Wake up, critically think, and look at the facts!

The Roman Empire was an evil and immoral society that engaged in unjustified wars, mass orgies, wife swapping, man - boy sexual relationships, beastiality, extreme pedophiliar, brutal slavery, and death for sport. Given that it was these evil and immoral Romans that wrote the Bible in 325 A.D. totally disqualifies it from containing the true words of an infallible God.

African people globally: facts must matter if we’re ever going to liberate ourselves. Furthermore if it’s your intention is to live your entire life — going from the cradle to the grave —- believing in a Bible that was written by Romans than you should at least learn the truth about the Romans that wrote the Bible people and their culture.

Firstly: I’m aware that many Black Christians will immediately defend their belief system by claiming that Christianity was first practice in Africa’s Ethiopia. However this is absolutely untrue. Christianity and the Jesus messiah myth was created by the Roman Emperor Constantine and the Council of Bishops in 325 A.D. ( Research the Nicean Creed and the creating of Jesus) Christianity did not become the official religion of Ethiopia until 341 AD. That was sixteen years after the Romans created the false religion. It was the Romans that wrote the Bible, created the Christian religion and then imposed the religion upon Ethiopia.

Now here is the article:

The 11 Most Sexually Depraved Things the Roman Emperors Ever Did
By Rob Bricken

Warning:
I must warn you that some of the things that this (European) author divulges about the Romans is extremely difficult to read. Especially in regards to the Romans having sex with children. If reading this unsettling history will offend you, I suggest that you not read this article about the Romans.

The emperors of Rome could be wise, just and kind. They could also be vindictive, cruel and insane. And most of all, they could be the worst perverts the world has ever seen — at least according to ancient historians like Suetonius, Pliny, and Cassius Dio. Here are nearly a dozen of the most immoral, disgusting behaviors the rulers of the ancient world indulged in.

1) Niece-Marrying

The Emperor Claudius married his brother's daughter Agrippina (his brother being long dead, thank goodness). "[H]is affections were ensnared by the wiles of Agrippina, daughter of his brother Germanicus, aided by the right of exchanging kisses and the opportunities for endearments offered by their relationship; and at the next meeting of the senate he induced some of the members to propose that he be compelled to marry Agrippina, on the ground that it was for the interest of the State; also that others be allowed to contract similar marriages, which up to that time had been regarded as incestuous." Yes, Claudius didn't just make niece-marrying legal, he made it patriotic!

2) Hiring Anal Sex Experts

No judgments on anal sex here, but putting professional anal sex experts on the imperial payroll is a bit much. "On retiring to Capri [Tiberius] devised a pleasance for his secret orgies: teams of wantons of both sexes, selected as experts in deviant intercourse and dubbed analists, copulated before him in triple unions to excite his flagging passions." In case these pros were somehow not up to the tasks Tiberius put them too, he had a sex library full of illustrated works so he could just point to what he wanted.

3) The Animal Game

Nero was so into being as depraved as possible — he supposedly defiled every single part of his body — that he had to think up some pretty original ways to keep it fresh. "[H]e at last devised a kind of game, in which, covered with the skin of some wild animal, he was let loose from a cage and attacked the private parts of men and women, who were bound to stakes, and when he had sated his mad lust, was dispatched by his freedman Doryphorus."

4) Sex with Sister

Say what you want about Caligula, but he was really, really good at incest. "He lived in habitual incest with all his sisters, and at a large banquet he placed each of them in turn below him, while his wife reclined above." His sister Drusilla was his favorite, having had sex with her when he was but a boy, and when they were grown, he simply took her from her legal husband for more fun. His other sisters, he was somewhat less fond of, and thus he only often prostituted them. So he wasn't just a sister-fucker, but a sister-love-vendor. Fun!

5) Sex Rest Stops

Here's an idea you've probably never had to make those long road trips more enjoyable: Set up stops full of prostitutes along your way! And when you do, thank Nero. "Whenever he drifted down the Tiber to Ostia, or sailed about the Gulf of Baiae, booths were set up at intervals along the banks and shores, fitted out for debauchery, while bartering matrons played the part of inn-keepers and from every hand solicited him to come ashore." Better than vending machines, that's for sure.

