I see that Rene has joined the controversy of " SERPENT SEEDS" postulated by William Branham.

It is not a new postulation but rather forwarded by white supremacist organisation . Many use that to show how only the Jews are the original seed of Adam. It is not from inspiration not meditation as it were.

My sincere advice to Rene. The Bible never remain silent on some issues.
DONT BRING YOUR INTERPRETATION INTO THE MATTER. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS. TO GET BORN AGAIN AND ATAY IN FAIH RATHER THAT INVOLVE MYSELF IN OLD WOMEN FABLE.

STICK TO YOUR POLITICAL MINISTRY QHERE YOU ARE KNOWN.

jibrilELsudan:
Adam and Eve had sex and did not eat a physical apple.

When the serpent devil made Eve eat the apple, what he actually did was make eve suck his cuck and then play with and finger her kukunase. Therefore making her have sex with herself then with him.

When Adam came, Eve then made Adam to eat her kukunase and have sex with her.


THE SERPENT ON THE TREE WAS THE DEVIL.
THE TREE WAS THE DEVIL IN HUMAN FORM.
THE FORBIDDEN FRUIT WAS THE DEVIL'S HARD CUCK.

THE FORBIDDEN FRUIT EVE ATE WAS HAVING SEX WITH THE DEVIL.

THE FORBIDDEN FRUIT ADAM ATE WAS EATING EVE'S KUKUNASE AND HAVING SEX WITH HER.



FORBIDDEN FRUIT = CUCK + KUKUNASE + SEX.

TREE OF KNOWLEDGE = SPIRITUAL SOUL TIES OF SEXUAL INTERCOURSE + HUMAN BODY ANATOMY REVELATION + GUILTY CONSCIENCE AFTER HAVING SEX + WANTING MORE SEX AFTER HAVING SEX + SHOOTING THEIR HOT CUM IN THEIR MOUTH AFTER HAVING SEX.

Find and download" the book of Adam" for other eye opening expositions of the Bible I suggests "the lost books of the Bible"

Okuda:


your type of people always leas others to their destruction. the only thing you used tp justify the rubbish you were typing here is that Eve was not psuchologically ready to have sex. how can that be? when God already told them to fill the earth then was she a child when he told her that? You think God was a fool for saying fill the earth and not naturally give them the instinct of having sex even with no one teaching them? how is it possible that they would watch other animals have sex...when God said they should fill the earth why did he not put the same restriction on animals until when they are psychologically ripe?

so which other fruits exactly ws God telling them to eat if according to your own description , it was sex... or other parts of Eve body is touchable except her VJ? Take heed lest you think you are standing tall but actually falling...

lol, I'm not going to engage anyone in argument.
God wasn't a fool when he told them that.

A 13 year girl is ready to populate the earth biologically, but not psychologically.

If God says eat this, it's going tell you the appropriate time to eat it.

There's time for everything under the sun.

I won't reply you further... I've reasons I stopped typing, I know I'll step on toes.


God guide us all.

Reno made an intelligent discourse here, but the core point he is making may not be entirely true. To gain accurate understanding, there may be need for a lengthy discourse, which I will try to summarize here.

First, he was right when he said there was no literal tree. The account of Genesis 1, 2 was given by Moses and he obtained it by revelation. So many of the words he used were symbolic, possibly for want of appropriate words to use in conveying what he had seen. And I believe Moses only gave a summary of what he had seen. So we can treat the account the way we take the book of Revelations. Highly allegorical.

So between Genesis 1:1 and verse 2, there was a passage of time. The word 'in the beginning' was not the very beginning of God in his estate. It was the beginning of Eternity. Now creation and all that is in it (the heavens, earth, angels, celestial beings) are all in Eternity. Verse 2 says the earth "was" without form and void. The word translated "was" there is best interpreted as "become", "being". But when God created eternity, the earth was not void. The word "void" could be interpreted to mean wasteland, corrupted, desolate. The reason for this was because of the event that took place between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2.

Now Satan in his original estate was a cherub of very high rank. He was called a morning star, and his name was Lucifer. If you study scriptures, you will understand that cherubs were like gates or portals guarding a particular realm of glory hidden in eternity. What we refer to as earth was part of the region within which he had jurisdiction. So when he sinned, all the realms he was guarding became wasted. This was the reason for the work of the Spirit of God in verse 3. Darkness was upon the face of the deep. I'm coming, I'm making a point here.

