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Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by MetaPhysical: 11:14pm On Nov 17, 2019
UdechiHD:
Nothing like Biafra. It died in 1970!
Alex Ekwueme was Vice Presdent 10 years after the civil war. Our father, Ojukwu contested election for Presidency and was given a national burial when he died.
Kanu, Onwuaka and Uwazuruike and all upcoming fake freedom fighter are all enemies of Ndigbo. They are political drawback to Ndigbo in Nigeria. What the Igbo's want is Presidency, 6 states to be at par with other zones, fairness, justice and other inputs that the National conference report highlighted.

Thank you jare!

To Biafran warlords...
All over the world, when a civil war ends, the leadership of the loosing rebellion are court marshaled, found guilty, sentenced to death and summarily executed. The rebel group is also financially obligated to reparate the victor for its war costs and losses. This is the practice...a military tradition adhered to around the globe.

In Nigeria, we were an exception to the rule. Biafran leadership were reabsorbed into military and then retired, with gratuities as if they had never commited any crime against the Sovereingty. Those in civil service were reabsorbed and returned to their wage scale.
As already mentioned, an Igboman became second in command of the Sovereingty in less than ten years after the war. Igbos properties and markets were returned to them and your liberty to work and earn was never censored afterward.

Now you want to risk it all and return to rebellion. You will loose again....but your leaders this time around will all be executed and there will be no placard reading "No Victor, No Vanquished"!

Get sense...
Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by Nobody: 11:20pm On Nov 17, 2019
MetaPhysical:


Thank you jare!

To Biafran warlords...
All over the world, when a civil war ends, the leadership of the loosing rebellion are court marshaled, found guilty, sentenced to death and summarily executed. The rebel group is also financially obligated to reparate the victor for its war costs and losses. This is the practice...a military tradition adhered to around the globe.

In Nigeria, we were an exception to the rule. Biafran leadership were reabsorbed into military and then retired, with gratuities as if they had never commited any crime against the Sovereingty. Those in civil service were reabsorbed and returned to their wage scale.
As already mentioned, an Igboman became second in command of the Sovereingty in less than ten years after the war. Igbos properties and markets were returned to them and your liberty to work and earn was never censored afterward.

Now you want to risk it all and return to rebellion. You will loose again....but your leaders this time around will all be executed and there will be no placard reading "No Victor, No Vanquished"!

Get sense...
Gowon declared 'No victor No vanquished'. Everyone was forgiven. However the 3R wasn't really carried out in the east after the war.
This is why Stella Oduah is bringing it up now. Nigerians need to support the SEDC in order to foster unity and true reconciliation in the SE.
Metaphysical don't you think so?
Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by kettykin: 11:21pm On Nov 17, 2019
UdechiHD:
Trash. Kettykin don't you have better things to do with your time. What is the correlation of this useless topic with the issues on ground?
Stop attending IPOB meetings you won't hear. Always bringing up irrelevant topics that disparage Ndigbo. You and your likes should find a life.
No one made you people our guardians.

i only picked an article written in vanguard and posted on Nairaland , i forgot to put disclaimer , i am of the opinion that igbos should keep their minds open and put on their thinking cap, if Nigeria , africa's soviet union survives the post oil era , then good and fine , if it does not then igbos have a back up plan .

Igbos should never be found with out a plan B as it happened in 1960, Nigeria is not yet defined, during the presidential elections of 2011, 2015, and 2019 we all saw how igbos were attacked in the north and lagos with lives and properties destroyed , igbos should have a plan B and a pay back plan for any eventuality

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Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by Nobody: 11:29pm On Nov 17, 2019
kettykin:


i only picked an article written in vanguard and posted on Nairaland , i forgot to put disclaimer , i am of the opinion that igbos should keep their minds open and put on their thinking cap, if Nigeria , africa's soviet union survives the post oil era , then good and fine , if it does not then igbos have a back up plan .

