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| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 3:58pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
Timeline in Ukraine Probe Casts Doubt on Giuliani’s Biden Claim https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-07/timeline-in-ukraine-probe-casts-doubt-on-giuliani-s-biden-claim President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer is raising the specter that Joe Biden intervened in Ukrainian politics to help his son’s business. But if that was Biden’s aim, he was more than a year late, based on a timeline laid out by a former Ukrainian official and in Ukrainian documents. The official described to Bloomberg details about the country’s political dynamic in the run-up to early 2016 when Biden, then the U.S. vice president, threatened to hold up U.S. funding to Ukraine unless it cracked down on corruption. Biden’s chief demand was the ouster of a top Ukrainian prosecutor who he said had been ineffective. The episode has come under the spotlight in the last week because at one point, that prosecutor had been investigating a natural gas company where Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, sat on the board and received substantial compensation. “There was no pressure from anyone from the U.S. to close cases against Zlochevsky,” Kasko said in an interview last week. “It was shelved by Ukrainian prosecutors in 2014 and through 2015. Rudy Giuliani Plans Ukraine Trip to Push for Inquiries That Could Help Trump for 2020 elections https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/09/us/politics/giuliani-ukraine-trump.html WASHINGTON — Rudolph W. Giuliani, President Trump’s personal lawyer, is encouraging Ukraine to wade further into sensitive political issues in the United States, seeking to push the incoming government in Kiev to press ahead with investigations that he hopes will benefit Mr. Trump. Mr. Giuliani said he plans to travel to Kiev, the Ukrainian capital, in the coming days and wants to meet with the nation’s president-elect to urge him to pursue inquiries that allies of the White House contend could yield new information about two matters of intense interest to Mr. Trump. One is the origin of the special counsel’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. The other is the involvement of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s son in a gas company owned by a Ukrainian oligarch. Mr. Giuliani’s plans create the remarkable scene of a lawyer for the president of the United States pressing a foreign government to pursue investigations that Mr. Trump’s allies hope could help him in his re-election campaign. And it comes after Mr. Trump spent more than half of his term facing questions about whether his 2016 campaign conspired with a foreign power. “We’re not meddling in an election, we’re meddling in an investigation, which we have a right to do,” Mr. Giuliani said in an interview on Thursday when asked about the parallel to the special counsel’s inquiry. “There’s nothing illegal about it,” he said. “Somebody could say it’s improper. And this isn’t foreign policy — I’m asking them to do an investigation that they’re doing already and that other people are telling them to stop. And I’m going to give them reasons why they shouldn’t stop it because that information will be very, very helpful to my client, and may turn out to be helpful to my government.” |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 4:32pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
TheShopKeeper:Trump and Guliani should keep quiet because? You guys are laughable, so Trump asking a foreign government to investigate allegations of corruption by Joe biden and his son in ukraine is now a crime? While Joe Biden himself who is on video literally admitting to committing the crime should not be worried? I really hope this matter doesn't die down, I hope it's investigated to the fullest. I bet you though, you guys and biden won't like the things that will come out. By the way, why were you spreading fake news here yesterday that the alleged call was to Vladimir Putin? 5 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 4:36pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
kophschmerzenii:You seem to be totally oblivious to the fact that Joe Biden is the one alleged to have committed a crime in the so called Ukrainiangate. He is even on camera basically admitting to using his powers as US VP to ensure the firing of a prosecutor who was investigating the criminal actions of his son's company. This is not going to end well for you dems 6 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 4:44pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
coluka: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-07/timeline-in-ukraine-probe-casts-doubt-on-giuliani-s-biden-claim Timeline in Ukraine Probe Casts Doubt on Giuliani’s Biden Claim President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer is raising the specter that Joe Biden intervened in Ukrainian politics to help his son’s business. But if that was Biden’s aim, he was more than a year late, based on a timeline laid out by a former Ukrainian official and in Ukrainian documents. The official described to Bloomberg details about the country’s political dynamic in the run-up to early 2016 when Biden, then the U.S. vice president, threatened to hold up U.S. funding to Ukraine unless it cracked down on corruption. Biden’s chief demand was the ouster of a top Ukrainian prosecutor who he said had been ineffective. The episode has come under the spotlight in the last week because at one point, that prosecutor had been investigating a natural gas company where Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, sat on the board and received substantial compensation. “There was no pressure from anyone from the U.S. to close cases against Zlochevsky,” Kasko said in an interview last week. “It was shelved by Ukrainian prosecutors in 2014 and through 2015. ...the case was closed by the ukraine authorities even before the 2016 election...why will trump and giulliani want the new ukraine government to reopen the case... ...yes by all means if joe biden is found to have used his executive powers as VP under Obama to close the case, then he should be prosecuted... ...i will leave this link about trump... Trump says he might not report foreign help to FBI in 2020 https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/12/trump-fbi-foreign-information-1362788 President Donald Trump says he might not report to the FBI any election help offered by a foreign source in the 2020 election cycle. In an excerpt from an interview with ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos published on Wednesday, the president pushed back when asked whether a candidate should report information on an opponent if it came from a foreign agent, and denied that accepting the information counted as election interference. |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 4:47pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