So God placed man in Eden and asked him to exercise dominion on the earth. So there was a plan. The plan was for Adam to recover the rest of the fallen estate within which Satan had jurisdiction. Now understand that Eden was a spiritual city. It's not like anything we see here. Also the first man Adam was an intelligent being and he was placed in the garden to grow in knowledge till he attains immortality like God. The tree in the midst of the garden was not a physical tree. It was a form of life, and Moses used the word tree to capture it. It was the corrupted light of the Cherub, Satan. It was the human desire to explore more than what committed that made Eve fellowship in that knowledge and call Adam in with her. The tree of life was also knowledge, and it was what Adam was designed to come into.

This is why Paul continually echoed to the believers in his epistles, that having being saved, they come to the knowledge of the truth. This is the stare where your mind and consciousness is so woven with the knowledge of life in you that your body begins to resonate with same frequency until it is swallowed up in immortality.

So the fall had nothing to do with having sex. It was Adam fellowshipping with the knowledge of sin that brought about it. Sin is the corrupted light of a cherub.

Nice footwear

limitless777:


EPIC and the raw TRUTH my Broda.
May the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY JEHOVAH HIMSELF continue to bless Ur understanding and wisdom with HIS favour and grace all day everyday in JESUS mighty name.
I feel fulfilled.

The TRUTH is sweetening to the soul.
Will appreciate more clarities through WHATSAPP Bro.
Thanks

Naa, keep seeking knowledge and you will find it.

When you find the truth personally, you feel the joy.

For those that don't understand, Reno is saying that the knowledge/fruit is equivalent to kpekus/sex so if you eat it, you will be knowledgeable.

mysteryman2014:


God instructed Adam and Eve to multiply and fill the earth. So how come Eve getting pregnant is now a sin.

There's nowhere I pointed to that, eve getting pregnant wasn't the sin.

If as a child your parents drop food and warned you eat it by 1pm and you ended up eating it by 10 am... what's your sin in this since you were instructed to eat the food?


that's where the answer you seek lies.

cgniyi:


You lost me here. God told them to populate the earth yet didn't reveal how to go a about.

I've answered in the comments.

sacx:
The tree in the midst of the garden was not a physical tree. It was a form of life, and Moses used the word tree to capture it. It was the corrupted light of the Cherub, Satan. It was the human desire to explore more than what committed that made Eve fellowship in that knowledge and call Adam in with her. The tree of life was also knowledge, and it was what Adam was designed to come into.
y.

A question for you.

Eve ate from the tree....
Adam also ate from the tree.

So Adam had sex with Satan?

STAY AWAY FROM OLD WOMEN FABLE....

missjo:

It is obvious you have not read the creation story yourself to come up with this. How is it obvious? Because if you had, you would know that Adam was present right there when the serpent was talking to eve. The fruit is a real fruit: There was a tree of life (for spiritual nourishment), there was also a tree of the knowledge of good and evil (not to be eaten). There were many other trees. The emphasis on trees and fruits generally was because the first creation were all herbivores, no one ate meat not even the lions and tigers.
This is all the information i need to completely regard your narrative as false.

Oh and another thing, evil did not enter the world through Cain because all of his descendants were killed by the flood.
Noah is a descendant of Seth, the son born to Adam after Abel was killed. Evil came into the world again after the flood through the descendants of Ham, Noah's second son after Noah cursed him for seeing his unclothedness.

Lastly, tell that pastor in your last paragraph to go take some history lessons in Theology. The people who removed the books from the bible were translators because the Jewish council of Rabbis who convened to put the complete scrolls together in what you now call the Bible refer to those missing books as UNINSPIRED works. Uninspired means they were not written through revelations, visions, or dreams from God. By the time the Bible was being translated, the translators themselves began removing these books based off their own personal decision.
There are still Bibles with the complete books, no single thing missing from them but you have to go back to translations that were released before 1560 which is when the Geneva bible was produced. This is the first time it was divided into chapters and verses and arguably the first time The Apocrypha (Uninspired books) were removed.

Lol, I can't believe everything you wrote there... I'm not here to argue. I hate typing.

donjazet:
The Bible was written at a time written language was still developing and has been altered severally over centuries.

The first written bible as we know it was delibrated and voted upon at the council of Nicea under Emperor Constantine who United the Roman Empire under one religion called Christianity.
Not under "divine inspiration" as widely believed.

With the continuous advancement of science and knowledge, religion would take a back seat. People would become less superstitious and fearful of the unknown and rather curious and eager to learn about the unknown.

Bruh u are absolutely right & tell u what, it's already unfolding. That age has commenced. Age of Aquarius it's called.

Offpoint:

Lol, I can't believe everything you wrote there... I'm not here to argue. I hate typing.

Should i provide the verses?

Realbarc:


A question for you.

Eve ate from the tree....
Adam also are from the tree.

So Adam had sex with Satan?

STAY AWAY FROM OLD WOMEN FABLE....

