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OLAADEGBU:
"If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth" (Colossians 3:1-2).

Right on point. Your answer to this question will determine whether your organisation is Christian or not.

Jesus said by this all people (including you OLAADEGBU) will know that "Jehovah's Witnesses" are my disciples (true Christians) if you have LOVE amongst yourselves! John 13:34-35

So is there true LOVE permeating your organization as one big happy family of peace loving worshipers? John 17:20-23

Yes! Everyone knows globally that there is LOVE amongst Jehovah's Witnesses!

If you're truthfully inquisitive to identify God's organization, all you need to do is use the logic Jesus presented.

You can't be smarter than God's only begotten son!

Maximus69:
Yes! Everyone knows globally that there is LOVE amongst Jehovah's Witnesses!

If you're truthfully inquisitive to identify God's organization, all you need to do is use the logic Jesus presented.

You can't be smarter than God's only begotten son!

Answer the question. Where is your affection, heaven or earth?

OLAADEGBU:
Answer the question. Where is your affection, heaven or earth?

Now it's evident that you "OLAADEGBU" are the same "johnw47" in disguise!

But i'll answer you!

God's promise of everlasting life has been from the beginning because "he does not desire that any of his children to die (seize to exist)" 2Peter 3:9
The place he prepared for himself and his spirit sons(angels) is heaven, while the place he prepared for his human sons is earth! Psalms 115:16
It was Jesus that begged his God and Father for all his corulers (who will be selected amongst Christians) to stay where he lives, that's why Jesus had to go back to heaven (his own home) to prepare another place for his 144,000 corulers! John 14:1-4
Jesus made this promise because Jerusalem the city where David's throne was established has been profaned {Matthew 23:37-38} and that's the promised city of God's government before the coming of Christ Jesus! Isaiah 2:3

So God's Kingdom is where my affection is, only God selects where each benefactor of that Kingdom will be
If it's heaven, then that means such a person must become another creature (not physical) before he/she can go there, that's why some Christians must be BORN AGAIN sons of God!
But all other loyalists of that Kingdom will inherit everlasting life here on planet earth as it has been promised FROM THE BEGINNING! Matthew 5:3 compared to 5:5

Not even Jesus himself has the right to select for his father who will be part of those corulers {Matthew 29:20-23} but everlasting life is blown open to everyone provided you exercise faith in Christ's ransom sacrifice! John 3:16

Humble yourself to learn the truth NOT the credulous ideas that all good people are going to heaven! John 8:32

Maximus69:
Now it's evident that you "OLAADEGBU" are the same "johnw47" in disguise!

ha ha ha, amazingly deceived


™paranoid false jw mad max

your paranoia is of course not from God
but it is from your god the devil:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


a number of false jw's over the years have said i'm another user
and it's usually been someone different, so far i'm about seven different persons, laugh

you false jw's of course all have that same lying, false accusing, paranoid, spirit in you
your daddy the devil


the great puffed up military intelligence officer

johnw47:
ha ha ha, amazingly deceived


™paranoid false jw mad max

your paranoia is of course not from God
but it is from your god the devil:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


a number of false jw's over the years have said i'm another user
and it's usually been someone different, so far i'm about seven different persons, laugh

you false jw's of course all have that same lying, false accusing, paranoid, spirit in you
your daddy the devil

@bolded

1Corinthians 4:12

Maximus69:
@bolded

1Corinthians 4:12

1Co 4:12  And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:

oh duh, ™paranoid false jw mad max

showing you up for your paranoia, lying, false accusing, etc.etc. is not reviling and persecuting

it is the truth oh most duh know nothing



some military intelligence officer, laugh

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

™paranoid false jw mad max
paranoia is fear, so is running away


2Ti_1:7  For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Maximus69:


it will take at least SIX fully armed military police officers to subdue just one single military intelligence officer of my kind, if it's just one combatant soldier i will make him regret the very day he joined the force but if he's not into martial arts of any kind then i'll make him eat and drink through his anus!



twelve Combatant mobile police officers are just like bloody civilians before one military intelligence officer!

Who is a Christian?

johnw47:
1Co 4:12  And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:

oh duh, ™paranoid false jw mad max

showing you up for your paranoia, lying, false accusing, etc.etc. is not reviling and persecuting

it is the truth oh most duh know nothing



some military intelligence officer, laugh

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

When you argue and back it up with the scriptures, you make sense. You're still in the cave age of speaketh, how can you understand anything?

TruthHurts100:
When you argue and back it up with the scriptures, you make sense. You're still in the cave age of speaketh, how can you understand anything?

i like the language of the kjv ,the modern kjv is easier to understand, as below:

MKJV Joh 8:44  You are of the Devil as father, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and did not abide in the truth because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own, for he is a liar and the father of it.

KJV Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

ChristianNorth:
Because of the following portions in the Bible.

1. Jesus is the first born of all creations and through him everything that was made was made. This shows that Jesus was created.

2. And He gave him (Jesus) all the powers and authority in Heaven. This shows Jesus derives his powers from a superior power.

