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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Nobody: 6:53am On Oct 06, 2019
Area4Area:
Since you said you want to deal with the Yorubas and not Americans or Spaniards, deal with them by first telling Igbos in the SW to leave them alone
Is now since we want to?

Oga is there any Igbo man occupyiy your father's property without due pay in ur yorubaland??
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Nobody: 6:54am On Oct 06, 2019
Area4Area:
Emotional and insulting already all because of a question you can't answer
Emotional to someone like me..lol

next
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Area4Area: 6:57am On Oct 06, 2019
MelesZenawi:
Is now since we want to?

Oga is there any Igbo man occupyiy your father's property without due pay in ur yorubaland??
Just do as I said and stop beating about the bush, deal with the Yorubas by telling the Igbos in the SW to leave them alone or maybe that's the most difficult thing you've been asked to do
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Area4Area: 6:58am On Oct 06, 2019
MelesZenawi:
Emotional to someone like me..lol

next
Emotional and insulting, yes and that was why you spewed "ozu a" all because of a question
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by NkitaAla: 8:24am On Oct 06, 2019
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Commentor:
Why not speak ibibio with him?
Since anybody can do it.
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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by wordcat(m): 8:43am On Oct 06, 2019
Binikingdowm:
You people needs to start behaving like Fulani people and push an Igbo agenda even minorities will fear, don't beg only slaves beg.
Exactly what we the Igbos need
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by achikolo(f): 9:04am On Oct 06, 2019
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Commentor:
Why not speak ibibio with him?
Since anybody can do it.
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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Elvis778(m): 5:25am On Jun 11, 2021
[quote author=Ekpeitit post=82855023][/quote]Baba answer him, how has your region's relationship with Hausas benefited your region against your relationship with Igbos?
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Elvis778(m): 5:26am On Jun 11, 2021
[quote author=Ekpeitit post=82855023][/quote]Baba answer him, how has your region's relationship with Hausas benefited your region against Igbos?
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Elvis778(m): 5:50am On Jun 11, 2021
hustleranthem:
What I know is the Delta ibos don't really associate themselves with Biafra so it will be difficult for them to accept an alliance.
Lol, which kind lie be this? Why are you even so pained about Biafra? Delta Igbos that I know and relate with ABI u get another Delta wey I no know?
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Elvis778(m): 5:55am On Jun 11, 2021
pazienza:
However, I strongly believe that a Biafra between Ndiigbo and SS minorities will end up as disastrous as South Sudan.
It doesn't make any sense for Ndiigbo to escape a babel of confusion called Nigeria, only to entangle unborn Igbo generations with another encumbrance by getting cobbled together with the myriads of ethnic groups in SS.
You said it all, atleast there would be no tribal hatred anymore
I personally only subscribe to an Igbo-Igboid only Biafra, between SE and willing (They will only be incorporated into Biagra if they indicate interest to join , as I don't support forceful annexation. ) Igbo speaking communities in SS.

Under such a country, we can elevate Igbo language to a lingual franca, build the nation on Igbo based cultural values and social orientations , without any one shouting of Igbo domination. It will be a befitting homogeneous nation, worthy of being handed over to our successors.

We can always maintain cordial relationship with our Minorities neighbours and partner with them in ventures of mutual interest.

Ka Chineke Mezie Okwu.
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Elvis778(m): 6:03am On Jun 11, 2021
Ekpeitit:
This sounds like the rantings of a rejected and frustrated man.
To be honest,nobody cares about where Igbos go,it would be very good riddance to very bad rubbish.
The only problem is that you can't go by yourself, (you are completely landlocked) that's why you are trying to drag us into your battle.We are absolutely comfortable in Nigeria and if we ever want to form a new country in future it will be with other Niger Delta tribes who have something to offer not another scavenger who will be living off our oil.
We can't go by ourselves? Wtf are you even talking about?? Watch and see, we will, and left for me, I would love a Biafra with just 1 language which is Igbo, a homogeneous country, an actual nation.......u can got to hell with your oil, this is 21st century, oil that's becoming irrelevant .....we have R.niger, it can be dredged and used as our own waterways, you will be shocked with the progress of Biafra when it comes.
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Elvis778(m): 6:10am On Jun 11, 2021
Ekpeitit:
No we in Akwa Ibom State are not your enemies, we just don't trust you and we don't want to be included in your Biafra nonsense,we are very happy where we are.
If you are very happy and don't want, does that warrant insults? You made your point clear, which most of us even prefer, so what's with the insult if not that you are pained??
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by oyatz(m): 7:20am On Jun 11, 2021
selemempe:
you killed it bro...ask him which part of South south is as developed as Abuja or Kano.

