₦airaland Forum

Nothing like Yoruba Ijaw, Ijaw is Ijaw please, the same way kwara is not Fulani Yoruba

nengibo:
Nothing like Yoruba Ijaw, Ijaw is Ijaw

You are right.

Human beings are divided into tribes, ethnic groups etc.

But humanity is one.
Nigerians are one people, one nation.

WORLDPEACE:
Ekiti is a Yoruba state because no other tribes are indigenous to the state apart from Yorubas.

Lagos and Ondo, however, are Yoruba dominated states because they have other ethnic minorities.

Just like Anambra is an Igbo dominated state because they have Igala minorities there.

We need to learn to respect minorities and acknowledge their presence in this country.
It shows we are people who believe in fairness and we would not take away another man's rights just because we are more powerful.

Makes 0 sense

WORLDPEACE:
Ondo state population according to the last census is over five million. Where are you pulling your stats from?

Did you not see 2016

abdulwastecx:
Don't mind that guy, I am from Ondo state an akoko indigene. The question is how can they be the fourth most influential tribe when they are not the most influential tribe in Ondo south senatorial district?

Akoko has the highest number of local government, followed by Ondo town, followed by Akure, then owo.
How can you be 10% of a state where you haven't produce any notable politician throughout its existence.

Ondo is a pure southwestern state any none Yoruba in the state is a settler. I am from Ikare in akoko northeast lga

You lying
The guy says he sees himself as Ijaw, before Yoruba..

Ondo is a Yoruba state settlers can leave

Iamgrey5:
What do you mean by Benin orgin?

Awori doesn't originate from Benin

Lagos Island of Benin origin that have naturalized to Awori lagos

anonimi:
What of the Tapas/Nupes? Are they not the owners/indigenes of Oshodi?

No they are Awori of Nupe origin

aljharem:
Lagos Island of Benin origin that have naturalized to Awori lagos

Alright

People like obanikoro and co

But why do you now call ijebu (remo) Settlers when you know they were the first to settle at ikorudu.

There’s nothing like Yoruba Ijaw. You’re either Ijaw or you’re not

Iamgrey5:
Alright

People like obanikoro and co

But why do you now call ijebu (remo) Settlers when you know they were the first to settle at ikorudu.

They are Not called settlers in Ikorodu. Ikorodu is an Ijebu word but Ibese Island area and co are originally Awori but has been occupied by Ijebu so they called them settlers.

Also from Ikorodu to Palmgroove are ijebu-tedo areas because they migrated and settled in those areas. The British where not allowed to traded with Oyo without the Ijebus who acted as gate keepers.

Also from Ibeju-lekki to VI are also Ijebu -tedo

kotv:
There’s nothing like Yoruba Ijaw. You’re either Ijaw or you’re not

You dey mind them

aljharem:
They are Not called settlers in Ikorodu. Ikorodu is an Ijebu word but Ibese Island area and co are originally Awori but has been occupied by Ijebu so they called them settlers.

Also from Ikorodu to Palmgroove are ijebu-tedo areas because they migrated and settled in those areas. The British where not allowed to traded with Oyo without the Ijebus who acted as gate keepers.

Also from Ibeju-lekki to VI are also Ijebu -tedo

Alright but Aworis are Yoruba.

Do you see yourself as Yoruba or Bini man?

kotv:
There’s nothing like Yoruba Ijaw. You’re either Ijaw or you’re not

So what should Apoi and Arogbo with mix orgin claim?

Iamgrey5:
Alright but Aworis are Yoruba.

Do you see yourself as Yoruba or Bini man?

Aworis are Yorubas. I see myself as a yoruba man so does every awori. from the 50's till now, there has not been any dispute on that !!!

We are very much Yoruba.

nengibo:
Nothing like Yoruba Ijaw, Ijaw is Ijaw please, the same way kwara is not Fulani Yoruba

Thank you, it is only people that want to feel unnecessarily important. Apoi and Arogbo are yorubas but with Ijaw origin.

Ethnic identity is self imposed.
Any one can call himself any tribe.

MelesZenawi:
Is absolutely light. You can't just wake up and say u not yoruba..

You speak, u dress, culturally infact every every u like them...even raybaba as moniker...and you decide to come up with this.

I don't agree or try to enforce Ignorance.