coluka: ...yes trump is known to have shared vital information with russian representatives even in the white house...still, he is yet to submit the transcript of his meetings with putin in finland...what is trump hiding... |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 4:49pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
TheShopKeeper:Trump is known to have shared vital info with Russians  Can we have your evidence of that ever happening?4 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 4:55pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
coluka: ...for the records...i'm not advocating for joe biden's presidential ambitions or any of the other democracts...as i have stated before in my posts...none of democract candidates is principled enough for the office of the president... neither trump as well... ...video about joe biden discussing about ukrainegate...it's quite long...but useful for students of politics and international relations... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0_AqpdwqK4 |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kophschmerzenii: 4:58pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
coluka: Crap!!! I don't even like the two shitards. But using military aid to pressure an opposition research is textbook fascism. Plus old gully was spewing pure crap on TV yesterday and a Trump appointee move forward with the whistle blower concern cos it's an actual threat. Why have Trump and his personal attorney (Barr) been running a cover up and obstructing this one too. |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Abbeybailey(m): 5:10pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
coluka:I am several thousands miles away from Nigeria and i can't see you but I am damn sure your lips are all Orange now from kissing the fat slob a$$. How come you lovers of the Racist Pig can't absolve the truth about the worthless bigot. |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Abbeybailey(m): 5:14pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
TheShopKeeper:Taliban Trump met with Russian Foreign Minister and Rusdian Ambassador to US in the Oval Office without any American reporters but the Russian reporters were in the Oval Office with them . A traitor and a national disgrace. Waiting patiently for Nov 3rd of 2020 to take our pound of flesh from Taliban Trump. |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 5:20pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
kophschmerzenii: ...article II in the US constitution doesn't grant the president a constitutional right to privacy...every conversation is recorded and documented in the presidential record files for future reference.. and also when you represent other people you don't have one within the scope of the task...e.g...a public office holder... ...as you rightly mentioned...the attorney general is not representing the US, but donald j. trump as his personal attorney...i don't see this ending well for (barr)... ...this latest issue is very serious...because trump is asking a foreign power to help him win an election... Rudy Giuliani Plans Ukraine Trip to Push for Inquiries That Could Help Trump for 2020 elections https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/09/us/politics/giuliani-ukraine-trump.html |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 5:24pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
Abbeybailey:If you can't see any big deal about Joe biden being alleged to have used his position as VP to get Ukraine to fire a prosecutor investigating his son's company for corrupt dealings then you are indeed blind!!! That man you call a worthless bigot is a million times more valuable and honourable than you 6 Likes 3 Shares |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 5:28pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
kophschmerzenii: There's no evidence that what you described above happened, its just speculation from the media. Even the media that are reporting it are saying "if true", none of them is claiming to have seen the document or to even know what is in it for a fact. 5 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 5:31pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
Abbeybailey:Is there any evidence he shared any vital info with the Russians in that meeting? If I were him, I would have also kicked our the US media because they are fake news and would have been all over the place the next day twisting and lying about the things that happened. 5 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 5:34pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
TheShopKeeper:. Fake News!! Trump has not asked any foreign power to help him win an election. Provide evidence of that or shove your fake news in the trash bin where it belongs 5 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 5:36pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
coluka: https://video.foxnews.com/v/6088084374001/#sp=show-clips ...speculation from the media?...yet in the clip...taliban trump delivered the most disjointed, rambling, repetitive, addle-brained joint press conference..the man is so embarrassing on the world stage...the buffoon-in-chief keeps reminding americans and the world at large why he has no business in the oval office... ...he lies routinely, never admits he's wrong, is profiting off the presidency, believes the rules and law don't apply to him...even his supporters who thrill to his obstruction of justice must wonder from time to time why he is hiding his taxes and other details from public view... 1 Like |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 5:42pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
coluka: ...you can forward that request to the white house (trump) and department of justice (under barr) to allow the inspector general at the directorate of national intelligence to release the details of what the whistleblower said in the report...why are they stonewalling the information...