Oil will not be relevant By 2040
This should be the problems of the S/South people and not your problems sir.

By the way, which city in the S/East is as developed as Port-Harcourt, Asaba, Warri or Uyo?
Compare and contrast Rivers Vs Anambra, Delta Vs Enugu, Akwa-Ibom Vs Imo, C/River Vs Abia or Edo Vs Ebonyi States.

As at 2021, the S/South is now ahead of the S/East in terms of development.
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by oyatz(m): 7:26am On Jun 11, 2021
wingmanIII:
You are not smart after all if you cannot name one landlocked African country. Uganda in East Africa is one
So Uganda is doing very well?


How many of your people do you see trooping to Uganda for greener pastures?
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by oyatz(m): 7:59am On Jun 11, 2021
Area4Area:
You are very correct but let me chip in some points most of these IPOBians don't know bro, the Sothos of Lesotho and SA are same people and same ethnic group and identity,
The Swazis in Eswatini(former Swaziland) are same with their people in SA so both have no problems with the SA authorities, moreover, they've already had several agreements and treaties with SA on immigration, trade and the rest.
@the bolded, the online Biafra doesn't have any agreement with Nigeria to designate the River Niger as international water or territory, no agreement yet with Nigeria on using the Bight of Benin in the Atlantic for trade so Biafra is dead on arrival without Nigeria's approval
Most of the IPOB members don't fully understand the implications of their actions.
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by selemempe(op): 8:42am On Jun 11, 2021
oyatz:
This should be the problems of the S/South people and not your problems sir.

By the way, which city in the S/East is as developed as Port-Harcourt, Asaba, Warri or Uyo?
Compare and contrast Rivers Vs Anambra, Delta Vs Enugu, Akwa-Ibom Vs Imo, C/River Vs Abia or Edo Vs Ebonyi States.

As at 2021, the S/South is now ahead of the S/East in terms of development.
Asaba is not as developed as Onitsha
Warri is not as developed as any SE is city.
Only Uyo and PH can claim that

Of course it shouldn't be my problem because you yorubas have sworn to always turn a blind eyes to other people's problems and to constantly support evil. That's how you faves us buhari and planning on giving us Tinubu.

Evil people everywhere
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Elock1: 11:09am On Jun 11, 2021
selemempe:
The need for Biafra cannot be over emphasized. First of all, Nigeria is the only country in the world with three major tribes and a 50/50 Christian and Muslim population. That is our major bane and has made national cohesion and integration impossible till tomorrow. Infant, Nigeria is the only country without a national culture or ideology.

However, the call for Biafra has made the Igbos seem weak in the midst of our close neighbours and allies the south south. Everyday we see someone claiming south south, opening a thread and either dissociating their tribe from Biafra or starting an insult against Igbos because of the believe of pro one Nigerians that without south south Biafra is dead.

Is that true? Let's look at the map of Nigeria again
https://d2071andvip0wj.cloudfront.net/styles/image_medium/s3/component/image/nigeria-biafra-map-3dec15.png?itok=vFwPplnn
The south east is surrounded by Nigeria on all sides but it can stand as a country on its own. Estwatini is doing great inside south Africa

https://www.countryreports.org/cdn_image/exW_1200/images/maps/en/wz/wz-area.gif

Estwatini is doing better in terms of quality of life and infrastructure than Nigeria. South east has a port in Onitsha and assess to river in Abia. There is oil and gas in Anambra, imo and Abia. There is still coal in Enugu.

If going forward, the south south folks refuse to unite with us who has never done anything against their interest then we must cut them lose or forget about Biafra.
Afonjas or no Afonjas, truth is that the South south has not done enough to show they are friends of the Igbos. Enemies can only sow the seed of discord where the ground is fertile.
After backing GEJ in 2015 and being hated by the north for it, did it stop Asari Dokubo from calling Igbo ijaw slavé?

