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Hadampson:
Lazy youth spotted

Who Is This One? And You Not Lazy When You waste Time On Nairaland

So OP made several points about bad behavior of some Nigerians in foreign countries. Ironically, less than 6 posts later, representative Nigerians have started demonstrating those same traits... Unfortunately the message is being lost.

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goshen26:
Obeying simple instruction is not in our gene; A pedestrian bridge at Ojota, Lagos was divided in such a way that those coming down the bridge have a rail that divided them from those going up. In most cases when their side is busy you see guys/ladies using the other side.

We are not use to obeying laws

And this is why Nigeria is underdeveloped

Uyi168:
..
Do u need gods mercy to have sense and be well behaved

I wonder oh


Everything in Nigeria is all about prayer

MiztaYouneek:
Let me first of all say that I am not trying to be tribalistic here or referring to all Nigerians in diaspora as the same. I know there are many good and humble fellows out there who know why they left Nigeria and are making positive impacts.

I lived in a country years back which was dominated by the yorubas and if you see how some of them behave you will really ponder how they keep succeeding in living in that country. No respect for their host citizens, always feeling they own the country especially some that have made money. I was in a Nigerian restaurant one day and one man who was older than me came and started speaking Yoruba for me just like that. Out of respect I told him I don't understand the language and then he asked me if I wasn't a Nigerian. I told him I was a Nigerian but obviously Nigeria is not an all Yoruba country. The had the guts to open that stinking mouth of his that I know is already caused to tell me that I should question God to ask why I wasn't born a Yoruba. I know for sure they must have deported him by now or he might be in prison or something because I don't see such kind of a person making any positive impact in his life.

That aside I also had other terrible experiences with these yoruba people but I can't share all here. The main point is that not all of them had bad characters but the majority of them that did have bad characters sometimes affect all Nigerians in general even those with good characters.

Years later I have moved to a very different country which is more of a French speaking country and it is dominated more by the igbos. Over here is worse than the other country dominated by yorubas. Many of these igbo guys have no atom of respect at all for their host citizens. They feel they are making money and always trying to oppress their host citizens. Sometimes if you see how they talk and insult the citizens in English without any consideration that some of these citizens understand English a little. What surprises me most times is when some of these people will be insulting the host citizens saying things like if it was in Nigeria they can't do such and how Nigeria is better than the country, but they left the same Nigeria they say is better to another country not like if the host country invited them. It is really sad because I believe only some few people who have really travelled will understand the little points am trying to make.

Just last night, I was with an igbo guy who runs a legit business and we were on our way home because we stay in same neighborhood. On the way we noticed a lot of police presence but we just kept moving. Immediately we got close to a junction we saw two police officers who stopped us and they were speaking French so I didn't understand what they said. The guy I was walking with understands and speak french very well so he was communicating with them. The only thing I noticed was that they were pointing somewhere for us to sit down just like on the ground. I peacefully went to sit down and this other guy refused to sit and kept talking to one of the police. I didn't know what was going on as there were other people around as well but all speaking French so I signaled the other police that was close to me and told him I don't understand French but I needed to know what the problem is. Luckily for me he could understand English and he asked me for my identification. I reached out to my wallet and showed him then he asked if I was a Nigerian and I said yes. He then told me I can go because all they wanted to see was my identification so he called the other police and told him I don't understand French but I had shown him my identification and they both asked me to go. That was when I realized that all those plenty talk my friend was talking was unnecessary because they only needed to see our identification. I then called him aside and told him to calm down and speak with them gently but to my surprise he brought out his phone and said he wants to call some of his other police friends. I believe that angered one of the police and the next thing I saw was that they started pushing him to go and sit down where they initially asked us to sit. He kept on resisting while speaking French with them and the next thing I saw was two truck load policemen. Seems they were all together doing the patrol around the area and the whole story changed immediately. The environment became intense and that's how they pushed this guy into the truck with other people that they had arrested as well.

As for me, when I saw the way everything got intense I had no choice but to leave the place and started running home. Like that old saying "na who run from war dey live to tell the story". And that is what I am doing. Up till now he has not been released and no one knows yet where he is.

The bottom line of this all is that, though I know he will be released, it was just a very simple matter that would have been avoided by just being humble and able to show some respect that would have solved the problem and prevented any form of arrest in that forceful manner.

