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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timbuktuo: 8:23am On Oct 10, 2019
wirinet:


Although the site is not opening, from what I can gleam from the screenshot you posted, the report was just what we call junk journalism.

It's says;
"A secret report, suppressed by US defence chiefs and obtained by the Observer (mind you this paper is The Guardian ), warns ....."

Now read this slowly and tell me if it says anything that makes sense. A secret report that was suppressed by defence chiefs, but was able to be obtained by the Observer. How do you verify such stories?

Is that not why Trump calls them fake news? This same Guardian is, as of today, still pushing the climate change hoax, calling everyone who doesn’t buy into their alarmism an enemy of the planet and the future.

And why won’t they claim secret sources? That is their MO so that they can be free to publish nonsense and even blatant falsehoods under the guise of protecting their sources. If they don’t say secret source, dem go say “sources familiar with the situation”, or “sources familiar with their thinking”. What a load of crock.

The MSM aid blatant fake news and I pity anyone who still takes them seriously.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timbuktuo: 8:24am On Oct 10, 2019
coluka:

Lol, you should see this one from from 30 years ago grin,
climate racketeers!!

Dia fada. grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 8:25am On Oct 10, 2019
Kophschmerzen:


Breitbart is junk media you loonie. They are censured in Germany and Holland after reporting an Islamic terror attack that never happened.
That doesn't make them worse than the left wing liberal media since the liberal media has also been caught reporting fake news that never happened on multiple occasions. Just last week we had the news of a 12 year old black girl in Virginia that was supposedly attacked by her white school mates reported all over the media only for us to find out the attack never happened. I am sure you heard of that.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timbuktuo: 8:26am On Oct 10, 2019
stanech:


There is no climate pattern that is occurring right now that hasn't happened in the past. But these alarmist will use it to scare the loonies. Like if there's too much rain it is climate change. No rain at all its climate change. Record cold climate change. Reford heat climate change. They don't even know what they are doing ..

But they actually do know what they are doing. They are creating an industry by scaring low IQ individuals who lack the capacity for critical thinking. No be last week dem go find one mentally ill girl from Sweden make she dey talk nonsense up and down? Dem sabi Wetin dem dey do

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 8:31am On Oct 10, 2019
garetz:

It's obvious the modern day climate alarmists are scams, they are just using it to achieve political ends. How do you explain people spending 7 hours on CNN talking about how plastic straws, burgers, beef, cars and flying in planes is causing climate change and the next day they are all seen using plastic straws at a fair, they are pictured eating burgers all over the place, they all participate in a steak fry in iowa where they ate beef with relish and they still drive and fly all over the country in carbon emitting vehicles. No explanation for that except that even they themselves don't believe in the hoax they are selling to the public.

Leave your hatred for Democrats and leftists for a second and use your brains to think of the logic.

Plastic items take centuries to degrade. Meanwhile, most plastic products are used only once by almost every single individual on earth, from straws to plastic water bottles, shopping bags, spoons, diapers, food wrappers, phones cases, and every other household items. Now, these one use plastics get dump most of the time in Rivers, which eventually ends up in the oceans. Some are dumped in landfills, but landfills quickly get filled up.

Imagine, what will happen eventually after a few decades of such everyday dumping of plastics into the oceans. It is estimated that by 2050, there will be more plastic than fish in our oceans, if something is not done to stop plastics getting into the oceans.

Now, does that sound logical or sound like CNN, leftist and democrats propaganda

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timbuktuo: 8:33am On Oct 10, 2019
Trapping:



Bro can you enlighten me on why you think Obama hypocritically wants to sell the climate change scam to the world. Are we being lied to about climate change?

Personally, I don't believe in this climate change story, not because I'm expert or I understand what it means, but simply because I see it as globalist agenda.

I don’t exactly know how, but these fûckers are making money from the climate change agenda. One of the ways I guess us trough government funding for “research purposes”. Do you know how much governments dole out for researching how to reverse climate change? We’re talking billions of dollars here.

