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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Thermal: 2:49pm On Oct 24, 2019
doitforyou:
No matter how damaged Trump is, it will be political suicide for the GOP to have a challenger for Trump. Trump has a yuuge approval ratings with the base and a primary before the general elections will damage Trump further. So far the GOP is doing well in securing a second term victory. All the GOP needs to do is 1. Trump needs to keep doing Trump, his base loves it. 2. Depress the turn out of the Democratic Party.
you know your onions.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Thermal:
midnighter:
Lol "no deal is better than a bad deal" was the most stupid thing they could have said, even if it may be true. Theresa may is now being lampooned for saying it...it was too divisive a statement to make considering how volatile the situation is

You are correct about all those things, I was just saying that if the deal is to go through, its all the mouth they have been making over the past 6 months that will do it

Its a Tory dilemma but its strange to see Tories openly opposing their leader; they are usually more united. Labour is usually more rowdy

Well those examples are not the same, its possible to still be in Europe and not be in the EU. The problem is how to leave. Nigeria can still leave ECOWAS if they so choose, but the land will still be in Africa
don't you think that it is better to have no deal, than have a bad deal?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by obixcel(m):
Lol...Talk about snowflakes melting over President Trump using the word Lynching Here is a Throwback video in the 90s showing Democrats using the exact word during the Impeachment of Then President Bill Clinton, Please share this to all and be grateful for the internet, cos it exposes a lot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQI433Y-p3Y
Boy! Indeed President Trump does know how to push their buttons grin See them melting and looking pathetic
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by midnighter(f): 4:17pm On Oct 24, 2019
Thermal:
don't you think that it is better to have know deal, than have a bad deal?
Thats not the point. This whole thing is a political quagmire...she shouldnt make that kind of statement when most people cant handle such information
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Thermal: 4:34pm On Oct 24, 2019
marvelous000:
I feel like catching that guy that said Obama is better than trump, and bludgeon sense into his empty skull we mercifully brand brain. I'm sorry if I loose me cool, but isn't it the same heap of otiosity(Obama) that conflagrated already parlous situation in Africa, with his misadventure in Libya which culminated into arm proliferation that bolstered his fellow Wahhabi terrorist brothers to maim and destroy like never seen in the annals of Africa.
Is it not the same Obama that precluded us from buying arms to defend ourselves, after arming his Wahhabi brothers(boko haram et al) to the teeth.
Is it not the same Obama that enabled ISIS which almost annihilated yazidis and others, just because he want to oust one man from power.
Is it not the same Obama that was trying to shove his perverted concupiscent ideal down our throat, with concession as the only proviso to relief from his terrorism unleashed on us all
I feel debased knowing that he's of African origin, because he's(him and his democratic cohorts) nothing but a blight to Africa and the world at large.

Those who know my antecedent on here; know that I'm stolidly indifferent to US internal affairs, because I was naive as to how world politics is intertwined, but after seeing Obama's debacle, I began to introspect and retract my stand(and swore never to allow my complacency see his kind to power) . I've come to understand that the left in the US are the very negation of world peace and health.
Their policies is debilitating to not only africa which is my chief interest, but the world at large. I know the 'right' have got it own short comings, but trump have proven to be a protagonist of world peace and world growth, and his presidency is benison to African and African-americans.


It behoves on us to afford him the plaudits he deserves, not because we agree with him on everything, but because he's anti establishment and a counteract to the America we all dislike. All my Russian comrades should chew on the thought why Putin prefer him to that crooked Hillary. I mean the white witch.



Seleh
well put

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Thermal: 4:37pm On Oct 24, 2019
midnighter:
Thats not the point. This whole thing is a political quagmire...she shouldnt make that kind of statement when most people cant handle such information
but that's exactly what boris Johnson is saying. the only people who can't handle it are those against brexit.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by TheShopKeeper(m): 4:42pm On Oct 24, 2019
cactusland:
What ceasefire? It's just a ploy.
...trump has finally handed over the region to putin and russia...

https://www.npr.org/2019/10/22/772387023/turkey-russia-reach-deal-to-control-syrian-areas-once-patrolled-by-the-u-s?t=1571931694682
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gesundheit: 4:45pm On Oct 24, 2019
The main reason why we loathe many Nigerians is the affinity for their mouth to lick the white man balls. They are always against liberal values till their massa show them the master slave treatment. Y'all gat a history book and read about the civil right movement and the systematic white power ruining this country, maybe y'all will finally get it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gesundheit: 4:47pm On Oct 24, 2019
TheShopKeeper:
...trump has finally handed over the region to putin and russia...

https://www.npr.org/2019/10/22/772387023/turkey-russia-reach-deal-to-control-syrian-areas-once-patrolled-by-the-u-s?t=1571931694682
See you can never tell this lot not to worship that orange conman, it's Jim Jones kool aid kinda cult group.