6) Sex with Mother

In terms of sexual depravity, Nero even put Caligula to shame by going to the source (so to speak) and having sex with his own mother Agrippina. How did people know? "[S]o they say, whenever he [Nero] rode in a litter with his mother, he had incestuous relations with her, which were betrayed by the stains on his clothing." Later, when Nero was Emperor, people tried to keep him from fucking his mother, mostly because they were afraid that would Agrippina would get too much power from the relationship. It should probably go without saying that eventually Nero tried to murder his mother by putting her on break-apart boat, right?

7) Creating an Imperial Brothel

Caligula was fond of spending money, but not so good at making it. After depleting the coffers at one point, he had the bright idea to turn the palace into an impromptu whorehouse. "To leave no kind of plunder untried, he opened a brothel in his palace, setting apart a number of rooms and furnishing them to suit the grandeur of the place, where matrons and freeborn youths should stand exposed. Then he sent his pages about the fora and basilicas, to invite young men and old to enjoy themselves, lending money on interest to those who came and having clerks openly take down their names, as contributors to Caesar's revenues." Rest assured, those who enjoyed themselves on credit eventually paid up, one way or another.

Part-Time Prostitution

The Emperor Elagabalus, who ruled from 203-222 AD, outdid Caligula in this regard: Elagabagus set up a brothel in the palace… and pimped himself. "Finally, he set aside a room in the palace and there committed his indecencies, always standing nude at the door of the room, as the harlots do, and shaking the curtain which hung from gold rings, while in a soft and melting voice he solicited the passers-by. There were, of course, men who had been specially instructed to play their part. For, as in other matters, so in this business, too, he had numerous agents who sought out those who could best please him by their foulness. He would collect money from his patrons and give himself airs over his gains; he would also dispute with his associates in this shameful occupation, claiming that he had more lovers than they and took in more money." If only all politicians were so... flexible when it came to balancing the budget.

9) Making a Man His Wife

I'm not talking about gay marriage here, at least not really. I'm talking about Nero taking a man and "making him a woman" in the worst way possible: "He castrated the boy Sporus and actually tried to make a woman of him; and he married him with all the usual ceremonies, including a dowry and a bridal veil, took him to his house attended by a great throng, and treated him as his wife." Eunuchs — when having sex with men and women just isn't enough any more.

10) "Tiddlers"

Emperor Tiberius loved to swim, and he apparently also loved being pleasured by children. In a feat of inspiration, he managed to combine both these hobbies into one: "he trained little boys (whom he termed tiddlers) to crawl between his thighs when he went swimming and tease him with their licks and nibbles." It's like the world's most perverted aquarium!

11) Sex with Baby

I'm sorry, did you think Tiberius' "Tiddlers" were bad? He also used to get blowjobs from babies. "Unweaned babies he would put to his organ as though to the breast, being by both nature and age rather fond of this form of satisfaction." AAAUUGH.
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The Romans have been described, by many European historians themselves, as being a very sexually perverted and depraved society. According to many historians, the Romans commonly practiced mass orgies, sodomy, homosexuality, man - boy pedophilia relationships, incest, beastiality etc... These are the people that wrote the Bible in 325 A.D. The Bible then received a major revision in 1611 in Oxford, England under King James of England — whom was a homosexual that fell in love with his male cousin and then eventually murdered him after their breakup.

Furthermore, throughout world history Europeans have demonstrated an entrenched predisposition for brutal racism that is matched only by their proclivity for deceit, greed and hunger for power. They alone are the most arrogant and the race most predisposed to racism. Their history is consumed by unrivaled racism; all other races have been their enemies or their victims. Their subjugation, murder and exploitation of all other races are unparalleled. The caucasians have in fact often demonstrated an almost total disregard for the human lives of nonwhites. Against people of colors the caucasian's have committed crimes against humanity --including slavery and genocide. While labeling all other races as being savages the caucasian's have in fact been the most brutally savage throughout history. Given that Europeans— that have proven themselves as being history’s most brutally savage and sinfully immoral people throughout history— are the writers of the Bible, this inherently totally disqualifies it from being the word of a infallible God.

