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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 4:08pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
coluka:They are guilty of everything they accuse you of doing... Just like the Justin and the blackface scandal 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 4:09pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
Abbeybailey: I never said you said anything bad about Baron. I said you were silent 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 4:12pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
The full transcript. Trump did nothing wrong at all. The White House on Wednesday released a transcript of President Trump’s phone call with his Ukrainian counterpart, where the two discuss corruption in the country and how Joe Biden “stopped” an investigation into his son, Hunter. In the conversation, Trump mentions that a Ukrainian prosecutor “who was very good and he was shut down and that’s really unfair.” He then suggested that President Volodymyr Zelensky get in contact with Rudy Giuliani, his personal lawyer, and Attorney General William Barr. “The other thing,” Trump said, according to the transcript. “There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son. That Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. “Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you ·can look into it … It sounds horrible to me,” he said. Zelensky assured Trump that he will look into the situation. “The next prosecutor general will be 100% my person, my candidate who will be approved by the Parliament,” he told Trump. “He or she will look into the situation. … The issue of the investigation of the case is actually the issue of making sure to restore the honesty so we will take care of that and will work on the investigation of the case,” Zelensky said. The transcript says it is a “memorandum of a telephone conversation” produced by White House Situation Room notetakers. “TELCON is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion,” it said. Biden, as vice president, told Ukraine in 2016 that the US was considering canceling $1 billion in loan guarantees unless it got rid of top prosecutor Viktor Shokin, who had been accused of slow-walking a number of corruption probes. But Shokin, who was voted out of office by Ukraine’s parliament, was looking into Burisma Holding, an energy company that gave Hunter a seat on its board. Burisma paid Hunter as much as $50,000 a month. Shokin’s replacement Yuri Lutsenko, continued the investigation into Burisma and concluded there was no evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden or his son. News reports, based on an intelligence community whistleblower’s account of the phone call, said Trump stalled nearly $400 million in military aid to Ukraine to pressure Zelensky to open the probe into the Bidens. Trump has admitted talking to Zelensky about the Bidens, but said he held up the aid because he believed that European countries were not paying their fare share of Ukraine’s defense, denying there was a quid pro quo. The aid package, approved by Congress, was released to Ukraine on Sept. 12. Trump, hours before House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s announcement of an impeachment inquiry, wrote in a tweet that he “authorized the release tomorrow of the complete, fully declassified and unredacted transcript of my phone conversation with President Zelensky of Ukraine.” The president said “you will see it was a very friendly and totally appropriate call.” The White House said it will also release the whistleblower’s complaint this week. An unidentified member of the intelligence community filed the complaint on Aug. 12 with Michael Atkinson, the inspector general of the intelligence community, flagging a “promise” Trump made to a foreign leader. Atkinson, labeling the complaint of “urgent concern,” turned it over to acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire. But after consulting with the Department of Justice, Maguire refused to turn over the report to Congress. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 4:18pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
Obixcel: Tulsi Gabbard has some donuts for ya 6 Likes
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 4:18pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
The only thing that was revealed in this is the the Ukrainian President thinks Joe and Hunter Biden's corruption is a real problem. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 4:21pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
To all the Leftist. Asking for investigation into Biden wasn't a crime. The real crime will be promising something in return for that investigation. Good luck looking for that 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 4:25pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
stanech: ...indeed according to you...trump did not wrong... some exerts from the transcript... ...trump also asked zelenksy "to do us a favor" and look into an unsubstantiated theory that ukraine played some role in a cache of emails being stolen from the democratic national committee leading up to the 2016 election....trump is still seriously concerned about the stolen emails... ...asking a foreign govenment to open prosecution on joe biden and his son hunter biden...but only to discuss with the attorney general and rudy guilliani...why only these two people...and not representatives of the department of justice or the congress...which could potentially affect the 2020 elections... ...part one of a phone conversation has been released...seven more to go...as it was reported there are eight seperate phone calls between trump and zelenskiy... 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 4:27pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
The call summary doesn’t look good for Trump. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 4:33pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
TheShopKeeper: Lol. Asking something in return for that investigation is the real crime 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 4:35pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
...senator lindsey graham (senator under the republican party) said this back in 1999..."you don't even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this republic (u.s.) if the body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role; impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office". ....(this was when he was in the house of representatives, before becoming a senator)... 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 4:37pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
PDPGuy: Really? How so? 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 4:53pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
stanech: ...why is trump interested in biden's son legal issues in ukraine...also why is he is concerned about the stolen emails from the dnc server from 2016...if not to gain political advantage...he has been caught using a foreign power to do his dirty political works...trump can lie and twist it all he wants, but this has never been done before...unfortunately... this is a breach of the oath of his office...as the president of the united states of america... using the office for personal benefits... 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Abbeybailey(m): 4:53pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
stanech:Millionaire Coluka, you expect me to be answering to every knuckle heads saying something stupid. We have a guy here that we got into heated debates about 4 or 5 years ago and he was telling himself that all his children will die before him. The same guy is still parabulating all over America without amounting to much while my children are doing great. When it comes to children or teenagers, maximum respect and courtesy should be applied and that's why I don't say any negative things over other people's children. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 4:57pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
...may I say this...joe biden's hands are not clean either...biden should withdraw from seeking the democratic presidential nomination...too much toxic politically at the moment...(trump and biden)...old white menwho have nothing else to offer...other than creating unnecessary drama in the political scene... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 5:04pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
TheShopKeeper: In one way or the other nobody is clean..The least clean people are even politicians..Asking Biden to withdraw because of an accusation that hasnt been found to be true would be most unfortunate..If Biden withdraws,what about Elizabeth warren and her so-called American Indian Heritage?The Loser here is no other person than Taliban Trump! |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Abbeybailey(m): 5:12pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
happney65:I agree with you. I don't even know the Democrat I am going to support yet but one thing I believe sincerely is that any of the Democrats running will be a better deal than the piece of human Basura we have now . 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 5:16pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
TheShopKeeper:Maybe because a vice President of the US shouldn't be abusing his office by using that influential position to shut down an investigation into his son's company? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 5:20pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
coluka: Where is the evidence please? 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 5:20pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
Abbeybailey: Exactly! 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 5:21pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
...i'm still not convinced that this is the full transcript of the telephone conversation...just five pages of almost 30mins of phone call between 09.03 - 09.33...i think some information have been removed...but we wait for the release of the whistleblower report... ...by the way attorney general william barr's career is about to go the way of others who have associated with talibantrump...trump mentioned his name in the transacript...earlier in the summer at a hearing in congress...barr was asked the question about investigating anyone on behalf of the president...his response was.... 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Abbeybailey(m): 5:24pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
coluka:Show The evidence please that Biden uses his influence on Ukraine. Even the Ukrainian govt came out and dispute that meanwhile Trump is releasing a transcript that some people believe is doctored. He should release the audio version of the call . 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 5:25pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
stanech: ...trump asking for a favor...
