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| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by Nobody: 9:15am On Sep 25, 2019 |
betterview3:Just seeing this. betterview3:This first one is stool test. This is the main target. Infection is in your stomach and it comes out of your stool. betterview3:This is serum. it's not in your blood - Antigens (like the poisons). Some tests can even quantify the antigens. Note that even after you have killed h.pylori, antigen can still be in you fir many months. Your body flushes them out gradually. So, we call it false positive. Doctors can never help you. They will give you more antibiotics. Triple therapy, even add one more antibiotic, maybe they will soon come out with 5 combos. lol. You better not listen to those telling you to go for antibiotics. Go and take statistics. check the internet. People don't get cured again with antibiotics in recent cases. Another issue is that, you must have infected all the members of your family, or someone there infected you. Anyone you share cutleries with will surely be infected. Anyone you kiss and there is exchange of saliva will catch it. It spreads through water too. You can Google it. Everyone around you must be tested and treated. Else, you will be reinfected. betterview3:Very good. But it's not enough to give you rest of mind. betterview3:Start jubilation bro. This is the best news. No cancer. Go and do thanksgiving. But I advise you to go and check your blood for cancer cells. Do that to be 100% sure you are 100% cancer free. betterview3:Dont do endoscopy again. I don't trust how labs sterilize their tubes in Nigeria. It can cause infection. No blood occult - just start jubilating..Guy, you need to start running. I am sure the lining of your intestine is really messed up. And you are lucky, no ulcer. Please, start running. You do not have ulcer, but have h.pylori. As soon as anyone tells me ulcer, I know that the curse is h.pylori - 98% probability. All ulcer patients must check it. That's the main cause. And doctors still don't check. They keep treating ulcer without treating the real cause. I pray they start reading this. Because they are stub.born people. They think they know it all. Yet, they keep killi.ng people. Thank God you took the bold move to do all the tests. These are tests you can do in Nigeria to confirm it. And here you are with h.pylori. You are likely to have the following symptoms- athlete foot, eczema or rashes you cannot cure, itches, low speed count (very possible), premature ejaculation, erectile dysfunction (guy, when last did you have morning erection)...lol. Mouth odor, body odor. Guy, go check well. Ask your girlfriend or your siblings, or anyone close to you, they will tell you that your breath is somehow funny. Go look at the mirror, you must have white coats on your tongue. These are after effect of h.pylori and the abuse of antibiotics. Infact, doctors make patients abuse antibiotics seriously. They know nothing about infection. I think infectious diseses department should be set up everywhere. betterview3:Funny issue is that you might have cured h.pylori, or weakened it after using antibiotic the first time, but you were reinfected. How? As soon as you use antibiotics, it clears all other good bacteria. And when this happens, good bacteria level is low and cannot balance the level of opportunist fungi and yeast in your system. Those one outgrow beyond the limit required. My brother over 70% people infected with h.pylori are infected with Salmonella. Others are: Clostridium difficile and E. coli, fungal overgrowth with Candida and parasite infections such as Blastocystis hominis, Giardia and hookworm, etc. These are all stomach bugs. And even you clear h.pylori, you may not feel better, or you may feel relieved a bit for a short period of time. It's not psychology sir. The doctors you met cannot help you anymore. Antibiotic is terrible. If frequent constipation is one of your symptoms, hehehe....antibiotics and even malaria drugs will complicate it more. So, I will advise you to use antibiotics as first aid, and not as the real treatment. Or better throw away antibiotics. Your best chance is to first take powerful herbal treatment which you are ordering yourself from abroad. I don't know about herbs in Nigeria because they aren't documented, but I know some that have been documented. I don't take money from people bro, you order them yourself. And I think it's around $130 - $150. But before you even use this herb, you must flush your system. How? You must change your diet. I have written about it. Please, I am not talking about these herbs and supplements around. It's pure food you eat to flush your system. Not herbs, not supplements. You position your body in a good condition for minimum of 30 days before taking herbs if you want them to work well. I have serious challenge with farmers in the Agric section of nairaland. They hate me now because I am saying the truth. Bro, you have to move to 100% organic if you want to get well ooooo. If not, this is your lifestyle, pain, and agony till you die. betterview3:Guy, doctors maaaa.d ooo. Anything they don't know is pschological. It is not. And you will lose more opportunities if you don't treat it. No praceful marriage for you bro. Solution 1. Stay on special diet for good 30 to 60 days with exercises. This will readjust your stomach so it can allow the herbs you are going to buy work at optimum. Stay away from inorganic food. 2. Use herbs known for h.pylori that have been tested. You will spend between $150 to $300 --- 30 to 60 days therapy. 