Igbos should never be found with out a plan B as it happened in 1960, Nigeria is not yet defined, during the presidential elections of 2011, 2015, and 2019 we all saw how igbos were attacked in the north and lagos with lives and properties destroyed , igbos should have a plan B and a pay back plan for any eventuality
Having a plan B is good, so that we don't get caught unawares. But I think while on that plan B, Ndigbo needs to put more efforts on their plan A.
Nigeria is not breaking any sooner, not even in the next 70 years. This is because all other tribes are only interested on us pushing it and at the end scapegoat us when things goes wrong. This has happened before and many of you seem to be forgetting so fast.
Many tribes won't mind using such fallout as an excuse to take our place in the scheme of things.
Now on that note, is it not better seeing how our tribe is always at the receiving end, to fight for our right in this country. Do not forget we are the 3rd tripod that hold this nation. But overtime we don't act as one and are losing relevance in the decision making in this country.
Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by MetaPhysical: 11:30pm On Nov 17, 2019
UdechiHD:
Gowon declared 'No victor No vanquished'. Everyone was forgiven. However the 3R wasn't really carried out in the east after the war.
This is why Stella Oduah is bringing it up now. Nigerians need to support the SEDC in order to foster unity and true reconciliation in the SE.

I would love SE to create and self manage its own Development Commission and not accept one from FG. Any Development Commission funded by FG remain a national institution even though it carries a regional identity. Every State in SW is a equity partner in Oodua Investment Corporation. OIC is in top 3 wealthiest Corporations in Nigeria. SE can do same. You can syndicate importation of goods designated for SE, you can also syndicate distribution of goods to Igbo retail markets around Nigeria, West Africa and SA. A self-managed SE Investment Corp can do all that and invest capital development in each SE State to boost employment, production and revenue. Go and look at OIC market footprints, Yoruba did not wait for FG to give it a SWDC, it raised its own independently.

Stella Oduah's efforts should be praised in that regard but do you want to wait for handouts from FG in order to grow?

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Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by MetaPhysical: 11:37pm On Nov 17, 2019
kettykin:


i only picked an article written in vanguard and posted on Nairaland , i forgot to put disclaimer , i am of the opinion that igbos should keep their minds open and put on their thinking cap, if Nigeria , africa's soviet union survives the post oil era , then good and fine , if it does not then igbos have a back up plan .

Igbos should never be found with out a plan B as it happened in 1960, Nigeria is not yet defined, during the presidential elections of 2011, 2015, and 2019 we all saw how igbos were attacked in the north and lagos with lives and properties destroyed , igbos should have a plan B and a pay back plan for any eventuality

The attack in Lagos is not unique to Igbo.
In 1964, 1979, 1983, Yorubas killed each other over political turfs.

Politics in Nigeria is interwoven with violence and fatality, it knows no brother and is all about camps. Yorubas can share many stories with you of brothers with same parental roots violently attacking each other and ending in hospitals over politics.
Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by Nobody: 11:38pm On Nov 17, 2019
MetaPhysical:


I would love SE to create and self manage its own Development Commission and not accept one from FG. Any Development Commission funded by FG remain a national institution even though it carries a regional identity. Every State in SW is a equity partner in Oodua Investment Corporation. OIC is in top 3 wealthiest Corporations in Nigeria. SE can do same. You can syndicate importation of goods designated for SE, you can also syndicate distribution of goods to Igbo retail markets around Nigeria, West Africa and SA. A self-managed SE Investment Corp can do all that and invest capital development in each SE State to boost employment, production and revenue. Go and look at OIC market footprints, Yoruba did not wait for FG to give it a SWDC, it raised its own independently.