When they finally step to this country their right wing buddies will show them the white treatment finally.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:19pm On Oct 24, 2019
Just seen an article on how climate change proponents could have been responsible via lies,threats and possible fines to airlines to reduce the carbon footprint which causes global warming which in turn causes sea levels to rise which then gives Barrack Obama the perfect opportunity to buy a beach house at Martha's vineyard for 15m USD.


https://nypost.com/2019/10/23/devine-eco-madness-may-be-reason-for-disastrous-boeing-737-max-safety-issues/
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by TheShopKeeper(m): 5:21pm On Oct 24, 2019
obixcel:
Do nothing Democrats are currently engaged in their illegal tirade behind closed doors. The thunder that will descend on these guys come 2020 is doing press up grin grin
....Trump and the Republicans in Congress are good at one thing...peddling the same inaccurate information to their bases...that only the democrats are the ones holding the secret impeachment investigations...

...There are 9 Republicans in the United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, or House Intelligence Committee for short.

Devin Nunes (CA), Mike Conaway (TX), Mike Turner (OH), Brad Wenstrup (OH), Chris Stewart (UT), Rick Crawford (AR), Elise Stefanik (NY), Will Hurd (TX), John Ratcliffe (TX)....Furthermore, both parties have their legal representatives at the hearing who are also allowed to ask questions of the person (s) called the Capitol Hill for hearing...Each member of the HIC have equal timing to get the information they required from the person(s) in question...Hence reason why the hearings take such a long time...in some cases up to 12 hours of questioning....

https://intelligence.house.gov/about/hpsci-minority-members.htm

...Now...the group of Republican Congressmen/women who are from different Select House Committees...who decided to gratecrash the hearing yesterday are nothing less than a street gang and bunch of thugs who should know better (afterall...they are bidding their Supreme Dear Leader's call to ambush the hearing)...this is plain obstruction of investigations...

...It is the same Republicans, when Trey Gowdy who chaired the United States House Select Committee on Events on the 2012 Terrorist Attack in Benghazi which was partly responsible for discovering the existence of Hillary Clinton's private email server...said "that investigations should be held in closed sessions"...Then they took power away from the Democrats Minority, and they approved secret hearings...

...Now it is one rule for the Republicans which should not apply to the Democrats...

...So for the Republicans to behave otherwise is just plain disrepect of the Constitution they sware to behold... The hearing is closed not to “Republicans” but to all members who are not on the relevant committee....And the members of the relevant committee come from both parties...
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by midnighter(f): 5:46pm On Oct 24, 2019
Thermal:
but that's exactly what boris Johnson is saying. the only people who can't handle it are those against brexit.
Who happen to constitute almost half of the population

They are just sacrificing the country to save their party and their own interests
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by TheShopKeeper(m): 5:50pm On Oct 24, 2019
...It is nobody's desire for the impeachment of the current US president...I'll rather prefer the US citizens to vote in a general election to decide if they want Trump to continue in the White House for a 2nd term...

How does impeachment of a U.S. president work?

(Reuters) - The U.S. House of Representatives is conducting an impeachment investigation of President Donald Trump following complaints about a July 25 phone call in which he pressed Ukraine’s president to investigate Joe Biden, a leading contender for the Democratic nomination in 2020.

Here is how the impeachment process works.

WHY IMPEACHMENT?
The founders of the United States created the office of the presidency and feared that its powers could be abused. So they included in the Constitution a process for removing a president. They gave the House “the sole power of impeachment;” the[b] Senate, “the sole power to try all impeachments[/b];” and the chief justice of the Supreme Court the duty of presiding over impeachment trials in the Senate.
The president, under the Constitution, can be removed from office for “treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.” What exactly that means is unclear. Historically, it can encompass corruption and other abuses, including trying to obstruct judicial proceedings.
No president has ever been removed as a direct result of impeachment. One, Richard Nixon, resigned before he could be removed. Two, Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton, were impeached by the House, but not convicted by the Senate.