I don't see what it takes for us as Nigerians, no matter the money we are making, to always be humble to our host and respect them irrespective of age or anything. We have to learn to stop that attitude of I am better than my host and Nigerians have more sense than they do.

Whenever you travel out to wherever, please learn to show more respect and always be humble no matter how rich you think you have become.

My brother 3 gbosa for u Jare. No mind them. They think it is Nigeria where u shout, "do u know who I m?" we should learn to inconspicuous in any country or place. If u ve to be conspicuous for ur business, learn to separate business n ur normal life.

MiztaYouneek:
Let me first of all say that I am not trying to be tribalistic here or referring to all Nigerians in diaspora as the same. I know there are many good and humble fellows out there who know why they left Nigeria and are making positive impacts.

I lived in a country years back which was dominated by the yorubas and if you see how some of them behave you will really ponder how they keep succeeding in living in that country. No respect for their host citizens, always feeling they own the country especially some that have made money. I was in a Nigerian restaurant one day and one man who was older than me came and started speaking Yoruba for me just like that. Out of respect I told him I don't understand the language and then he asked me if I wasn't a Nigerian. I told him I was a Nigerian but obviously Nigeria is not an all Yoruba country. The had the guts to open that stinking mouth of his that I know is already caused to tell me that I should question God to ask why I wasn't born a Yoruba. I know for sure they must have deported him by now or he might be in prison or something because I don't see such kind of a person making any positive impact in his life.

That aside I also had other terrible experiences with these yoruba people but I can't share all here. The main point is that not all of them had bad characters but the majority of them that did have bad characters sometimes affect all Nigerians in general even those with good characters.

Years later I have moved to a very different country which is more of a French speaking country and it is dominated more by the igbos. Over here is worse than the other country dominated by yorubas. Many of these igbo guys have no atom of respect at all for their host citizens. They feel they are making money and always trying to oppress their host citizens. Sometimes if you see how they talk and insult the citizens in English without any consideration that some of these citizens understand English a little. What surprises me most times is when some of these people will be insulting the host citizens saying things like if it was in Nigeria they can't do such and how Nigeria is better than the country, but they left the same Nigeria they say is better to another country not like if the host country invited them. It is really sad because I believe only some few people who have really travelled will understand the little points am trying to make.

Just last night, I was with an igbo guy who runs a legit business and we were on our way home because we stay in same neighborhood. On the way we noticed a lot of police presence but we just kept moving. Immediately we got close to a junction we saw two police officers who stopped us and they were speaking French so I didn't understand what they said. The guy I was walking with understands and speak french very well so he was communicating with them. The only thing I noticed was that they were pointing somewhere for us to sit down just like on the ground. I peacefully went to sit down and this other guy refused to sit and kept talking to one of the police. I didn't know what was going on as there were other people around as well but all speaking French so I signaled the other police that was close to me and told him I don't understand French but I needed to know what the problem is. Luckily for me he could understand English and he asked me for my identification. I reached out to my wallet and showed him then he asked if I was a Nigerian and I said yes. He then told me I can go because all they wanted to see was my identification so he called the other police and told him I don't understand French but I had shown him my identification and they both asked me to go. That was when I realized that all those plenty talk my friend was talking was unnecessary because they only needed to see our identification. I then called him aside and told him to calm down and speak with them gently but to my surprise he brought out his phone and said he wants to call some of his other police friends. I believe that angered one of the police and the next thing I saw was that they started pushing him to go and sit down where they initially asked us to sit. He kept on resisting while speaking French with them and the next thing I saw was two truck load policemen. Seems they were all together doing the patrol around the area and the whole story changed immediately. The environment became intense and that's how they pushed this guy into the truck with other people that they had arrested as well.

As for me, when I saw the way everything got intense I had no choice but to leave the place and started running home. Like that old saying "na who run from war dey live to tell the story". And that is what I am doing. Up till now he has not been released and no one knows yet where he is.

The bottom line of this all is that, though I know he will be released, it was just a very simple matter that would have been avoided by just being humble and able to show some respect that would have solved the problem and prevented any form of arrest in that forceful manner.

I don't see what it takes for us as Nigerians, no matter the money we are making, to always be humble to our host and respect them irrespective of age or anything. We have to learn to stop that attitude of I am better than my host and Nigerians have more sense than they do.

Whenever you travel out to wherever, please learn to show more respect and always be humble no matter how rich you think you have become.

