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Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by IamAtikulate: 1:25pm On Nov 03, 2019
AlphaStyles:
Yes alpha jets can be upgraded and equipped with weapons and air guns if u drop all ur bombs use the machine gun installed in the jet
Can you bomb the whole Lagos
Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by AlphaStyles(m): 1:28pm On Nov 03, 2019
IamAtikulate:
Can you bomb the whole Lagos
Compare Lagos to borno

It has to do with strategic pin points Boko Haram holds not the whole Borno main focus is sambisa Airforce is bombing Army is moving in for the finishing
Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by nasirujj(m): 1:54pm On Nov 03, 2019
AlphaStyles:
which one be Are a son of God?
Are you a son of God.
Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by AlphaStyles(m): 1:57pm On Nov 03, 2019
nasirujj:
Are you a son of God.
I am also God's son but I wasn't created to save humanity or die for sins

Jesus was that is why it was written only begotten son
Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by nasirujj(m): 2:09pm On Nov 03, 2019
AlphaStyles:
I am also God's son but I wasn't created to save humanity or die for sins

Jesus was that is why it was written only begotten son
Lol We are back where we started, that's why I brought the issue of the begotten son from the beginning. Cos I know that it will be your only answer, that word has been removed as a fabrication by your
scholars so please get another point bro.
Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by AlphaStyles(m): 2:13pm On Nov 03, 2019
nasirujj:
Lol We are back where we started, that's why I brought the issue of the begotten son from the beginning. Cos I know that it will be your only answer, that word has been removed as a fabrication by your
scholars so please get another point bro.
begotten was removed and only son was added what is the difference

All the books from RSV to KJV states Jesus as son of God sent to save mankind now tell me where the difference is and confusion is ? It's either u are refusing to accept the truth or u just can't read
Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by nasirujj(m): 2:31pm On Nov 03, 2019
AlphaStyles:
begotten was removed and only son was added what is the difference

All the books from RSV to KJV states Jesus as son of God sent to save mankind now tell me where the difference is and confusion is ? It's either u are refusing to accept the truth or u just can't read
Same book said all those laid by the spirit of God are son's of God which one should I believe.
Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by AlphaStyles(m): 2:37pm On Nov 03, 2019
nasirujj:
Same book said all those laid by the spirit of God are son's of God which one should I believe.
Bros stop confusing yourself they are different different Bible versions but the same message but just different English grammar all the whole Bible versions proclaimed Jesus Christ as the son of God

I can still have my biological can son and still call other people children my son e.g when they great me and I responded my son how are you

God calling us his sons doesn't mean he doesn't have his own son

That same son he sent is Jesus Christ

When he said only son he meant he is the only sibling
Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by nasirujj(m): 2:48pm On Nov 03, 2019
AlphaStyles:
Bros stop confusing yourself they are different different Bible versions but the same message but just different English grammar all the whole Bible versions proclaimed Jesus Christ as the son of God

I can still have my biological can son and still call other people children my son e.g when they great me and I responded my son how are you

God calling us his sons doesn't mean he doesn't


have his own son

That same son he sent is Jesus Christ

When he said only son he meant he is the only

sibling
But you can't call them your begotten son's.
The begotten could have been your only claim but it have been removed. OK forget that One. Where in the Bible did Jesus himself said I'm god, son of god or worship me. Remember I said Jesus.
Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by abdullahi45: 2:50pm On Nov 03, 2019
IamAtikulate:
How did Mohammed conquered Mecca?
I hope you were able comprehend all that was written above. About the conquest of meccah that interests you. Fine, meccah was conquered via preaching the word of God and through battles. It may interests you to know that Meccans accepted Islam through preaching and not through battles. So the conquest of Mecca doesn't translates to forcing Islam on Meccans.

Below may help you if you are interested;
https://ilmfeed.com/8-rules-of-engagement-taught-by-the-prophet-muhammad/
Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by ebusmus: 2:54pm On Nov 03, 2019
There's nothing like extremism in islam,it's call jihad,it's one one of islamic pillars of faith
Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by AlphaStyles(m): 3:03pm On Nov 03, 2019
nasirujj:
But you can't call them your begotten son's.
The begotten could have been your only claim but it have been removed. OK forget that One. Where in the Bible did Jesus himself said I'm god, son of god or worship me. Remember I said Jesus.
if Jesus didn't say he was the son of God then why was he arrested and crucified? Re-read John 3-16 again and check the meaning of begotten in ur dictionary like I said the same message different grammar like u have book that have the same message but translated in different languages
Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by ThatFairGuy: 4:14pm On Nov 03, 2019
Thanks to God, ''It seems" but It's not. We have many professors of Islamic studies that condemns their devilish acts as well, having PhD in islamic studies doesn't make someone a true believer. They're misguided being. If myself could also know many quotations in Qur'an and Hadith that condemns their acts, them giving quotations shouldn't be ur conclusion about Islam.... You should know, for them to be factionalized, they doubt themselves (claims) as well