Please read my OP again. Eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil had nothing to do with having sex. It was a fellowship. By fellowship I mean sharing in the knowledge of good and evil. In other words Adam started to look to a light different from what was ordained for him. That light was the corrupted light of the cherub known as Lucifer. That light was sin.

pressplay411:
What amazes me is that all this epistle was just to tell us that the fruit of knowledge Adam and Eve ate was Sex?

Reno Omokri tried letting out a dragon from the bottle, but before the dragon could completely slither out of the bottle, Reno Omokri quickly got hold of it and pushed the dragon straight back into the bottle and slammed back the bottle cover. Reno Omokri didnt have the bottle to fully let out the dragon. He was trying to make sense, but lost himself in the thick of it all, that he ended up tying himself up in knots and so couldnt bring himself to connect the dots, he earlier promised he will do

pressplay411:
That has always been one of the several speculations of its allegorical implications by interpretation of theological scholars.
But the fallibility in this argument is that the scriptures says Eve ate the fruit first before offering it to Adam.
Hence, unless she was asexual or masturbating, then the argument is flawed.

One thing Reno Omokri was bang on and 110% correct about, is that the Bible is esoteric, it is esoteric and at times full with multi-layered or multi-tiered meanings. Smh, lol, Genesis 2-3 sure does have verses with a very good share of these several and distinct meanings.

pressplay411:
Knowledge is in fact a term the scriptures uses to describe sex.

Not quite true, that knowledge is in fact a term, the scriptures uses to describe sex, knowledge is the term or word associated with having lawful coitus, when it isnt making love with the confines of a lawful setting, then the act of coitus is referred to, as having sex, having sex in the most blunt way of saying it, as at least, that is what one really is having, one is having sex. Take for example, contrasting how Adam knew his wife, but as for Abram, doing something similar, with Hagar, in Genesis 16:4, he is recorded as he went into Hagar and not that he knew her. Another example is with Judah and his daughter-in-law, he, in Genesis 38:18, is recorded that he went into her and not too that he knew her.

pressplay411:
Knowledge is also in fact sexual, hence Sapiosexuals.

What attracted me first to my missus, though beautiful and everything physical already in place, actually first was her intelligence. I knew and appreciated my missus' intelligence first before anything else. Lol, you do know that Eve before eating, wanted and pined for that too. Bah thats for another thread another day jor.

pressplay411:
But the sin was not that they had sex, but they disobeyed God's instruction. Sex is clearly not the sin. Disobeying God's instruction has always been what sin is.

The sin was the flagrant disobeying of a singly expressed command. When there is no law, there is no crime. Only one law was laid down, so we cant begin to accuse of them of being guilty of any other law except the one only. We know there were repercussions for any other thing done aside eating of the tree, but hey we dont want to go into that direction, besides it's too much to take for a thread like this

pressplay411:
Sex between two couples married to each other isn't sin. Sex outside marriage is what is sin.

I can live with this comment, even back in the day, when the Levirate marriage was on, alive and kicking, having sexual intimacy in that context, was not sin

Reno is a stupid man...

If trees mean 'male lover' Reno O'Mokery is tryna tell us God command Adam and Eve to be having community coitus with "trees of the woods" (other men) except for the one in the centre of the garden

See Eve's response:

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

Buhari should extract this guy and put him in DSS custody before he disgraces Nigeria Christian Worldwide

Well said @Reno. The part that interest me most about the whole write up is the part which he illustrate with conversation of two currency that lead to lost of value. Truly, we hardly study in this part of the world and as a result, many of us live with lies we were told by those we believed to have knowledge of what we failed to study. I was amazed the day I read about "ESU" which is referred to as Devil in Yoruba Bible translation. Do you know Samuel Ajayi Crowther ignorantly referred to "ESU" as Devil when translating the Yoruba version of the Bible? (You can Google it to know the truth).

missjo:
Should i provide the verses?

Yeah, and the part Lion was eating grass too

sacx:


Please read my OP again. Eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil had nothing to do with having sex. It was a fellowship. By fellowship I mean sharing in the knowledge of good and evil. In other words Adam started to look to a light different from what was ordained for him. That light was the corrupted light of the cherub known as Lucifer. That light was sin.

I have read it again.
The question was directed to the serpent seed disciples like Rene type of which I thought you were.

His arguement falls apart with that simple question. Adam ate does not imply sex as some want to see it.
The same should apply to Eve.

We know in parts but that does not give us the right to interpret the way we deem fit. Rene says he is a thinker but really there are fundamental flaws with it.

I remain silent on that flawed thinking

Offpoint:


There's nowhere I pointed to that, eve getting pregnant wasn't the sin.

