ChrisKels:


Maybe Ademola is some consolation, but definitely not Saka. Saka is more naturally gifted than both Fikayo and Tammy. If we get Saka, England would be sad that they went for the wrong guys in Tammy and Fikayo.

Earthquake1:


No player is undecided, you play for the country you want or settle for less

edi287:

Hyped Dele Alli has scored 53 league goals for Spuds as a CM at 23 years of age. Hyped or not - that is a big deal.

edi287:

He was undecided. He most likely would've made the switch if things didn't change like Tbaba1234 said.

Earthquake1:


Nobody said once you're born abroad you are not Nigerian but if you have two passports you have to choose where your loyalty lies

Abraham has made his choice and is fully English, Iwobi has made his choice and is fully Nigerian, you can be fully citizens of both countries as Komekn was insinuating

timay:


You can't be a full citizen of two countries. You will always be loyal to one than the other, no matter what. Why do you think a lot of countries have constitution against people with dual citizenship holding some certain key and sensitive position.

Although, the context here is football. But on technical grounds, you can't be a full citizen of two countries at the same time because of loyalty and division of interest.

Earthquake1:


Nobody said once you're born abroad you are not Nigerian but if you have two passports you have to choose where your loyalty lies

Abraham has made his choice and is fully English, Iwobi has made his choice and is fully Nigerian, you can be fully citizens of both countries as Komekn was insinuating

chucs:
From the writeup I read, some people made such insinuations.

What i'm implying is that upbringing helps in making those kids raised abroad have stronger connection with their roots. Some of these kids don't feel like Nigerians and doesn't want to be associated with the country eg Dele Ali, Barkley etc. So they dont even have that option. How are u sure they have Nigerian passport to start with?

That someone represents a foreign country doesn't make him less Nigerian. It has to do with the mindset. I used Antony Joshua as an example.
I ones watched a tv documentary of Serge Gnabry discuss about his Ivorian root and how he supports local kids in his little way.

chucs:
From the writeup I read, some people made such insinuations.

What i'm implying is that upbringing helps in making those kids raised abroad have stronger connection with their roots. Some of these kids don't feel like Nigerians and doesn't want to be associated with the country eg Dele Ali, Barkley etc. So they dont even have that option. How are u sure they have Nigerian passport to start with?

That someone represents a foreign country doesn't make him less Nigerian. It has to do with the mindset. I used Antony Joshua as an example.
I ones watched a tv documentary of Serge Gnabry discuss about his Ivorian root and how he supports local kids in his little way.

Earthquake1:


Yeah but according to Komekn those like Tammy Abraham, Dele Alli must be forced to be 'fully Nigerian' even if they don't want anything to do with Nigeria

timay:


@the bolded is debatable. Shebi u know that technically , those People are now less Nigerian.

In the sense that in the Nigerian constitution, one of your rights as a citizen is the right to vote and be voted for. As a dual nationality person, you might still vote but you can't be voted for because of your dual citizenship, meaning you can't contest an election for a political position in the country, except you renounce your other citizenship. So this makes you less Nigerian because you don't enjoy the full right as a Nigerian. And I'm sure this clause is not peculiar to the Nigerian constitution, because a lot of countries in the world also has that clause.

Although the decision of the boys to represent England should be respected, but saying that they are also more Nigerian is debatable and cannot be 100% correct as some of them don't own or have never even applied for the Nigerian passport before.

Earthquake1:


Are you telling me as a 20 year old professional you don't know what country you want to play for?

Don't deceive yourself, those who consider Nigeria are because they are no position to choose, Sheyi Ojo, Akpom etc

iSlayer:
This moves to get this foreign born lads are getting almost clandestine. You just sit back and allow the foreign system develop them. After all, your own system is moribund and diseased. The players in your system are over aged and have stunted development. You don't bother about the home front, who cares anyway. After these foreign born are moulded into stars in another system then you come knocking on the door, "Hello lad, do you know you're Nigerian?"

edi287:

Yes especially if they have dual nationalities.

iSlayer:
This moves to get this foreign born lads are getting almost clandestine. You just sit back and allow the foreign system develop them. After all, your own system is moribund and diseased. The players in your system are over aged and have stunted development. You don't bother about the home front, who cares anyway. After these foreign born are moulded into stars in another system then you come knocking on the door, "Hello lad, do you know you're Nigerian?"

gamaliel9:
What is ROHR talking about? I was thinking once you play for any country in u20, you are tied to them.... u17 no follow

timay:


@the bolded is debatable. Shebi u know that technically , those People are now less Nigerian.

In the sense that in the Nigerian constitution, one of your rights as a citizen is the right to vote and be voted for. As a dual nationality person, you might still vote but you can't be voted for because of your dual citizenship, meaning you can't contest an election for a political position in the country, except you renounce your other citizenship. So this makes you less Nigerian because you don't enjoy the full right as a Nigerian. And I'm sure this clause is not peculiar to the Nigerian constitution, because a lot of countries in the world also has that clause.

Although the decision of the boys to represent England should be respected, but saying that they are also more Nigerian is debatable and cannot be 100% correct as some of them don't own or have never even applied for the Nigerian passport before.

iSlayer:
I think Saka was the one who was interviewed and stated unequivocally that he is Nigerian. Getting those ones are easy. Has Tomori or even worse still Tammy ever ever identified as Nigerian? I don't think so.

If people can consider what these players identify as, not everyone will be feeling so disappointed afterwards.

Arnaut Danjuma is an example. During one of his interviews he spoke of Nigeria as one distant place he's not familiar with. Few weeks later the opportunity came and he flew at it, joining the Dutch team.

edi287:

Hyped Dele Alli has scored 53 league goals for Spuds as a CM at 23 years of age. Hyped or not - that is a big deal.

edi287:

They probably won't cry too much over it. They have that Mason Greenwood kid or whatever his name is. Crazy baller.
Good time to snatch Saka.

edi287:

They probably won't cry too much over it. They have that Mason Greenwood kid or whatever his name is. Crazy baller.
Good time to snatch Saka.

Earthquake1:


Are you telling me as a 20 year old professional you don't know what country you want to play for?

Don't deceive yourself, those who consider Nigeria are because they are no position to choose, Sheyi Ojo, Akpom etc

ChrisKels:


They did, buh the guy chose Euro U21 tourney with England, instead. He was never interested in playing for Nigeria, in fact, if he had failed with his English dreams, his next stop would av been Canada not Nigeria. So folks in here should stop crying.

tbaba1234:


This is not true. If Tomori was loaned out this season, he would have switched to Nigeria. Facts. Once he became a Chelsea first team player, England became his priority.

chucs:
You are talking about politics and i'm talking about football( two different things).

tbaba1234:


The choice of playing for Nigeria is not dependent on feeling Nigerian.. Trust me, many of these boys 'feel' Nigerian. Feeling Nigerian is not the same as wanting to play for Nigeria. The Nigerian lady running for Bahrain feels 'Nigerian'.

Tammy listens to Nigerian music, many of the friends in his circle are Nigerian kids. He grew up in a very Nigerian home. The decision is usually about what they think benefits their career more.

ChrisKels:


Maybe Ademola is some consolation, but definitely not Saka. Saka is more naturally gifted than both Fikayo and Tammy. If we get Saka, England would be sad that they went for the wrong guys in Tammy and Fikayo.

ChrisKels:


But u and ur Osun State deputy governor approached him nah?

ChrisKels:


What exactly isn't true, that he went to the U21 Euros or that he was approached when he was with Derby?