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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nozzle(m): 2:08pm On Oct 29, 2019
Good afternoon my ppl,

Please what will be the best capacity of submersible pump for a duplex, area is ibeju lekki, tank height is 27feet. .
How much and where is the best place to get it?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrokeFucker007: 2:11pm On Oct 29, 2019
Please bosses here I want to ask an important question, can 3-4 million build a 3 or 4 bedroom bungalow? land excluded. location is south east? please help me with answers.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 2:30pm On Oct 29, 2019
segzy14:


For standard mix, 10-11bags is needed because one bag of cement will lay 50blocks of 9inches.

Sorry sir..
There's no 1 standard mix in construction... What we have is series of standards.

What you shd have written is USING MIX RATIO 1:X you'll need 10-11 bags (not to assume I didn't use standard mix when I said 9-10)

Eg...what is the standard mix of concrete?
1:1.5:3
1:2:4
1:3:6
Or
1.4.8

Ans: They are all standards... What determines the mix to use is THE STRENGTH REQUIRED OR PURPOSE OF CONCRETE... same for Block.

Thanks


Cc.. veekid

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:32pm On Oct 29, 2019
saydfact:


Sorry sir..
There's no 1 standard mix in construction... What we have is series of standards.

What you shd have written is USING MIX RATIO 1:X you'll need 10-11 bags (not to assume I didn't use standard mix when I said 9-10)

Eg...what is the standard mix of concrete?
1:1.5:3
1:2:4
1:3:6
Or
1.4.8

Ans: They are all standards... What determines the mix to use is THE STRENGTH REQUIRED OR PURPOSE OF CONCRETE... same for Block.

Thanks


Cc.. veekid




Hmmmm
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 2:33pm On Oct 29, 2019
BrokeFucker007:
Please bosses here I want to ask an important question, can 3-4 million build a 3 or 4 bedroom bungalow? land excluded. location is south east? please help me with answers.

3m to 4m is ambiguous..

Is it 3m or 4m you're budgeting?
3m won't but 4m might - depending on design and client requirement.

Good luck

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 3:18pm On Oct 29, 2019
Nozzle:
Good afternoon my ppl,

Please what will be the best capacity of submersible pump for a duplex, area is ibeju lekki, tank height is 27feet. .
How much and where is the best place to get it?

1hp is best for that area, because water table their is not deep, more so 1hp can go as far as 100-130ft down and pump up to 45-60ft height.


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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 3:23pm On Oct 29, 2019
segzy14:


For standard mix, 10-11bags is needed because one bag of cement will lay 50blocks of 9inches.

Very correct

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 3:26pm On Oct 29, 2019
saydfact:


Sorry sir..
There's no 1 standard mix in construction... What we have is series of standards.

What you shd have written is USING MIX RATIO 1:X you'll need 10-11 bags (not to assume I didn't use standard mix when I said 9-10)

Eg...what is the standard mix of concrete?
1:1.5:3
1:2:4
1:3:6
Or
1.4.8

Ans: They are all standards... What determines the mix to use is THE STRENGTH REQUIRED OR PURPOSE OF CONCRETE... same for Block.

Thanks

Segcy14 is talking about mortar not concrete.
The standard mortar ratio for block setting is 1:6 or 1;7 which will set about 50blocks of 9”


Cc.. veekid
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 3:30pm On Oct 29, 2019
saydfact:


Sorry sir..
There's no 1 standard mix in construction... What we have is series of standards.

What you shd have written is USING MIX RATIO 1:X you'll need 10-11 bags (not to assume I didn't use standard mix when I said 9-10)

Eg...what is the standard mix of concrete?
1:1.5:3
1:2:4
1:3:6
Or
1.4.8

Ans: They are all standards... What determines the mix to use is THE STRENGTH REQUIRED OR PURPOSE OF CONCRETE... same for Block.

Thanks


Cc.. veekid


Segcy14 is very correct bcs he is talking about mortar ratio for block setting which is the question OP asked not concrete mixture as you posted.
Standard mortar for block setting is either 1:6 or 1;7 which will set about 50 blocks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by veekid(m): 3:37pm On Oct 29, 2019
saydfact:


Sorry sir..
There's no 1 standard mix in construction... What we have is series of standards.