If as a child your parents drop food and warned you eat it by 1pm and you ended up eating it by 10 am... what's your sin in this since you were instructed to eat the food?


that's where the answer you seek lies.

No where in the Genesis account that God gave timeline for procreation. The account mentioned specifically the existence of several trees in the garden meant for food but forbade the eating from a particular true which symbolized God right to choose for man. The idea that sex was involved is illogical.

You don't get it muttley so let me explain it to you. I read you up to this point and could go no further. I was sick by the beginning of the second paragraph despite knowing there's likely much truth and knowledge in it.

You are a very knowledgeable person muttley and I learn a lot from you but you suffer from word diarrhea, shit with which you paint your intelligence! Why the fuq do you think anyone will waste their time digging for pearls in all that yadayada of yours?

Please say buda, unless you are specifically calling my attention in future, and when calling my attention please make sure it is when you have engaged your brain.

MuttleyLaff:


iwayumeh and/or Reno Omokri havent got the chutzpah, to go the whole hog on this translation and deliberate mistranslation business

If all you do is follow the herd, then you've been brought up, and being stepping on centuries old, shipload of mistranslation bad bullshit or crap.
Most of my comments, like kkins25, can attest, either attracts a strong mind or put off an ignorant and weak one, like how budaatum will put them down as "blah, yada, blah, yada, blah, yada"

Your understanding, illustration and presentation of words made sense to some level. Only if we study and apply Scriptural text in their context (and not reading our opinion or men's opinion into the text of Scriptures).

Study to know! Be guided by, and speak "IT IS WRITTEN" instead of "It is revealed to my spirit." Who the hell is your spirit to receive revelations after the complete revelation of God's word have been made known to man through the apostles of Christ and prophets who were inspired by the Holy Spirit of God. (John 14:25-26; 16:13; 2 Peter 1:3; Jude 3).

So many had been deceived and misled by the statement: "The Lord revealed to me . . ."

He has a point, people take things in the Bible too literally...the point of conversion is also very correct, as Kings always have an agenda...

Damn!!! Looking like you re playing to his tune... Understand this, the moment you start interpreting the bible literally you start missing the whole thing.. Let me make you understand too that without the holy spirit the word of God(bible) would not be in existence. Yes there might be some misinterpretations and all that during the translation but it still doesn't make his statement right. There were two trees bearing fruits. One was knowledge of good and evil the other everlasting life... If he is saying eating the fruit of knowledge was having sex my question is if eve had eaten the tree of life would it still be sex? There were two distinct tree that had the quality of giving something, Satan was hell bent on making man fall(jealousy) and he knew the best way to do it which was making man know evil of cause God will be angry and wipe out human, but his plan failed because God did not wipe us out.. If you believe what renos said then you will also believe this "Satan telling Jesus to turn stone to bread was satan telling him to turn something to a beautiful female so Jesus can have sex". And jesus said man shall not live by sex alone... Smh... Study but let the holy spirit guild you, not this display of nonsense

budaatum:
You don't get it muttley so let me explain it to you. I read you up to this point and could go no further. I was sick by the beginning of the second paragraph despite knowing there's likely much truth and knowledge in it.

Oh dear, I am sorry to hear this. So that it doesnt get repeated, what "gangan", in the second paragraph, brought about the sickness?

budaatum:
You are a very knowledgeable person muttley and I learn a lot from you

Iron sharpens iron. I unashamedly and easily can say the same about you too budaatum, that you're are a very knowledgeable person, I learn quite a lot from you too and that I love how you keep me on my toes

budaatum:
but you suffer from word diarrhea, shit with which you paint your intelligence!

I do admit I do serve and give out tough bullshits, that some find too hard to take and swallow, and if at all swallowed, their stomach gets upset

budaatum:
Why the fuq do you think anyone will waste their time digging for pearls in all that yadayada of yours?

[img]https://s0/images/budaatumYada2.jpg[/img]

The reason budaatum answering your "Why the fuq do you think anyone will waste their time digging for pearls in all that yadayada of yours?" question, is because when anyone gives you free knowledge food, or "yada" as you correctly put it, it stops you from thinking. You just gobble up, chop, wipe and clean mouth, be none the wiser. There is nothing like a fast food free lunch on a platter of gold with me, budaatum, my dear friend. Everyone earns their keep.

budaatum:
Please say buda, unless you are specifically calling my attention in future, and when calling my attention please make sure it is when you have engaged your brain.

We all and each engage our brains, only that you quite a lot misread or misunderstand and also, maybe out of frustration or because of the time of the female's month, I dont know, but you do lose your comport and patience easily

Offpoint:

lol, I'm not going to engage anyone in argument.
God wasn't a fool when he told them that.