Now, they keep saying we should switch from fossil energy but do you know that these fûckers who fly around in private jets contribution more CO2 to the environment on one trip than you ever would in your whole lifetime driving a car? grin. So, you are lecturing me about changing my relatively benign behavior while you are contributing magnitudes more to “damage” the climate in a week than I will in 50 years? Come on.

I can bet that Obama has had, at least, three private jet trips in the last six weeks that more than covers whatever you will individually contribute in terms of CO2 pollution from now till the day you die. This same Mr. Obama bought a house right by the sea grin, but he is telling us that the world will be underwater in 12 years. If that is true, why does he not hit a house as far from the sea as possible? grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 8:38am On Oct 10, 2019
happney65:


Okay..I hope am wrong sha..I really do
I hope so too
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 8:44am On Oct 10, 2019
wirinet:


Leave your hatred for Democrats and leftists for a second and use your brains to think of the logic.

Plastic items take centuries to degrade. Meanwhile, most plastic products are used only once by almost every single individual on earth, from straws to plastic water bottles, shopping bags, spoons, diapers, food wrappers, phones cases, and every other household items. Now, these one use plastics get dump most of the time in Rivers, which eventually ends up in the oceans. Some are dumped in landfills, but landfills quickly get filled up.

Imagine, what will happen eventually after a few decades of such everyday dumping of plastics into the oceans. It is estimated that by 2050, there will be more plastic than fish in our oceans, if something is not done to stop plastics getting into the oceans.

Now, does that sound logical or sound like CNN, leftist and democrats propaganda
Does it sound logical to you that the same people preaching this climate change gospel to me don't believe in what they are preaching and are doing the same things they say I shouldn't be doing if I don't want the world to be destroyed?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timbuktuo: 8:49am On Oct 10, 2019
garetz:

Does it sound logical to you that the same people preaching this climate change gospel to me don't believe in what they are preaching and are doing the same things they say I shouldn't be doing if I don't want the world to be destroyed?

Rules for thee, but not for me. Aka, hypocrisy grin. The other day, AOC was shouting for the world to stop eating beef because cow farts were causing too much methane. grin. Awon leftists yii ti ni mental problem

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 8:52am On Oct 10, 2019
Timbuktuo:
So this is an article from the Guardian from 15 years ago talking about how Britain would be submerged underwater by next year. grin. These are the kinds of things that the Obamas have sold to the people like GalacticHorde while buying multi million dollar mansions by the seaside. grin

In the article, the warning said before next year; now, these “experts” are saying twelve years from now. Believe these climate racketeers at your own peril.

Link: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2004/feb/22/usnews.theobserver

Edit: I fixed the linked for everyone who wants to visit the original article themselves
I bet this makes you feel smart huh? What is shrinking the polar ice caps?
What is making sea levels rise?
Why have the 5 hottest years on record ever been in the last decade?
https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
Unlike your secret source, my counter source is NASA, and your dumb argument about climate change being a norm is already explained by the variation in the earth's orbit around the sun over time but not on the scale of the last 50years and by extension at least the last 200years!
So I know I am sounding like a broken record by repeating myself but it can't be avoided, if you voted for trump on the basis of his lie that climate change is a hoax amongst other things, then you have been very stupid wink now cry to the mod and get me banned again

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 8:53am On Oct 10, 2019
Timbuktuo:


I don’t exactly know how, but these fûckers are making money from the climate change agenda. One of the ways I guess us trough government funding for “research purposes”. Do you know how much governments dole out for researching how to reverse climate change? We’re talking billions of dollars here.

Now, they keep saying we should switch from fossil energy but do you know that these fûckers who fly around in private jets contribution more CO2 to the environment on one trip than you ever would in your whole lifetime driving a car? grin. So, you are lecturing me about changing my relatively benign behavior while you are contributing magnitudes more to “damage” the climate in a week than I will in 50 years? Come on.

