shadeyinka:

Exactly!
I didn't know you were that smart.

Like, fornication is a sin because I was told it's a sin (even though I also know that it is for my protection). At least, I have my source of morality: what's your's? Objective reasonings?

That is not the meaning of absolute (objective) morality. If something is good or bad only because your god declared so, then what you have is divine command theory. Your god has equivocated on its commands so they cannot be absolute.

LordReed:


That is not the meaning of absolute (objective) morality. If something is good or bad only because your god declared so, then what you have is divine command theory. Your god has equivocated on its commands so they cannot be absolute.

I do not have a god!

Even with God people will still do bad things and justify it with God e.g slavery, conquest, killing apostates, killing homosexuals, killing adulterers, wife beating, stoning non-virgins to death, abusing children and so many more.

In a secular society these practices are Immoral and illegal but we can find them in religious text.

Muslim terrorists and militant crusaders killed people and said God order them to do it, how can you convince them that they are doing bad things when they can justify it with God?

Steven Weinberg was right when he said,

Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things.
But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

shadeyinka:

Exactly!
I didn't know you were that smart.

Like, fornication is a sin because I was told it's a sin (even though I also know that it is for my protection). At least, I have my source of morality: what's your's? Objective reasonings?

Same reason I'll also give as to why fornication is also bad. For your my own protection. Common sense, reason and the society as a whole is my own source of morality. It is also your own source of morality because the bible approves of rape for example but you don't because your society disapproves of it. You only use God but there are many many things that your God commands that are very evil that even you will NOT try to money them. . As a Christian you ONLY pick and choose what to obey out of the many many divine commands of your God. .

dalaman:


Same reason I'll also give as to why fornication is also bad. For your my own protection. Common sense, reason and the society as a whole is my own source of morality. It is also your own source of morality because the bible approves of rape for example but you don't because your society disapproves of it. You only use God but there are many many things that your God commands that are very evil that even you will NOT try to money them. . As a Christian you ONLY pick and choose what to obey out of the many many divine commands of your God. .

As per Fornication, can't you use male/female condoms. Both of you can even use it simultaneously reducing even the risk by more than 100,000%.

The bible approves of rape!?
I see you have read it very well to come to that conclusion.

What has God commanded me to do that you think I will refuse to obey?

shadeyinka:

As per Fornication, can't you use male/female condoms. Both of you can even use it simultaneously reducing even the risk by more than 100,000%.

The bible approves of rape!?
I see you have read it very well to come to that conclusion.

What has God commanded me to do that you think I will refuse to obey?

That means you gave false reason. I need an objective reason as to why fornication is wrong using condoms. State your objective reasons.

The bible says if a person rapes a woman he is to pay some amount of money to her dad and he must marry her.

The bible says you should stone to death your disobedient kids, you are not to take each other to court, you are to stone to death your daughters that are not virgin's. If some one slaps you, turn the other cheek. If hevtales your shirt give him your coat. You don't do any of those. .

I am not surprised, just like your father the devil you always twist the scriptures to mean what is truely a lie

You said:

The bible approves of rape!?

ap·proved; ap·prov·ing
transitive verb
1 : to have or express a favorable opinion of couldn't approve such conduct
2 a : to accept as satisfactory hopes she will approve the date of the meeting
b : to give formal or official sanction (see 1sanction) to : ratify Congress approved the proposed budget.
3 obsolete : prove, attest
intransitive verb
: to take a favorable view doesn't approve of fighting

In spite of your lies and attempt to misinform, I will still make a comment on your insinuation.

dalaman:


That means you gave false reason. I need an objective reason as to why fornication is wrong using condoms. State your objective reasons.

Spiritually Transmitted Diseases cannot be prevented with condoms

dalaman:

The bible says if a person rapes a woman he is to pay some amount of money to her dad and he must marry her.