Stella Oduah's efforts should be praised in that regard but do you want to wait for handouts from FG in order to grow?
Such would have been possible had we still had the regions. But regions don't exist anymore.
The SE leaders who supported the NEDC for the NE feel that a commission that will address the post civil war neglect in Igboland should also be formed too. One good thing about the Odua group is it comprise, the Western region after the Midwest was created. It has always served the Yoruba's.
Unlike the Eastern region whose assets where not equitably shared amongst the old east before the civil war. Up till now, no consensus has come up to do so. Every SE state plus Rivers and Crossrivers now independently owns any post war surviving asset domiciled in their area that was once owned by the eastern regional government. The federal government I must confess helped in this disorderliness.
Now, the reason why the IPOB apologist are gaining ground in the SE is because of the infrastructural neglect the east suffered post civil war. The SE has a right to this claim and such commission will foster a sense of belonging in the minds of our people.
Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by kettykin: 11:45pm On Nov 17, 2019
MetaPhysical:


The attack in Lagos is not unique to Igbo.
In 1964, 1979, 1983, Yorubas killed each other over political turfs.

Politics in Nigeria is interwoven with violence and fatality, it knows no brother and is all about camps. Yorubas can share many stories with you of brothers with same parental roots violently attacking each other and ending in hospitals over politics.


you might be right about yorubas attacking yorubas but igbos have witnessed such attacks from the North and igbos who did not have a plan B lost everything including their lives with no arrests or justice coming their way , while praying that peace reign in the whole country , igbos will deem it wise to have a second plan more like a spare tyre should the first plan not work according to plan

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Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by MetaPhysical: 12:21am On Nov 18, 2019
UdechiHD:
Such would have been possible had we still had the regions. But regions don't exist anymore.
The SE leaders who supported the NEDC for the NE feel that a commission that will address the post civil war neglect in Igboland should also be formed too. One good thing about the Odua group is it comprise, the Western region after the Midwest was created. It has always served the Yoruba's.
Unlike the Eastern region whose assets where not equitably shared amongst the old east before the civil war. Up till now, no consensus has come up to do so. Every SE state plus Rivers and Crossrivers now independently owns any post war surviving asset domiciled in their area that was once owned by the eastern regional government. The federal government I must confess helped in this disorderliness.
Now, the reason why the IPOB apologist are gaining ground in the SE is because of the infrastructural neglect the east suffered post civil war. The SE has a right to this claim and such commission will foster a sense of belonging in the minds of our people.

I am not sure you read my post earlier about a military tradition of executing leaderships of rebellion and civil wars.

You had no right to anything...Gowon and Awolowo were more than gracious to return to you what you got and also for breaking tradition with global Best Practice to execute your leadership. Are you blind to military coups in Nigeria? What do they do to failed plotters? You were very lucky indeed!

Rights and equities in Nigeria is fluid. Ijaws were heavily grieved and used militancy to disrupt the political landscape. If it wasn't for Obasanjo Jonathan would never had become a VP, much more a President. But since then Ijaw see themselves in a different political limelight than previously. This is the power of ethnocracy. Fulani is a demographic minority but military self-interest catapulted them into political power and now they view themselves differently. Igbo must find its own magic route to power so you can view yourselves differently. The militancy that worked for others may not work for you. The political intrigues that works successfully for Yoruba may not work for you. The military hierarchy advantage that worked for Fulani may not work for you. You have to find your own comparative advantage that will get you into power and with an outcome that secures your equitable hold into the future, past your reign as President.

Biafra will work against you, not in your favor. Your rights is not more trampled than anyone else's....they are bold and daring to do what you are unprepared, or negligent to do.
Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by MetaPhysical: 12:24am On Nov 18, 2019
kettykin:


you might be right about yorubas attacking yorubas but igbos have witnessed such attacks from the North and igbos who did not have a plan B lost everything including their lives with no arrests or justice coming their way , while praying that peace reign in the whole country , igbos will deem it wise to have a second plan more like a spare tyre should the first plan now worl according to plan

Hausas kill each other for politics as well. Fulanis kill each other for politics. Are you in Nigeria at all? You have never heard of Northerners laying siege to a neighborhood in their own walled city and almost wiping out whole place because they refuse to support a particular political candidate?

