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Organiccourses:
I understand your issue with rottennaija, nevertheless my brother tolerance is important and every individual has the right of choice. One of my main issues is, why don't you people accept other religions' tracts and you expect them to accept your own? Don't you think it's not morally ok? Why not accept their own and then study with them and point out the defective errors in their own (if any), make them see reason for your own message with logical aurguments? Will you agree with me that NO perfect religious group today, even your own doctrines keep changing

Hmmmmmmmmm,

You sound like someone who is willing to reason!

The initiative of going to visit our neighbours UNINVITED shows we meant well and with such visit we'll form a neighbourly society.

Where intolerance come in is when they notice our virtuous attributes, most of them wish we become their friends (which is OK), but instead of keeping our rules in mind they want us to lay it off when we are willing to keep theirs in mind.

No matter what they believe we respect them by listening attentively to them and telling them our own.

Most people don't just care to listen, whenever they hear anyone talk against JWs many goes about spreading negative thoughts, since they're already harbouring resentment against us due to the stringency of our rules! Isaiah 1:18

rottennaija:
Is this where you dodge the question because it's becoming uncomfortable?

Have you forgotten that i'm not under any pressure to answer you?

I choose to and ignore at will!

For now i've tormented you enough!

Maximus69:
Have you forgotten that i'm not under any pressure to answer you?

I choose to and ignore at will!

For now i've tormented you enough!

You mean ignore the ones that are uncomfortable? It's not new.

rottennaija:
You mean ignore the ones that are uncomfortable? It's not new.

UNCOMFORTABLE!

Go questioning other religionists the way you're doing rudely with JWs and see whether they will even consider answering you?

You believe JWs are coming to beg you to join them, so you can question us like people under tension, try it with Churchgoers who don't bloody care about whatever you believe. You'll either receive an insult, curse, slap or the beating of your life!

We are the only group that can question others because of our mild temper, intelligence and respectful manner of approach!

It's individuals that religionists have poisoned their minds towards us that behaves irrationally when they see us, in places where religionists have not brainwashed the inhabitants, people welcome visitors hospitably!

Maximus69:
UNCOMFORTABLE!

Go questioning other religionists the way you're doing rudely with JWs and see whether they will even consider answering you?

You believe JWs are coming to beg you to join them, so you can question us like people under tension, try it with Churchgoers who don't bloody care about whatever you believe. You'll either receive an insult, curse, slap or the beating of your life!

We are the only group that can question others because of our mild temper, intelligence and respectful manner of approach!

It's individuals that religionists have poisoned their minds towards us that behaves irrationally when they see us, in places where religionists have not brainwashed the inhabitants, people welcome visitors hospitably!

And which if then have you not done?

rottennaija:
And which if then have you not done?

So you admitted you've been rude all along!

Can you try these with religionist?

Jehovah's Witnesses must condone all your nuisance because we're mild tempered preachers suing for peace!

Maximus69:
So you admitted I've been rude all along!

Can you try these with religionist?

Jehovah's Witnesses must condone all your nuisance because we're mild tempered preachers suing for peace!

I asked which of them you have not done. That's admitting you have been rude all along.

rottennaija:
I asked which of them you have not done. That's admitting you have been rude all along.

The point is you've been rude to Jehovah's Witnesses all along, that's why i kept reminding you that whatever you think, say or do against any member of the organization equally applies to your relatives who are Jehovah's Witnesses!

But you prefer to remain silent on that like a dog programmed to attack only strangers, whereas those living with it are strangers elsewhere!

Instead of using your God's given intellect to reason and see the need to calm your soul, you're agitating against mentioning your parents.

If they are Jehovah's Witnesses, what is the sense in accusing JWs or calling us brainwashed, cults, hypocrite and so on?

Do you agree that your own parents are equally guilty of whatever you accuse JWs for, since they're Jehovah's Witnesses members too?

Maximus69:
The point is you've been rude to Jehovah's Witnesses all along, that's why i kept reminding you that whatever you think, say or do against any member of the organization equally applies to your relatives who are Jehovah's Witnesses!

But you prefer to remain silent on that like a dog programmed to attack only strangers, whereas those living with it are strangers elsewhere!

Instead of using your God's given intellect to reason and see the need to calm your soul, you're agitating against mentioning your parents.

If they are Jehovah's Witnesses, what is the sense in accusing JWs or calling us brainwashed, cults, hypocrite and so on?

Do you agree that your own parents are equally guilty of whatever you accuse JWs for, since they're Jehovah's Witnesses members too?