I can bet that Obama has had, at least, three private jet trips in the last six weeks that more than covers whatever you will individually contribute in terms of CO2 pollution from now till the day you die. This same Mr. Obama bought a house right by the sea grin, but he is telling us that the world will be underwater in 12 years. If that is true, why does he not hit a house as far from the sea as possible? grin
These people don't make any sense at all. They were supposed to hold a climate change debate on CNN and they all flew in with jets to come to the debate and they spent the entire debate complaining about carbon emissions only to hop into jets after the debate and fly back to their destinations emitting carbon all the way. It doesn't just add up.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 8:55am On Oct 10, 2019
stanech:


She should take a vote if the house approves then she can begin her charade. Why won't she just take the vote.
how ignorant can you be? It has been proved to you in no uncertain terms that she doesn't need to take a vote to begin yet you are still insisting on peddling that jingle! undecided
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 8:56am On Oct 10, 2019
stanech:


A lot of scientist have disproved most of this climate change nonsense but they are being silenced.
please name the so called scientists so we can shame them undecided you would recall that the fossil fuel industry has their own academics on payroll too
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 8:58am On Oct 10, 2019
stanech:


It is in common sense. It is the house that needs impeaches a president not the speaker of the house. And the only way the house takes decision is to vote on it. Trumps argument is that the speaker is not acting on behalf of the house. She has gone rogue. Even some in the left is calling her to take the vote

common sense that is so common it is not in the house rules? undecided you need uncommon deliverance my brother cheesy
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 8:59am On Oct 10, 2019
wirinet:

You want more shock? Now read this;

Trump made this comment a few hours ago referencing a tweet written by Luis Verlarde;


I am surprised he did not mention the kurds helping them win the civil war.

And he boasts " in my great and unmatched wisdom"

Abeg my brother read the comments on the tweet, I have been laughing so loud, my wife thinks I have gone crazy.
wait! Is this real? shocked lemme go surf some media outlets first
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 9:01am On Oct 10, 2019
MrPrsdent:
Impeachment under the US constitution is a 3-step process.

First, the Congress investigates ( this is the stage we are right now with Trump). Investigation can begin at the House Judiciary committee or any other committee, depending on the issue(s) at stake.

Second,the HOR must pass by a simple majority the articles of impeachment. When this happens,the President is considered impeached.

Third, the US senate tries the accused. If he's convicted he's then removed from office. Conviction requires a two-thirds super majority of senators ( a very high bar) . This third phase has yet to happen in the history of this country
hear! Hear! Stanech
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 9:03am On Oct 10, 2019
obixcel:
Elizabeth Warren caught in another LIE about her long time ago Pregnancy and Teaching career. She claimed her job was given to someone else because she was 'visibly' pregnant. grin grin Her whole lie fits one pattern - And that is VICTIMHOOD
are you done? She is frontrunner now so I guess she's about to own an estate in your head cheesy grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 9:13am On Oct 10, 2019
wirinet:


Although the site is not opening, from what I can gleam from the screenshot you posted, the report was just what we call junk journalism.

It's says;
"A secret report, suppressed by US defence chiefs and obtained by the Observer (mind you this paper is The Guardian ), warns ....."

Now read this slowly and tell me if it says anything that makes sense. A secret report that was suppressed by defence chiefs, but was able to be obtained by the Observer. How do you verify such stories?
do not ask them sensible questions please, stupidity is as stupidity believes and also is as stupidity does, I replied him with this https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
Not a vague nameless source, nobody argued that climate change determined by the elliptical distance of the earth from the sun hasn't been happening over history which is the part they have been holding on to but the rate of climate change since the industrial revolution and accumulation of greenhouse gases in our atmosphere and biosphere is unprecedented in all of earths history and that is the point the stupid trumpetskins are trying too hard to shout down and now they have a champion with great wisdom (sic) trump grin this would be hilarious if it were not serious

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Kophschmerzen: 9:32am On Oct 10, 2019
garetz:

That doesn't make them worse than the left wing liberal media since the liberal media has also been caught reporting fake news that never happened on multiple occasions. Just last week we had the news of a 12 year old black girl in Virginia that was supposedly attacked by her white school mates reported all over the media only for us to find out the attack never happened. I am sure you heard of that.