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by 7Alexandre: 5:47pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
PDPGuy: Tulsi Gabbard is very pretty. She'd make a very good milf. 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Anduku: 5:53pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
Abbeybailey:Hey, stop calling the hallowed Nigerian army uniform okrika, if you were in Nigeria, I could give you 12 lashes for this blasphemy 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by 7Alexandre: 6:00pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
Abbeybailey: I think most people underestimate the power of incumbency... I see people saying the 2020 General election is going to be a Landslide either for the Democratic Nominee OR President Donald J Trump. That's just totally false. The 2020 Election is going down the wire. There isn't gonna be a blowout. You may deny all you want but a part of me tells me that if Elizabeth Warren is the nominee President Donald J Trump will be reelected. There are a lot of voters that aren't ready to vote a Female President yet. Despite the flaws of Hillary Clinton she seem like a better candidate to me than Elizabeth Warren. She hasn't even been hit very hard. At this point the Media is providing a cover for her & not asking a lot of tough questions. Both former Vice President Joe Biden & President Donald J Trump have been hit very hard & they're both still standing. Will Elizabeth Warren survive another Knockout Blow? I'm totally not convinced at this point. Who will deliver it? Tulsi Gabbard OR Amy Klobachar 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by 7Alexandre: 6:04pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
happney65: Exactly, I see people saying Former Vice President Joe Biden is too old. If Former Vice President Joe Biden should withdraw from the race for being too old then so should Senator Biden Sanders & Senator Elizabeth Warren All three Front runners are in their 70's. And for the record Senator Bernie Sanders is older than Former Vice President Joe Biden 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Abbeybailey(m): 6:05pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
Anduku:I love Nigerian army and the other Forces. It's just your leaders I don't understand. Why do you guys let them treat you like disposable garbage. To me for massive civil revolution. Lol. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Abbeybailey(m): 6:09pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
7Alexandre:I still believe that Trump is a damaged good and the insiders within the Republican party knows that. There's a reason about 17 republicans are not running for reelection in the Congress. We shall see anyway because there's no way Americans will let him get away with his bigotry and divisiveness. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 6:12pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
7Alexandre: Exactly,You hit it on the head 100% |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by 7Alexandre: 6:15pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
TheShopKeeper: You people just wanna hand President Donald J Trump the election. But of course Social Media isn't the real world. I see a lot of Trump Supporters who're Black. And they don't really tell you that they're supporting Trump because of the perceived backlash. These are the kind of people that will be thumb printing for him at the Ballot Box & might help push him over the edge. When you ask them why they're supporting President Trump then they will inform you: That the Democratic Party wants to take away their guns That the Democratic Party wants to take away their Health Insurance That the Democratic Party supports Decriminalization of border crossing & open borders Then most of my friends refers to Senator Bernie Sanders as a Socialist & Senator Elizabeth Warren as the Fake Indian. Actually Former Vice President Joe Biden is the only one considered sane among the front runners. And like most of my friends the best way to beat an Old White Man is to nominate another Old White Man. We've already tried a Woman & it didn't work out. Why would you put out another woman this time around? 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by armyofone(m): 6:20pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
You don't call another president to get involve in your country election process by asking them to investigate your potential opponent. If you want us to help you, help me dig out info. The funny thing is his own are making foreign deals now. PDPGuy: 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by 7Alexandre: 6:23pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
Abbeybailey: Trump is damaged goods to Democrats. He isn't damaged goods to Republicans & independents. Someone with an 80% approval ratings among republicans cannot be regarded as a damaged goods Democrats aren't gonna vote for him anyway so that doesn't matter. He only has to convince Independents that he's a better candidate than their Democratic Counterparts who only wants to confiscate their guns, take their Health Insurance Away & Support open borders. I watched President Donald J Trump rally in Minnesota on T.V. & a lot of the things he said reasonated very well if you're an independent. I may not like him personally but President Donald J Trump knows how to put on a spectacular show. The only other person that can do that effectively is President Barack Obama. He knew what to say & how to say it effectively inorder to convince undeciders. Former Vice President Joe Biden, Senator Elizabeth Warren & Senator Bernie Sanders don't even come close. 4 Likes |
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