What you shd have written is USING MIX RATIO 1:X you'll need 10-11 bags (not to assume I didn't use standard mix when I said 9-10)

Eg...what is the standard mix of concrete?
1:1.5:3
1:2:4
1:3:6
Or
1.4.8

Ans: They are all standards... What determines the mix to use is THE STRENGTH REQUIRED OR PURPOSE OF CONCRETE... same for Block.

Thanks


Cc.. veekid
thanks man

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrokeFucker007: 3:51pm On Oct 29, 2019
saydfact:


3m to 4m is ambiguous..

Is it 3m or 4m you're budgeting?
3m won't but 4m might - depending on design and client requirement.

Good luck
Thank you so much for your prompt response, I'm thinking a design that's not so complex and I'm glad 4M can do it. thanks so much and I also read your thread. You have really helped so many of us here and I thank you so much for sharing your profound knowledge.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Babs612000(m): 5:45pm On Oct 29, 2019
BrokeFucker007:
Thank you so much for your prompt response, I'm thinking a design that's not so complex and I'm glad 4M can do it. thanks so much and I also read your thread. You have really helped so many of us here and I thank you so much for sharing your profound knowledge.
l am very sorry if you are thinking that N4m can build 4 bedrooms bungalow
No matter how the design may be with the cost of building materials now.
If you are talking of setting out the blocks to a low cost roofing level that may be possible but to finishing like electrical,plumbing and painting no way that N4m will finished the house.
More so you don't need to have 3 or 4m before you start building.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrokeFucker007: 6:13pm On Oct 29, 2019
Babs612000:
l am very sorry if you are thinking that N4m can build 4 bedrooms bungalow
No matter how the design may be with the cost of building materials now.
If you are talking of setting out the blocks to a low cost roofing level that may be possible but to finishing like electrical,plumbing and painting no way that N4m will finished the house.
More so you don't need to have 3 or 4m before you start building.
Thanks for your input sir, how much do you think will do the job apart from the land.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dennis3D(m): 6:19pm On Oct 29, 2019
BrokeFucker007:
Please bosses here I want to ask an important question, can 3-4 million build a 3 or 4 bedroom bungalow? land excluded. location is south east? please help me with answers.

Construction to Form Carcass only. Foundation to Roofing only. Yes it can relatively. Though the design would play a major role in this cost. No parapet obviously. And no too much fancy pillars.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dennis3D(m): 6:22pm On Oct 29, 2019
rotecch77:


Very correct

More like it.

Using a ration of 1:7

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Bruno85: 8:36pm On Oct 29, 2019
This is the quotation I got for a painting job for a house of 794sqm approximately.
Satin for all internal painting: 19 buckets @ N21,000 per bucket. Total:N399,000. Matt paint for POP ceiling and external facade painting: 24 buckets @N12,000 per bucket. Total: N288,000. Total cost of paints N(399,000+288,000). Labour on painting=N200,000. Grand total=N887,000. Kindly help me look into this.@gbadexy
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DFAMEGUY11S(m): 9:01pm On Oct 29, 2019
Nozzle:
Good afternoon my ppl,

Please what will be the best capacity of submersible pump for a duplex, area is ibeju lekki, tank height is 27feet. .
How much and where is the best place to get it?
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 9:25pm On Oct 29, 2019
Bruno85:
This is the quotation I got for a painting job for a house of 794sqm approximately.
Satin for all internal painting: 19 buckets @ N21,000 per bucket. Total:N399,000. Matt paint for POP ceiling and external facade painting: 24 buckets @N12,000 per bucket. Total: N288,000. Total cost of paints N(399,000+288,000). Labour on painting=N200,000. Grand total=N887,000. Kindly help me look into this.@gbadexy
I can't really say anything on the cost and quantity required for paint.
The quality determines the spread rate and different brands sell at different prices. Some brands are way much expensive for the satin. I'm skeptical about the matte for that price though.
Would the matte have soft sheen and is it cleanable? Because eggshell matte with soft sheen is only slightly less than satin because the composition is almost similar except with addition of some fillers for toughness. Some just pass premium grade emulsion as matte.
The labor cost is reasonable for the whole internal and external, including fence, priming if necessary and sandpaper work.
What I can only do is give quotation of mine as comparison. 794sqm at 50 sqm per drum would require 16 drums, and at N18000 would give N288000.
I can't say the quantity for the matte due to insufficient details but I supply it for N14000 per drum and if it's premium emulsion, I supply for N9000 per drum.
You may however use a Snow White premium emulsion for the ceiling and matte for the external.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by wakes: 10:33pm On Oct 29, 2019
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Bruno85: 5:06am On Oct 30, 2019
gbadexy:

I can't really say anything on the cost and quantity required for paint.
The quality determines the spread rate and different brands sell at different prices. Some brands are way much expensive for the satin. I'm skeptical about the matte for that price though.
Would the matte have soft sheen and is it cleanable? Because eggshell matte with soft sheen is only slightly less than satin because the composition is almost similar except with addition of some fillers for toughness. Some just pass premium grade emulsion as matte.
The labor cost is reasonable for the whole internal and external, including fence, priming if necessary and sandpaper work.
What I can only do is give quotation of mine as comparison. 794sqm at 50 sqm per drum would require 16 drums, and at N18000 would give N288000.
I can't say the quantity for the matte due to insufficient details but I supply it for N14000 per drum and if it's premium emulsion, I supply for N9000 per drum.
You may however use a Snow White premium emulsion for the ceiling and matte for the external.

Thanks for your response.
I understand that the total sqm is both external and internal, meaning the satin will be less than 16 drums and the matte will make up the remaining. fence is not inclusive. Are your paints negotiable? Do you supply alone or do you also paint? What is my other option for wall preparations to give a smooth touch considering the type of paint I want to use.
My location is outside Lagos and I wont mind engaging you.
Thanks.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 5:37am On Oct 30, 2019
gbadexy:

I can't really say anything on the cost and quantity required for paint.
The quality determines the spread rate and different brands sell at different prices. Some brands are way much expensive for the satin. I'm skeptical about the matte for that price though.
Would the matte have soft sheen and is it cleanable? Because eggshell matte with soft sheen is only slightly less than satin because the composition is almost similar except with addition of some fillers for toughness. Some just pass premium grade emulsion as matte.
The labor cost is reasonable for the whole internal and external, including fence, priming if necessary and sandpaper work.
What I can only do is give quotation of mine as comparison. 794sqm at 50 sqm per drum would require 16 drums, and at N18000 would give N288000.
I can't say the quantity for the matte due to insufficient details but I supply it for N14000 per drum and if it's premium emulsion, I supply for N9000 per drum.
You may however use a Snow White premium emulsion for the ceiling and matte for the external.

Gbadexy please what type of paint is this? Its not wall paper

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 5:44am On Oct 30, 2019
Bruno85:


Thanks for your response.
I understand that the total sqm is both external and internal, meaning the satin will be less than 16 drums and the matte will make up the remaining. fence is not inclusive. Are your paints negotiable? Do you supply alone or do you also paint? What is my other option for wall preparations to give a smooth touch considering the type of paint I want to use.
My location is outside Lagos and I wont mind engaging you.
Thanks.
In that case, the quantity of satin would be lesser. I supply and recommend experienced painters that have proven themselves to me over time but if you're not on ground, I could handle them on your behalf since I would be responsible for recommending them.
I gave best price for good quality products. my matte could pass for some other satin, so even these products have different qualities.
You could prime the building instead of screeding and still get a good result.
I've supplied primer for several buildings and you would think it was screeded.
Here is a link to a recently concluded one: https://www.nairaland.com/4577731/ongoing-painting-pictures-nairalanders-lekki.
Both internal and external was primed and painted satin and matte respectively.
Location is no barrier sir.
Below are pictures primer and after painting of a building with a very serious case of cracks. some more than hairline.
I couldn't create a thread for it because I didn't get the go ahead, the client wanted to post it on his building diary thread but never got around to doing it again but want to use these as illustrationpurpose.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 5:52am On Oct 30, 2019
ceelog:


Gbadexy please what type of paint is this? Its not wall paper
This looks like marble trowel to me sir.
I would ask my painters for more details though. It could be another known product but with a special application process to give different effect. The specialized ones know these things better being on the field and gives us specifications.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 5:57am On Oct 30, 2019
gbadexy:

This looks like marble trowel to me sir.
I would ask my painters for more details though. It could be another known product but with a special application process to give different effect. The specialized ones know these things better being on the field and gives us specifications.

Which one be DAT?
Could you please explain and do you have it?
I saw something like Polychrome coat or so?

Much closer pic

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 6:07am On Oct 30, 2019
ceelog:


Which one be DAT?
Could you please explain and do you have it?
I saw something like Polychrome coat or so?

Much closer pic
Okay! I know polychrome and I don't supply it. its sprayed on with a machine and is more smoother than marble trowel. They spray on different colored particles.
Ask about it's dirt retention level and cleanability though.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 6:35am On Oct 30, 2019
Badgers14:
Between Niger pipe and ABC pipe... which one is the best quality for plumbing work?

Niger pipe is very good although there are others good pipe as well.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Bruno85: 6:35am On Oct 30, 2019
gbadexy:

In that case, the quantity of satin would be lesser. I supply and recommend experienced painters that have proven themselves to me over time but if you're not on ground, I could handle them on your behalf since I would be responsible for recommending them.
I gave best price for good quality products. my matte could pass for some other satin, so even these products have different qualities.
You could prime the building instead of screeding and still get a good result.
I've supplied primer for several buildings and you would think it was screeded.
Here is a link to a recently concluded one: https://www.nairaland.com/4577731/ongoing-painting-pictures-nairalanders-lekki.
Both internal and external was primed and painted satin and matte respectively.
Location is no barrier sir.
Below are pictures primer and after painting of a building with a very serious case of cracks. some more than hairline.
I couldn't create a thread for it because I didn't get the go ahead, the client wanted to post it on his building diary thread but never got around to doing it again but want to use these as illustrationpurpose.

For the above sqm, what quantity of primer will be recommended and what's the cost. Will the painter be paid separately for the priming and sand papering or will it be inclusive in the painting cost. How much will it cost to deliver the paint to owerri??
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 7:04am On Oct 30, 2019
Bruno85:


For the above sqm, what quantity of primer will be recommended and what's the cost. Will the painter be paid separately for the priming and sand papering or will it be inclusive in the painting cost. How much will it cost to deliver the paint to owerri??
It would require approximately 27 drums of primer at N5000 per drum. I could even make it same color as the main color so the paint covers faster.
From experience, painters don't charge separate for priming because ideally buildings are meant to be primed before painting. They would charge a bit higher though due to the sandpaper application.
Transport companies charge N800 to N1000 per drum to east generally but I will charge at N400 and add it up as a sort of discount not to discourage you with the extra transport cost.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 3:23pm On Oct 30, 2019
Hello all,

What is the estimated cost savings per block in molding blocks on site vs purchasing specially made blocks?
For the sake of analysis, lets say we need 20k (twenty thousand) blocks and space is available on site to stack it....

1) What is the best unit cost (and savings) we can achieve if we mold compared to buying from the market at btw N200-N220 per block?

2) What are the materials required and quantities to mold 20,000 pieces of 9" blocks on site?

Thanks for your contributions.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 8:03pm On Oct 30, 2019
megacontrol:
Hello all,

What is the estimated cost savings per block in molding blocks on site vs purchasing specially made blocks?
For the sake of analysis, lets say we need 20k (twenty thousand) blocks and space is available on site to stack it....

1) What is the best unit cost (and savings) we can achieve if we mold compared to buying from the market at btw N200-N220 per block?

2) What are the materials required and quantities to mold 20,000 pieces of 9" blocks on site?

Thanks for your contributions.
Unit cost will also depend on the method of block molding, if u will be using machine or hand mold blocks

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