Crapzoid!!! The girl made up the lie not the media. Anyone shilling for Trump or any of the right wing numbnut is either a dumbass or a reetard born head first slammed on a pavement.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 11:01am On Oct 10, 2019
Judge to DOJ lawyer Elizabeth Shapiro, based on precedent of the ruling of judge John sirica in the 1974 nixon Watergate investigation, the house is allowed to request for and get the unredacted copy of the Mueller report without filing an official impeachment inquiry first and when the lawyer was asked if precedent shouldn't be followed, she replied that if that case was tried today, the result would be different to which the judge responded "wow, OK, as i said, the department is taking some extraordinary positions on this one!"
There you have it folks, today's repungnatcan party wouldn't have allowed Nixon be impeached over Watergate.
When asked how formal the inquiry needs to be, where do you draw the line the DOJ's Elizabeth Shapiro says they're not drawing any lines so please what kind of stupidity passes for brains in Trump's administration?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 11:41am On Oct 10, 2019
MrPrsdent:
Impeachment under the US constitution is a 3-step process.

First, the Congress investigates ( this is the stage we are right now with Trump). Investigation can begin at the House Judiciary committee or any other committee, depending on the issue(s) at stake.

Second,the HOR must pass by a simple majority the articles of impeachment. When this happens,the President is considered impeached.

Third, the US senate tries the accused. If he's convicted he's then removed from office. Conviction requires a two-thirds super majority of senators ( a very high bar) . This third phase has yet to happen in the history of this country

...very apt and on point...just the way the process suppose to work...the republicans in senate will not vote to remove treasontrump...

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 11:43am On Oct 10, 2019
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-latest-poll-fox-news-ukraine-call-democrats-joe-biden-a9149911.html

A Fox News poll has found that a majority of US voters want Donald Trump to be impeached. The White House said on Wednesday it would refuse to co-operate with the inquiry being led by House Democrats into whether the president should be removed from office – with lawyers rejecting the move as “baseless” and “constitutionally invalid”. However public support continues to swing against Mr Trump – with the latest poll carried out for his preferred media network, Fox News, finding a majority believe he should no longer sit in the Oval Office.

In a survey of 1,003 voters across the US, 51 per cent said they thought he should be impeached, a rise on the previous month’s 42 per cent. Only 43 per cent of respondents said the House of Representatives should not vote for his removal – with the most prominent reason given for opposing the action being that the president “did nothing wrong”.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment

Conducted October 6-8, 2019 under the joint direction of Beacon Research (D) and Shaw & Company (R), this Fox News Poll includes interviews with 1,003 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide who spoke with live interviewers on both landlines and cellphones. The poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points for all registered voters.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Kophschmerzen: 11:44am On Oct 10, 2019
happney65:


Am not sure he does not smoke something..Am not sure..Na his supporters with leaking brains I pity..How can someone be that foolish..Hunnn

Trump is always stoned on Adderall.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:26pm On Oct 10, 2019
obixcel:
Elizabeth Warren caught in another LIE about her long time ago Pregnancy and Teaching career. She claimed her job was given to someone else because she was 'visibly' pregnant. grin grin Her whole lie fits one pattern - And that is VICTIMHOOD

happney05 I hope this will be your nominee

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 3:44pm On Oct 10, 2019
stanech:
As per the Constitution, the House, not the speaker, has sole power of impeachment.
Trump is on solid legal ground, here.

Trump and Cipollone’s Made-Up Defense of Stonewalling Is a Fraud

Donald Trump’s sweeping attempt to prevent witnesses from testifying before the House committees conducting impeachment inquiries is an act of lawlessness. Full stop.

In theory, there’s nothing wrong about a president pushing back against congressional encroachments into legitimately perceived executive authority.

But there’s a difference between protecting executive turf and stonewalling.

And Trump has crossed that line, by a mile.