Honestly this is a Nigerian problem, I don't know how Nigerians became this bad, it hurts.

Tribalism and religious division in Nigeria contributed to this mess because everybody wants to show he has somebody at the top at every small opportunity.

Every Nigerian want to intimidate the other using his or her connection or whatever, its really sad

O di egwu

Yankee101:
If you live abroad avoid mixing too much with them. Go once in a while to meetings to eat your pounded yam and leave.

Don't let anyone use your address if you don't really know them that well. No collect any item fly or travel with to deliver to anyone even foodstuff. Except you're buying it yourself

Mixing with Oyinbo will help move you up faster. If anyone commits fraud in same location dem go pack all of una go first b4 u start to sort yaself. It takes strenght of character to seperate one from his primary environment....so they can only display wetin naija don teach them. E get good ones, and trust me they stay away from all the trouble

very true.

Plus
Oyinbo will never hide any valuable information from you but talk of our People in diaspora ehhh...





...
... fear devil

TSRC:
You just messed up a perfectly good post with bigotry.
Too bad.

The usefulness is lost.

Well, the way I was brought up was to state facts clearly and not tus.h them up. I believe if we as Igbos call out our brothers and sisters (which I do online and offline) to order, it will go a long way at mitigating the issue. It's because these countries don't care which ethnic group one comes from, trust me, if they do, you know what will happen. Yet again, before one gets a Thai visa, the individual must get a clearance from NDLEA. Whose fault is that?

emmyw:
Who Is This One? And You Not Lazy When You waste Time On Nairaland

You are as clueless as NIGERIAN president.... Smh

STENON:
very true.

Plus
Oyinbo will never hide any valuable information from you but talk of our People in diaspora ehhh...





...
... fear devil

Lol. Just start business or discuss an idea...20 naija go just start behind your back immediately

safarigirl:
Some complaints here are petty and unnecessary

The fellow that did not want to give his ID probably had valid reasons you are blissfully unaware of, for not giving that ID. Just because you decided to be a good little boy and sit on the ground for thw police doesn't mean everybody should do same.

And this one you came here to report all the ethnic groups in Nigeria from the abroad, you, what are the negative traits you have equally exhibited there? It is easy to report others, while parading yourself as an epitome of a law-abiding citizen.

In a real world scenario, what good reason can you pin point for not obeying simple instruction?

HarryDuce:
In a real world scenario, what good reason can you pin point for not obeying simple instruction?

perceived prejudice against your person.

What is simple instruction to you, might not be simple to someone else.

blackmantis:
Op you could have applied more tact by not mentioning any trybe while trying to pass your message.

It won't make sense then, sometimes sugar coating a message will make the message a joke. Or how better else will he have said it. Truth is Hausa's are the best tribe in Nigeria aside their religion wahala...

Nigsrdumb:
Why do Nigerians call black Americans akata,when they themselves are worse.
After careful consideration, I am convinced there's a low iq issue in Nigeria.
All this nonesense talk about Nigerians being smart is silly.
I am beginning to have a deep seated hatred for that country and the people.
Nigerians deserve the politicians they get along with all the sufferings attached.
I have started claiming Benin as my country..shekena

Guy u fit go o! But me I no fit claim Benin o! I wan claim Canada, or Australia. Everybody need to find somewhere to claim o! Cus this govt helped to destroy Nigeria's image both home and away. Yes Nigerians commit crimes abroad but we all not like that. Other countries also have their bad elements but their president don't come out to tell the world that their citizens r criminals. If u r vigilant u il notice that the news of Nigerians caught for one crime or the other escalated after the our leaders came out saying Nigerians r criminals. Now the economy has gone to shambles and the only way Nigerians think to solve the problem is to bale o! Run comot for this country and guess what! The other countries know this so they r even making sure the Nigerians in their country r sent home so that more il not come o!

Spot on we had the same discussion yesterday and even today. Sometimes I think it's a Yoruba or Igbo problem only to clearly see that it's a Nigerian thing.

Gerrard59:
There's what is called perception and this plays a great role in how Nigerians are viewed outside the country. If a particular set of people commit certain crimes continually in a particular place, then the residents have every right to view these individuals in whatever way they like. Prior to 2006/7, Nigerians could go to Singapore visa free but when there was an increase in drug related crimes perpetrated by Nigerians in Singapore, she stopped the visa free policy and adopted stringent policies towards visa issuance to Nigerians. According to you, Singaporeans are insensible.