The man must take up the responsibility of the woman BUT the woman nor her father is not obliged to marry the man. 50shekel of silver is approximately 200days wages in addition to perpetual responsibility of upkeep of the woman
2Sam13:20 (Tamar did not marry Amnon)

Because of people like you will misinterprete the seriousness of rape we have:

Deuteronomy 22:23-24 (when the girl did not resist)
Deuteronomy 22:25-27 (when the girl is forced)

dalaman:

The bible says you should stone to death your disobedient kids, you are not to take each other to court, you are to stone to death your daughters that are not virgin's. You don't do any of those. .

This occurs only when the parent chooses to give up this evil child of theirs for eviction from this world.
The laws are a strong deterrent to violation of the code of peaceful existence.

But that being said, Unfortunately for you, I live under another law.

dalaman:

If some one slaps you, turn the other cheek. If hevtales your shirt give him your coat.

You by this admit that I live under a higher law that you cannot comprehend. And who told you I don't do it?
And what is evil about not taking a revenge?

jesusjnr:


https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2019/october/atheist-richard-dawkins-getting-rid-of-god-would-make-world-less-moral?amp

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ending-religion-is-a-bad-idea-says-richard-dawkins-sqqdbmcpq#

With the Momentary Changes before our very eyes in Technologies, Electricity and Electronics, we need standard Code of Behavior.

orisa37:




With the Momentary Changes before our very eyes in Technologies, Electricity and Electronics, we need standard Code of Behavior.

Otherwise the World will manipulate some kinds of ISIS to bamboozle us.

shadeyinka:
I am not surprised, just like your father the devil you always twist the scriptures to mean what is truely a lie

You said:



ap·proved; ap·prov·ing
transitive verb
1 : to have or express a favorable opinion of couldn't approve such conduct
2 a : to accept as satisfactory hopes she will approve the date of the meeting
b : to give formal or official sanction (see 1sanction) to : ratify Congress approved the proposed budget.
3 obsolete : prove, attest
intransitive verb
: to take a favorable view doesn't approve of fighting

In spite of your lies and attempt to misinform, I will still make a comment on your insinuation.

Moses told the Men to keep virgins for themselves after they invaded their cities and kill off all the non virgins. Hope you know that any sexual activity with them is rape. Imagine invaders invading your towns killing your parents. Will you willingly wajt to have sex with them?

Spiritually Transmitted Diseases cannot be prevented with condoms

What am I to do with your fictional tales? Spiritual transmitted diseases ? Keep your fables to yourself..provide objective reasons why fornication btw two consenting adults with condom is wring not this nonsense fable talk of yours that has no basis in reality.

The man must take up the responsibility of the woman BUT the woman nor her father is not obliged to marry the man. 50shekel of silver is approximately 200days wages in addition to perpetual responsibility of upkeep of the woman
2Sam13:20 (Tamar did not marry Amnon)

Because of people like you will misinterprete the seriousness of rape we have:

Deuteronomy 22:23-24 (when the girl did not resist)
Deuteronomy 22:25-27 (when the girl is forced)

Bla bla bla. Will you allow a rapist to marry your daughter if he pays you 200 days of his wages and promises to take care of her? Will YOU allow that? Just tell me if you will allow it let me know how sincere you are. .

This occurs only when the parent chooses to give up this evil child of theirs for eviction from this world.
The laws are a strong deterrent to violation of the code of peaceful existence.

But that being said, Unfortunately for you, I live under another law.

Will you keep quiet. It was a commandment that was issued by Yahweh. They were to stone to death their disobedient children. Will you stone your disobedient kids? Even Jesus berated the people for failing to stone to death their disobedient kids in the new testament. Jesus said he did not come to abolish the law of prophets. You dont live under any law you just pick and choose what to follow.

You by this admit that I live under a higher law that you cannot comprehend. And who told you I don't do it?
And what is evil about not taking a revenge?