Still doesn't change the fact, does it? That members of your family are still part of your old religion (assuming what you said is true), does it stop the fact that they are members of the religion you believe are worth destruction unless they belong to watchtower organisation?

rottennaija:
Still doesn't change the fact, does it? That members of your family are still part of your old religion (assuming what you said is true), does it stop the fact that they are members of the religion you believe are worth destruction unless they belong to watchtower organisation?

Of course, they're certainly going to be destroyed when God's Kingdom takes over from human government!

One thing is that both parents of mine died before i knew the TRUTH and it pains me, but i'm hoping to see them in the new world perhaps they never had someone so close to their heart like me who could easily speak convincingly with them.

The rest of my relatives aren't interested in my faith, but whenever they're gathered to do anything, they always call to make contributions both morally, physically, materially and intellectually because they've noticed how wisely i do things. The only problem they're having is saying
"God has made you a blessing for this family, but you have chosen this faith of yours to leave us"

The question i always ask them is "where do you think the wisdom came from? Do you people think it's my several years abroad in the military intelligence?"

Well i've become a Jewel in their midst because i humbly accepted wise counsels from Jehovah's Witnesses, whereas all of them are hostile towards the real source of my intelligence!

Maximus69:
Of course, they're certainly going to be destroyed when God's Kingdom takes over from human government!

One thing is that both parents of mine died before i knew the TRUTH and it pains me, but i'm hoping to see them in the new world perhaps they never had someone so close to their heart like me who could easily speak convincingly with them.

The rest of my relatives aren't interested in my faith, but whenever they're gathered to do anything, they always call to make contributions both morally, physically, materially and intellectually because they've noticed how wisely i do things. The only problem they're having is saying
"God has made you a blessing for this family, but you have chosen this faith of yours to leave us"

The question i always ask them is "where do you think the wisdom came from? Do you people think it's my several years abroad in the military intelligence?"

Well i've become a Jewel in their midst because i humbly accepted wise counsels from Jehovah's Witnesses, whereas all of them are hostile towards the real source of my intelligence!

Lol... The irony about you is the lack of humility you s patently claim to. It's written all over you and your write up.

To the point, in all you have written and yet failed to see is that irrespective irrespective of whether my parents still practise the faith and believes of JWs, it doesn't change the fact that I'm speaking about it. They practicing doesn't change it. Both before and them with with anyone else, I boldly tell them what they need to know.

So it doesn't change the fact. They practice a religion and believes that contradicts the Bible in everywhere possible. It's not you who will make me stop speaking about it. My parents couldn't and you can't.

rottennaija:
Lol... The irony about you is the lack of humility you s patently claim to. It's written all over you and your write up.

To the point, in all you have written and yet failed to see is that irrespective irrespective of whether my parents still practise the faith and believes of JWs, it doesn't change the fact that I'm speaking about it. They practicing doesn't change it. Both before and them with with anyone else, I boldly tell them what they need to know.

So it doesn't change the fact. They practice a religion and believes that contradicts the Bible in everywhere possible. It's not you who will make me stop speaking about it. My parents couldn't and you can't.

(1) Of course i'm not humble, yet i've been answering your questions.

(2)Surely each person will carry his own load.

Perhaps i should be the one asking questions from you now!

Let's test the humble spirit in you!

My own questions. No counter questions!

The Bible is made up of 66 little books, having 1189 chapters and 31,200 verses. So where did you learn how to locate the verses, Churches of Christendom or at the Kingdom Halls of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Since you were brought up in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses and you're against them now, you also believe IT'S NOT ALL RELIGIONS carrying the Bible that are Christians (including Jehovah's Witnesses) so where do you worship presently?

No antagonising or insults of any kind, just respond and i promise never to pester or blame you for whatever decision you make, you are an adult so you're entitled to your own opinion, i just want to learn from your experience!

Maximus69:
(1) Of course i'm not humble, yet i've been answering your questions.

(2)Surely each person will carry his own load.

Perhaps i should be the one asking questions from you now!

Let's test the humble spirit in you!

My own questions. No counter questions!

The Bible is made up of 66 little books, having 1189 chapters and 31,200 verses. So where did you learn how to locate the verses, Churches of Christendom or at the Kingdom Halls of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Since you were brought up in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses and you're against them now, you also believe IT'S NOT ALL RELIGIONS carrying the Bible that are Christians (including Jehovah's Witnesses) so where do you worship presently?

No antagonising or insults of any kind, just respond and i promise never to pester or blame you for whatever decision you make, you are an adult so you're entitled to your own opinion, i just want to learn from your experience!