A 13 year girl is ready to populate the earth biologically, but not psychologically.

If God says eat this, it's going tell you the appropriate time to eat it.

There's time for everything under the sun.

I won't reply you further... I've reasons I stopped typing, I know I'll step on toes.


God guide us all.

i wont also reply you cos you are a mad man. Gods word isnot ambiguous. if God said multiply and fill the earth, and according to you, the tree of fruit and life was sex, then he said dont touch it , did he say dont touch it just to say you can later touch it or what? why would he tell you multiply but dont touch? other fruits he said they should touch are what exactly? other animals or what? you must be a compound mad man.

Offpoint:
It surprised me how people believed Eve ate a 'Fruit' and gave it to Adam and their eyes was opened.


God commanded Adam and Eve to populate the earth, they were in their youthful age and still growing up.

God has not let them know Vagina and penís is the tools they'll used... and they have no idea, hence they were not ashamed of their unclothedness.

They were warned not to 'ate' play with their genitals or have sex... they may see animals do their stuff but they shouldn't.

God knows the appropriate time, Eve is not Mature psychologically to understand what pregnant will look like.

The center fruit is nothing but genitals, devil still being pissed cuz he was thrown down vow to corrupt God creation. So he took human-like body "A serpent" serpent was the only creation with the closest human resemblance. ( remember it was cursed to today's snake and worse, looking like the very tool devil used was part of his cursed that's why snake got a dìck like look)

Eve was out naked and devil knowing much about sex starts filling Eve head with all kinds of sex sweets talks, since women fall for words and was amazed at the size of devil pènis"It was good for food and she desired it" eve gave him and had sex with the devil. Devil being a bad guy gave Eve different kinda style whom she was blown away with excitement took all she learned and straight to Adam... Adam couldn't withstand crazy stuffs she was doing to him, he gave in and had sex with eve... meaning Satan does round one and Adam does round 2.....

That's were eve got pregnant with twins, one sperm from the devil and one sperm from Adam.... (It's medically proven a woman can carry twins from different father if the time of sex is within same period)


I wish I can type further...

Pastors have no idea why God rejected Cane sacrifice, Cane is the devil seed.
The only way evil penetrate human race is through Cane, Devils has deposited everything he needed to destroy God creation in Cane DNA.


Ignore all errors, I hate proofreading...


There's a lot to type, let me stop here.


It's pitiful most Christians only read the Bible, the Bible has gone through a lot. So many things has been edited out...

There is a part of the bible that said we shouldn't add or remove from the word...
I asked my pastor in Bible studies why some books of the Bible were removed... the answers was "You don't need it"

Brother I love your inspiration.can we discuss more.here is my mail ifezuedesmond@gmail.com.
Let share more light on this topic

Offpoint:
It surprised me how people believed Eve ate a 'Fruit' and gave it to Adam and their eyes was opened.

God commanded Adam and Eve to populate the earth, they were in their youthful age and still growing up.

God has not let them know Vagina and penís is the tools they'll used... and they have no idea, hence they were not ashamed of their unclothedness.

They were warned not to 'ate' play with their genitals or have sex... they may see animals do their stuff but they shouldn't.

God knows the appropriate time, Eve is not Mature psychologically to understand what pregnant will look like.

The center fruit is nothing but genitals, devil still being pissed cuz he was thrown down vow to corrupt God creation. So he took human-like body "A serpent" serpent was the only creation with the closest human resemblance. ( remember it was cursed to today's snake and worse, looking like the very tool devil used was part of his cursed that's why snake got a dìck like look)

Eve was out naked and devil knowing much about sex starts filling Eve head with all kinds of sex sweets talks, since women fall for words and was amazed at the size of devil pènis "It was good for food and she desired it" eve gave him and had sex with the devil. Devil being a bad guy gave Eve different kinda style whom she was blown away with excitement took all she learned and straight to Adam... Adam couldn't withstand crazy stuffs she was doing to him, he gave in and had sex with eve... meaning Satan does round one and Adam does round 2.....

That's were Eve got pregnant with twins, one sperm from the devil and one sperm from Adam.... (It's medically proven a woman can carry twins from different father if the time of sex is within same period)

I wish I can type further...

Pastors have no idea why God rejected Cane sacrifice, Cane is the devil seed.
The only way evil penetrate human race is through Cane, Devils has deposited everything he needed to destroy God creation in Cane DNA.

Ignore all errors, I hate proofreading...

There's a lot to type, let me stop here.

It's pitiful most Christians only read the Bible, the Bible has gone through a lot. So many things has been edited out...

