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| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by TheExecutioner: 7:10am On Oct 06, 2019 |
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| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Sunnycliff(m): 7:10am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Yes they are. Only Islam hates Paul and his epistles |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Orissodiq: 7:13am On Oct 06, 2019 |
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| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by toprealman: 7:14am On Oct 06, 2019 |
OP stop confusing yourself. |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by TheExecutioner: 7:14am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Jesus came for both the Jews and the Gentiles. mrvitalis: |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by mrvitalis(m): 7:15am On Oct 06, 2019 |
TheExecutioner:Where did he say that |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Didijiji: 7:21am On Oct 06, 2019 |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Nobody: 7:22am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Another son of Satan trying hard to create controversies where there's none. |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Cutehector(m): 7:22am On Oct 06, 2019 |
If you like have all the faith in this world, If there is no love, you are nothing! Shebi this one dey Bible too? So what does it tell you? Every fvcking message from Genesis to revelation is fvcking important! Fvcking important!!!! Dont take half and leave half |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by FirstSon01: 7:24am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Jesus came for all mankind but since he hadn't died on the cross we weren't saved only the Jews but before he died he said one thing to His disciples "go into THE WORLD and preach the gospel" so that's why Paul preached to everyone |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Moventist: 7:27am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Nothing different between the two However, Jesus'message was direct to the people which connects the Trinity while pauls message dwells on the the baground already laid by Jesus. Therefore the contents is same only that one lay the baground and one builds . certainly foundation is different from roofing but same building,that's what you're trying to point out |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by TheExecutioner: 7:28am On Oct 06, 2019 |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by IamaNigerianGuy(m): 7:30am On Oct 06, 2019 |
It is true that there are glaring differences between Pauline and Christ's teachings but it is not because the Bible is progressively revelatory as you claim. Jesus was a Jewish carpenter from Nazareth. Paul was an urbane well read Roman citizen. The outlook and interpretation of both, the first revealing the scripture, the other repackaging it for a wider pagan audience must be acknowledged. I can refer you to other explanations if you are interested. |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Habeyy(m): 7:30am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Pls ,I refer you to john 14 -25 as quoted by d op Jesus Christ was born under the law and so his teaching and ministration was done under the law That of Paul under the grace Remember the "comforter" as Christ said He promised a comforter that comes in the form of Holy spirit Shalom |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by mrvitalis(m): 7:32am On Oct 06, 2019 |
TheExecutioner:Now read Mathew 15 vs 24 Reason I stop being religious |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Rensolar(m): 7:32am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Yabsun:Godbless you sir. The OP totally forgot that before the death of Jesus men were sanctified by physical acts they do but after his death sanctification came through his blood alone! |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by gazza07(m): 7:33am On Oct 06, 2019 |
princeade86:obviously, u only read the topic. Big head, small brain |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by toolovely(m): 7:33am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Looking at the first two examples you gave, there's no difference. When Jesus was still here, his teachings were purely to the father who sent him on a mission. Now, Paul on the other hand was always referring to Jesus. As of the time of Paul, Christ had risen and his death signified forgiveness of our sins. The second example, Jesus gave conditions to be saved but Paul said, believe in Jesus Christ. So if you believe in Jesus Christ, you also will have to know and keep to his teachings. There's no contradiction anywhere here |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Elijahrona(m): 7:33am On Oct 06, 2019 |
princeade86:The best way to hide something from a black man is to hide it in a book. |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by princeakinola1(m): 7:37am On Oct 06, 2019 |
You need Holy Spirit to teach you how to read and understand,Apostle Paul did not preach against want Jesus preached,let me use your first case as an example,if you read it well you will understand that Paul is telling them to forgive each as God do forgive us,if you didnt forgive each other,100% God will not forgive you,remember want Christ said on the cross,Father forgive them because they didnt no what they are doing,if CHRIST didnt forgive then the His pain on the cross will go in vain. |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by monimekaz(m): 7:37am On Oct 06, 2019 |
unstoppable51:Your knowledge of the word of God is too shallow .It is either you lack simple English comprehension skills or you decide to let d devil use u. |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by TheExecutioner: 7:38am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Read it through to Matthew 15 vs 28. What does Jesus do in Matthew 15 vs 28? mrvitalis: |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by paxonel(m): 7:38am On Oct 06, 2019 |
unstoppable51:hello! There are difference in what Jesus thought the Jews and the Pharisees(people practicing Judaism and not Christianity) as at the time he was yet to be crucified when there was nothing like Christianity on earth, with what Paul thought Christians after Christ resurrected. So, understand the time difference. The former was still at the era of the old covenant(no grace) even though Christ was present physically, while the later was the era of the new covenant full of grace |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by debayun(m): 7:42am On Oct 06, 2019 |
I hate it when people think they can use logic to read and understand the bible without the help of the Holy spirit doing that is like trying to operate the android phone without the android os or driving a car from the passenger's seat. The holy spirit wrote the Bible so how do you think you will understand his book without him. Doing such leads you to jump yo foolish conclusions like the OP jumped to. |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by SIMEONMPEE(m): 7:42am On Oct 06, 2019 |
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| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by princeakinola1(m): 7:42am On Oct 06, 2019 |
mrvitalis:God is not actor of confusion of His words,if you see real unseen hand of God you will know God is God |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by EagleNest(m): 7:43am On Oct 06, 2019 |
There is no contradiction at all in both teachings. It is very simple unless you choose to complicate it. "Forgive others just as God has demonstrated to you as an example, by forgiving you through Christ",...how is this complicated? And what Paul was saying on Faith and Work, is similar thing as demonstrated in the encounter between Christ and the rich young ruler. When he was told the more difficult aspect of his belief he become sorrowful because that will indeed be a big faith shaker. Work is a product of Faith or put in another way, work is faith in action. The more you put your faith to action the more it increases with more revelations beyond what you think you know before. Peter also experienced this later in his ministry when he was sent to bring salvation of Christ to the household of Cornelius a gentile, which is contrary to what he knew, that salvation is only for the Jews. His eyes of understanding was opened more when he did. Lastly, don't forget that Jesus appointed Paul to his ministry. Same Spirit worked in them so no space for confusion. |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Dokitadotun: 7:43am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Jesus before his death also operated mostly based on the old testament principle becos according to the bible in the book of Hebrews, a new testament can't began until the death of the testator. This is why it was after his death that he told his disciples to go in to all the world and preach. Before his death Jesus only sent them to the house of israel. On the issue of forgiveness and the rest, if you want to be honest to yourself has God not been good to you despite your shortcoming? If God was actually operating, in this new testament era, an old testament then nobody would have remained on the earth. |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by IamAtikulate: 7:44am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Jesus teaching was before his death. He operated under the law to set us free from the curse of the law. The Apostles' teachings are all the same, no contradiction. Their teachings was based on the era of Grace. Jesus teachings was to prepare and usher in that era. The death of Jesus put an end to the Law. If you read your Bible so well, you would have known all these quotations. |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by lloyds(m): 7:44am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Jesus is the same speaking through Paul. Paul only expanded the words of Jesus, because he was a philosopher. Greetings. |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Nobody: 7:45am On Oct 06, 2019 |
There is NO difference. |
| Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Orjioorji(f): 7:46am On Oct 06, 2019 |
@op God bless your knowledge of the scripture. The problem with black man is we only read headlines and judge the topic without going through the whole letters, the op did justice to his question by giving us the true answer but everybody here judge him opposite. Pls read before you criticise |
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