HOW DOES IT WORK?
Impeachment begins in the House, the lower chamber, which debates and votes on whether to bring charges against the president via approval of an impeachment resolution, or “articles of impeachment,” by a simple majority of the House’s 435 members.
A trio of House committee are currently interviewing witnesses and issuing subpoenas for documents to build a case against Trump — what they have called an “impeachment inquiry.” The White House and congressional Republicans have called this process illegitimate, saying that the House should have voted as a body on whether to authorize the impeachment investigation.
Such full House votes were held in the Clinton and Nixon impeachments. But constitutional lawyers said a full House vote is not required because the Constitution gives the House broad discretion to conduct the impeachment process as it sees fit.
If the House approves articles of impeachment, a trial is then held in the Senate. House members act as the prosecutors; the senators as jurors; the chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court presides. A two-thirds majority vote is required in the 100-member Senate to convict and remove a president. This has never happened.

CAN THE SUPREME COURT OVERTURN?
No. Trump has said on Twitter that he would ask the Supreme Court to intervene if Democrats tried to impeach him. But the founders explicitly rejected allowing an appeal of a Senate conviction to the federal judiciary.

PARTY BREAKDOWN IN CONGRESS?
The House has 235 Democrats, 199 Republicans, and one independent. As a result, the Democrats could impeach Trump with no Republican support.
In 1998, when Republicans had a House majority, the chamber voted largely along party lines to impeach Clinton, a Democrat.
The Senate now has 53 Republicans, 45 Democrats and two independents who usually vote with the Democrats. Conviction and removal of a president would require 67 votes. So, for Trump to be removed from office via impeachment, at least 20 Republicans and all the Democrats and independents would have to vote against him.

WHO BECOMES PRESIDENT IF TRUMP IS REMOVED?
In the unlikely event the Senate convicted Trump, Vice President Mike Pence would become president for the remainder of Trump’s term, which ends on Jan. 20, 2021.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower-impeachment-e/explainer-how-does-impeachment-of-a-u-s-president-work-idUSKBN1X220X
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Thermal: 7:15pm On Oct 24, 2019
midnighter:
Who happen to constitute almost half of the population

They are just sacrificing the country to save their party and their own interests
In every political matter, there must be dissidents. that's why the matter was subjected to a referendum, and the brexisteers came out victorious with majority.
So, I don't see anybody sacrificing anything to save party or interest. they're only carrying out the mandate given to them by the people who happen to be in the majority.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by marvelous000: 7:19pm On Oct 24, 2019
Thermal:
well put
thanks mansmiley
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by midnighter(f):
Thermal:
In every political matter, there must be dissidents. that's why the matter was subjected to a referendum, and the brexisteers came out victorious with majority.
So, I don't see anybody sacrificing anything to save party or interest. they're only carrying out the mandate given to them by the people who happen to be on the majority.
They sacrificed it because they didnt offer that referendum to help the country, they offered it to mess up the Eurosceptics in the cabinet who were grumbling ... they thought they would win but they didnt calculate that most people in poor cities outside of London were angry with them and wanted revenge for years of neglect by government

They had no right to offer that referendum when EU policy takes years to study, negotiate and understand and when they didnt even have any plans on how to implement it.