Modern Christianity is not the belief system practiced in Africa before 325 AD. The Roman Emperor Constantine tore apart the doctrine of the original African spiritual system to create modern Christianity. They Romans even destroyed 18 books of the original doctrine to do so. The original spiritual system was not at all like modern Christianity. It's original doctrine didn't believe in the trinity nor of the messiah story. The original African spiritual system taught the teachings of a African man that was born in a cave in Ethiopia of a traditional birth - not a messiah born of an immaculate conception. It was also during the Nicene Conference that his story was changed into a Messiah and his original birthplace, of being born in a cave in Ethiopia, was changed to Bethlehem. They merged his story with Egyptian folklores to create the Jesus messiah myth.

The Roman's creating of Jesus messiah myth was actually an ingenious scam. Its ideology, that to enter the kingdom of heaven you had go through Jesus, gave the church immense power. Because it meant that anyone that wanted to go to heaven had to do so through the church -- given that the church controls the Jesus image and narratives. It literally meant that they held and control the key to heaven. That's ultimate power on earth. Therefore, we Black people are not suffering from a Biblical curse that must be fulfilled before the messiah can return. Our plight and condition - as Black people- has nothing to do with a Biblical fairytale written by the most immoral people we’ve ever encountered. This is the reason why clinging to our Bibles have failed us miserably in regards to our liberation. This is because it’s a falsehood.

This is why:
Jesus didn’t intervene when African people were enslaved and stolen from Africa.

Jesus didn’t intervene when babies were being cut from the wombs of enslaved pregnant African mothers as they screamed in agony.

Jesus didn’t intervene when African women were brutally raped and sodomized by evil white men.

Jesus didn’t intervene when enslaved African men were castrated like animals and lynched as they screamed out for Jesus with their last dying breaths.

Jesus didn’t intervene when white men and women were practicing immoral pedophile acts on enslaved crying African children.

Jesus never existed. That myth has been used as a tool for centuries to keeps us complacently waiting for nothing. Praying to God through a subordinate ( middle man) messiah was not within the original doctrine. Ask yourselves, why does the all knowing God need a middle man to speak to him in your behalf? Doesn't he know you better than anyone else does? The African spiritual system taught every individual to seek their own direct inner connection to the Most High. [Not through religion] A personal oneness that is established between the inner mind and that which we now know as God. It is an experience that no two individuals may verbalize the same. Some may say that it speaks from above, some may say it comes from within. Some may also say that it comes through the mind, while others says through the heart. It doesn't matter because in our true belief system they are all correct. It is their own individual oneness with the Most High!

THE REASON EUROPEANS CONVERTED AFRICANS INTO CHRISTIANS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH SAVING THE SOULS OF AFRICANS.

The early white Christian enslavers and colonizers did not convert Africans into Christians to save their souls--so that Africans may join them in heaven in the afterlife. This is an irrefutable fact, because they literally believed that Africans had no souls and that heaven was for whites only. In fact the early white Christians believed that the thought of an African entering the kingdom of heaven was ridiculously as blasphemous as a dog entering heaven. This is a fact! When we logically look at the fact as they were, we can say with great certainty that the white enslavers conversion of Africans into Christians had absolutely nothing to do with saving African souls. There was another self serving reason why they put their time, and energy into teaching Christianity to a people they otherwise treated so brutally. The true self serving reason was to indoctrinate the belief of a white God into their subconscious minds. This created a profound admiration towards whiteness within the minds of the African that then subconsciously transfers towards white people. This made the Africans more compliant with white dominance over their lives. It made them into better slaves.

Many Black people are afraid to think for themselves, they're scared to look at facts so they never have to admit to themselves that they might be wrong. Many see what they want see, and believe what they want to believe, and fight vigorously to defend those beliefs no matter how ridiculously absurd they may be. We must gain a clear, concise, and most importantly a factual understanding of our plight and condition in order to liberate ourselves. The truth of our condition and plight is that Black people are targets of the unknowing targets of the most elaborate deployed demoralizing divide and psychological warfare campaign in history.

THE TRUTH ABOUT OUR PLIGHT AND CONDITION:

Unlike at the conclusion of World War ll, when the nearly 12 year Jewish Holocaust came to an end and the United States and the United Nation contributed massive financial support to rebuild the lives of the European Khazar Jews there was no moral obligation to do the same for African people. Although the African Holocaust lasted hundreds of years longer, resulted in millions of more deaths, America, Great Britain and the many other white nations that participated in the Black Holocaust felt no moral obligation to invest millions of dollars to restore the culture and lives of African people. Fearing eventual Black retribution — especially given the fact that their exploitation of Africa continues indefinitely — they instead invested millions into the social engineering of Black minds to think in ways that serves and protects the interests of white societies.