3. Father if you will, let this cup pass over me. This shows that there is a will that supercedes that of Jesus.

4. My father judges no one, but has committed all judgments to the son. Of course, a father is a greater than the son.

5. I do the will of Him that sent me. Jesus takes order and he is responsible to that supreme one.

There are over a 100 verse that shows the supremacy of Jehovah.

johnw47:
i like the language of the kjv ,the modern kjv is easier to understand, as below:

MKJV Joh 8:44  You are of the Devil as father, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and did not abide in the truth because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own, for he is a liar and the father of it.

KJV Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Ok

johnw47:
™paranoid false jw mad max
paranoia is fear, so is running away
2Ti_1:7  For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Running away?

Well it's called avoiding (unwarranted) bitter arguments/insults and curses! Titus 3:9 compared to Matthew 5:38-39

When you're prepared to reason respectfully, tactfully and with mildness i'm always around! 1Peter 3:15 compared to Isaiah 1:18

May you have PEACE!

Maximus69:
Running away?

Well it's called avoiding (unwarranted) bitter arguments/insults and curses! Titus 3:9 compared to Matthew 5:38-39

™paranoid false jw mad max

it's bitter for you to be shown your paranoia etc. etc.
and because you false jw cannnot stop lying, you falsely accuse the truth as being insults and curses
you are truly off your daddy:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Maximus69: When you're prepared to reason respectfully, tactfully and with mildness i'm always around! 1Peter 3:15 compared to Isaiah 1:18

May you have PEACE!

how duh can one be, you think i'm interisted in chatting with satan's mob
i do ocassionally show you up for what you are though:

paranoid, liars, false accusers, polytheists, false prophets, don't i
o mighty combatant anus man https://www.nairaland.com/5336390/non-judicial-meeting-4-jehovahs/2#80956894
etc. etc. etc.

and you puffed up pharisees think God knows you

Mat 7:22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 
Mat 7:23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

TruthHurts100:
Who is a Christian?

a person who has faith in the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ

that faith is God given, all you have to do is seek - look in the bible
i recommend starting with the new testament

Eph 2:8  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 
Eph 2:9  Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Mat_7:7  Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

talk to Jesus in the quiet of your mind, perhaps before going to sleep at night
ask Him to help you to know Him, try it even if it seems strange to you

johnw47:
a person who has faith in the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ

that faith is God given, all you have to do is seek - look in the bible
i recommend starting with the new testament

Eph 2:8  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 
Eph 2:9  Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Mat_7:7  Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

talk to Jesus in the quiet of your mind, perhaps before going to sleep at night
ask Him to help you to know Him, try it even if it seems strange to you

And you seriously think you know Jesus Christ more than Jehovah's Witnesses?

johnw47:
a person who has faith in the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ

that faith is God given, all you have to do is seek - look in the bible
i recommend starting with the new testament

Eph 2:8  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 
Eph 2:9  Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Mat_7:7  Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

talk to Jesus in the quiet of your mind, perhaps before going to sleep at night
ask Him to help you to know Him, try it even if it seems strange to you

You Bible quotes are not exact on the topic. Go read John 17:3 let's start from their. Explain that scripture for us.

TruthHurts100:
And you seriously think you know Jesus Christ more than Jehovah's Witnesses?

i certainly do, i know that the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is God in the flesh, john 1:1&14
and that He is not "a god" as polytheist false jw's believe

are you a false jw? you made out you wanted to know about "Who is a Christian"
and i told you, are you one of them or just a deceiver like them?

TruthHurts100:
You Bible quotes are not exact on the topic.

how are eph 2:8-9 and matt 7:7 not on topic to your question: "Who is a Christian?"

TruthHurts100: Go read John 17:3 let's start from their. Explain that scripture for us.

i don't take directions from false jw's or any deceivers
you asked about "Who is a Christian?" and i replied, now you go from there, you hear me

and then we may get to john 17:3, or better still read back through my posts with false jw's
i have explained that verse to them a few times, of course they couldn't understand
as i'm sure by your puffed up manner that you wouldn't also

™paranoid false jw mad max

https://www.nairaland.com/3886442/jehovahs-witness-organisation-christian/6#83319636

johnw47:
™paranoid false jw mad max

how duh can one be, you think i'm interisted in chatting with satan's mob[ b]

You don't want to chat with Satan's mob, and you also believe i'm one of them. Yet when i avoid you, you typed "running away" and always quoting me!

I want to believe that you're not deluded Sir, but can you help me understand what exactly is it that you want?

Maximus69:
You don't want to chat with Satan's mob, and you also believe i'm one of them. Yet when i avoid you, you typed "running away" and always quoting me[/b]!