Most of those brexiteer people voted on wrong information even though they had legitimate concerns. See how disorganised the whole thing is, its even beginning to resemble Nigeria
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by stanech: 7:50pm On Oct 24, 2019
cactusland:
They shouldn't just transition someone just because he likes Frozen. He could end up gay in the future, prepare for that instead of ruining his life by transitioning him.
This is why I hate the democratic party. They promote this useless lifestyle. Now a kids life is ruined
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by stanech: 8:06pm On Oct 24, 2019
We need to be more outspoken on the issue of transgenderism: 99.99% of the time it is a mental health issue. These are deeply disturbed people. It should not be accepted or normalized. Period.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:23pm On Oct 24, 2019
Thermal:
but that's exactly what boris Johnson is saying. the only people who can't handle it are those against brexit.
That's not true! There are many MPs who support brexit but not this deal. Besides, how can they possibly pass a bill with zero committee scrutiny?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gesundheit: 8:46pm On Oct 24, 2019
stanech:
This is why I hate the democratic party. They promote this useless lifestyle. Now a kids life is ruined
What a clown!!! When you finally get to America, you definitely get the love your fellow right wingers have for the black man.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by TheShopKeeper(m): 8:59pm On Oct 24, 2019
stanech:
We need to be more outspoken on the issue of transgenderism: 99.99% of the time it is a mental health issue. These are deeply disturbed people. It should not be accepted or normalized. Period.
...yes you are right...trangenderism and all other forms of sexual orientation are forms of mental health issues..unfortunately..the media is pushing the agenda in our face...it is even sad when young children are involved by their parents...
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by obixcel(m): 9:27pm On Oct 24, 2019
TheShopKeeper:
...yes you are right...trangenderism and all other forms of sexual orientation are forms of mental health issues..unfortunately..the media is pushing the agenda in our face...it is even sad when young children are involved by their parents...
Well said
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by obixcel(m): 9:30pm On Oct 24, 2019
stanech:
We need to be more outspoken on the issue of transgenderism: 99.99% of the time it is a mental health issue. These are deeply disturbed people. It should not be accepted or normalized. Period.
Better Now than wait till it becomes a normal thing generally accepted by the society at large.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Wyttcat: 3:33am On Oct 25, 2019
That and more! Putting a stop to unnecessary war to enrich a few is a deal breaker for me., and getting the deepstate pay for all its crime against humanity is at the top of that.
budaatum:
Is this what you guys believe that make you see him as the messiah of the gold standard?

Lol, big time to that!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by stanech: 3:46am On Oct 25, 2019
BREAKING: Texas Judge Kim Cook has ruled that Jeffrey Younger can share guardianship over his son, James.

He will now have a say over medical decisions, such as chemical castration.

Great news!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by stanech: 3:50am On Oct 25, 2019
gesundheit:
What a clown!!! When you finally get to America, you definitely get the love your fellow right wingers have for the black man.
And here's the Republicans are racist speech again. Calm down my friend take it easy my friend. do not fake a hate crime.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by stanech: 3:52am On Oct 25, 2019
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obixcel:
Better Now than wait till it becomes a normal thing generally accepted by the society at large.
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Wyttcat: 3:58am On Oct 25, 2019
William's Tayloris a Xlinton and George Soros operatives and has to do his masters bidding. Let's hear from neutral people who have no dog in the fight.
gesundheit:
Amb Williams Taylor testimony throw a grenade to all the trumpian crap.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Wyttcat: 4:13am On Oct 25, 2019
You guys are just so dubious! The text message you are talking about was an allegation by one and immediately debunked by the other. No single person with direct information so far, it's been rumors and gossips. Democrats know they have nothing, that's why they are doing everything in secrecy. At least the impeachment is keeping the Democrats too busy from organizing mass shooting, planning another war and other events to distract Americans.
TheShopKeeper:
...what about the details of the text messages exchanged between taylor and snodland before ans after the july 25 trump's phone call with zelensky - ukraine president...is that hearsay?...4 people with first-hand information / involvement have testified in congress...(volker, snodland, taylor and former amb to ukraine yovanovitch)...so far the information has been damning to trump...

...link to the statement...

https://www.scribd.com/document/431565878/Taylor-Opening#from_embed
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Wyttcat: 4:28am On Oct 25, 2019
Fake news! Why can't they let Americans hear this directly from the person? What are they hiding and afraid of?

Rudy got information under oath and standing by it, let all the masquerades behind the close door come and stand by their own allegation, why is this difficult?

TheShopKeeper:
...these career diplomats keep record of every conversation...it will be hard for 'american's mayor' rudy guiliani to come out of this smelling of roses...
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Wyttcat:
That's what Democrats are doing to this country and some are cheering them on. They now bring men and women to school to have sex in front of children for sex education. The patriots know that Trump is the last chance to get it right and will take care of it. I just pray for more patience from them.
stanech:
A mother decided that her 7 year old boy is really a girl because he liked the movie Frozen. The husband insisted that he's a boy. Courts got involved. Jury just ruled that, yes, the boy is a girl and he will now be "transitioned" into one cry embarassed cry embarassed
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Wyttcat: 4:40am On Oct 25, 2019
Most of them will even be in the lock-up before then. Why do you think they are desperate to get Trumpat all cost? They know their time is up.
obixcel:
Do nothing Democrats are currently engaged in their illegal tirade behind closed doors. The thunder that will descend on these guys come 2020 is doing press up grin grin
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