How long do we keep lying to ourselves about the reality of our relationship with the south south? What have we ever gained from these people? The civil war was caused by a south south man, but it was us in the south east that paid for it.
The abandoned property saga was not done anywhere else except the south south.

We accept the ibibios in Abia but the ibibios will not accept and respect the Igbos in Akwaibom. We accept the Igala in Anambra but they won't accept the Igbos in kogi or Benue. We accept the cross river tribes in ebonyi, but the cross riverians will not accept the Igbos in cross river.

How long do we play big brother to rude people? The south south should either start acting like dependable allies of Igbos or get cut off. Right now the Igbos seem not to have allies, better that than a fake ally who gives nothing but takes everything, including our dignity.

We must not live in a bubble. Reality is real.
My opinion right from day one... These people are just indifferent, deep down they want to be free but are too scared and lazy to fight for it.. Let's just take our igbo brothers in the so called south south and leave.. Simple
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by oyatz(m): 5:09pm On Jun 11, 2021
selemempe:
Asaba is not as developed as Onitsha
Warri is not as developed as any SE is city.
Only Uyo and PH can claim that

Of course it shouldn't be my problem because you yorubas have sworn to always turn a blind eyes to other people's problems and to constantly support evil. That's how you faves us buhari and planning on giving us Tinubu.

Evil people everywhere
Learn to stick to the topic being discussed instead of introducing unrelated events (thereby muddling up issues) and discuss one issue at a time.


In terms of development, Onitsha is lagging behind Asaba, the capital city of Delta State.
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by selemempe(op): 5:13pm On Jun 11, 2021
oyatz:
Learn to stick to the topic being discussed instead of introducing unrelated events (thereby muddling up issues) and discuss one issue at a time.


In terms of development, Onitsha is lagging behind Asaba, the capital city of Delta State.
and you know this from ogbomosho. Show me pics of Onitsha and Asaba let's compare.

P.s why do yorubas support evil? Are you guys evil?
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by oyatz(m): 5:36pm On Jun 11, 2021
Danzysb:
This is the usual mindset of foolish people we have in this country,you are part of the backward minded folks who think everything begins and ends with oil,Oga you don't have any idea how the south east works,you think a common business minded igbo man cares about oil in niger Delta or Nigeria....the igbos are very industrious and commercial.ok you are claiming that your region has much IGR,where has the IGR taken yoy,your family and Nigerians so far....IGR or no IGR Nigeria is still the poverty capital of the world and you are here talking of IGR,if igbos are on their own as a separate country Nigeria would become a laughing stalk.......
Since 1999, every State is being ruled by their people. Why hasn't all these superlative attributes of the Igbos not translate to development of their States?

Why is poverty index of Enugu and Ebonyi States about 40% and 60% respectively?

Provision of portable pipe borne water and efficient waste disposal are within the purviews of State Gov'ts, yet Enugu is still unable to provide just these two services effectively.


I am of the opinion that Biafra (or any country out of Nigeria) can survive and even thrive well if they are determined enough to do so , not because they are Igbos but because they are humans!

However, things will be very rough in the first 10years.
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Nwaide01: 5:36pm On Jun 11, 2021
Tolexander:
This one sha wan try to make sense by force.

Is Eswatini an enclave inside South Africa?
Can Igbo nation practise the kinda government in Eswatini?

Which waterway leads to the port in Onitsha?

I’ve not really taken my time to go through that nonsense typed. Just try to answer those questions first.
Why are you guys always taking pills for someone else sickness? Support the Igbo to have their country and forget about what becomes of them afterwards.
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Nwaide01: 5:41pm On Jun 11, 2021
Tolexander:
You have no good knowledge of diplomacy

Only Lesotho is an enclave in South Africa. What is the diplomatic relationship between Lesotho and South Africa? They are on a good relationship, no problem between the two nations so the seaports in South Africa can be used by the Mosotho government and the land can be used based on the diplomatic agreement between the two nations.
Unlike Nigeria and the proposed enclave, Biafra, there will be bitter feeling and a severe relationship tide between the two nations.

Based on the R. Niger being an international waterway, can the Nigerien government use the River Niger from the delta discharge to Wersternmost end of Kebbi State for cargo? That is a question to you.

