Thanks to God for ending the Nigerian Civil War and uniting Nigeria again. Kudos to the elders that saw to the peaceful resolution of Nigeria.
The South-East lost many or almost everything during the civil war: these include: education, businesses, career, wealth, people, peace and so on; but with perseverance, diligence, hardwork, dedication and so on, it is now one of the prosperous regions who have met up with the education, businesses, wealth, career and people in Nigeria. It is also doing well in other aspects of life. It is also an oviously rich region.

Thanks to God for such.

Lesson: Never give up, you can rise again.

They reduced us to zero now we have build ourself as they are struggling to compete with us. ��

,Me,l didn't see any process of improving or becoming stronger again.Compare your region to others.

Here is the lesson of the civil war: Wars are easy to start...almost impossible to end without serious blood shed.

For those clamoring for another civil war, I hope you are more than ready to shed your blood and those of your families and friends.

Igbos are no longer Biafrans but Nigerians. They should be treated as such. This is why I support an Igbo presidency. Unfortunately, Igbos are not very good in politics. It would be beautiful if Igbos can get a Tinubu-like political figure. Igbos should send someone like Peter Obi to go and learn politics under Tinubu for like 5 years.

YungMillionaire:
Here is the lesson of the civil war: Wars are easy to start...almost impossible to end without serious blood shed.

For those clamoring for another civil war, I hope you are more than ready to shed your blood and those of your families and friends.

Who is clamoring for another war? Please educate me.

YungMillionaire:
Igbos are no longer Biafrans but Nigerians. They should be treated as such. This is why I support an Igbo presidency. Unfortunately, Igbos are not very good in politics. It would be beautiful if Igbos can get a Tinubu-like political figure. Igbos should send someone like Peter Obi to go and learn politics under Tinubu for like 5 years.

Igbos are not good in politics yet they have been elected in so many countries outside of Nigeria. More than all other ethnicities combined.

horsepower101:


Igbos are not good in politics yet they have been elected in so many countries outside of Nigeria. More than all other ethnicities combined.

That is true. I know of one Igbo chap who was even mentioned as a possible UK prime Minister. The day the British Royal family decide its time for a black PM, that guy will enter with no problem. There are also a couple in Canada and local politicians in the US. Guy all politics is fvckery but Nigerian politics is an epic level of fvckery. Igbos are not good at Nigerian politics.

YungMillionaire:


That is true. I know of one Igbo chap who was even mentioned as a possible UK prime Minister. The day the British Royal family decide its time for a black PM, that guy will enter with no problem. There are also a couple in Canada and local politicians in the US. Guy all politics is fvckery but Nigerian politics is an epic level of fvckery. Igbos are not good at Nigerian politics.

Igbos thrive when the politics is civil and lack tribalism.

Igbos will always struggle in Nigerian National politics because IGBOPHOBIA is woven into every aspect of it.

horsepower101:


Igbos thrive when the politics is civil and lack tribalism.

Igbos will always struggle in Nigerian National politics because IGBOPHOBIA is woven into every aspect of it.

Where in the world is politics 'civil and lack tribalism?' Are you talking of this planet or another one?

horsepower101:


Who is clamoring for another war? Please educate me.

You know what I am talking about. Stop pretending.

YungMillionaire:


Where in the world is politics 'civil and lack tribalism?' Are you talking of this planet or another one?

No I am talking of all the countries that exist on this planet earth where igbos are extreme minorities yet elected into various positions. They do exist. Lol

[quote author=YungMillionaire post=84097224]Igbos are no longer Biafrans but Nigerians. They should be treated as such. This is why I support an Igbo presidency. Unfortunately, Igbos are not very good in politics. It would be beautiful if Igbos can get a Tinubu-like political figure. Igbos should send someone like Peter Obi to go and learn politics under Tinubu for like 5 years.[/quote
Igbos are not good in politics but they ocupied all strategic political positions before the war or in 60's . I would say Igbos lost everything including political control of Nigeria due to civil and the Hausa fulanis also helped to render Igbos politically redundant based on the structure for fear of another Igbo domination. Igbos are very good in anything including politics that is why they excel in every human endeavor as evident in civilised world where this is rule of law and level playing ground for every one . Igbos occupy more strategic political positions outside Nigeria than any other ethnic up in Nigeria.

horsepower101:


No I am talking of all the countries that exist on this planet earth where igbos are extreme minorities yet elected into various positions. They do exist. Lol

And you say the politics in those countries are 'civil and lack tribalism.' Is that right?