There is a part of the bible that said we shouldn't add or remove from the word...
I asked my pastor in Bible studies why some books of the Bible were removed... the answers was "You don't need it"

The part of the bible that said we shouldn't add or remove from the word, is not talking about the already compiled canon of scripture. It is not talking about the collection or list of sacred books accepted as genuine, but is saying, do not make the Bible more interesting, by adding extra details that are often untrue. This is exactly what you have done quite often in your comment above. You've exaggerated story lines in the Bible with half truths, fantasies, fake news and bad bullshits.

The books that did not make it into the Bible as whole, are books with questionable and suspicious veracity. They cant be relied on as honest or truthful. They literally are fantasy books, and effectively are fake content news, so the reason for their exclusion in the Bible.

The pastor that advised that you dont need those books, is right and should be given a chilled bottle of orijin plus a truckload of kolanuts. Your post was offpoint in many places, sorry pun was intended, and had more holes than in a Swiss cheese, but I want to know, if you can plug one hole, from answering this question. Offpoint, why, according to Genesis 3:17, is/was the ground cursed because of Adam?

penocrat1:
Brother I love your inspiration. Can we discuss more. Here is my mail ifezuedesmond@gmail.com.
Let share more light on this topic

Lol, at "I love your inspiration" compliment.

Nwanne, what are you that strongly attracted to and interested in, that you're ready, keen and prepared to go offline discuss, hmm?

jibrilELsudan:
[s]Adam and Eve had sex and did not eat a physical apple.

When the serpent devil made Eve eat the apple, what he actually did was make eve suck his cuck and then play with and finger her kukunase. Therefore making her have sex with herself then with him.

When Adam came, Eve then made Adam to eat her kukunase and have sex with her.


THE SERPENT ON THE TREE WAS THE DEVIL.
THE TREE WAS THE DEVIL IN HUMAN FORM.
THE FORBIDDEN FRUIT WAS THE DEVIL'S HARD CUCK.

THE FORBIDDEN FRUIT EVE ATE WAS HAVING SEX WITH THE DEVIL.

THE FORBIDDEN FRUIT ADAM ATE WAS EATING EVE'S KUKUNASE AND HAVING SEX WITH HER.



FORBIDDEN FRUIT = CUCK + KUKUNASE + SEX.

TREE OF KNOWLEDGE = SPIRITUAL SOUL TIES OF SEXUAL INTERCOURSE + HUMAN BODY ANATOMY REVELATION + GUILTY CONSCIENCE AFTER HAVING SEX + WANTING MORE SEX AFTER HAVING SEX + SHOOTING THEIR HOT CUM IN THEIR MOUTH AFTER HAVING SEX.[/s]

https://www.nairaland.com/5443784/response-allegory-garden-edens-account

You may just be trolling but don't joke with things like this

MuttleyLaff:
The part of the bible that said we shouldn't add or remove from the word, is not talking about the canon of scripture. It is not talking about the collection or list of sacred books accepted as genuine, but is saying do not make the Bible more interesting by adding extra details that are often untrue. This is exactly what you have done quite often in your comment above.

The books that did not make it into the Bible as whole, are books with questionable and suspicious veracity. They cant be relied on as honest or truthful. They literally are fantasy books, and effectively are fake content news, so the reason for their exclusion in the Bible.

The pastor that advised that you dont need those books, is right and should be given a chilled bottle of orijin plus a truckload of kolanuts. Your post was offpoint in many places, sorry pun was intended, and had more holes than in a Swiss cheese, but I want to know, if you can plug one hole, from answering this question. Offpoint, why, according to Genesis 3:17, is/was the ground cursed because of Adam?

Lol, at "I love your inspiration"

Nwanne, what are you that strongly attracted to and interested in, that you're ready, keen and prepared to go offline discuss, hmm?

lol, at questionable and suspicious...
Try get the full version of the Bible and read from those books that aren't included in today's Bible.


At your question, Adam was enjoying free meal without working for it, God was feeding him. After he loss his place with God. Fending for himself becomes part of his PUNISHMENT... since the earth was fertile as of that time, which means he wouldn't even feel the PUNISHMENT of feeding for himself as a big deal... God decided toughen up the soil.
This way he'd feel the impact of his punishment and show some kind of remorse.

FYI after disobeying God, Adam was never remorseful but instead was pointing fingers of accusations.
He didn't acknowledged, non take responsibilities for his actions.

iwayumeh:
A The Allegory in The Garden of Eden Account of the Fall of Man


When Christ said “except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you” (John 6:53), He did not mean His literal body. Most people will accept this as true. The Son of God was obviously not advocating Papua New Guinea style cannibalism.


He was of course speaking of His figurative body and blood, which we partake in when we observe Holy Communion, a practice that began 2000 years before Christ came to Earth, as demonstrated by Abraham and Melchizedek in Genesis 14:18.