1. Where did I first learn to locate verses? Among JWs. Should that be a problem? It shouldn't be. I was born and raised one. I grew to believe what I was taught. When I reach maturing, I got to researching more and get to know that the believes I had was wrong.

That I learn to open the bible with them doesn't change the fact that they have a false belief. Will that still change the fact that JWs is a false religion and you are worshipping humans?

If I grew up a deeper life member or a mormom or Catholic, I would still learn and know how to open the bible. It's inconsequential. It have seen people who aren't JWs, but they have a sound, strong scriptural background and I have seen JWs that don't know their left from their right when it comes to the bible.

2. You see, this is the problem with you. It's either you invent ideas you supposing know about the person (which you don't) or you twist the question into a straw man's argument.

Where have in any conversion in nairaland or with you suppose that or I said that I believe that "IT'S NOT ALL RELIGIONS carrying the Bible that are Christians".

If you observe, most people that respond to your post often remark that you create ideas or twist what they said. Then you claim higher intellect. I wouldn't call your attitude intellectual dishonesty, because I seem to realise you are not intellectual enough to exhibit it, but what I see it intellectual ignorance. You seem to lack basic understanding of issues and concepts and people's points of views.

I once encourage you to always sit back, read what I post, many times over before responding. This advice goes for other people's post.

rottennaija:
1. Where did I first learn to locate verses? Among JWs. Should that be a problem? It shouldn't be. I was born and raised one. I grew to believe what I was taught. When I reach maturing, I got to researching more and get to know that the believes I had was wrong.

That I learn to open the bible with them doesn't change the fact that they have a false belief. Will that still change the fact that JWs is a false religion and you are worshipping humans?

If I grew up a deeper life member or a mormom or Catholic, I would still learn and know how to open the bible. It's inconsequential. It have seen people who aren't JWs, but they have a sound, strong scriptural background and I have seen JWs that don't know their left from their right when it comes to the bible.

2. You see, this is the problem with you. It's either you invent ideas you supposing know about the person (which you don't) or you twist the question into a straw man's argument.

Where have in any conversion in nairaland or with you suppose that or I said that I believe that "IT'S NOT ALL RELIGIONS carrying the Bible that are Christians"

If you observe, most people that respond to your post often remark that you create ideas or twist what they said. Then you claim higher intellect. I wouldn't call your attitude intellectual dishonesty, because I seem to realise you are not intellectual enough to exhibit it, but what I see it intellectual ignorance. You seem to lack basic understanding of issues and concepts and people's points of views.

I once encourage you to always sit back, read what I post, many times over before responding. This advice goes for other people's post.

Please i'm really sorry for the bolded Sir!

Perhaps it was due to my former profession as a military intelligence officer.

Please Sir, i want you to view my comments from the point of a Muslim who doesn't know which is which amongst those claiming Christians!
If you learn how to locate Bible verses amongst Jehovah's Witnesses, i think that makes them Bible carriers too.
And if you're now saying "their beliefs are wrong" doesn't that justify the bolded that "IT'S NOT ALL THE RELIGIONS CARRYING BIBLE THAT ARE CHRISTIANS"?

Meanwhile Sir, you didn't answer the second question!
Having known now that Jehovah's Witnesses taught you how to locate passages in the 31,200 verses book, and now you've discovered that their beliefs are wrong, definitely you must be associating {Hebrew 10:24-25} with a better performing group that could be called TRUE CHRISTIANS from you own understanding of the book.

Please Sir, which religious group is that?

Maximus69:
Please i'm really sorry for the bolded Sir!

Perhaps it was due to my former profession as a military intelligence officer.

Please Sir, i want you to view my comments from the point of a Muslim who doesn't know which is which amongst those claiming Christians!
If you learn how to locate Bible verses amongst Jehovah's Witnesses, i think that makes them Bible carriers too.
And if you're now saying "their beliefs are wrong" doesn't that justify the bolded that "IT'S NOT ALL THE RELIGIONS CARRYING BIBLE THAT ARE CHRISTIANS"?

Meanwhile Sir, you didn't answer the second question!
Having known now that Jehovah's Witnesses taught you how to locate passages in the 31,200 verses book, and now you've discovered that their beliefs are wrong, definitely you must be associating {Hebrew 10:24-25} with a better performing group that could be called TRUE CHRISTIANS from you own understanding of the book.

Please Sir, which religious group is that?

Only an evil, faithless generation would ask for a miraculous sign, but the only sign I will give them is the sign of the prophet Jonah. "

rottennaija:
Only an evil, faithless generation would ask for a miraculous sign, but the only sign I will give them is the sign of the prophet Jonah. "

So where do you worship now that you left the evil religion of your parents?
That is the question.
Nobody is asking for a sign from you Sir!