Black people are at the bottom of racial groups worldwide (believe it or not) and the last thing to worsen how others see you is to commit crimes or behave brutishly or become loud mouthed. Unlike so-called Nigerian intellectuals who make asinine comparisons to Russians or North Koreans for cyber crimes, I condemn them in its entirety. Why? Nigerians are black people and that's a leverage lost. So because Switzerland has criminals doesn't mean they will be treated like Nigerians. It sounds unfair but that's how the world is and is ridiculous to worsen the situation.

My advice stands: whenever a set of people who behave brutishly and are loud mouthed reside, it's best to disassociate oneself from them irrespective of national or ethnic links. I'm not the one who started the thread neither I'm the one who controls the perception of how Nigerians are viewed in Vietnam, China, Malaysia, or Cambodia. I'm not the one who makes asinine and inane comparisons to other countries' citizens when I know the leverage I have. I'm not immigration officials who set Nigerians at airports from other citizens for further investigation. I'm not the one who doesn't condemn crimes but rather blame unemployment even in the US. I'm not the one who export cult activities to foreign lands. But hey, whenever I see these people, I should associate with them.

May you live long!

Most Nigerians home and abroad are guilty of grandstanding and it's quite a national epidemics, to be honest.
Bragging, boasting and showing off is a national embarrassment to which most Nigerians are fond of.
The Yorubas living in London are the worst culprit I have seen Yoruba men and women speaking inside the public Buses boasting about Babalawo and Sexual capabilities inside the buses with a loud voice with absolute disregard for other people.
Maybe, it's a way of getting attention that they're no longer illegal immigrants after so many wasted years.

Gerrard59:
Well, the way I was brought up was to state facts clearly and not tus.h them up. I believe if we as Igbos call out our brothers and sisters (which I do online and offline) to order, it will go a long way at mitigating the issue. It's because these countries don't care which ethnic group one comes from, trust me, if they do, you know what will happen. Yet again, before one gets a Thai visa, the individual must get a clearance from NDLEA. Whose fault is that?

Unfortunately, your facts are one sided.
The biggest and the loudest Nigerian internet fraudsters in the diaspora are not Igbo.
The momphas and hushpuppis of this world.

I don't see you talking about the internet fraud and the loud fuckkks that perpetuate it.
In fact you are hell bent on Asia when the bulk of our national reputation was damaged in Europe and america.
Your so called facts are incomplete at best and bigotry at worst.

emonis88:
Guy u fit go o! But me I no fit claim Benin o! I wan claim Canada, or Australia. Everybody need to find somewhere to claim o! Cus this govt helped to destroy Nigeria's image both home and away. Yes Nigerians commit crimes abroad but we all not like that. Other countries also have their bad elements but their president don't come out to tell the world that their citizens r criminals. If u r vigilant u il notice that the news of Nigerians caught for one crime or the other escalated after the our leaders came out saying Nigerians r criminals. Now the economy has gone to shambles and the only way Nigerians think to solve the problem is to bale o! Run comot for this country and guess what! The other countries know this so they r even making sure the Nigerians in their country r sent home so that more il not come o!

Brah let's stop sugar coating the average Nigerian has criminal tendencies.

I used to defend Nigeria with everything but seeing what's going on , I weep for the country.

Obviously I'm talking out of frustration and wish things change for better.

Look at them criminals and prostitutes

AntiBrutus:
Instead of some of you to read and take corrections, you will be seeing bigotry.

Which kind delusion of persecution is this?

Coming from someone who would pick offense when called a skull mining, imcestous Yoruba Internet fraudster.
Those are true. Are they not?

Pick your corrections from that.

MiztaYouneek:
Let me first of all say that I am not trying to be tribalistic here or referring to all Nigerians in diaspora as the same. I know there are many good and humble fellows out there who know why they left Nigeria and are making positive impacts.

I lived in a country years back which was dominated by the yorubas and if you see how some of them behave you will really ponder how they keep succeeding in living in that country. No respect for their host citizens, always feeling they own the country especially some that have made money. I was in a Nigerian restaurant one day and one man who was older than me came and started speaking Yoruba for me just like that. Out of respect I told him I don't understand the language and then he asked me if I wasn't a Nigerian. I told him I was a Nigerian but obviously Nigeria is not an all Yoruba country. The had the guts to open that stinking mouth of his that I know is already caused to tell me that I should question God to ask why I wasn't born a Yoruba. I know for sure they must have deported him by now or he might be in prison or something because I don't see such kind of a person making any positive impact in his life.