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SamJed:
I stand to be corrected but it seems this groups are practising the true form of Islam that is Islam as written in the Quran. They stand so bold quoting the Quran giving quotations to defend their stance. Also for the former leader of ISIS to be a PhD holder in Islamic studies, it shows that he knows what he is doing.....from my own point of view, this guys are not daft, they are actually following instructions in their book
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Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by IamAtikulate: 5:46pm On Nov 03, 2019
abdullahi45:
I hope you were able comprehend all that was written above. About the conquest of meccah that interests you. Fine, meccah was conquered via preaching the word of God and through battles. It may interests you to know that Meccans accepted Islam through preaching and not through battles. So the conquest of Mecca doesn't translates to forcing Islam on Meccans.

Below may help you if you are interested;
https://ilmfeed.com/8-rules-of-engagement-taught-by-the-prophet-muhammad/
During Salah, I visited a moslem friend and we watched a movie on the early history of Mohammed and Islam.

I noticed that Mohammed was not depicted in the entire movie and asked why and my friend told me it is unislamic to depict Mohammed.

But what caught my interest was the conquest of Mecca led by Mohammed. I gave up on Islam at that point.

You don't force religion on the people.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_of_Mecca
Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by IamAtikulate: 5:52pm On Nov 03, 2019
AlphaStyles:
Compare Lagos to borno

It has to do with strategic pin points Boko Haram holds not the whole Borno main focus is sambisa Airforce is bombing Army is moving in for the finishing
Lol.

See how it sound so easy for you. I asked a simple question, can you bomb Lagos?

If no, then your suggestion is not feasiable because sambisa is as large as lagos.

Abuja stadium can contain 80,000 people, now imagine how sambiza will swallow 80k soldiers.

And don't forget we don't have the resources to spare 80k soldiers for NE alone.
Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by AlphaStyles(m): 6:07pm On Nov 03, 2019
IamAtikulate:
Lol.

See how it sound so easy for you. I asked a simple question, can you bomb Lagos?

If no, then your suggestion is not feasiable because sambisa is as large as lagos.

Abuja stadium can contain 80,000 people, now imagine how sambiza will swallow 80k soldiers.

And don't forget we don't have the resources to spare 80k soldiers for NE alone.
u can't bomb Lagos because it's not the land u are bombing but the main enemies who goes to war to bomb ground? Now talking of sambisa it's large but it doesn't mean soldiers can't bomb Boko Haram in it when soldiers push in Boko Haram will retreat Airforce will monitor the skies with jets and drones and bomb any living soul it finds in that forest while the army does clear out mission and talking of soldiers it's not only army that is fighting Boko Haram both Airforce and Navy ground troops are stationed there and I didn't mention 80 thousand troops even US military doesn't deploy 80k troops for war I am talking about the soldiers over there
Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by oyatz(m): 7:24pm On Nov 03, 2019
The original Abubakar Shekau has been killed.

The were several impostors put forward by B/Haram to act as Shekau so as to create a false impression that Shekau can't be killed.

There are many Abubakar Shekau which is now like a 'title' which can be held in succession by many people.




topcatking:
I thought "they" said, this Shekau dude was dead?

Man...the lies of these leaders sha...
Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by oyatz(m): 7:30pm On Nov 03, 2019
Islam means SUBMISSION not peace.



Kokoebapluse:
grin, useless Boko Haram, all said in Quran religion is not by force, allah said don't fight those who did not fight you, allah said always have patients over unbeliever, allah said always have patients in every things going on around you, allah said he will cast terro into the hearth of unbeliever Boko Haram group is one of unbeliever,

Islam mean peace. Peace for everybody.

May almighty Allah be with uhma, amin
Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by ifyboy60(m): 9:02pm On Nov 03, 2019
AlphaStyles:
u can't bomb Lagos because it's not the land u are bombing but the main enemies who goes to war to bomb ground? Now talking of sambisa it's large but it doesn't mean soldiers can't bomb Boko Haram in it when soldiers push in Boko Haram will retreat Airforce will monitor the skies with jets and drones and bomb any living soul it finds in that forest while the army does clear out mission and talking of soldiers it's not only army that is fighting Boko Haram both Airforce and Navy ground troops are stationed there and I didn't mention 80 thousand troops even US military doesn't deploy 80k troops for war I am talking about the soldiers over there
look how it sounds easy for you.
you don't get @IamAtikulate point.

1. we don't have the resources to carry out such air raids over a large geographical location. each sorties (bombing mission) by a jet costs more than 20million naija.
2.Our jets are old fashioned with little equipments, and low bombing impacts, our pilots are not top notch. during the Biafra war, it was Egyptians, Pakistans and Russias that handled the Nigerian Air Force, most of our jets were bought by Shehu Shagari.
3. if we can't deploy more than a hundred thousand troops we can't achieve what you are imagining and we honestly can't.
Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by AlphaStyles(m): 9:17pm On Nov 03, 2019
ifyboy60:
look how it sounds easy for you.
you don't get @IamAtikulate point.