Maximus69:
So where do you worship now that you left the evil religion of your parents?
That is the question.
Nobody is asking for a sign from you Sir!

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ek8tt5/breaking_news_from_japan/?

captivator, Barristter07 , Maximus69, niaralandtopuser, joyandfaith, Janosky, TATIME

It will feed into their narrative of "the end is near" and "end time persecution".

rottennaija:
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ek8tt5/breaking_news_from_japan/?

captivator, Barristter07 , Maximus69, niaralandtopuser, joyandfaith, Janosky

You keep repeating the same mistake!

Now listen to what Jehovah's Witnesses stand for as a group!

JEHOVAH is the most high God ~Psalm 83:18

He used prophets to communicate with his people using different styles in the past but in this last days he is using his only begotten son ~ Hebrew 1:1-2

Jesus (God's son) SEND PEOPLE TO PEOPLE to preach and TEACH them what they should be doing to be saved ~Matthew 28:19-20

Jesus promised that during the end time, he will APPOINT a faithful and discrete slave to continue FEEDING his followers spiritually speaking ~Matthew

Jehovah's Witnesses globally BELIEVE (TRUSTED) in that promise and we've come to notice the Governing Body as that SLAVE due to all what they've achieved during this last days with their teachings.

This should remind you of what happened when many of Jesus' followers abandoned him, with the misconception that he was suggesting Cannibalism. John 6:60-66

The twelve Apostles that all those claiming Christians today assert they're following their footsteps refused to leave and their reasons ~ We've come to know that you are the PROMISED Messiah that we've been expecting, so there is nobody else to go to! John 6:67-69

So instead of just posting the event of those learning Jehovah's Witnesses organization in Japan, why not help us (if you truthfully have something worthwhile) to show us to whom they are going? Which religious group are they going?
Who will serve as that FAITHFUL and DISCRETE SLAVE for them now that they're leaving Jehovah's Witnesses organization?

That is exactly what the gospel writer of the account of John chapter 6 never mentioned.

WHY?

Because it's obvious that those leaving are going to face UNCERTAINTY, and Jehovah's Witnesses are faithful people who completely believe (trust) in the fulfilment of God's word! Matthew 24:35

So please Sir, tell us where they're going to continue receiving the timely spiritual nourishment that's BETTER than what Jehovah's Witnesses organization is dishing out to over 8,500,000 adherents who have formed one big happy family of peace loving worshippers in a world that's filled with racism! John 17:20-23 compared to Isaiah 2:1-4, Micah 4:2-4

May God bless you as you do so!

Maximus69:
You keep repeating the same mistake!

Now listen to what Jehovah's Witnesses stand for as a group!

JEHOVAH is the most high God ~Psalm 83:18

He used prophets to communicate with his people using different styles in the past but in this last days he is using his only begotten son ~ Hebrew 1:1-2

Jesus (God's son) SEND PEOPLE TO PEOPLE to preach and TEACH them what they should be doing to be saved ~Matthew 28:19-20

Jesus promised that during the end time, he will APPOINT a faithful and discrete slave to continue FEEDING his followers spiritually speaking ~Matthew

Jehovah's Witnesses globally BELIEVE (TRUSTED) in that promise and we've come to notice the Governing Body as that SLAVE due to all what they've achieved during this last days with their teachings.

This should remind you of what happened when many of Jesus' followers abandoned him, with the misconception that he was suggesting Cannibalism. John 6:60-66

The twelve Apostles that all those claiming Christians today assert they're following their footsteps refused to leave and their reasons ~ We've come to know that you are the PROMISED Messiah that we've been expecting, so there is nobody else to go to! John 6:67-69

So instead of just posting the event of those learning Jehovah's Witnesses organization in Japan, why not help us (if you truthfully have something worthwhile) to show us to whom they are going? Which religious group are they going?
Who will serve as that FAITHFUL and DISCRETE SLAVE for them now that they're leaving Jehovah's Witnesses organization?

That is exactly what the gospel writer of the account of John chapter 6 never mentioned.

WHY?

Because it's obvious that those leaving are going to face UNCERTAINTY, and Jehovah's Witnesses are faithful people who completely believe (trust) in the fulfilment of God's word! Matthew 24:35

So please Sir, tell us where they're going to continue receiving the timely spiritual nourishment that's BETTER than what Jehovah's Witnesses organization is dishing out to over 8,500,000 adherents who have formed one big happy family of peace loving worshippers in a world that's filled with racism! John 17:20-23 compared to Isaiah 2:1-4, Micah 4:2-4

May God bless you as you do so!

