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Is Jesus the same as God

John 1:1 in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. Jesus is the word of God, and he was with and he is God

ojaola:
Is Jesus the same as God

Yes.

ojaola:
Is Jesus the same as God

Hell No! Or, anyone here can quote any biblical verse where Jesus himself has opened his mouth and said " He is God"? So, stop deceiving yourself and your likes. Jesus is NOT God in any manner.

Quote where Jesus said He is of virgin birth. If you don't understand scriptures learn. Did He ever call Mary "mother"?
John 10:30 - " I and the Father are One"
John 14:19.....
These are direct statements of Jesus. Are you satisfied?

BroOptimist:
Hell No! Or, anyone here can quote any biblical verse where Jesus himself has opened his mouth and said " He is God"? So, stop deceiving yourself and your likes. Jesus is NOT God in any manner.

Jesus is a fictitious character invented by Paul the Roman.
God is the Totality of Existence.

Jesus is not God Almighty and it does not represent up to 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the extent of God Almighty.

They will never understand...... Jesus is just a Roman creation.. To deceive you and make you disobey the creator... "the creator says " do not have any other God BEFORE me ""... Is that difficult to obey?.. Do not make the image or likeness of anything in heaven or on earth or under the waters below the earth, do not bow down to them or serve them".. Worshipping a god created in the image of a man which is something found on earth is prohibited... It is tantamount to idolatry..

Heartbender:
Quote where Jesus said He is of virgin birth. If you don't understand scriptures learn. Did He ever call Mary "mother"?
John 10:30 - " I and the Father are One"
John 14:19.....
These are direct statements of Jesus. Are you satisfied?

If he says " he is of virgin birth", does that mean he is God? No!

Also, if you say he is God just because of John 10 : 30 that says " I and my father are one", then there are so many Gods in the Bible based on another verse in the Bible( John 17, 21:22) where Jesus himself was referring to his twelve disciples that "you (disciples) and I are one". Honestly speaking, Jesus was telling them that they should UNITE and become ONE, because, if we are to use that formula : I and my father are one, that's Jesus is God, right? Definitely, the twelve disciples are Gods, because, he said "you (disciples) and I are one, that means the twelve disciples are Gods.

So, my friend, please, stop deceiving deluding unaware people by saying Jesus is God. No! he is not and he can never be one.


And, I challenged you people earlier that you should give us one particular verse in the Bible where Jesus himself has opened his mouth and said " I'm God, or accept me as your personal Lord and Savior".

Therefore, no one should call Jesus God again except you support your claim with biblical verses.

Good day!

Heartbender:
Quote where Jesus said He is of virgin birth. If you don't understand scriptures learn. Did He ever call Mary "mother"?

(1)
John 10:30 - " I and the Father are One"

(2).
John 14:19.....
These are direct statements of Jesus. Are you satisfied?

(1)
Matt 19:5,6. "the two are one"
1Cor6:19. "the two will be one"

** John10:30 Jesus Christ speaks of being in Agreement with his Father.
OR, "Heartbender" interpretation of John10:30 meaning that John14:28,Jesus Lied.
*John10:36,Jesus refutes Trinitarian twisting of John10:30.
1 Cor11:3 further contradicts Heartbender interpretation of John10:30.

(2).
John14:19 and Matt 10:40 , Jesus Christ is making the same point.
If you have seen Jesus, you have seen the Father because Christ said " the message I teach is not mine,but belongs to him,my Father that sent me " John 7:16.
Trinitarians are twisting John14:19.

Before Jesus(PBUH) was Yahya(PBUH) and after him was Muhammad(SAW), The last and final messanger of God. Jusus was simply a Messanger of God.
God has no begotten son, God is one and has no parent either.