YungMillionaire:


And you say the politics in those countries are 'civil and lack tribalism.' Is that right?

Human beings are tribal in nature but those countries are extremely less tribalistic in their mentality.

They care more about your merits than they care about your origin.

Of course I am speaking in general terms.

YungMillionaire:


You know what I am talking about. Stop pretending.

I know people are calling for referendum but have never heard anyone call for war.

horsepower101:

Human beings are tribal in nature but those countries are extremely less tribalistic in their mentality.
They care more about your merits than they care about your origin.
Of course I am speaking in general terms.

Because I was about to lecture you on the unprintable names Obama and his family were called in US. The horrific attacks directed towards immigrants all in the name of Brexit in the UK. Even the current American president rose to office by racially attacking Obama. So please there is nothing like 'civil and lack tribalism' politics ANYWHERE in the world.

Now, I agree with you that due to history there is general inherent bias against Igbos (especially in the North). However, even some Igbos are not helping matters by their utterances.

Let me ask you a very straight forward question (and please give me the honest answer):

Who is the most prominent Igbo person in the news in the last 5 to 7 years (be honest)?

horsepower101:


I know people are calling for referendum but have never heard anyone call for war.

Referendum to do what? If I may ask?

YungMillionaire:


Because I was about to lecture you on the unprintable names Obama and his family were called in US. The horrific attacks directed towards immigrants all in the name of Brexit in the UK. Even the current American president rose to office by racially attacking Obama. So please there is nothing like 'civil and lack tribalism' politics ANYWHERE in the world.

Now, I agree with you that due to history there is general inherent bias against Igbos (especially in the North). However, even some Igbos are not helping matters by their utterances.

Let me ask you a very straight forward question (and please give me the honest answer):

Who is the most prominent Igbo person in the news in the last 5 to 7 years (be honest)?

Prominent means important or famous.

Going by this definition, I will say Nnamdi Kanu.

YungMillionaire:


Referendum to do what? If I may ask?

To democratically let people to decide their future political and/or economic future.

horsepower101:


Prominent means important or famous.

Going by this definition, I will say Nnamdi Kanu.

Gbam. This guy Kanu (in my humble opinion) is single-handely destroying all the good will that generations of Igbos have garnered for the SE for decades. I still remember growing up when your hear the word Igbo - people say things like business, Onyeka Onwenu, Papillo, Okocha, Sam Okwaraji ,Iwanyanwu national etc, Even as recently as the early 2000s Psquare and Brackett...Now, when you say Igbo the next thing people say is Biafra and Nnamdi Kanu...tell me do you honestly think this is good for Igbos in Nigeria?

horsepower101:


To democratically let people to decide their future political and/or economic future.

In other words: To carve out another country from the sovereign nation of Nigeria. Am I right?

YungMillionaire:


Gbam. This guy Kanu (in my humble opinion) is single-handely destroying all the good will that generations of Igbos have garnered for the SE for decades. I still remember growing up when your hear the word Igbo - people say things like business, Onyeka Onwenu, Papillo, Okocha, Sam Okwaraji ,Iwanyanwu national etc, Even as recently as the early 2000s Psquare and Brackett...Now, when you say Igbo the next thing people say is Biafra and Nnamdi Kanu...tell me do you honestly think this is good for Igbos in Nigeria?

If they so much love igbos before Nnamdi Kanu, why haven’t igbos been president for over 50 years since the civil war ended.

What’s the excuse for the decades of infrastructural and political marginalization that we have been facing before IPOB and nnamdi Kanu.

Actions speaks louder than words and the people that you claim used to like you also marginalized you politically and economically even before nnamdi Kanu arrived.

What is the point of of getting praises as from people that don’t want your success going by their HISTORICAL actions.

YungMillionaire:


In other words: To carve out another country from the sovereign nation of Nigeria. Am I right?

Yes. Potentially if the majority of voters agrees in the referendum which is legal and backed by the UN which Nigeria is a signatory of.

So there is no illegality so far.

horsepower101:


If they so much love igbos before Nnamdi Kanu, why haven’t igbos been president for over 50 years since the civil war ended.

What’s the excuse for the decades of infrastructural and political marginalization that we have been facing before IPOB and nnamdi Kanu.

Actions speaks louder than words and the people that you claim used to like you also marginalized you politically and economically even before nnamdi Kanu arrived.