Ondo is a Yoruba state and you are a Yoruba man.

Says who?
Read the history of the various towns and royal families in Ekiti State.

Charleys:
Ekiti does not have any history of Oduduwa, check your records.

That may be true for your family and a section of the apoi Ijaws but not true for the majority of the Apoi Ijaws

raybaba97:
Nah.

we originally lived with the ilajes in the Lagos area, I've forgotten the name of the village.

we eventually traced our way back to our current location after a few decades.

it's why our dialect is closest to ilaje dialects.

The problem with people like you is that your understanding of the Yoruba language is limited to Yoruba Ajumolo- a centralized Yoruba dialect known and understood by all Yoruba people.

This centralized Yoruba dialect is mainly derived from the Oyo dialect with traces from Egba/Awori tongues.

Although Akoko dialect is heavily influenced with Bini language, Yoruba dialects from Ijesha, Ile-Oluji, Ekiti, Owo etc will understand Akoko dialects with ease.

raybaba97:
Have you heard akoko dialects before?

if you have, I want you to tell me if you can understand a lick of what they're saying.

honestly.

[/size]hmm

raybaba97:
Tribal bigots ruined the other thread for us, so I made this one because I wish to educate others on how we Yoruba Ijaws came to be.

mtswwww

Ondo State is unique because we are a lot like the mid-belt region of Nigeria.

---

hmm
There are so many tribes in Ondo state that it is ridiculous, and many believe this is why the ekitis could leave the state so easily.

mtsww

I'm not here to talk of other tribes though, I'm here to talk about the Ijaw Apois and ijaw arogbo.

these two groups are the indigenous ijaw groups of Ondo state.

l myself am from Gbekebo, and I'm an Ijaw apoi by extraction.

From the way my father described it to me, we migrated from one of the ijaw state to the Lagos coastal areas hundreds of years ago.

During the slave trade era however, a lot of us moved to the Ondo coastal areas to escape capture and to farm.

those farms gradually built-up as more family members moved in and we eventually occupied what is today recognized as Apoi land. This is why we speak a dialect of Yoruba with a mix of our original ijaw dialect.

I hear the Ijaw arogbos however migrated directly from bayelsa to start living with us apois once our community was prospering. which is why they still retain their original dialect from bayelsa.

Keep in mind that this is a guess, but I'll say we make about 7-12% of Ondo state's population.

this is a ridiculous percentage when you consider that there are over 15 recognized tribes in Ondo state alone.

We don't control the state because the Ondo, Ilaje, and owo people wield more influence than us. we are however the fourth most influential group in the region.

the only reason Akeredolu even became governor is because his deputy is an ijaw man. By the normal arrangements, the next governor will come either from us, the akure people, or from the Ikales.

the majority of us see ourselves as just another Yoruba tribe because of how long we've stayed there, but recognize our own uniqueness enough to distinguish ourselves.

To the average Ondo ijaw man, we are both Yoruba and Ijaw.

aljharem:
They are Not called settlers in Ikorodu. Ikorodu is an Ijebu word but Ibese Island area and co are originally Awori but has been occupied by Ijebu so they called them settlers.

Also from Ikorodu to Palmgroove are ijebu-tedo areas because they migrated and settled in those areas. The British where not allowed to traded with Oyo without the Ijebus who acted as gate keepers.

Also from Ibeju-lekki to VI are also Ijebu-tedo

Ijebu-Yoruba LGAs in Lagos State are three. Epe, Ikorodu (named centuries ago after the founder "Okoodu Oga" with Oga meaning boss or master) and Ibeju-Lekki are owned originally by Ijebus, with Ijebu trader-settlers living on Lagos Island for over 300 years now. Ijebuland extends from Lagos State to Ogun State just like Aworiland. In addition, Ijebu and Ilaje ancestries make up major bloodlines of Itsekiriland in places such as Ode-Itsekiri and the oil and gas-rich Ugborodo (formally named Escravos after the Escravos River or "slave river" in Portuguese).

