apply to that is tuition free & English test exempted. I have written TOEFL twice, didn’t get a desired cut off, and I’ve had like four rejection mails from last year till date. Thank you.

"It's cheaper when compared to other developed countries like USA, UK, Canada and Australia."

kruzzroboh:


Pls wen u were asked y Germany, what did u say? Did u mention cos its tuition free? cos in private schools tuition is being paid.
Pls what did u say?

Hello everyone,

Please has any Berlin hopeful received AM lately. Especially those that interviewed between 19th August and 30 August?

My E-family, just want to share my good news. Sent my passport on Monday 16th September and GBAMMmmm VISUM on Thursday 19th. Thanks to everyone of you, God bless

calinto:
My E-family, just want to share my good news. Sent my passport on Monday 16th September and GBAMMmmm VISUM on Thursday 19th. Thanks to everyone of you, God bless

Congratulations

Abeg where can local man get winter clothing in Lagos

olatunji1187:
Please what can I do to know the status of my visa application. I did interview on August 21st, and two other people that we did interview on thesame date (for thesame school) have gotten AM since Monday (September 16th). Could it be that something went wrong with my application?
My resumption date is September 30th... I am confused right now.

have U funded if no then go fund or send mail to your alien office

LexRE:
Abeg where can local man get winter clothing in Lagos

yaba

Those that are heading to Stuttgart, how long does it take to get AM?

teb123:


24th September

Sorry is dat the day u will really travel? cos I need explanation on how it works. When the embassy ask you to submit ur passport and insurance.

johnaolaniran:
Hello everyone,

Please has any Berlin hopeful received AM lately. Especially those that interviewed between 19th August and 30 August?

We actually highlighted few days ago about how it takes long to get AM from Berlin. You just have to be hopeful.

JosephAdeoba:
. READ THIS NOTE:: THIS IS NOT MY POST BUT I GOT IT ON THIS THREAD AS WELL. /b]This important information is for all winter semester applicants and future ones that will be using Verpflichtungserklarung fur studium (Sponsorship Letter, sl), please read carefully all that is involved using sl and how the embassy operates with it.[b]

Firstly, I want to let you know that using a Verpflichtungserklarung fur studium does not guarantee the issuance of student visa (I don’t care where you will be getting it from whether issued by a family, an acquaintance, or you paid), you stand the same chance as every other applicant using Blocked account. If you are using sl, you can still be rejected on the basis that your sponsor is not capable. The rejection is always in this form from the embassy.

“Your secured subsistence cost is not ensured in Germany”
“There are doubts regarding your secured subsistence cost in Germany”

Now I know you want to ask me why the office in Germany gave your sponsor the letter if he wasn’t capable to sponsor you in the first place. I want you to know that different cities/town in Germany have their own criteria in giving out the sl. Let’s take a case like the Auslanderbehorde in Munich, if your sponsor is living in Munich which is the most expensive city in Germany, as of September 2018, your sponsor must be earning 1,880 Euro monthly before tax to sponsor 1 person if he is single (and must be earning 2,610 Euro to sponsor 2 people), if he has a kid living with him or married without kid, he must be earning 2,300 Euro monthly before tax to sponsor 1 person (and must be earning 3,040 Euro to sponsor 2 people), if he is married with a kid, he must be earning 2,540 Euro monthly before tax to sponsor 1 person (and must be earning 3,270 Euro to sponsor 2 people), if he is married with 2 kids, he must be earning 2,780 Euro monthly before tax to sponsor 1 person (and must be earning 3,510 Euro to sponsor 2 people). This is the breakdown of how Munich checks your sponsor to see his/her eligibility to sponsor you. So different cities got its own breakdown of how much your sponsor must be earning monthly to sponsor you. Normally, after all monthly tax, bills and have been deducted from his monthly salary, he must have 720 or 730 Euro left, that’s how they do it. You can see it equates to the amount of blocked account (BA) to be dispensed to you monthly if you are using BA.

Now, some cities issues this letter even without your sponsor not being capable or not earning that stipulated amount and that is where you start having issues with the foreigners office of the city you are heading to and definitely with the embassy. A city I know that gives sponsors the sl without the sponsor being capable is pforzheim, Germany. This city dishes out the letters anyhow and most of the letters I have seen that comes from pforzheim always ended up being rejected by the embassy. Part of the criteria generally in Germany in issuing this sl is that your sponsor must hold a Permanent Residence permit or Temporary residence permit or must be a German citizen or EU citizen to sponsor you (This is the only residence titles your sponsor must have to be issued the sl). Now there is what they call fiktionbeschenigung (fiction certificate), this is the permit they give people living in Germany that applied for a residence permit and the foreigners office has not yet decided on the residence permit whether to issue the applicant or not, so they give the person a fiktionbeschenigung, this person can work with it pending the time they decide on his/her RP. This person is not allowed to stand as a sponsor which is clearly stated by most cities in Germany but pforzheim can give people with a fiktionbeschenigung (that’s how bad pforzheim is), now imagine you are applying to another city with this sl signed by a person with a fiktionbeschenigung, that’s auto rejection.