What is the point of of getting praises as from people that don’t want your success going by their HISTORICAL actions.

Guy you talk like you don't know how complicated Nigeria is. Remember when the Yorubas tried to elect their first civilian president (what happened to MKO?) What happened when GEJ (an Ijaw man) wanted to get in? Do you remember this short history? Secondly, many Nigerians underestimate the psychological trauma that was inflicted on this country not only by the civil war but all the bloody events that led up to it. It takes time for trust to be restored even among brothers from the same mother. Political power in Nigeria goes through the North. Its painful but true. Already, the generation that still remember the civil war are dying off, making it almost the best time for Igbos to take their rightful place in Nigerian politics. But lo and behold Kanu/Ipobism reared his ugly head calling Nigeria zoo (which in the North is interpreted as Northerners are cows - trust me on this) and Kanu/IPOB calling Buhari (perhaps the MOST popular politician in Northern Nigeria of all time maybe second to Balewa) all manner of unprintable names. Kanu/Ipob are ONLY doing one thing: telling Nigerians do not trust Igbos. Their singular goal is the Balkanization of Nigeria. Now, even this interpretation is unfair but as every smart person knows: PERCEPTION IS REALITY. Kanu cannot be the face of Igbo people.

horsepower101:


Yes. Potentially if the majority of voters agrees in the referendum which is legal and backed by the UN which Nigeria is a signatory of.

So there is no illegality so far.

1. Granting referendum is tantamount to saying Nigeria's sovereignty is negotiable. Which is contrary to the oath taken by Nigerian office holders and the mandate of the Nigeria military. 2. It is not a matter of illegality. It is a matter of what message are you (as Igbos) passing to your fellow Nigerians. If you demand Biafra then that means you are not Nigerians. If you are not Nigerians then how can you be trusted to do good by Nigerians?

Lastly just because a referendum is legal does not mean a country has to allow it. Otherwise California and Texas would have had one to separate from America. No American state is leaving the US without a war. The same thing applies to Nigeria. This is the reality. All that stuff you might read on UN website is theory.

oyebanji44:
,Me,l didn't see any process of improving or becoming stronger again.Compare your region to others.

But of course you wouldn’t! You’re a Igbo hating bigot remember?

A thread is opened, where someone is patting his people on the back for surmounting most of the obstacles placed in their path from the uncivil war to date. At no point did he mention you or your ethnicity. But you just couldn’t help yourself....you fell into the thread pronto...with your bile and bitterness, since anything Igbo just drives you mad!

YungMillionaire:


1. Granting referendum is tantamount to saying Nigeria's sovereignty is negotiable. Which is contrary to the oath taken by Nigerian office holders and the mandate of the Nigeria military. 2. It is not a matter of illegality. It is a matter of what message are you (as Igbos) passing to your fellow Nigerians. If you demand Biafra then that means you are not Nigerians. If you are not Nigerians then how can you be trusted to do good by Nigerians?

Lastly just because a referendum is legal does not mean a country has to allow it. Otherwise California and Texas would have had one to separate from America. No American state is leaving the US without a war. The same thing applies to Nigeria. This is the reality. All that stuff you might read on UN website is theory.

I will summarize by saying that just because Nigeria will respond with threats of war and other inhumane acts doesn’t mean that those calling for referendum are asking for war.

If Nigeria doesn’t want to break up, then it needs to start doing things that will make its citizen want to stay.

The bare minimum is restructuring and resource control. Let Nigeria start from there.

YungMillionaire:


1. Granting referendum is tantamount to saying Nigeria's sovereignty is negotiable. Which is contrary to the oath taken by Nigerian office holders and the mandate of the Nigeria military. 2. It is not a matter of illegality. It is a matter of what message are you (as Igbos) passing to your fellow Nigerians. If you demand Biafra then that means you are not Nigerians. If you are not Nigerians then how can you be trusted to do good by Nigerians?

Lastly just because a referendum is legal does not mean a country has to allow it. Otherwise California and Texas would have had one to separate from America. No American state is leaving the US without a war. The same thing applies to Nigeria. This is the reality. All that stuff you might read on UN website is theory.

You make the gravest of errors if you think whatever applies to the United States also applies to your Nigeria!

If the unity and territorial integrity of Nigeria is none-negotiable as you posit...is cast in stone....and is constant like the northern star, then pray tell, how comes you gave up Bakassi without a shot!