3. Go for comprehensive test to check if h.pylori is still there. Then, you will check other infections. Also, all good flora in your gut will be checked. Your test will show you what to buy for step 4. I think you will spend above $1,000 because these tests are done abroad. You will do it yourself as I don't have anything to take from you. 4. In accordance with step 3 above, you will take medications for all the bad bacterial and yeast infections. And kill all parasites. Then, you start taking probiotics and prebiotics to fill in good bacteria that have been flushed away by antibiotics you have consumed. This is compulsory, else there is still no control in your gut, and opportunist ones will grow overtime again. 5. You go back to step 3 after 1 year of consistent usage of your medications. Most herbs to kill bad bacteria stop around max of 90 days. Check specific infections after 1 month of using medication. So, you keep on eating good food and keep taking your enzymes, probiotics and pre biotics. Only recommended ones in accordance with the result of your test. You will feel better after max of 60 to 90 days, but you must continue. And after this test, if you see any infection, treat it again and go for the test of that bacteria which will be cheaper. Make sure you keep checking yourself for at least 2 years so you know that you have balanced it all. I don't buy drugs for anyone, and I don't take money from anyone. Also, I don't make public suggestion on what to use because of cr.azy people who will start attacking one. Before you know it, a doctor will come out and start cursing one. Yet, he has no solution. This is my only post on this thread as I will not reply anyone again. Nairaland is filled with maaaa.d people. May God heal you. |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by Nobody: 9:41am On Sep 25, 2019 |
Pistotita:Good one and commendable except the bolded which is preposterous. I suggested the triple and quadruple combination therapy here but I had to deactivate my account and set up another one because of a troll. You suggested an alternative medicine approach using some probably undocumented herbal formulation which I totally advice against because of the Nigerian situation. However, OP must know that the h pylori has become resistant to the drugs he has used and the same drugs has altered tremendously his gut flora. As a result, there could possibly be opportunistic organisms causing the same symptoms typical of h pylori. I do not tell people to use anything herbal, there's no way one can know what's in there. Those formulations are not peer reviewed and extensively studied to be certain of their efficiency. The op asked a question of the brands of the drugs I mentioned. Clarithromycin and metronidazole/tinidazole/lansoprazole is combined in a regimen known as a Heli Kit from Reals pharmaceuticals and is very effective. If you must go herbal, pls source your products from amazon online store and educate your self on what you chose. The drugs sold there have proper documentation and reviews. |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by Nobody: 1:44pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
Good one and commendable except the bolded which is preposterous. I suggested the triple and quadruple combination therapy here but I had to deactivate my account and set up another one because of a troll.The only reason I will reply you is that you are a coward. I stay in the midst of troll. You are just behaving like 419 and scammers by deleting accounts. You are not even sure of yourself. Find out everything very well, research before making comments. Did you read the part I wrote about comprehensive test? The test is expensive, and I will tell you the reason. All bad bacteria, fungi and other organisms will be detected. And sensitivity tests will be done too. The result will show you all antibiotics and herbs that are tested. Did you read where I wrote that he should treat himself based on the test result? One issue with h.pylori is that you dont need sensitivity test to use all the antibiotics you even listed. So, there are also herbs tested and trusted that are well known all over the world. All he need to do is Google these drugs if he opt for the. I can only tell him, it's his choice to use, or not. Infact, these 4 herbs are always prescribed in all the reports I have seen based even on sensitivity test. Do you have to tell him to do sensitivity test before he can use the ones you prescribed? If you have seen anyone cured of h.pylori in the past 4 years using antibiotics, kindly give us the proof. And all the medications