Of course, Plan B is always good to have.
Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by Kennyswagzz: 1:05am On Nov 18, 2019
Biagra that is a landlocked countrygringrin.. what concerns border closure with a landlocked country?gringrin
Lmaogringrin

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Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by Nobody: 3:32am On Nov 18, 2019
MetaPhysical:


I am not sure you read my post earlier about a military tradition of executing leaderships of rebellion and civil wars.

You had no right to anything...Gowon and Awolowo were more than gracious to return to you what you got and also for breaking tradition with global Best Practice to execute your leadership. Are you blind to military coups in Nigeria? What do they do to failed plotters? You were very lucky indeed!

Rights and equities in Nigeria is fluid. Ijaws were heavily grieved and used militancy to disrupt the political landscape. If it wasn't for Obasanjo Jonathan would never had become a VP, much more a President. But since then Ijaw see themselves in a different political limelight than previously. This is the power of ethnocracy. Fulani is a demographic minority but military self-interest catapulted them into political power and now they view themselves differently. Igbo must find its own magic route to power so you can view yourselves differently. The militancy that worked for others may not work for you. The political intrigues that works successfully for Yoruba may not work for you. The military hierarchy advantage that worked for Fulani may not work for you. You have to find your own comparative advantage that will get you into power and with an outcome that secures your equitable hold into the future, past your reign as President.

Biafra will work against you, not in your favor. Your rights is not more trampled than anyone else's....they are bold and daring to do what you are unprepared, or negligent to do.
Calm down and drop that subjectivity. I'm not here to defend ethnocentric interests. So remove that toga from your mind and think like a patriot you claim to be. Unless you want to prove you're no different from the tribalist and clogs gradually killing this country. Are you a tribalist? Or even more worst than Nnamdi Kanu you always disparage?
I'm sticking to the pressing needs at hand. Today, in this country we have many hydra headed problems bedevilling this country. Fifty years ago was the civil war conflict that still breeds contempt; had we been a progressive country such things as Biafra or IPOB shouldn't be a discussion of today. But because of inequality such things still pops it's ugly head and if not well handled may breed another future war.
Today, you have the destruction of the North East happening right in our very own eyes. Although the government is doing something different with the NEDC unlike what it did in the East post civil war.
Yesterday was Biafra, today is the North East, tomorrow may be your own region. Why do you think such is recycling? It is happening because your father's and now you, glorified and supported evil. Holding a grudge against the children and unborn generation of those who knew nothing about the civil war. If you're sincere you should have understood that the north took revenge by killing Igbo officers and civilians in a progrom and still went further to vanquish 3 million. And here you are in the comfort of your room still wanting more.
No one knows the next place another conflict will shift to as I said. But karma has a way of turning the tables. You cannot beat a child and ask him not to cry. You cannot support injustice against a people and still want to ask for God's intervention in similar conditions happening in the NE.
The civil war that was fought in Nigeria, has also been fought in order countries. Rwanda and the United states etc fought civil wars. Today they live in harmony, peace and without grudges.
The Confederate states for instance saw massive infrastructural development at the end of the American civil war. In few years later they got the seat of the Presidency of the United states. Everyone in that country today enjoy that liberty and will always put their country first above all. Now, why do I use this as an example?
I used this because, the united states became more stronger after the end of that war because the progress of that country was paramount.
Rwanda too had similar problem and today both the Hutus and Tutsi are partners in a progress in a developing country that is marveling the west.
Rwanda can be said to be a united country growing in strenght because Kagame understood the meaning of lasting unity. Any country that fails to resolve such huge problem as post civil war, will always meet them at the front. It may take years but it surely hava a way of coming back more worst.
Had the Tutsi's said because they won a war, so therefore the Hutu's will be relegated and suffer for what they did. What do you think would have happen? Definitely you know what will happen.

Nigeria is an endangered country today because it didn't leverage on the aftermath of the civil war to pave a path of lasting unity and progress. Rather we sticked to hate, hate, hate!
The SEDC is a right step in a right direction. And hopefully, it will be passed into law. Anything that will foster peace and progress in this country should be supported.

