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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 3:50pm On Nov 27, 2019
Trump distances himself from Giuliani's Ukraine efforts

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-distances-himself-from-giulianis-ukraine-efforts/

President Trump tried to distance himself from his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani's efforts related to Ukraine on Tuesday in an interview with radio host Bill O'Reilly. In the interview for BillOReilly.com, O'Reilly asked the president what Giuliani was, "doing in Ukraine on your behalf."
"Well, you have to ask that to Rudy, but Rudy, I don't, I don't even know," said Mr. Trump. "I know he was going to go to Ukraine, and I think he canceled a trip," the president continued. "But, you know, Rudy has other clients, other than me. I'm one person."

Mr. Trump then denied that he had ever directed Giuliani to go to Ukraine on his behalf. However, in May the New York Times reported that Giuliani had planned to go to Ukraine that month, to urge the government there to open several investigations that could aid the president.

"There's nothing illegal about it," Giuliani told the Times in early May. "Somebody could say it's improper, and this isn't foreign policy — I'm asking them to do an investigation that they're doing already."
"[T]hat information will be very, very helpful to my client," he predicted, "and may turn out to be helpful to my government."
Giuliani was clear when speaking with the Times about the identity of that client. "My only client is the president of the United States," Giuliani said. "He's the one I have an obligation to report to, tell him what happened." Soon after the Times story was published, Giuliani canceled his trip.

Giuliani is under investigation by federal prosecutors related to his activities in Ukraine. Trump’s effort to force Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, to open investigations that could be damaging to his political rivals including former Vice President Joe Biden is the subject of the House impeachment inquiry.

Witnesses in the inquiry have testified that Giuliani directed a shadow U.S. foreign policy in Ukraine aimed at securing the investigations Trump desired.

...It doesn't take long for Trump is gradually distance himself from his personal attorney Rudy GuillIani...the case with his convicted former personal attorney Michael Cohen is still fresh...
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 3:55pm On Nov 27, 2019
Trump denied sending Giuliani to Ukraine to look for dirt on Biden. In an interview with former Fox News host Bill O’Reilly, Trump answered

“No, I didn’t direct him, but he is a warrior, he is a warrior,”
When asked what Giuliani was doing in Ukraine, Trump said;
"“Rudy has other clients, other than me,” He’s done a lot of work in Ukraine over the years.”

Trump worshippers and asslickers, didn't Trump in his perfect transcript of the Ukraine call say this;
" Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man . He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great."

"I will have Mr. Giuliani give you a call and I am also going to have Attorney general Barr call and we will get to the bottom of it."

So how do you guys reconcile the two contradictions.

It's either Trump has very poor memory of the lies he tells or he just don't care. He is so confident his worshippers would always lickers his ass.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 3:57pm On Nov 27, 2019
US - SDNY begins investigation into Rudy Giuliani - Prosecutors are looking into Giuliani’s money, into his Ukrainian ties, and into a long list of possible crimes.

The investigation into Rudy Giuliani and his associates by the US Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York (SDNY) is heating up, according to a set of new reports — and new details suggest prosecutors are looking into matters near the heart of the Ukraine scandal.

The new reports cite subpoenas sent out to various associates of President Trump’s personal attorney by SDNY. The subpoenas reveal that prosecutors are looking into Giuliani’s business and finances, that they’re exploring his contacts with former top Ukrainian officials, and that they’re investigating a host of potential crimes.

Back in October, two Giuliani associates, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, were indicted for campaign finance violations. Parnas and Fruman had already gained notoriety in the media for helping Giuliani make connections with Ukrainian officials who claimed to know of scandalous information that could be helpful to Trump. And their arrest happened in the midst of Democrats’ impeachment inquiry on that very topic.

Overall, things don’t look great for Giuliani, who says he has not even been contacted by investigators. Generally, if investigators are reaching out to lots of your associates but not to you, it may mean that you’re the investigation’s target. But, though details are still scant on the overall probe, here’s what we’ve learned about it lately.

The Wall Street Journal’s Rebecca Davis O’Brien, Rebecca Ballhaus, and Shelby Holliday had the first major story on the Giuliani associate subpoenas this week. They reported that the subpoenas they’d heard about “listed more than a half dozen potential charges under consideration.” These were:

Obstruction of justice
Money laundering
Conspiracy to defraud the United States
Making false statements to the federal government
Serving as agent of a foreign government without registering
Donating funds from foreign nationals
Making contributions in the name of another person or allowing someone else to use one’s name
Mail fraud
Wire fraud
That’s ... a lot. Many of these potential crimes relate to foreign influence — either about unregistered foreign lobbying or getting foreign money into the campaign finance system. Others are more typical crimes, such as obstruction and fraud.

https://www.vox.com/2019/11/26/20982629/rudy-giuliani-investigation-sdny-ukraine
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Lucasbalo(m): 4:04pm On Nov 27, 2019
TheShopKeeper:
US - SDNY begins investigation into Rudy Giuliani - Prosecutors are looking into Giuliani’s money, into his Ukrainian ties, and into a long list of possible crimes.