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| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 5:54pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
TheShopKeeper:Classified info are not meant for public consumption, that's why they are classified. The Acting DNI will be in congress next week to brief them on the contents of the whistleblower's letter so no one is stone walling anything 5 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 6:03pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
TheShopKeeper:You also just provided the most disjointed, rambling, repetitive, response to my post. I said the reports that the phone call had to do with Trump tying military aid to Ukraine for opposition info is just speculation that are not based on facts, even the media themselves admit that so I don't understand what this your rambling response is meant to prove 4 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kophschmerzenii: 6:09pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
coluka: Cry on son!! Ain't ya losers also deny the stormy daniels thingy? Y'all are a class of clown. The meltdown and crap coming from gully and vanillaISIS is an indication that, they are in a lot of mess. |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Abbeybailey(m): 6:12pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
coluka:Those American journalists pay his salary and the they maintain that Public housing he lives in. This is America not some 3rd world country you are used to. |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Abbeybailey(m): 6:15pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
coluka:Hush your mouth. He's a worthless piece of human trash and we will get our pound of flesh on Nov 3rd of 2020. Meanwhile, keep your idiocy on since you don't count. I wish you are this addicted to your failed country and her worthless and inept Thieflicians. |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 6:18pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
kophschmerzenii:Indications upon indications, that's all you ever come up with, never facts. I will be here to remind you all when this latest round of liberal TDS has ended that as usual, it just the liberals and the media manifesting symptoms of TDS as usual. Like I told theshopkeeper earlier, you guys should make sure you get him this time, I'm sick and tired of your miserable failures to get Trump after every round of TDS induced craziness 5 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 6:21pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
Abbeybailey:Hush your mouth. He's still a million times better than you. Get ready for more tears and wailings in November 2020. Your Lamentations are just beginning 5 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kophschmerzenii: 6:22pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
coluka: The DOJ and Barr are actively covering up for Trump, put stone walling into that mix and the dumbass Pelosi always bringing a knife to a gun fight. If a Dem try half of the shiiit Trump is doing, we would have cross the impeachment line like six full moons ago. |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 6:25pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
Abbeybailey:Trump is not taking any salary as president and he is richer than all those quack journalists combined so he doesn't need their chicken feed money for anything and he is right to kick them out of crucial meetings, who wants idiotic dumbos to be in the room when crucial issues are being discussed? 6 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Abbeybailey(m): 8:05pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
coluka:You are so dumb it is unbelievable. Hes enriching himself with Emoluments clause but a clown from africa dont know. If he's as rich as he claimed, how come he doesn't release his taxes ?. In America, your taxes reveals how vibrant and rich you are but you wouldn't know that. His biggest project is right across from my office building on Wabash by the Chicago River and it's fully mortgaged to the hilt with 60% occupancy. What do a peasant like you know about wealth in America?. Wait for your South Africa visa and stop spitting out garbage. Those journalists are tax paying Americans and they are part of the people who funds the maintenance of the White House, Camp David, the utilities and the Food that he and his family consume. That's what I meant but I don't expect a 3rd loud mouth to know that. |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 8:36pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
Abbeybailey:
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| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Abbeybailey(m): 8:58pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
[quote author=budaatum post=82415819][/quote]That's democracy American style at work. How come the Republicon Party don't want any primary challenge against Taliban Trump?. All these is part of Democracy and nothing surprising about that. Funny enough, I don't even have a favorite yet in our primary because my State of Illinois primary comes up in March. |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by zendi: 9:32pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
Abbeybailey:You must be very proud of your illegal status in America to be so foul-mouthed. But please be on notice, Trump's ICE has my permission, sooner or later........  4 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Abbeybailey(m): 10:06pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
zendi:You wish. I hope Buhari deport your behind to somewhere worse than Nigeria so that you can be in the hottest part of 'hell'. |
| Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by zendi: 10:21pm On Sep 20, 2019 |
Abbeybailey:Nigeria has no Chain migrants, Diversity lottery migrants, Baby anchored migrants, Caravan migrants. Rapefugee migrants, Catch and release migrants, "Climate refugee" migrants. Trump is only trying to re-impose order on the chaos that's the left championed US immigration. 3 Likes |
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