Trump’s supposed justification for ordering his entire administration to resist all congressional attempts to obtain their testimony and documents is contained in a letter from White House Counsel Pat Cipollone to Congress. Cipollone’s position is clear and unqualified: “President Trump and his Administration cannot participate” in the congressional impeachment inquiries.

Read “cannot participate” to mean that the entire Trump administration is being ordered by the president to refuse to testify or provide documents to Congress.

Cipollone’s 8-page letter is more political screed than legal brief. Much of it makes purely political arguments that Trump hasn’t done anything wrong, that he doesn’t deserve to be impeached, and that the inquiry is driven by political motives. That’s fine, so far as it goes. Cipollone is entitled to his political opinions. But this isn’t about political opinions. It’s about the law. His legal argument, such as it is, has two prongs:

(1) The inquiry is “constitutionally invalid” because the full House hasn’t voted to authorize it; and

(2) The inquiry violates Trump’s due process rights to cross-examine witnesses, call witnesses, and present evidence.

Let’s take these one at a time:

This “constitutional-validity” argument is simply made up.

There is nothing whatsoever in the U.S. Constitution requiring the full House to vote on an impeachment inquiry (as opposed to passing articles of impeachment), and Cipollone doesn’t cite a single provision of the Constitution—or even a single statute, or court decision, or even a dodgy law-review article in support of his proposition.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:03pm On Oct 10, 2019
wirinet:


Leave your hatred for Democrats and leftists for a second and use your brains to think of the logic.

Plastic items take centuries to degrade. Meanwhile, most plastic products are used only once by almost every single individual on earth, from straws to plastic water bottles, shopping bags, spoons, diapers, food wrappers, phones cases, and every other household items. Now, these one use plastics get dump most of the time in Rivers, which eventually ends up in the oceans. Some are dumped in landfills, but landfills quickly get filled up.

Imagine, what will happen eventually after a few decades of such everyday dumping of plastics into the oceans. It is estimated that by 2050, there will be more plastic than fish in our oceans, if something is not done to stop plastics getting into the oceans.

Now, does that sound logical or sound like CNN, leftist and democrats propaganda

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 4:11pm On Oct 10, 2019
Two men linked to Trump's lawyer (Rudy Guilliani) arrested on campaign-finance violations

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-trump-whistleblower/two-men-linked-to-trumps-lawyer-arrested-on-campaign-finance-violations-idUKKBN1WP0GA

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/giuliani-associates-indicted-on-campaign-finance-charges

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two Florida businessmen associated with U.S. President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani have been arrested over violations of campaign finance laws, a spokesman for the Manhattan U.S. Attorney’s office said on Thursday.

The businessmen, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, were arrested in connection with a New York case involving campaign finance laws, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Manhattan said.

The two men had been planning to fly to Vienna on Wednesday night, according to a source familiar with the matter.

Parnas and Fruman were expected to appear in a federal court in Virginia later on Thursday, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter.

Parnas and Fruman conspired to “funnel foreign money to candidates for federal and state office,” according to a federal court filing in New York.

John Dowd, the lawyer for the two men, declined comment on the charges.

Parnas is a Ukrainian businessman. Fruman is a real estate investor. Both, according to various media accounts, helped introduce Giuliani into top Ukrainian political circles.

Giuliani told Fox News that he represents Parnas and Fruman on a separate matter and called their arrest and indictment "timing suspect." He stated that he "will reveal relevant facts very very shortly."

Giuliani, an attorney for President Trump, said he finds it "extremely suspicious" that the arrest was made in connection with an FEC matter that has yet to be resolved, and which Giuliani said is a civil matter. Giuliani acknowledged that both men "logistically helped" in his collection of evidence against Hunter Biden, and that they helped connect him with former Ukrainian top prosecutors Viktor Shokin and Yuriy Lutsenko.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 4:21pm On Oct 10, 2019
TheShopKeeper:


Trump and Cipollone’s Made-Up Defense of Stonewalling Is a Fraud

Donald Trump’s sweeping attempt to prevent witnesses from testifying before the House committees conducting impeachment inquiries is an act of lawlessness. Full stop.