The investigation into Rudy Giuliani and his associates by the US Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York (SDNY) is heating up, according to a set of new reports — and new details suggest prosecutors are looking into matters near the heart of the Ukraine scandal.

The new reports cite subpoenas sent out to various associates of President Trump’s personal attorney by SDNY. The subpoenas reveal that prosecutors are looking into Giuliani’s business and finances, that they’re exploring his contacts with former top Ukrainian officials, and that they’re investigating a host of potential crimes.

Back in October, two Giuliani associates, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, were indicted for campaign finance violations. Parnas and Fruman had already gained notoriety in the media for helping Giuliani make connections with Ukrainian officials who claimed to know of scandalous information that could be helpful to Trump. And their arrest happened in the midst of Democrats’ impeachment inquiry on that very topic.

Overall, things don’t look great for Giuliani, who says he has not even been contacted by investigators. Generally, if investigators are reaching out to lots of your associates but not to you, it may mean that you’re the investigation’s target. But, though details are still scant on the overall probe, here’s what we’ve learned about it lately.

The Wall Street Journal’s Rebecca Davis O’Brien, Rebecca Ballhaus, and Shelby Holliday had the first major story on the Giuliani associate subpoenas this week. They reported that the subpoenas they’d heard about “listed more than a half dozen potential charges under consideration.” These were:

Obstruction of justice
Money laundering
Conspiracy to defraud the United States
Making false statements to the federal government
Serving as agent of a foreign government without registering
Donating funds from foreign nationals
Making contributions in the name of another person or allowing someone else to use one’s name
Mail fraud
Wire fraud
That’s ... a lot. Many of these potential crimes relate to foreign influence — either about unregistered foreign lobbying or getting foreign money into the campaign finance system. Others are more typical crimes, such as obstruction and fraud.

https://www.vox.com/2019/11/26/20982629/rudy-giuliani-investigation-sdny-ukraine



Taliban Trump is now distancing himself from Giuliani when he spoke to Bill O'Reilly yesterday saying he didn't send Guilliani to Ukraine despite the fact that he said it to the President of Ukraine in the transcript the White House released. Trump is toxic and he doesn't care about anyone except himself. How many of his associates have been indicted and found guilty in three years in office while there's no single indictment in President Obama eight years in office. Trump is the worst President in American history and the sad thing is that Giuliani will spend his last years on Earth in jail for a worthless and despicable con man.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 4:15pm On Nov 27, 2019
wirinet:
Trump denied sending Giuliani to Ukraine to look for dirt on Biden. In an interview with former Fox News host Bill O’Reilly, Trump answered

“No, I didn’t direct him, but he is a warrior, he is a warrior,”
When asked what Giuliani was doing in Ukraine, Trump said;
"“Rudy has other clients, other than me,” He’s done a lot of work in Ukraine over the years.”

Trump worshippers and asslickers, didn't Trump in his perfect transcript of the Ukraine call say this;
" Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man . He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great."

"I will have Mr. Giuliani give you a call and I am also going to have Attorney general Barr call and we will get to the bottom of it."

So how do you guys reconcile the two contradictions.

It's either Trump has very poor memory of the lies he tells or he just don't care. He is so confident his worshippers would always lickers his ass.


...The unclassified transcript released by the White House showed TreasonTrump mentioning Rudy's name on pages 3-5...along with Attorney General Barr...

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 4:53pm On Nov 27, 2019
Chairman Nadler has sent a letter to Trump today, reminding him of his and his counsel's right to attend the impeachment hearing.

Nadler: "At base, the President has a choice to make: he can take this opportunity to be represented in the impeachment hearings, or he can stop complaining about the process. I hope that he chooses to participate in the inquiry ... as other Presidents have done before him."

...The hearing is scheduled for Tuesday December 4 2019...all Trump supporters are cordially invited...

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:53pm On Nov 27, 2019
BraniacX:
if you were in Nigeria you'd appreciate how divided we are
Being divided does not make bubu Trump!
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 5:58pm On Nov 27, 2019
Lucasbalo:
Taliban Trump is now distancing himself from Giuliani when he spoke to Bill O'Reilly yesterday saying he didn't send Guilliani to Ukraine despite the fact that he said it to the President of Ukraine in the transcript the White House released. Trump is toxic and he doesn't care about anyone except himself. How many of his associates have been indicted and found guilty in three years in office while there's no single indictment in President Obama eight years in office. Trump is the worst President in American history and the sad thing is that Giuliani will spend his last years on Earth in jail for a worthless and despicable con man.

@lucasbabie. why do you call Trump Taliban Trump?
Does Trump support the Taliban.
Did Obama arm Caliph Baghdadi?
Did Obama send $$$ to Ayatollah Khamenei?
Did Obama aid Mohamed Morsi the Muslim Brotherhood former president of Egypt?