You lot like to form Rambo only where Igbos are concerned!

YungMillionaire:


Guy you talk like you don't know how complicated Nigeria is. Remember when the Yorubas tried to elect their first civilian president (what happened to MKO?) What happened when GEJ (an Ijaw man) wanted to get in? Do you remember this short history? Secondly, many Nigerians underestimate the psychological trauma that was inflicted on this country not only by the civil war but all the bloody events that led up to it. It takes time for trust to be restored even among brothers from the same mother. Political power in Nigeria goes through the North. Its painful but true. Already, the generation that still remember the civil war are dying off, making it almost the best time for Igbos to take their rightful place in Nigerian politics. But lo and behold Kanu/Ipobism reared his ugly head calling Nigeria zoo (which in the North is interpreted as Northerners are cows - trust me on this) and Kanu/IPOB calling Buhari (perhaps the MOST popular politician in Northern Nigeria of all time maybe second to Balewa) all manner of unprintable names. Kanu/Ipob are ONLY doing one thing: telling Nigerians do not trust Igbos. Their singular goal is the Balkanization of Nigeria. Now, even this interpretation is unfair but as every smart person knows: PERCEPTION IS REALITY. Kanu cannot be the face of Igbo people.

The problem I have with your way of reasoning is that you are seeking acceptance from Nigerians. I stopped doing that years ago.

If you are igbo, (which I think you are), your existence alone is already a problem for people who hate you.

Whether you accept this fact or not is up to you.

One day you will come to the realization that I came to. Don’t let outwardly smiles deceive you.

Actions is what I use to judge people and the actions of my so called countrymen towards me is what I use to judge the country.

IGBOSON1:


You make the gravest of errors if you think whatever applies to the United States also applies to your Nigeria!

If the unity and territorial integrity of Nigeria is none-negotiable as you posit...is cast in stone....and is constant like the northern star, then pray tell, how comes you gave up Bakassi without a shot!

You lot like to form Rambo only where Igbos are concerned!

The ceding of Bakassi was entirely a Geo-political move. Obasanjo was working tirelessly to manage Nigeria's debt (France was one of the major holders). France wanted Cameroon to have it - Shekinah. If you know you know.
Now, if Kanu/Ipob is able to convince China (China is currently Nigeria's single biggest economic partner) that Biafra should be actualized THEN there is a very good chance that Biafra will come. Otherwise (if Igbos declare Biafra without any major/crucial international backing) na war.
I do not want war. Because I do not like seeing dead bodies and blood all over the place. Now since you will not get China's (or any other major countries backing) here is the reality: You cannot get referendum and if you declare Biafra you are declaring war

horsepower101:


The problem I have with your way of reasoning is that you are seeking acceptance from Nigerians. I stopped doing that years ago.

If you are igbo, (which I think you are), your existence alone is already a problem for people who hate you.

Whether you accept this fact or not is up to you.

One day you will come to the realization that I came to. Don’t let outwardly smiles deceive you.

Actions is what I use to judge people and the actions of my so called countrymen towards me is what I use to judge the country.

I am from Delta (Itshekiri). I have lived all over this country. SW (Lagos/Ijebu Ode), SE (Onitsha/Owerri), NC (Jos), and briefly NW and NE. And of course Delta state. Every tribe experience tribalism in Nigeria. And I do not believe (based on my experience) that Nigerians hate Igbos or Yorubas or Hausas or Fulani or Deltans etc. Because who are these Nigerians? Are they not Igbos themselves? If you threw a stone in any non-SE major city in Nigeria chances are you are more likely to hit an Emeka or Chibuzor than any other non-indigene. Yes, tribes are suspicious of one another but this suspicion is not only directed toward Igbos. Its everybody. Go to Warri and see tribal beef. The reason why Igbos think that they are targets is because you guys are the most traveled within Nigeria. Hence you are more likely to be in the fore-front of the cultural/tribal brouhaha than other tribes. In my opinion, instead of seeing this as a negative, Igbos should see it as a positive. Do something constructive with this widespread interaction. Now where is the major challenge for Igbos in Nigeria in terms of politics? The North. Now, how do Igbos address this political challenge? by answering this simple question:

Why do you think Hausa/Fulanis (who do not trust Yorubas any more than they trust Igbos) are more comfortable in general (keyword is in general) with Yorubas than Igbos? If you know the honest answer to this question then you will understand what the next generation of Igbo politicians must do to succeed in national politics.