In theory, there’s nothing wrong about a president pushing back against congressional encroachments into legitimately perceived executive authority.

But there’s a difference between protecting executive turf and stonewalling.

And Trump has crossed that line, by a mile.

Trump’s supposed justification for ordering his entire administration to resist all congressional attempts to obtain their testimony and documents is contained in a letter from White House Counsel Pat Cipollone to Congress. Cipollone’s position is clear and unqualified: “President Trump and his Administration cannot participate” in the congressional impeachment inquiries.

Read “cannot participate” to mean that the entire Trump administration is being ordered by the president to refuse to testify or provide documents to Congress.

Cipollone’s 8-page letter is more political screed than legal brief. Much of it makes purely political arguments that Trump hasn’t done anything wrong, that he doesn’t deserve to be impeached, and that the inquiry is driven by political motives. That’s fine, so far as it goes. Cipollone is entitled to his political opinions. But this isn’t about political opinions. It’s about the law. His legal argument, such as it is, has two prongs:

(1) The inquiry is “constitutionally invalid” because the full House hasn’t voted to authorize it; and

(2) The inquiry violates Trump’s due process rights to cross-examine witnesses, call witnesses, and present evidence.

Let’s take these one at a time:

This “constitutional-validity” argument is simply made up.

There is nothing whatsoever in the U.S. Constitution requiring the full House to vote on an impeachment inquiry (as opposed to passing articles of impeachment), and Cipollone doesn’t cite a single provision of the Constitution—or even a single statute, or court decision, or even a dodgy law-review article in support of his proposition.


Let's see what the court would have to say about this

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 4:30pm On Oct 10, 2019
TheShopKeeper:
Two men linked to Trump's lawyer (Rudy Guilliani) arrested on campaign-finance violations

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-trump-whistleblower/two-men-linked-to-trumps-lawyer-arrested-on-campaign-finance-violations-idUKKBN1WP0GA

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/giuliani-associates-indicted-on-campaign-finance-charges

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two Florida businessmen associated with U.S. President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani have been arrested over violations of campaign finance laws, a spokesman for the Manhattan U.S. Attorney’s office said on Thursday.

The businessmen, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, were arrested in connection with a New York case involving campaign finance laws, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Manhattan said.

The two men had been planning to fly to Vienna on Wednesday night, according to a source familiar with the matter.

Parnas and Fruman were expected to appear in a federal court in Virginia later on Thursday, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter.

Parnas and Fruman conspired to “funnel foreign money to candidates for federal and state office,” according to a federal court filing in New York.

John Dowd, the lawyer for the two men, declined comment on the charges.

Parnas is a Ukrainian businessman. Fruman is a real estate investor. Both, according to various media accounts, helped introduce Giuliani into top Ukrainian political circles.

Giuliani told Fox News that he represents Parnas and Fruman on a separate matter and called their arrest and indictment "timing suspect." He stated that he "will reveal relevant facts very very shortly."

Giuliani, an attorney for President Trump, said he finds it "extremely suspicious" that the arrest was made in connection with an FEC matter that has yet to be resolved, and which Giuliani said is a civil matter. Giuliani acknowledged that both men "logistically helped" in his collection of evidence against Hunter Biden, and that they helped connect him with former Ukrainian top prosecutors Viktor Shokin and Yuriy Lutsenko.

...a close pic of messers parnas and fruman with treasontrump and rudy...

...a mug shot of the investors...

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Anduku: 5:20pm On Oct 10, 2019
Kophschmerzen:


You mooron!! It's not a lie. Right wing losers trying to spin like always.
Oh will you please shut the fück up!!! she's on camera In 2007 admitting she left the job of her own will. You're The one spinning trash here, she flat out lied like she did when she claimed she was an Indian. she was caught red handed and you're here talking nonsense.

Watch at the 7-8 minutes mark;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1Uk-DwUvJw

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