you talked about, the man had already used them. So, you think herbal guys willl wait and allow doctors and chemical drug producers destroy their business and industry. There are sensitivity tests done now for herbal drugs. You will even see that herbs are better based on the result lf the sensitivity test. They are more effective. If you care to research further, check these herbs online for published experiments done using human. To fulfill all righteousness, let him go for triple or what ever therapy. It's just 2 weeks therapy. I can bet him that he will repeat it many times and still not get better. But after the antibiotics, he should rest for a week. Then, commence his food therapy to readjust his system. Thenafter, he should go for the comprehensive test after 1 month. Food therapy is the most important. It is not only h.pylori affecting him as it is now. He must flush out all the opportunist organisms. And the test will show him all the bad organisms in him, and also recommend herbs and antibiotics to use, but he should opt for herbs; though, Herbs are more expensive. And please, stop making bad recommendations. Herbal formulars are not best purchased on Amazon. There are recommended online stores that are licensed in advance countries. Stop writing what you dont know about. The patient can consult the laboratory he opts to use. But not on amazon. Stop writing rubbish. Stop confusing people. And please, antibiotics therapies are not the best option. |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by partnerbizn5(m): 5:19pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
Sorry bro. Maybe you take the drugs first. Lalasticlala help this bro |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by Finelinks: 4:11pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
partnerbizn5:Lalasticlala won't see such. except it's tacha or coza naa. |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by betterview3(op): 11:16am On Oct 03, 2019 |
Kindly assist me lalasticlala, Just help me with this. I am not asking for money. I have visited over 8 hospitals, three of which are teaching hospitals. I have proof. I am not also relying solely on views here. But I want the best and have the confidence that Nairaland will be of help. What I have lost because of this illness is unquantifiable to the extent that it made me suicidal at a point. Help me get more views by front page please. |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by Healthyway15: 12:36am On Oct 04, 2019 |
betterview3:Hello... you don't have to always be in pain. you're the one that doesn't believe in our supplements. The supplements are made by a reputable company, and people share their testimonies every time they use our products. There's no offence in trying, a trial will convince you! |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by betterview3(op): 2:09pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
MedicH tabithababy TenthMan ndindiatu flexyonline drlaykay egopersonified |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by MedicH: 2:32pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Right here |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by drlaykay(m): 4:05pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
betterview3:This is quite interesting I must say.. If u don't get relieved, no matter how minute, from either of antacid, proton pump inhibitor (like omeprazole) or H2 receptor antagonists ( like cimetidine) then it's time to stop thinking about peptic ulcer. H. Pylori can be present in normal individual without peptic ulcer. And it's not the mainstay for diagnosing peptic ulcer. Endoscopy still remains the key element. So let's puncture this. What part of the abdomen is the pain? Upper or lower right or left? Do u urinate too frequently when this pain is intense? Do u feel pain while urinating? For the pain to aggravate to the groins it could be a ureteric stone. Unfortunately the ultrasound scans might miss it. The CT scan could miss it too unless it's a non contrast CT. Xray too could pick it depends on the type of stone. So the best investigation is a non contrast CT. All the same, online diagnosis can't be relied on. Go to a good doctor, discuss my possible diagnosis with him. He takes a comprehensive history and guides you on carrying further investigations. And if it's not ureteric stone, then I might be forced to join the band of other doctors who think it might be psychological. All the best |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by betterview3(op): 6:50am On Oct 05, 2019 |