Let me talk about Hannover city, now Hannover has one of the strictest foreigners’ office in Germany, and the place is always filled up. If your sl is coming from any city in Germany, whether from Munich, Hamburg, and so on, just know that Hannover will write your sponsor through postal mail to send some documents including his/her 3 month payslips to check the creditworthiness of the sl, Hannover will now make their own calculations to see if your sponsor is really capable (they always do this because they know some cities are not strict with the letter and due to fluctuating credit-rating of different cities), after making their own calculations and they see your sponsor does not meet up their criteria, then sorry is your case, even if your sponsor is a white German or White EU citizen, they will write him, and if your sponsor doesn’t get the letter Hannover sent him asking for his docs, that’s not their problem, and they wont write another one, so your sponsor must have a working mail box. You might want to ask how they will know your sponsor’s address, your sponsors address will be asked when filling the sl. So I advise you all, please if your letter is coming from another city and you are going to Hannover, don’t try it, you will be disappointed, the best is for your sl to come from Hannover if you are heading to hannover, you wont even have issues, that’s auto acceptance. Hannover is the only city I know that writes sponsors to send documents and this is how to verify sl issued from other cities.

Furthermore, there is a particular number of people a person can sponsor (I don’t the exact number) but let me give you a real life case that happened summer 2018 and winter 2018. There is this German-Nigerian man in Germany, he own a company so he is earning so much money to even sponsor 40 students, in summer 2018, he sponsored about 7 people and they made it to Germany. In winter 2018, he gave about 11 people sl again, and embassy rejected all of the 11 people. Why? Because there is a rule of how many people you can sponsor. Why did they give him in the office in Germany since he was already sponsoring 7 people? The answer is he went to another city to get the sl. Yes, your sponsor can leave his residence city and go to another city to get the sl.

If your sponsor is living in Berlin, Berlin has 2 offices where this sl is issued from, there is one for long term (student, family reunioun and so on) and there is office for short term (visiting, tourism and so on.)
Also, the embassy are not the ones that verifies sl, embassy send your sl to the city you are heading to in Germany and the city does the verification, now the embassy can still decide whether to give you the visa or not, meaning even if your foreigners office in Germany approves your visa, embassy can still reject you for different reasons. They might say “they doubt your indicated purpose of trip” they have their own convictions are you cant sue or fight them.

I hope I have stated all what prospective applicant that wants to use sl needs to know. And please and please, don’t pay anybody you don’t know personally for sl, I read part 4 of this thread where a guy was scammed 400k, a lot of scammers in town now cause they know people are desperate to leave Nigeria, and there are scammers in Germany too, if you get scammed, you get scammed for life, you cant hold anybody, and even if you got the sl and the embassy rejects you based on any reason, then the money you paid is gone.
This is my 2 cents. BE WISE and BE SHARP!!!! [/b]A lot of people are crying in one corner now for this.[b]
I read a post some pages back where one Guy was saying he has 2 million naira and he can’t raise the remaining 1.6 million for the blocked account. Dude if you are reading this, you better hustle for that complete money. I have a friend that had to stay back for a year in Nigeria to get the complete blocked account money and now he is in DE.

NB: sl can be handwritten (filled with pen) or typed-written. sl from Munich is always handwritten except for the official remark, date of entry, employer of your sponsor, and date of issuance of the sl, all these I mentioned are always typed. To get a sample of sl and how it looks like, type “Verpflichtungserklarung” on google, facebook or Instagram, you will see samples.
And please when you get your sl, before the sponsor sends the original by post mail, always request for the softcopy and check that your details (Full name, passport number, date of birth, purpose of stay in Germany) is correct.

TCHUSS!

Thanks a million for this comprehensive piece, It has resolved all my concerns

Omalily1:
Good afternoon my people, I greet you all, trust we are doing great today.
Please is there any what's app forum for University of Dusseldorf students currently. Please I did like to join. Please anyone who knows should kindly notify me so I can reach out via pm or the person should kindly send me a pm. Thank you in advance. God bless us all.(Amen).

Which course are you applying for?

Philfit:

Congratulations.
That’s quite odd, cause I was there today(Blue native), first person to be interviewed, and the woman on dreads wasn’t on seat. Met a guy who says he’s new to SL but he’s been following , welcome to the thread ‘Udochi’ , and I’m pretty sure when is as done someone was being interviewed by a man who spoke with a Yoruba intonation.
Anyways wish you the best.

yea I noticed that few people have been interviewed before me.
But I didn't meet you guys at the reception area.
you were the person being interviewed when I entered the waiting room.

It's the same VO ..I just define her hairstyle as dread because it's locks.

A.M fall on us bro.

olatunji1187:
Please what can I do to know the status of my visa application. I did interview on August 21st, and two other people that we did interview on thesame date (for thesame school) have gotten AM since Monday (September 16th). Could it be that something went wrong with my application?
My resumption date is September 30th... I am confused right now.

please mail your alien and hear their response and including the embassy since your your deadline for enrollment is on 30th. Incase you don’t get response pls Email your school for extension.