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Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by 0monnak0da: 4:40am On Nov 18, 2019
Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by Nobody: 5:52am On Nov 18, 2019
UdechiHD:
Nothing like Biafra. It died in 1970!
Alex Ekwueme was Vice President 10 years after the civil war. We had Senate President in 1999-2007. Our father, Ojukwu contested election for Presidency and was given a national burial when he died. What remains is President and Ndigbo should work towards that.
Kanu, Onwuka and Uwazuruike and all upcoming fake freedom fighter are all enemies of Ndigbo. They are political drawback to Ndigbo in Nigeria. What the Igbo's want is Presidency, 6 states to be at par with other zones, fairness, justice and other inputs that the National conference report highlighted.



Oya go and get presidency.

Moreover development is at par to all zones.
Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by Nobody: 5:53am On Nov 18, 2019
MetaPhysical:


Shut up and apologize to SS for your assaults and transgressions against them, before and after the war. angry

Maybe you can apologise on my behalf because I don't know how to reply rubbish.

next
Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by Yujin(m): 8:02am On Nov 18, 2019
Lol @ metaphysical- the hatred fellow from the wasteland and UdechiHD- the impostor from same location. You guys are only amusing yourselves. Your Nigeria is dying soon and there's nothing you can do about it. Igbos and other like minded nationalities will pursue Biafra or any other country that's more promising than the shithole. We neither need your approval nor support to actualize it.

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Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by Nobody: 8:50am On Nov 18, 2019
UdechiHD:
Gowon declared 'No victor No vanquished'. Everyone was forgiven. However the 3R wasn't really carried out in the east after the war.
This is why Stella Oduah is bringing it up now. Nigerians need to support the SEDC in order to foster unity and true reconciliation in the SE.
Metaphysical don't you think so?


It is only an animal that will support SEDC.

It is a total waste of time and an avenue for greater stealing.


Oduah should focus on her Senatorial district and forget all these SE bla bla bla....


Her focus should be her district...case closed.

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Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by BeLookingIDIOT(m): 9:30am On Nov 18, 2019
Upon all your innovation you still died of hunger sad
Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by Kennyswagzz: 2:55pm On Nov 18, 2019
BeLookingIDIOT:
Upon all your innovation you still died of hunger sad
take those guys serious at your own peril..
Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by Nobody: 3:51pm On Nov 18, 2019
MelesZenawi:



[s]It is only an animal that will support SEDC.

It is a total waste of time and an avenue for greater stealing.


Oduah should focus on her Senatorial district and forget all these SE bla bla bla....


Her focus should be her district...case closed.[/s]
For one, you have no right speak on Igbo issues because you're not one. Your mission in Nairaland has been far too exposed.
Mind your business and allow Igbo people talk about what concerns them.
Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by Nobody: 3:54pm On Nov 18, 2019
Yujin:
[s]Lol @ metaphysical- the hatred fellow from the wasteland and UdechiHD- the impostor from same location. You guys are only amusing yourselves. Your Nigeria is dying soon and there's nothing you can do about it. Igbos and other like minded nationalities will pursue Biafra or any other country that's more promising than the shithole. We neither need your approval nor support to actualize it.[/s]
I give no attention to IPOB illiterates hustling oversea. Touts who want to destroy our people. Today Biafra, tomorrow PDP.
You lots either stand for something or get lost.

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Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by MetaPhysical: 4:22pm On Nov 18, 2019
Yujin :
Lol @ metaphysical- the hatred fellow from the wasteland and UdechiHD- the impostor from same location. You guys are only amusing yourselves. Your Nigeria is dying soon and there's nothing you can do about it. Igbos and other like minded nationalities will pursue Biafra or any other country that's more promising than the shithole. We neither need your approval nor support to actualize it.

This discussion is not about robbing passengers in motor park, so I do not expect an Onitsha bridge head tout will have anything of flavor to add. grin
Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by Nobody: 4:47pm On Nov 18, 2019
UdechiHD:
For one, you have no right speak on Igbo issues because you're not one. Your mission in Nairaland has been far too exposed.
Mind your business and allow Igbo people talk about what concerns them.