The true reason why many Black people are now self hating, perceives themselves as being their own worst was enemies, and thinks favorably of Caucasians - in spite of a brutal history to the contrary, is because a value system benefiting the system of white supremacy is being shrewdly engrained into the minds of Black people without most even realizing it. There are three ways to effectively manipulate the human mind: by what we’re taught, what we see, and by what we hear. Because white people controls the education we’re taught, the media images we see, and the societal narratives that we hear, these factors allows them to shape our minds to think in ways that serves and protects the interests of white societies. Generation after generation of Black people have been - and continues to be - socially engineered to think in ways that protects and serves the interests of white societies. It’s how white societies protects themselves from unified Black retribution.

THIS CONDITIONING OF BLACK PEOPLE BEGINS DURING OUR EARLY EDUCATIONAL DEVELOPMENT WHEN OUR MINDS ARE YOUNG AND MOST IMPRESSIONABLE.

White governed schools do not provide a racially affirming curriculum to Black students- as it does so for white students. They instead intentionally give Black students a marginalized version of their history. It's a marginalized version designed to instill the the myth of white superiority into your subconscious minds. It is a classroom setting wherein which the majority of the achievements and contributions made by Black people, throughout history, are systematically withheld from their educational development. Black students are taught from curriculums that primarily exalts the history and achievements of whites only, while marginalizes their own. For many Black people their schools are, in fact, the places where they first experienced the implications that there is something lesser about being Black.

This Black racially devaluing educational curriculum is being pumped into the impressionable young minds of generations of Black students --without being counterbalance by an equal amount of positive Black racially affirming information. Consequently, Black students must constantly resist the negative perceptions of being Black implicit in an educational curriculum almost exclusively dedicated to white ideologies, achievements, contributions and history. Furthermore, Black students are subjected to this demoralizing miseducation for seven hours a day from the age of five through eighteen. Clearly, considerable damage can be done to the self esteem of many Black students within such a large time frame.

The white educational system’s failure to adequately provide Black students with a racially affirming curriculum as its does for White students is also essential for maintaining white dominance. Because for a ruling class to maintain its position of social dominance over its oppressed population, they must condition the oppressed from a very early age to accept their own subordinate status and to adhere to the authority of the dominant society. To do so, the education given to the oppressed, from the time that their mind's are young and most impressionable, must be the type that denies them a racially and culturally affirming curriculum. When the suppressed minority population is denied a fully racially and culturally affirming education, even the brightest among them may have little, if any, hope of mentally extracting themselves from their assigned low, dominated position in life. This immoral practice is precisely what's being done to Black students.

During the educational development of Black students, they are literally being subconsciously conditioned to believe lesser of themselves and more favorably of whites. Black students are actually being socially engineered, during their educational developmental period, to adhere to white dominance over their lives. While white students are being miseducated to believe that they're inherently superior and are therefore suppose to rule over Black people.
White social engineering scientist describes this immoral practice as merely instilling a value system into the collective mind's of the oppressed that adheres to the infrastructure of the dominant society. Schools are tools of the government design to mold students’ character accordingly. Although white governments professes equality for all of their citizens, in reality they are unrelentingly committed towards the preservation of their nation's white dominance. This unrelenting commitment necessitates that Black students be socially engineered during their educational development to accept their subordinate status within a white dominant society.

THE MINDS OF BLACK PEOPLE ARE ALSO BEING PROGRAMMED TO THINK IN WAYS THAT SERVES WHITE SOCIETIES THROUGH MEDIA SUBLIMINAL PROGRAMMING:

The white media's unrelenting negative depictions of Black people-- that amplifies the negative to the point that it distort reality-- is much more than just bias media reporting. It is actually a covert insidious Divide and Conquer psychological warfare tactic.