That aside I also had other terrible experiences with these yoruba people but I can't share all here. The main point is that not all of them had bad characters but the majority of them that did have bad characters sometimes affect all Nigerians in general even those with good characters.

Years later I have moved to a very different country which is more of a French speaking country and it is dominated more by the igbos. Over here is worse than the other country dominated by yorubas. Many of these igbo guys have no atom of respect at all for their host citizens. They feel they are making money and always trying to oppress their host citizens. Sometimes if you see how they talk and insult the citizens in English without any consideration that some of these citizens understand English a little. What surprises me most times is when some of these people will be insulting the host citizens saying things like if it was in Nigeria they can't do such and how Nigeria is better than the country, but they left the same Nigeria they say is better to another country not like if the host country invited them. It is really sad because I believe only some few people who have really travelled will understand the little points am trying to make.

Just last night, I was with an igbo guy who runs a legit business and we were on our way home because we stay in same neighborhood. On the way we noticed a lot of police presence but we just kept moving. Immediately we got close to a junction we saw two police officers who stopped us and they were speaking French so I didn't understand what they said. The guy I was walking with understands and speak french very well so he was communicating with them. The only thing I noticed was that they were pointing somewhere for us to sit down just like on the ground. I peacefully went to sit down and this other guy refused to sit and kept talking to one of the police. I didn't know what was going on as there were other people around as well but all speaking French so I signaled the other police that was close to me and told him I don't understand French but I needed to know what the problem is. Luckily for me he could understand English and he asked me for my identification. I reached out to my wallet and showed him then he asked if I was a Nigerian and I said yes. He then told me I can go because all they wanted to see was my identification so he called the other police and told him I don't understand French but I had shown him my identification and they both asked me to go. That was when I realized that all those plenty talk my friend was talking was unnecessary because they only needed to see our identification. I then called him aside and told him to calm down and speak with them gently but to my surprise he brought out his phone and said he wants to call some of his other police friends. I believe that angered one of the police and the next thing I saw was that they started pushing him to go and sit down where they initially asked us to sit. He kept on resisting while speaking French with them and the next thing I saw was two truck load policemen. Seems they were all together doing the patrol around the area and the whole story changed immediately. The environment became intense and that's how they pushed this guy into the truck with other people that they had arrested as well.

As for me, when I saw the way everything got intense I had no choice but to leave the place and started running home. Like that old saying "na who run from war dey live to tell the story". And that is what I am doing. Up till now he has not been released and no one knows yet where he is.

The bottom line of this all is that, though I know he will be released, it was just a very simple matter that would have been avoided by just being humble and able to show some respect that would have solved the problem and prevented any form of arrest in that forceful manner.

I don't see what it takes for us as Nigerians, no matter the money we are making, to always be humble to our host and respect them irrespective of age or anything. We have to learn to stop that attitude of I am better than my host and Nigerians have more sense than they do.

Whenever you travel out to wherever, please learn to show more respect and always be humble no matter how rich you think you have become.

this up here is the story of my life......

the matter don tire me.
the good thing tho is that we still have good number of upscale and sensible well educated Nigerians (especially in my area)
but the vast majority (especiAlly igbo and Yoruba ones, the uneducated and all) are just a big disgrace

nextstep:
So OP made several points about bad behavior of some Nigerians in foreign countries. Ironically, less than 6 posts later, representative Nigerians have started demonstrating those same traits... Unfortunately the message is being lost.

No mind them

I dey even feae to identify myself as Nigerian in some circles

it's that bad

blackmantis:
Op you could have applied more tact by not mentioning any trybe while trying to pass your message.

The OP is clever by half. He is downplaying the rudeness of a particular tribe to their hosts by picking the two trybes to share the blames.What you do amongst your countrymen irrespective of trybes is likely what you do outside the country.
To know if he has painted a true picture of what he claimed he experienced outside Nigeria,we should ask Nigerians of other trybes to tell us their experiences on manners or lack of it from Igbos and Yorubas who sojourn in their communities .