Lol

The accusations didn't start today but that's my point is the reality.
Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by kettykin: 5:08pm On Nov 18, 2019
0monnak0da:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGSRa6KE_rg

Gowon's speech should be taken for what it is , the same Gowon who obeyed to the last letter an agreement to give away an oil rich Peninsular but reneged on another agreement from Aburi to ensure peace reigns in Nigeria cannot be taken serious by any one . if Biafra died by the same speech of gowon then Nigeria is deemed dead by Nnamdi Kanu's Speech, after all Nigeria is loosing it citizen's on a daily basis , and has closed its borders to the world to ensure it does not implode , how then can such a country be declared alive, if it is not in coma or vegetative state.
Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by 0monnak0da: 6:02pm On Nov 18, 2019
UdechiHD:
Nothing like Biafra. It died in 1970!
Alex Ekwueme was Vice President 10 years after the civil war. We had Senate President in 1999-2007. Our father, Ojukwu contested election for Presidency and was given a national burial when he died. What remains is President and Ndigbo should work towards that.
Kanu, Onwuka and Uwazuruike and all upcoming fake freedom fighter are all enemies of Ndigbo. They are political drawback to Ndigbo in Nigeria. What the Igbo's want is Presidency, 6 states to be at par with other zones, fairness, justice and other inputs that the National conference report highlighted.
6 states is not fair to everyone when you consider the size and population
The entire SE is about the size of Oyo state
So it is not clear on what basis this "parity" is being demanded
Is it land mass,population or derivation/contribution to the public finances
If they have 6 states why can't the Ijaws?? The Efik etc?

The bitter truth is that the SE is not the equal of the SW and cannot have the same number of states

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Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by Nobody: 6:13pm On Nov 18, 2019
0monnak0da:

6 states is not fair to everyone when you consider the size and population
The entire SE is about the size of Oyo state
So it is not clear on what basis this "parity" is being demanded
Is it land mass,population or derivation/contribution to the public finances
If they have 6 states why can't the Ijaws?? The Efik etc?

The bitter truth is that the SE is not the equal of the SW and cannot have the same number of states
On parity we have the population. And outnumber all other ethnic group apart from the Hausa and Yoruba. The SE may be the size of Oyo but Igboland is far larger in size. The federal government has never been land mass conscious but population conscious. A land mass as small as Imo with oil revenue gives more to the federal purse than 7 northern States combined. A landmass as Bayelsa gives gives more to the federal government than 20 Nigerian states combined too. What does Yobe and countless northern states bring to the table? But in federal job like the army they gain more officers than an average congested Igbo state. I'm a victim of this, so I know where I'm coming from?
In joining the police, army, navy or in federal appointment we're always shortchanged. We have less Senators and HOR members than other zones. So the SE is due for another state. This was one of plea in the last SNC. Our representatives gave 4 Igbo suggested states to be added to the SE among which includes Anioma for Delta Igbo's, Orashi for Rivers Igbo's, Njaba, Adada, Aba etc. One among these states can make up a 6th Igbo state. Njaba state, a 6th Igbo state would have seen the light of the day in 2006 had it not been the fallout of the Obasanjo third term agenda. That's a topic for another day.
However, if another tribe needs a state in Nigeria, then it should be the Urhobos and not the Ijaws or Efik. As small as the Ijaws are, they have a state called Bayelsa with 8 LGA. A seven state for the SS will put the Urhobos in the mix. For now, the SS has 6 state but only the SE is voiceless with 5.
Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by 0monnak0da: 6:56pm On Nov 18, 2019
UdechiHD:
On parity we have the population. And outnumber all other ethnic group apart from the Hausa and Yoruba. The SE may be the size of Oyo but Igboland is far larger in size. The federal government has never been land mass conscious but population conscious. A land mass as small as Imo with oil revenue gives more to the federal purse than 7 northern States combined. A landmass as Bayelsa gives gives more to the federal government than 20 Nigerian states combined too. What does Yobe and countless northern states bring to the table? But in federal job like the army they gain more officers than an average congested Igbo state. I'm a victim of this, so I know where I'm coming from?
In joining the police, army, navy or in federal appointment we're always shortchanged. We have less Senators and HOR members than other zones. So the SE is due for another state. This was one of plea in the last SNC. Our representatives gave 4 Igbo suggested states to be added to the SE among which includes Anioma for Delta Igbo's, Orashi for Rivers Igbo's, Njaba, Adada, Aba etc. One among these states can make up a 6th Igbo state. Njaba state, a 6th Igbo state would have seen the light of the day in 2006 had it not been the fallout of the Obasanjo third term agenda. That's a topic for another day.
However, if another tribe needs a state in Nigeria, then it should be the Urhobos and not the Ijaws or Efik. As small as the Ijaws are, they have a state called Bayelsa with 8 LGA. A seven state for the SS will put the Urhobos in the mix. For now, the SS has 6 state but only the SE is voiceless with 5.