Divide and Conquer is the method of maintaining control over one's subordinates or subjects by encouraging dissent between them. It is a well proven tactic that has been used for centuries by oppressors to control their oppressed population. Because when the oppressed are divided this makes them much easier to control and more compliant with their oppressor’s dominance over their lives.

This system is deplored like a massive media marketing campaign that constantly subjects Black people to seeing only the fraudulent worst within themselves. Within this system fraudulent black racially demoralizing propaganda is pumped unrelentingly into the unsuspecting minds of Black populations--without being challenged or counterbalanced by an equal amount Black positive racially affirming information. Its weapon is the message that it carries. It conveys the subliminal message that Black people are there own worst enemy and therefore needs whites to govern over their lives. Moreover, that Black people should admire, respect, and trust only Whites. This system is extremely effective because when Black people are repetitively presented these noted narratives from trusted white media sources it can be very difficult to resist it's implied programming. Especially when the propaganda is being told daily and so unrelentingly.

With time, being unable to refute the constant negative information about themselves, many Black people eventually comes to accept them. They unconsciously influences how many within the Black population perceives themselves, creating division and self hatred among themselves. It also turns the collective aggressions of Black people away from the white society and turns them inward towards themselves. This warfare tactic is designed to make Black people more compliant with white dominance over our lives; however it works so well that it not only makes Black people more compliant with white dominance over their lives, it in fact makes many even prefer it. This system is at the root of the self hatred now affecting many Black people and false feelings of superiority held by many whites.

“The oppressed will always believe the (fraudulent) worse about themselves.”
— Franz Fanon

The Black Matrix by Franklin Jones.
www.theblackpeoplematrix.com

Even Jesus didn't intervene when He Himself was dying on the cross.

Look for another topic,
If u don't understand Christianity

Because despite how crule that era was, it served as the portal that opened the gateway of civilization, education and Christianity in Africa.

Thousands of lives were lost during that era, but hundreds of millions have received salvation and have been saved as a result of it.

Also a lot of crude African cultures and traditions were abolished. One of which was the killing of twins.

As crule as that era may have been I strongly believe that it happened according to God's plan. Remember the biblical children of Israel lived in Egypt for 430years as slaves before God sent Moses to liberate them.

People will not seize to amaze someone on nairaland. The type of topics raised. So Jesus will come and live life for people. You can even ask him to come and make choices for you. No single respect for God. You people turn God to your magician.

What happened to the teachings of love. The greatest commandment God has given to man. Love your neighbor as yourself. It doesn't stop the wickedness of man.

God has given us freewill to choose between good and bad. That is why there is something called reward for deeds. The black slavery you talk about, was it not man that sold our brothers as slaves, did Jesus come from heaven to make the transaction?

He has given us guiding principles, it is meant for us to follow them. The slavery you are even talking about, I remember then that Africa did not even know about God or Christianity. I'm sure everything, whether good or bad, turns out for the best.

I think @op, you should focus on making the right choices in your life instead of questioning God. There are a lot of valuable things you can achieve than blaming God. Choose the right choices, God will not come to earth to live for you.

"Think critically!!! " then goes on to tell us that the Romans wrote the Bible and created Christianity in 325 A.D.

Dear op Christianity was in Ethiopia/Eritrea (they were a single country before they split) way before 341 AD.

1) The Ethiopian eunuch Phillip preached to would have spread the good news there.

2) Apostle Matthew laboured diligently there before he was killed.

Egypt as well was in touch with the earliest version of the gospel. The likes of Mark ended up paying the supreme price for the gospel there. Even Simon Zelotes preached there.

Jude also preached at Libya.


Please do some research on this. Thanks.

Many religious operations have been undertaken by very intelligent beings over the past 500 years for the purposes of manipulation and control of human belief systems, and to get us to compromise our free will to a 'savior-like image'. Under these false pretenses, these beings would be absolved from creating karma for themselves. Instead, they let us create the karma ourselves. It's such a set-up, it really is.
The same person or group manipulating both hu

The power of belief systems can be used as fuel for the game of seducing people into believing that certain things are 'true'. By the power created by these conscious thoughts, we can literally make these things occur and come true, whether they benefit us or not. These are real spiritual dynamics at work, here, and they are being used against us.

By the way, who was behind the abolishment of slave trade, an Antichrist?

Just asking!