I am putting it to you that you will NOT do it. If someone unjustly slaps you, you will NEVER turn the other cheek you will fight back, if thief comes and take your shirt you won't give him your coat..you will go and call the police on him. . You will NOT do it stop telling lies. . If a Christian does you wrong you will go and report him to the authorities and seek justice, instead of taking the person to the church as the bible says. You won't do all these things, don't even start telling lies. . .

dalaman:


Moses told the Men to keep virgins for themselves after they invaded their cities and kill off all the non virgins. Hope you know that any sexual activity with them is rape. Imagine invaders invading your towns killing your parents. Will you willingly wajt to have sex with them?




What am I to do with your fictional tales? Spiritual transmitted diseases ? Keep your fables to yourself..provide objective reasons why fornication btw two consenting adults with condom is wring not this nonsense fable talk of yours that has no basis in reality.




Bla bla bla. Will you allow a rapist to marry your daughter if he pays you 200 days of his wages and promises to take care of her? Will YOU allow that? Just tell me if you will allow it let me know how sincere you are. .




Will you keep quiet. It was a commandment that was issued by Yahweh. They were to stone to death their disobedient children. Will you stone your disobedient kids? Even Jesus berated the people for failing to stone to death their disobedient kids in the new testament. Jesus said he did not come to abolish the law of prophets. You dont live under any law you just pick and choose what to follow.




I am putting it to you that you will NOT do it. If someone unjustly slaps you, you will NEVER turn the other cheek you will fight back, if thief comes and take your shirt you won't give him your coat..you will go and call the police on him. . You will NOT do it stop telling lies. . If a Christian does you wrong you will go and report him to the authorities and seek justice, instead of taking the person to the church as the bible says. You won't do all these things, don't even start telling lies. . .

For a comprehension below normal average, I'm amazed at your so much nonsense!

Lmao!!! Spiritual transmitted diseases.

Wetin Musa no go see for gate.

Cc. Dalaman

shadeyinka:

For a comprehension below normal average, I'm amazed at your so much nonsense!

As usual you are empty. You have nothing reasonable to say, just empty religious noise because you want to defend ancient primitive fables and superstitions.

You talk of NONSENSE like spiritual transmitted diseases,,yet it is others that are typing nonsense? Delusion will not kill you oo. .

tintingz:
Lmao!!! Spiritual transmitted diseases.

Wetin Musa no go see for gate.

Cc. Dalaman

The deluded man says I was talking nonsense after I made rubbish of his useless points. How can someone that talks of spiritual transmitted diseases ever say that another person is talking nonsense? What can be more nonsensical than spiritual transmitted diseases??

dalaman:


The deluded man says I was talking nonsense after I made rubbish of his useless points. How can someone that talks of spiritual transmitted diseases ever say that another person is talking nonsense? What can be more nonsensical than spiritual transmitted diseases??

This weewee man, where have you been?

dalaman:


As usual you are empty. You have nothing reasonable to say, just empty religious noise because you want to defend ancient primitive fables and superstitions.

You talk of NONSENSE like spiritual transmitted diseases,,yet it is others that are typing nonsense? Delusion will not kill you oo. .

Like a blind bat fluttering aimlessly in a one window room.
SMH!

MrPresident1:


This weewee man, where have you been?

I dey my brother. .

dalaman:


The deluded man says I was talking nonsense after I made rubbish of his useless points. How can someone that talks of spiritual transmitted diseases ever say that another person is talking nonsense? What can be more nonsensical than spiritual transmitted diseases??

Hahahahahaha so much delusion.

For those that say we get our morality from the Bible. .

The delusion of those who think that recycling old arguments makes them new.

Maybe Richard Dawkins whose life-long arguments against religion had made him the world most famous atheist, all of a sudden became ignorant of such things, when he yet openly admitted to the world that the world would be worse of without religion. SMH

Maybe these ones are aspiring to take over from him after he dies, so that when they are old as well if not much earlier they would also admit this glaring truth.

The truth is that what happened to Richard Dawkins is the perfect definition of the fact that the truth cannot be concealed or suppressed forever, but it shall surely come to the fore.

God bless.