Please stop making assertions without FACTS

We are talking of the population of STATES regardless of whether the occupants are Igbo Yoruba or Hausa

The current 5 SE states are quite low in population and if population was the basis cannot have parity with the SW
So let us be clear what we are talking about stop mixing stuff

Are you talking of extra "Igbo State" or SE state


The SE is not the equal of the SS let us be honest
SE that used to be just 2 states compared to the former Rivers , Bendel and Rivers


Let us go back in History we had Western Region and Easter Region

The Western Region had 5 states Lagos Ogun Ondo Oyo and Bendel and the Eastern Region had 4 Imo Anambra Rivers and Cross River

Now the Eastern Region has 9 SE + Rivers,Bayelsa Croos River and Akwa Ibom


While the Western Region has 8

If there is to be an extra state in the South it should be in the SW


You cannot have equal senators with regions that are bigger in size and population

That is the simple truth

The SE and SW or NW are not equals

Again you make a ridiculous assertion of Imo state oil


It is less than Ondo state's contribution

If any state needs an extra state it is Lagos State

When 12 states were created Lagos was there and all those states bar none has been split into 2 or 3 EXCEPT Lagos

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Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by Nobody: 10:07pm On Nov 18, 2019
0monnak0da:


Please stop making assertions without FACTS

We are talking of the population of STATES regardless of whether the occupants are Igbo Yoruba or Hausa

The current 5 SE states are quite low in population and if population was the basis cannot have parity with the SW
So let us be clear what we are talking about stop mixing stuff

Are you talking of extra "Igbo State" or SE state


The SE is not the equal of the SS let us be honest
SE that used to be just 2 states compared to the former Rivers , Bendel and Rivers


Let us go back in History we had Western Region and Easter Region

The Western Region had 5 states Lagos Ogun Ondo Oyo and Bendel and the Eastern Region had 4 Imo Anambra Rivers and Cross River

Now the Eastern Region has 9 SE + Rivers,Bayelsa Croos River and Akwa Ibom


While the Western Region has 8

If there is to be an extra state in the South it should be in the SW


You cannot have equal senators with regions that are bigger in size and population

That is the simple truth

The SE and SW or NW are not equals

Again you make a ridiculous assertion of Imo state oil


It is less than Ondo state's contribution

If any state needs an extra state it is Lagos State

When 12 states were created Lagos was there and all those states bar none has been split into 2 or 3 EXCEPT Lagos