1. we don't have the resources to carry out such air raids over a large geographical location. each sorties (bombing mission) by a jet costs more than 20million naija.
2.Our jets are old fashioned with little equipments, and low bombing impacts, our pilots are not top notch. during the Biafra war, it was Egyptians, Pakistans and Russias that handled the Nigerian Air Force, most of our jets were bought by Shehu Shagari.
3. if we can't deploy more than a hundred thousand troops we can't achieve what you are imagining and we honestly can't.
First of all it is easy when the military leaders want it to be easy

Now number 1 we won't be bombing the area we will only be bombing and destroying Boko Haram locations abi u wan tell me say Boko Haram population pass our military own abi Dem cover the whole maiduguri or sambisa?

Number 2 we keep buying new jets and helicopters to add more power and we have bombs with high impact rates and we have top notch pilots both home and some are currently in the United States, Bangladesh, France, India and United kingdom receiving training and this isn't Biafra war this is modern war u can't compare training of those days to this days

Number 3 we don't need more than 100k troops to fight Boko Haram

It depends on strategic planning Airforce surveys sends signals to the Army and Navy troops move in finish them no matter what when the Army moves in Boko Haram will retreat the reason why sometimes we have casualties is because our military plays defence and Boko Haram plays attack

The Airforce will survey the area bomb them the Army moves in for clearance simple

Now talking of cost we have that money it has already been budgeted na we no serious to end am we are taking Boko Haram and sambisa as group and area too hard to overcome that means if it was ISIS then our own don finish be that na
Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by ifyboy60(m): 9:43pm On Nov 03, 2019
AlphaStyles:
Now talking of cost we have that money it has already been budgeted na we no serious to end am we are taking Boko Haram and sambisa as group and area too hard to overcome that means if it was ISIS then our own don finish be that na
if it was ISIS then our own don finish be that na.lol

truth is Nigeria is not as rich as u think. Our budget at most is 30billion dollars. I think the South African bugdet is around 100billion dollars and they have a population of 40 million while we are 201 million with a budget of 30 billion, we are poo,r though we have potential.
Worst still, the money will still be looted�

We can only deploy jets easily if we manufactured them. We have to buy, and the selling country might not even want to give us what we need. Who gives out there best stuff.
Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by kikake: 11:47pm On Nov 03, 2019
shineeye1:
Boko haram is not even satisfied with the sharia operating in the12 northern states, if not they would settle in one of them to live their low lives. What they are protesting is the secular Constitution of Nigeria. It is an abomination for Muslim to live under law which supersedes the Qur'an! In order words, other faiths have no right to a non Islamic life where Muslim exist! It is actually a religious lunacy of " live and let die"! Every Muslim is sympathetic to this lunacy! The jihad fundamental Muslim goes beyond mere sympathy to this course by fighting , maiming and killing to actualize their Utopia. Islam is incompatible with world peace! The world must expunge Islam to secure peace. This is the acid truth, no one wants to proclaim...
Southern politicians pretend they don't know all these. Southern politicians operate as if the two southern Nigeria regions are tied to northern Nigeria with an unbreakable cord.
Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by AlphaStyles(m): 8:50am On Nov 04, 2019
ifyboy60:
if it was ISIS then our own don finish be that na.lol

truth is Nigeria is not as rich as u think. Our budget at most is 30billion dollars. I think the South African bugdet is around 100billion dollars and they have a population of 40 million while we are 201 million with a budget of 30 billion, we are poo,r though we have potential.
Worst still, the money will still be looted�


We can only deploy jets easily if we manufactured them. We have to buy, and the selling country might not even want to give us what we need. Who gives out there best stuff.
Bros if to say we poor we for not fit contribute 7billion naira for only BBN


If to say we poor u for no see this kind nonsense

Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by abdullahi45: 1:31am On Nov 06, 2019
IamAtikulate:
During Salah, I visited a moslem friend and we watched a movie on the early history of Mohammed and Islam.

I noticed that Mohammed was not depicted in the entire movie and asked why and my friend told me it is unislamic to depict Mohammed.

But what caught my interest was the conquest of Mecca led by Mohammed. I gave up on Islam at that point.

You don't force religion on the people.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_of_Mecca
My above points about the conquest of Mecca still remain valid.
Re: Abubakar Shekau Threatens Audu Bulama Bukarti, Boko Haram Researcher by IamAtikulate: 11:55am On Nov 06, 2019
abdullahi45:
My above points about the conquest of Mecca still remain valid.
I stand by mine. Islam was imposed on the Meccans through bloodshed
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