drlaykay:Thanks Doc. I don't get relief from ppi, h2 receptor antagonists etc. I have no difficulty or pain urinating. None at all. The sensations or hotness, (more of like hotness) gets to my groin. I feel my whole body from neck to legs hot. As per part of pain, it's not as if, it's a particular area in the abdomen. No particular side. I have been examined too physically by many. I FEEL THE HOTNESS or cramp EVERYWHERE. It same hotness that radiates to my whole body. It's feels like someone is pouring methylated spirit on open wound. I feel worse if i bend to tie my shoes or pick something on the floor. Feel worse if i try to pound with a mortar, or if a bus hits a pothole. Anything that causes bodily movement like running etc. I feel worse if i get bad news too or lose substantial sum. I am confused and tired. I havent gained weight too but lost some. I know online is not hospital but I have met over 50 doctors at different times. I just want to see if I can get a clue then find doctors offline I can suggest to. I strongly believe its not pyschological, I know what i am going through. Thr Ct scan was with contrast. UNTH further confirmed h pylori 3 days ago. Making it 3 different labs. Blood samples were used in all. I observed that having diarrhoea that leads to watery stools gives me a small relief. THANKS a lot for your input and concerns. I appreciate them. |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by drlaykay(m): 11:29am On Oct 05, 2019 |
betterview3:Now I get a clearer picture. This is a neuropathy.. Like a nerve is entrapped. But sadly u might not be able to tell where it's coming from... See a neurologist.. Attempt neurovite, it could help. And intravenous vitamin B complex... You can send me a mail, let's discuss better |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by betterview3(op): 9:08pm On Oct 05, 2019 |
drlaykay:okay, i have sent a pm Thanks! |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by betterview3(op): 5:19pm On Oct 08, 2019 |
Seun, could you please intervene? |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by ifyalways(f): 8:35pm On Oct 08, 2019 |
Im not a medical doctor ![]() |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by SendAbroad: 6:56am On Oct 09, 2019 |
It's a shame that some of the hospitals you mentioned you visited said it's psychological. I shall revert with treatment for H.pylori. Done.
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| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by betterview3(op): 11:07am On Oct 14, 2019 |
ifyalways:Thanks! |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by betterview3(op): 11:11am On Oct 14, 2019 |
I have pleaded so many times on this thread for this to be moved to the front page. No moderator has paid heed to my pleas. Did I violate any rule? I have not asked for money from anyone. I did not include my phone number, neither am I advertising anything. Did I do anything wrong? Till this moment, I wake up each day in severe pains. ALL I NEED IS WIDE READERSHIP TO HELP ME DECIDE ON STEPS TO TAKE. Kindly help @ lalasticlala mynd44 seun |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by oxypress: 8:26am On Oct 18, 2019 |
This looks like IBS (irritable bowel syndrom) Read it here. https://googleweblight.com/i?u=https://www.webmd.com/ibs/guide/digestive-diseases-irritable-bowel-syndrome&hl=en-NG If you agree with this dg we can take it up from there. If not, just say so and we will come back to the drawing board. You complicate matters by treating what is not there. |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by betterview3(op): 3:24pm On Nov 17, 2019 |
DISCLAIMER I am not asking for money please. Not here to scam anyone. MODIFIED: Based on prescription, I treated h pylori using tinidazole, clarithromycin and lansoprazole for 7 days bd followed it with amoxil 1000g bd and lansaprazole for 5 days. UNFORTUNATELY, still feel worse. Seun, mynd44 lalasticlala Please help me move to front page |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by betterview3(op): 3:25pm On Nov 17, 2019 |
2ballz please, your input is needed |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by betterview3(op): 8:27am On Nov 26, 2019 |
DISCLAIMER I am not asking for money please. Not here to scam anyone. MODIFIED: Based on prescription, I treated h pylori using tinidazole, clarithromycin and lansoprazole for 7 days bd followed it with amoxil 1000g bd and lansaprazole for 5 days. UNFORTUNATELY, still feel worse. Seun, mynd44 lalasticlala Please help me move to front page |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by betterview3(op): 11:55am On Nov 27, 2019 |
Please who can help me ask the mods what I have done wrong to warrant not being answered here sissy3 dominique midnighter toks2008 |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by midnighter(f): 12:23pm On Nov 27, 2019 |
Urinary stones, abdominal nerve entrapment, or some bacterial issue in your lower intestine Sorry did you take the combination drugs for H pylori yet? Sounds like neuropathy to me since it is not affected by your diet. Or muscular |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by betterview3(op): 12:53pm On Nov 27, 2019 |
midnighter:Yes, exhausted the drugs for h pylori. No improvement at all. |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by betterview3(op): 12:54pm On Nov 27, 2019 |
midnighter:Couldn't ct scans or ultrasounds have shown those things suggested? |
| Re: Hospitals Visits for abdominal pains. Advice Needed please by betterview3(op): 12:59pm On Nov 27, 2019 |
drfd please |
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