What is my business with Ondo state oil? I'm talking about a SE state with oil revenue and you're making tribal comparison. All oil producing state bring something to the federal government purse that is why you didn't see me compare oil producing state with themselves, else I would have compared Bayelsa to Ondo. But because that wasn't the purpose of my point so I didn't do that?
Yes, you made your point, but you went into dick measuring contest. And if you were objective enough, you would have made your point without such bias. To the extent that you even went as far as measuring old east and old west. Ok, why didn't you measure old south and old north. Now you see! You didn't do that, because you weren't sincere with your submission.
If it were on the basis of old regions then the north which had one region post independence shouldn't be having 19 states leaving the western and eastern region with a total of 17. But because we had northern head of state in the helm of affair such was made possible. If creation of state was done by population and economic viability, then many state in Nigeria would have no business becoming states.
The last SNC suggested the addition of more states on the basis of population and economic viabilty as well as merging nonperforming states as one. Had the SNC report been passed into law such things as resource control would have taken effect and nonperforming state will automatically be merge together, while economic viable states will stand. If for instance Ijebu state meets the requirement and the SW ask that their zone be at par with the NW with 7 states, then it stands.
Let me simply push that one side.
My point stands.
Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by 0monnak0da: 5:18am On Nov 19, 2019
UdechiHD:
What is my business with Ondo state oil? I'm talking about a SE state with oil revenue and you're making tribal comparison. All oil producing state bring something to the federal government purse that is why you didn't see me compare oil producing state with themselves, else I would have compared Bayelsa to Ondo. But because that wasn't the purpose of my point so I didn't do that?
Yes, you made your point, but you went into dick measuring contest. And if you were objective enough, you would have made your point without such bias. To the extent that you even went as far as measuring old east and old west. Ok, why didn't you measure old south and old north. Now you see! You didn't do that, because you weren't sincere with your submission.
If it were on the basis of old regions then the north which had one region post independence shouldn't be having 19 states leaving the western and eastern region with a total of 17. But because we had northern head of state in the helm of affair such was made possible. If creation of state was done by population and economic viability, then many state in Nigeria would have no business becoming states.
The last SNC suggested the addition of more states on the basis of population and economic viabilty as well as merging nonperforming states as one. Had the SNC report been passed into law such things as resource control would have taken effect and nonperforming state will automatically be merge together, while economic viable states will stand. If for instance Ijebu state meets the requirement and the SW ask that their zone be at par with the NW with 7 states, then it stands.
Let me simply push that one side.
My point stands.

You are the one that brought up Imo state oil now you are talking a bout tribal comparison.What a hypocrite!!

When you demand parity is that not comparison?
How can you talk about parity without comparison
I made my point clearly without mentioning Ondo oil.
Then you brought up Imo oil. Now you are talking rubbish about dick measuring.

Was you point about Imo oil teeth measuring?
Guy leave the hypocrisy because you are guilty of everything you complain of.



The whole point is about comparison and seeking your so called parity

You should compare SE to Ijaw or Efik groups


My point is that the SE is not the equal of the SW and so cannot have the same number of states

In fact the SW should have at least two more state s out of Lagos and Ogun.


On the basis of Regions

Your founding fathers who signed up to Nigeria at independence conceded that the North have more federal legislators than the South.


That is how it was in 1960 .

Now the East is split into 9 states and the igbo SE has 5 and the remaining 4 are split between Efik/ibibio and Ijaw.

As far as the SW is concerned we agree with the SNC number of federal legislators is the issue let the different regions decide how many states they want . In such a scenario I think the SW would gladly go back to 4 or fewer states
Whether a region chooses 100 states should be based on viability
Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by Yujin(m): 5:28am On Nov 19, 2019
UdechiHD:
I give no attention to IPOB illiterates hustling oversea. Touts who want to destroy our people. Today Biafra, tomorrow PDP.
You lots either stand for something or get lost.
Lol. We've always made our mission known to everyone. It's paid goons like you that I pity. After giving you peanuts to sell your soul, they will still demand of you your poor blood. Your situation is pitiful, impostor.
Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by Yujin(m): 5:36am On Nov 19, 2019
MetaPhysical:


This discussion is not about robbing passengers in motor park, so I do not expect an Onitsha bridge head tout will have anything of flavor to add. grin
See the criminal calling someone else a tout! Why waste my precious flavour on a stinking shithole? Lol. Your hatred will swallow you soon. Continue to deceive yourselves on this thread because discerning fellows can see it for what it really is. Loser!

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