I want to believe that you're not deluded Sir, but can you help me understand what exactly is it that you want?

oh duh duh duh, confused ™paranoid anus man mad max

that's right, i'm not interisted in chatting with you satans mob
but i am interisted in showing you to be wrong, which is so easy to do
and is what i was doing, showing your paranoia when you ran away

have you got it yet? oh greatly confused false jw:

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Maximus69:
Now it's evident that you "OLAADEGBU" are the same "johnw47" in disguise!

amazingly deceived ™paranoid false jw mad max


your paranoia and fear is from your god and father the devil:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


some military intelligence officer,

johnw47:
how are eph 2:8-9 and matt 7:7 not on topic to your question: "Who is a Christian?"



i don't take directions from false jw's or any deceivers
you asked about "Who is a Christian?" and i replied, now you go from there, you hear me

and then we may get to john 17:3, or better still read back through my posts with false jw's
i have explained that verse to them a few times, of course they couldn't understand
as i'm sure by your puffed up manner that you wouldn't also

If Jehovah's Witnesses are puffed up, do you think they'll still be knocking on your door with all your hatred for them?

Those scriptures you quoted, you didn't do justice to them.

TruthHurts100:
If Jehovah's Witnesses are puffed up, do you think they'll still be knocking on your door with all your hatred for them?

Those scriptures you quoted, you didn't do justice to them.

oh duh
go chat with false jw's, they might find your dribble interesting

johnw47:
oh duh
go chat with false jw's, they might find your dribble interesting

They shall know the truth and it will set them free. But when you know the truth but you allow hatred and envy to deprive you of the joy and freedom of the truth, you're doing yourself.


You must have wondered why Jehovah's Witnesses are this relevant all over the world considering the fact that they are not even up to 9million of them all over the world.

In Nigeria they are like 1 in ever 400 or so.

Politicians and pastors are the problem in this country. Have you seen any JW among them.

You will have 10 churches on one street, yet you can't point to one person really doing the will of God. You see the socalled pastors in all forms of immorality and criminality. But e dey pain you say dem never report for news say JW embezzle money or impregnate church member....

TruthHurts100:
They shall know the truth and it will set them free. But when you know the truth but you allow hatred and envy to deprive you of the joy and freedom of the truth, you're doing yourself.


You must have wondered why Jehovah's Witnesses are this relevant all over the world considering the fact that they are not even up to 9million of them all over the world.

In Nigeria they are like 1 in ever 400 or so.

Politicians and pastors are the problem in this country. Have you seen any JW among them.

You will have 10 churches on one street, yet you can't point to one person really doing the will of God. You see the socalled pastors in all forms of immorality and criminality. But e dey pain you say dem never report for news say JW embezzle money or impregnate church member....

look i know how wonderful you false jw's think you are
you never stop talking about yourselves, laugh

oh puffed up pharisee false jw:

Mat 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

Mat 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

johnw47:
look i know how wonderful you false jw's think you are
you never stop talking about yourselves, laugh

oh puffed up pharisee false jw:

Mat 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

Mat 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

LOL. Defend your churches and COZA pastors.

TruthHurts100:
LOL. Defend your churches and COZA pastors.

i don't defend churches or pastors, but you false jw's cannot stop lying:
John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it

johnw47:
i don't defend churches or pastors, but you false jw's cannot stop lying:
John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it

OK, I dare you to mention one lie Jehovah's Witnesses have told and watch how the Bible will correct you.

I will keep telling people this, that the spirit of the lord has left the church a long time ago, the enemy has hijacked even the church through the injection of denominational spirit in the church. You will see churches defending their church belief and doctrines but cannot defend Christ in their lives. People are no longer serving God in truth and in spirit. We are rather serving him in the flesh, making human doctrines and procedures on how to pray or serve God. The holy spirit does not set up process or procedure before we can connect to him, he moves as he will, to that open heart free of evil or sin. You do not need to be told what the lord said about you, rather he will come to you and tell you himself, but he cannot because our flesh is heavy and our spirit is dead. One thing for sure is that the programs of God on earth is still on. He used the Law in the beginning to create his own people through the Israelites, the law failed due to the fact that they were canal men and weren't connected to God spiritually rather they needed a prophet to know the heart of God. He then used Grace through his son Jesus, yet the enemy kept attacking the church that Christ founded using his apostles. Yet people keep using the phrase "l am saved by grace" to avoid working out their salvation in fear and trembling. Grace will never take us to heaven, same as faith but only the overcomers can get into the kingdom of God so says the lord in the book of revelation. Paul gave a warning against division in the church and the need for Christians to be more spiritual than in the flesh. And today, all he warned against have already scattered the Church and the enemy has taken over that world that you can hardly find a righteous man on earth. But God is not yet done with his creation, he is already building a nation of his chosen ones on earth. He is building men and women that will not comprise, when faced with tribulations and persecution for overcoming the world and its worldliness. And these are the people that will inherit the kingdom of God. The evil we were running away from is now in the Church. Try and be among the people he is gathering before it is too late.

TruthHurts100:
OK, I dare you to mention one lie Jehovah's Witnesses have told and watch how the Bible will correct you.

oh duh liar, i'm not just talking just about your false doctrines etc.
i'm also talking about your lies in your posts
and with you i only have to go back to your last post:

TruthHurts100: LOL. Defend your churches and COZA pastors.

i don't have a denominational church or pastor

but lying and false accusing is instilled into you false jw's from your daddy the devil:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.