Maximus again!

How do you expect atheists disguising as worshipers of God to answer that breathtaking question?
Come on, all they're INDIRECTLY saying is
STOP WORSHIPING GOD FAITHFULLY!
It's only faithful worshippers of God that do come together as one to distinguish themselves from false worshippers practicing INTERFAITH! Their hidden motive is to stop God's people from being organized as one family!
You'll see that none of this ATHEISTS will attempt responding to this your brain~disturbing post!

However, may God continue to strengthen you my brother.
Thanks for silencing this ATHEISTS!

Maximus69:
You keep repeating the same mistake!

Now listen to what Jehovah's Witnesses stand for as a group!

JEHOVAH is the most high God ~Psalm 83:18

He used prophets to communicate with his people using different styles in the past but in this last days he is using his only begotten son ~ Hebrew 1:1-2

Jesus (God's son) SEND PEOPLE TO PEOPLE to preach and TEACH them what they should be doing to be saved ~Matthew 28:19-20

Jesus promised that during the end time, he will APPOINT a faithful and discrete slave to continue FEEDING his followers spiritually speaking ~Matthew

Jehovah's Witnesses globally BELIEVE (TRUSTED) in that promise and we've come to notice the Governing Body as that SLAVE due to all what they've achieved during this last days with their teachings.

This should remind you of what happened when many of Jesus' followers abandoned him, with the misconception that he was suggesting Cannibalism. John 6:60-66

The twelve Apostles that all those claiming Christians today assert they're following their footsteps refused to leave and their reasons ~ We've come to know that you are the PROMISED Messiah that we've been expecting, so there is nobody else to go to! John 6:67-69

So instead of just posting the event of those learning Jehovah's Witnesses organization in Japan, why not help us (if you truthfully have something worthwhile) to show us to whom they are going? Which religious group are they going?
Who will serve as that FAITHFUL and DISCRETE SLAVE for them now that they're leaving Jehovah's Witnesses organization?

That is exactly what the gospel writer of the account of John chapter 6 never mentioned.

WHY?

Because it's obvious that those leaving are going to face UNCERTAINTY, and Jehovah's Witnesses are faithful people who completely believe (trust) in the fulfilment of God's word! Matthew 24:35

So please Sir, tell us where they're going to continue receiving the timely spiritual nourishment that's BETTER than what Jehovah's Witnesses organization is dishing out to over 8,500,000 adherents who have formed one big happy family of peace loving worshippers in a world that's filled with racism! John 17:20-23 compared to Isaiah 2:1-4, Micah 4:2-4

May God bless you as you do so!

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ekata4/germany_an_elder_disassociate_himself_from_the/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xoTjMUSdpY

captivator, Barristter07 , Maximus69, niaralandtopuser, joyandfaith, Janosky, TATIME

@rottennaija.

Please don't fall my hand now!

Tatime said you're not going to say anything regarding the question i posed.

Please upon all the fine works Jesus did with the help of God's holy spirit, religionists of his time said he was working for Satan {Mark3:22} does the action of those who abandoned Jesus proved those religionists right? {John 6:66}

Maximus69:
@rottennaija.

Please don't fall my hand now!

Tatime said you're not going to say anything regarding the question i posed.

Please upon all the fine works Jesus did with the help of God's holy spirit, religionists of his time said he was working for Satan {Mark3:22} does the action of those who abandoned Jesus proved those religionists right? {John 6:66} prove ? Matthew 3:22

You'll never get a response from any of them!

Your comment has completely rendered them silent {Isaiah 54:17} now all they could do is relating the example of those Christians who abandoned Jesus to convince everyone that Jesus was a Satanist!
Imagine how devastating that would have been if similar event hasn't been recorded for us to learn from experience! Roman 15:4, 1Corinthians 10:11

TATIME:
You'll never get a response from any of them!

Your comment has completely rendered them silent {Isaiah 54:17} now all they could do is relating the example of those Christians who abandoned Jesus to convince everyone that Jesus was a Satanist!
Imagine how devastating that would have been if similar event hasn't been recorded for us to learn from experience! Roman 15:4, 1Corinthians 10:11

Hmmmmmmmmm,

Praise JEHOVAH!

.

rottennaija:
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ek8tt5/breaking_news_from_japan/?

captivator, Barristter07 , Maximus69, niaralandtopuser, joyandfaith, Janosky, TATIME

You really need to be ashamed of yourself.

CAPTIVATOR:
You really need to be ashamed of yourself.

Really?

rottennaija:
Really?

Stop spreading fake news

CAPTIVATOR:
Stop spreading fake news

Which part is the fake news?