The fact that a water is designated as international water, does it mean the nations involved do not have their own part of the water which can never be trespassed by any nation without permission? I’m sorry for your knowledge o
Quite blowing grammar just pray for the actualization of Biafra first then we'll see how this your permutation panned out.
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by oyatz(m): 5:48pm On Jun 11, 2021
selemempe:
and you know this from ogbomosho. Show me pics of Onitsha and Asaba let's compare.

P.s why do yorubas support evil? Are you guys evil?
1) Pictures of cities aren't not acceptable means of comparing development.

2) What is evil in this debate, Onitsha or Asaba?
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by selemempe(op): 6:01pm On Jun 11, 2021
oyatz:
1) Pictures of cities aren't not acceptable means of comparing development.

2) What is evil in this debate, Onitsha or Asaba?
ok so I should take your word for it that Onitsha that has been a major Igbo commercial centre since 1920s is less developed than Asaba that became a real town under IBB? In Delta that criminals have been running since 1999?

Oyatz my yoruba Christian brother...why are you and your people evil? Show me a picture that any part of Delta state is more developed than any part of Anambra
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by oyatz(m): 6:02pm On Jun 11, 2021
revolt:
another very stupid post... Israel has no access to the sea and so do a couple of western European nations.
Stop showing the world your ignorance by stating on a public forum that Israel has no access to Ocean.
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by selemempe(op): 6:10pm On Jun 11, 2021
oyatz:
Since 1999, every State is being ruled by their people. Why hasn't all these superlative attributes of the Igbos not translate to development of their States?

Why is poverty index of Enugu and Ebonyi States about 40% and 60% respectively?

Provision of portable pipe borne water and efficient waste disposal are within the purviews of State Gov'ts, yet Enugu is still unable to provide just these two services effectively.


I am of the opinion that Biafra (or any country out of Nigeria) can survive and even thrive well if they are determined enough to do so , not because they are Igbos but because they are humans!

However, things will be very rough in the first 10years.
is that why the only times you post on nairaland is on biafra threads...to tell us why it is impossible
Or on Tinubu threads ...to show us why he would be president by fire by force in 2023.

You one nigerianists from SW are the worst. We all know why the north would want one Nigeria...but why you guys can't have ambitions beyond 2023 baffles me.
We know why the north seek power and what they do with it when they get it. Why do yorubas seek power and what exactly do you think you would achieve with tinubu in power
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Tolexander: 6:45pm On Jun 11, 2021
Nwaide01:
Why are you guys always taking pills for someone else sickness? Support the Igbo to have their country and forget about what becomes of them afterwards.
Why not call on all ndigbo residing outside alaigbo in Nigeria to retreat home for us to take you seriously
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by oyatz(m): 9:24pm On Jun 11, 2021
selemempe:
is that why the only times you post on nairaland is on biafra threads...to tell us why it is impossible
Or on Tinubu threads ...to show us why he would be president by fire by force in 2023.

You one nigerianists from SW are the worst. We all know why the north would want one Nigeria...but why you guys can't have ambitions beyond 2023 baffles me.
We know why the north seek power and what they do with it when they get it. Why do yorubas seek power and what exactly do you think you would achieve with tinubu in power
This is irrelevant to the topic being discussed.

You can open another thread to discuss all these.
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by oyatz(m): 9:32pm On Jun 11, 2021
selemempe:
ok so I should take your word for it that Onitsha that has been a major Igbo commercial centre since 1920s is less developed than Asaba that became a real town under IBB? In Delta that criminals have been running since 1999?

Oyatz my yoruba Christian brother...why are you and your people evil? Show me a picture that any part of Delta state is more developed than any part of Anambra
Asaba is more developed than Onitsha in terms of;

1) Infrastructure: well paved dual carriage ways with serene residential Estates, portable water system, more efficient waste disposal system, less chaotic public transport system, less air and noise pollution etc.

2) Public Amenities: Federal Medical Center, Asaba.
Asaba International Airport.
Stadia.
Modern Shopping Malls etc.

3) Security of Life & Properties: More visible security forces, less presence of violent groups in confrontation with the Police etc.
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by revolt(m): 12:02pm On Jun 16, 2021
oyatz:
Stop showing the world your ignorance by stating on a public forum that Israel has no access to Ocean.
my mistake I meant Ocean. Israel had no access to the ocean only the medit....sea and dead sea which infact are more lakes linked by the river Jordan. Israel has not access directly to the ocean. ? Seas are quite different from ocwans. Thanks for that though... will correct asap
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