Everything written up there are outrightly disgusting...but don't drag Jesus Christ into it. He came to save them but they didn't want to be saved, what did you want him to do?

God created the Spirit of Freewill and Choice in everybody so no one will accuse him of being a dictator in the future.

My question is, if the Romans did all these things esp gay acts, then why do they exist in Africa too??

These are the people that wrote the Bible in 325 A.D.

Problem is, once ignorant statements like these are made, everything else you say just loses credibility.

https://www.history.com/topics/religion/bible

He has waited to deliver The South from Fulanisation by The Anti Christ and the Cabal.

Martin Meredith states, "In the decade between 1791 and 1800, British ships made about 1,340 voyages across the Atlantic, landing nearly 400,000 slaves. Between 1801 and 1807, they took a further 266,000. The slave trade remained one of Britain's most profitable businesses."[3]

The Committee for the Abolition of the Slave Trade was formed in 1787 by a group of Evangelical English Protestants allied with Quakers, to unite in their shared opposition to slavery and the slave trade. The Quakers had long viewed slavery as immoral, a blight upon humanity. By 1807 the abolitionist groups had a very sizable faction of like-minded members in the British Parliament. At their height they controlled 35–40 seats. Known as the "Saints", the alliance was led by the best known of the anti-slave trade campaigners, William Wilberforce, who had taken on the cause of abolition in 1787 after having read the evidence that Thomas Clarkson had amassed against the trade.[4] These dedicated Parliamentarians had access to the legal draughtsmanship of James Stephen, Wilberforce's brother-in-law. They often saw their personal battle against slavery as a divinely ordained crusade. On Sunday, 28 October 1787, Wilberforce wrote in his diary: "God Almighty has set before me two great objects, the suppression of the slave trade and the reformation of manners."[5]

Their numbers were magnified by the precarious position of the government under Lord Grenville, whose short term as Prime Minister was known as the Ministry of All the Talents. Grenville himself led the fight to pass the bill in the House of Lords, while in the Commons the Bill was led by the Foreign Secretary, Lord Howick (Charles Grey, later Earl Grey).[1] Other events also played a part; the Acts of Union 1800 brought 100 Irish MPs into Parliament, most of whom supported abolition.[6] The Bill was first introduced to Parliament in January 1807. It went to the House of Commons on 10 February 1807. On 23 February 1807, twenty years after he first began his crusade, Wilberforce and his team were rewarded with victory. After a debate lasting ten hours, the House agreed to the second reading of the bill to abolish the Atlantic slave trade by an overwhelming 283 votes for to 16.[4] The Bill received Royal Assent on 25 March 1807.[7]

However, while this Act abolished the slave trade in the British Empire, slavery itself continued for another generation. It was not until the passage of the Slavery Abolition Act 1833 that slavery itself was eventually abolished.

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_Trade_Act_1807

William Wilberforce (24 August 1759 – 29 July 1833)[1] was a British politician, philanthropist, and a leader of the movement to abolish the slave trade. A native of Kingston upon Hull, Yorkshire, he began his political career in 1780, eventually becoming an independent Member of Parliament (MP) for Yorkshire (1784–1812). In 1785, he became an Evangelical Christian, which resulted in major changes to his lifestyle and a lifelong concern for reform.

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Wilberforce

So Jesus, as a matter of fact, did intervene in slave trade, for it took for someone to be converted by Him for slave trade to end.

ayo84:
The Romans have been described, by many European historians themselves, as being a very sexually perverted and depraved society. According to many historians, the Romans commonly practiced mass orgies, sodomy, homosexuality, man - boy pedophilia relationships, incest, beastiality etc... These are the people that wrote the Bible in 325 A.D.

If that is the case, then why in the world did they have the Bible include prohibitions on those things?

This is to say nothing of the rather obvious fact that the Bible was written well before 325 AD, given that we have manuscripts of it that predate 325 AD.

Yet another problem with your argument--it's impressive how many errors you've made with this, actually--is that you post about the various depraved things Roman Emperors did... but all of the emperors you list were from the first century AD. What relevance does this have to the fourth century, which is when you allege the Bible was written? Indeed, by that point the Romans were moving away from the things you describe in large part because of the increasing influence of Christianity.

This claim is so silly that the rest can just be dismissed out of hand.