Groups in Ondo
*Akokos
* Owo
*Ose
*Akure
*Ondo
*Ikale
*Ilaje
*Ijaw Apoi/Ijaw Arobo

I served in this Ese Odo LG which has Igbekebo as Headquarters.
I was posted to Agadagba Obon which is an Ijaw Apoi with Yoruba/Ijaw as Languages
While my other 2 male Corpers we're posted to Arogbo which is Ijaw Arogbo.....
The guys had to come back to Agadagba Obon because they couldn't understand pure Ijaw dialect speaking on that Island of Arogbo

Charleys:
Ekiti does not have any history of Oduduwa, check your records.

It does , the first Oba of Efon Alaaye was said to be Oduduwa's second son and was the brother of the Oba and founder of Ado Ekiti and Oranmiyan first king of Benin and Oyo. The Ekiti people themselves were mainly of ancient Igbo Stock just as the Owu,(Obasanjo's Clan),Ijebu,Ilaje,Ijesha,Akoko, and most Igbomina.

raybaba97:
Tribal bigots ruined the other thread for us, so I made this one because I wish to educate others on how we Yoruba Ijaws came to be.



Ondo State is unique because we are a lot like the mid-belt region of Nigeria.

There are so many tribes in Ondo state that it is ridiculous, and many believe this is why the ekitis could leave the state so easily.

I'm not here to talk of other tribes though, I'm here to talk about the Ijaw Apois and ijaw arogbo.

these two groups are the indigenous ijaw groups of Ondo state.

l myself am from Gbekebo, and I'm an Ijaw apoi by extraction.

From the way my father described it to me, we migrated from one of the ijaw state to the Lagos coastal areas hundreds of years ago.

During the slave trade era however, a lot of us moved to the Ondo coastal areas to escape capture and to farm.

those farms gradually built-up as more family members moved in and we eventually occupied what is today recognized as Apoi land. This is why we speak a dialect of Yoruba with a mix of our original ijaw dialect.

I hear the Ijaw arogbos however migrated directly from bayelsa to start living with us apois once our community was prospering. which is why they still retain their original dialect from bayelsa.

Keep in mind that this is a guess, but I'll say we make about 7-12% of Ondo state's population.

this is a ridiculous percentage when you consider that there are over 15 recognized tribes in Ondo state alone.

We don't control the state because the Ondo, Ilaje, and owo people wield more influence than us. we are however the fourth most influential group in the region.

the only reason Akeredolu even became governor is because his deputy is an ijaw man. By the normal arrangements, the next governor will come either from us, the akure people, or from the Ikales.

the majority of us see ourselves as just another Yoruba tribe because of how long we've stayed there, but recognize our own uniqueness enough to distinguish ourselves.

To the average Ondo ijaw man, we are both Yoruba and Ijaw.

As usual, your father told you a wrong story. There was nothing such as Ijo state hundreds of years ago. What are known as Ijo today were the European porters from the Akwapim-Togo region.

Christistruth00:
It does , the first Oba of Efon Alaaye was said to be Oduduwa's second son and was the brother of the Oba and founder of Ado Ekiti and Oranmiyan first king of Benin and Oyo. The Ekiti people themselves were mainly of ancient Igbo Stock just as the Owu,(Obasanjo's Clan),Ijebu,Ilaje,Ijesha,Akoko, and most Igbomina.

Fake news from the usual source. According to real books, Oduduwa had only one son and his name was Akanbi.

Dedetwo:
Fake news from the usual source. According to real books, Oduduwa had only one son and his name was Akanbi.

Correct and Akanbi had 7 Children but most of the time Akanbi's 7 Children are described as Oduduwa's own . It is a Cultural thing. a man can claim his Grandchildren as his own because they are his heirs. For example Oranmiyan was described as Oduduwas last born but he was in fact the youngest grandchild of Oduduwa.

It happened in the Bible when Jacob claimed Joseph's 2 sons as his own and they became the half tribes of Manasseh and Ephraim.

Christistruth00:
Correct and Akanbi had 7 Children but most of the time Akanbi's 7 Children are described as Oduduwa's own . It is a Cultural thing. a man can claim his Grandchildren as his own because they are his heirs.

Arrant nonsense!!!

Dedetwo:
Arrant nonsense!!!

a

Go and swallow some ice cubes it will cool you down.

Christistruth00:
a

Go and swallow some ice cubes it will cool you down.

Why such a deadly advise? I guess you are not pure in heart.

Charleys:
I was talking of Oduduwa.

Ajero was one of the descendats of oduduwa.