So, why do we take other Scriptural accounts that were meant to be taken figuratively, literally?

There are accounts in Scripture that were written in Hebrew and Aramaic and both of these languages tend to use polite words for things, places and situations that may be indiscreet to mention in decent company.

For instance, the word that would literally be translated as carnal copulation or coitus between a man and a woman is referred to as knowledge or know in the Old Testament of Scripture.

So, when Genesis 4:1 says

“Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.”

The word knew in question is the Hebrew word ya-da‘ and it is a polite way of saying that Adam had coitus with Eve. That word is used in various tenses and adjectives of the word know, including knew, knowledge, knowing and to know. Bear this in mind, as I will connect the dots later. But first, let me share a first hand account of a girl who once lived and may still live in the ancient city of Benin. It is a true story.

Have you ever known or grown up with or watched an innocent, chaste young girl grow up? If you had, you will know that young girls can be quite impressionable and easily swayed.

For instance, I know of a young girl in Benin, an ancient city in Nigeria, in the early 90s who was like that. So innocent. So bashful. So chaste and pure. Until one day, this girl changed. What happened to her? A certain big man in the neighbourhood had taken advantage of her.

No. It was not rape. This big man (now an ex Senator) was popular in the neighbourhood for his wealth and his philandering ways. Apparently, he had his eyes set on this innocent girl and one day, he ‘innocently’ gave her a lift, propositioned her, and in her naivety, she got carried away, and this man had carnal knowledge of her and they became habitual lovers.

It was clear to the whole neighbourhood that this girl had changed. Her eyes became open. She lost her innocence. Her natural hair was no longer good enough for her. She got a perm. And her terracotta skin would no longer do. It was a case of Tura to the rescue. The more she invested in Tura cream, the shinier and lighter she became.

Her dressing also changed. She became a Lolita. She would no longer talk to us, small boys and girls, in the neighbourhood. Her level had changed. She was now above us. She became a sisi. I do not know if this word is still in use in today’s Nigeria, but those Nigerians known as Bendelites, would catch my drift.

And then her sugar daddy tired of her, or maybe not. Maybe he just found a new impressionable young girl fresh out of secondary school and moved on. I do not know which. You never quite know with these things. But in any case, she became another in the long list of neighbourhood girls he had used and dumped.

The above is a true story. I know the name of the girl, the name of the ex Senator and the neighbourhood were this occurred in Benin, Nigeria.

But why is it relevant? It is relevant because it is an example of how an innocent girl can lose her innocence and literally have her eyes opened by having a sexual encounter.

I have read the Scriptures from cover to cover and in multiple translations as well as in English, Greek (New Testament), Aramaic and Hebrew. I have also visited Israel, Greece, Rome, Ethiopia, Turkey and many other places in search of deeper insight into Scripture.

How well do you know the Scriptures? I have a secondary school friend named Kehinde, who is now sort of a pastor and he wrote on Facebook that he has jettisoned all other translations of The Holy Bible and he just holds to his King James Version jeje (a Yoruba word meaning gently), and I laughed. If only he knew!

If you have only read one translation of Scripture, I urge you to read another one. And then another. A lot is lost in translation. For example, if I converted $100 into pounds today, I may get £80.30. But if I tried to buy back $100 with that £80.30, I would not be able to. Why? Because value is always lost in the conversion process.

It is the same with Scripture. Scripture was not written in English. It was written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek. And when Scripture is translated, a lot of value is lost. That is why you should read multiple translations. But the best is to teach yourself the original languages or learn them professionally, then read original manuscripts in their mother language.

Why? Because Scripture was inspired by God, but translations were, in many cases, inspired by men. Men, like King James, who had his own agenda.

You have probably read Matthew 11:12 in the King James Version, which says: “And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.”

The truth is that what the original Greek says and what the KJV above says, are almost as different as night and day. You read the above and feel like taking the kingdom “by force”. But that is because it was translated at the behest of a king who had a conqueror’s mentality.

Let us read that verse in the New International Version and see if you will even recognise it:

“From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been subjected to violence, and violent people have been raiding it.” Now, let us read it in the Contemporary English Version: “From the time of John the Baptist until now, violent people have been trying to take over the kingdom of heaven by force.”

Or consider Isaiah 45:11 in the King James Version, which says:

“Thus saith the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me.”

Now, it appears to indicate that God wants us to command Him about the works of His hand. But, you must understand that that is what a King wants to hear, and since he paid for the translation, that is what his translators gave him.

But read it in the New International Version.

“This is what the LORD says– the Holy One of Israel, and its Maker: Concerning things to come, do you question me about my children, or give me orders about the work of my hands?”

Let us also read the Contemporary English Version:

“I am the LORD, the Creator, the holy God of Israel. Do you DARE question me about my own nation or about what I have done?” You can see from the NIV and CEV, that God is warning us not to dare presume to command Him. He is God and we are man. He is the Creator and we are His creatures.

Do you now see what translations can do? He who pays the translator dictates the translation.

Take something like leprosy. When you read the word leprosy in the King James Version, it is rarely referring to what you know as leprosy. The Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek words translated as leprosy, often refer to a variety of skin diseases, but the translators could not find an exact meaning for them, so a choice was made to call any skin disease leprosy.

You have probably read or heard of Naaman, the head of the Syrian Army in 2 Kings chapter 5. He is referred to as a leper in the KJV and many other English translations. But almost all scholars, and even the translators of the KJV, put a cautionary note indicating that the word leprosy, as used for Naaman, is a generic word for skin disease. It is more likely that Naaman had another type of skin infection.

How do we know? Because, in those days, actual lepers were isolated and ostracised and it is unlikely that a leper would rise to the trusted position as head of the king’s army and stand in the presence of the king. Leprosy was often infectious, and in those days, they had little knowledge of which leprosy was infectious and which was not.

If you read Scripture, you would see that it is a truthful and holy work and is the inspired word of God. However, the word of God in Proverbs 2:4 says that you cannot truly understand God’s wisdom except you “seek it like silver and search for it as for hidden treasures.”

Turn to Songs of Solomon 2:3 and you will read the following:

“As the apple tree among the trees of the wood, so is my beloved among the sons. I sat down under his shadow with great delight, and his fruit was sweet to my taste.” (KJV)

Songs of Solomon is a book believed to be written by King Solomon (its authorship is not certain) about the carnal intercourse of two young lovers. The theme is about the erotic intimacy of the lovers.

But note how King Solomon (?) uses polite words to describe the male lover. He is described as ‘the apple tree’, while other men are described as ‘trees of the woods’. Next, notice how he describes the coitus between them. The young female lover says ‘his fruit was sweet to my taste’.

So a tree means a man, and coitus is described as fruit that is sweet.

In Rabbinical Judaism, Songs of Solomon 2:3 is said to represent “the male sign of the covenant organ of procreation.”

Remember those dots I promised to connect? Now may be a good time to connect them, but I don’t want to connect them for you. Perhaps you can connect them yourself.

I would not want to dwell too much on this issue other than to say that my readers should read the whole of Songs of Solomon chapter 2. When you have done so, consider reading Genesis chapters 2 and 3. And after you have done so, sit back and think. Perhaps the Spirit would minister to you.

In fact, William Shakespeare borrowed (or stole?) lines from Songs of Solomon in several of his works including Romeo and Juliet. Some think, and I agree with them, that he did this because in Elizabethan England, coitus was considered too unseemly for decent conversation and so it had to be referred to in allegorical terms, which the Songs of Solomon does in a way that no other work of human origin does.

Why am I writing this? I am writing this to remind, or perhaps to inform my readers for the very first time (if they did not already know this), that Scripture is an esoteric book that should not be read, but studied.

The word of God says: “STUDY to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.”-2 Timothy 2:15.

Study. What a simple word. But a deep word, nevertheless. It is a word that runs very deep. It means that you read, in an unhurried pace. Then you ponder over what you have read. Medicate and meditate on it. Chew it over, until it permeates your soulish man and crosses over to your spirit man, where true understanding is.

For as Job 32:8 says: “there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.”

In this part of the world, we are very lazy to study and as this is the case, we easily fall prey to people who depend on REVELATION rather than ELUCIDATION by studying Scripture. But in reality, IT IS WRITTEN is a far more accurate way to stave off spiritual error, than THE SPIRIT TOLD ME.

May God bless you and open your eyes to understand His word and may He feel you with the urge to “Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life:”-John 5:39.

Reno Omokri

Thinker. #1 Bestselling author of Facts Versus Fiction: The True Story of the Jonathan Years. Avid traveller. Table Shaker. Buhari Tormentor. Sharer of the Gospel, not the gossip.

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Whoever the writer of this poem is should actually put up a good write up instead of this immature post feeling like you intend putting anyone but yourself in some kind of suspense.
For someone who claim to have read the Hebrew version of the Bible should do better than this. I would have taken you serious if you had mentioned Aramaic in the first instance.
You will only succeed to deceive those who do not understand the contents of the Bible.
Please kindly assist in bringing the parts of the scriptures whose meanings were lost in translations.
We will be greatful. But I hope you can also find out the true language of your tribe and the first language they spoke and how the dialect changed over the years up to the time you were.