Did Obama trade in a deserter Berghdal for 5 High Value Guantanamo Taliban terrorists who immediately went back to fighting the Americans?

Did Obama try to oust Bashir Assad of Syria so that ISIS could take over Syria?

Did Obama oversee the death of Gaddafi so that ISIS could take over Libya


As usual with leftists you will accuse me of being a bigot, racist,homophobe, etc. Instead of a simple yes or no to my query.

Then you will ignore the moloch paedophile Jeffrey Epstein island visits by Bill Clinton 26 times on his Lolita Express plane 5 of those visits after ditching Secret Service. And Hillary Clinton 5 visits to the paedo island.

And then you have the audacity to smear Trump that he slept with a porn star whose only evidence to her ties with him is a photo. Prince Andrew was photod with a. girl who was below 18 at the time and she was deposed saying she was in a sexxxual geographic escapades with him. He has been releaved of all his Royal duties by the way.
to

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 6:03pm On Nov 27, 2019
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BraniacX:
after your graduation from trump university how am I expected to make sense to you? undecided
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Another load of rubbish

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 6:38pm On Nov 27, 2019
Trump wants to designate Mexican drug cartels as terrorist groups

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-mexico-cartels-1.5374926

U.S. President Donald Trump said he would designate Mexican drug cartels as terrorist groups for their role in trafficking narcotics and people, prompting a speedy request for talks by Mexico.
"They will be designated ... I have been working on that for the last 90 days. You know, designation is not that easy, you have to go through a process, and we are well into that process," Trump said in an interview that aired on Tuesday with former Fox News host Bill O'Reilly.
Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador on Wednesday rejected the "interventionism" of Trump.
Lopez Obrador said Mexico would take up the issue after the U.S. Thanksgiving holiday on Thursday and that he had asked his foreign minister, Marcelo Ebrard, to lead talks.
"Co-operation, yes, intervention, no" Lopez Obrador said in a morning news conference when asked about Trump's comments.
Earlier, Mexico's foreign ministry issued a statement saying it would quickly seek a high-level meeting with U.S. State Department officials to address the legal designation, as well as the flow of arms and money to organized crime.
"The foreign minister will establish contact with his counterpart, Mike Pompeo, in order to discuss this very important issue for the bilateral agenda," the ministry said.


...This is about the one thing I can agree with Trump on, his policies on illegals and with drug dealing cartels from Mexico.....(before his supporters starts to call me a leftist...although I'm left-handed)...These cartels are 100% terrorist organizations....they are into sex trafficking, human trafficking, manipulation of US immigration laws, drug trafficking, etc...hopefully this measure is approved and happens swiftly...The Mexico's government is literally all run by cartels...

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 6:46pm On Nov 27, 2019
basilico:


@lucasbabie. why do you call Trump Taliban Trump?
Does Trump support the Taliban.
Did Obama arm Caliph Baghdadi?
Did Obama send $$$ to Ayatollah Khamenei?
Did Obama aid Mohamed Morsi the Muslim Brotherhood former president of Egypt?

Did Obama trade in a deserter Berghdal for 5 High Value Guantanamo Taliban terrorists who immediately went back to fighting the Americans?

Did Obama try to oust Bashir Assad of Syria so that ISIS could take over Syria?

Did Obama oversee the death of Gaddafi so that ISIS could take over Libya


As usual with leftists you will accuse me of being a bigot, racist,homophobe, etc. Instead of a simple yes or no to my query.

Then you will ignore the moloch paedophile Jeffrey Epstein island visits by Bill Clinton 26 times on his Lolita Express plane 5 of those visits after ditching Secret Service. And Hillary Clinton 5 visits to the paedo island.

And then you have the audacity to smear Trump that he slept with a porn star whose only evidence to her ties with him is a photo. Prince Andrew was photod with a. girl who was below 18 at the time and she was deposed saying she was in a sexxxual geographic escapades with him. He has been releaved of all his Royal duties by the way.
to


...'TalibanTrump' was given that moniker because he was planning of secretly hosting the Talibans at Camp David close to the week of the September 11 anniversary...which he evetually 'called off'...because a US soldier was killed by the Talibans...The Talibans are the ones who provided cover for Osama bin Laden, the mastermind of the September 11 2001 Twin Towers destruction where terriorists flew airplanes into the buildings and part of the Pentagon...


Trump says he 'called off' peace talks with Taliban over attack
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/09/trump-called-peace-talks-taliban-attack-190908014028311.html
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Lucasbalo(m): 8:14pm On Nov 27, 2019
basilico:


@lucasbabie. why do you call Trump Taliban Trump?
Does Trump support the Taliban.
Did Obama arm Caliph Baghdadi?
Did Obama send $$$ to Ayatollah Khamenei?
Did Obama aid Mohamed Morsi the Muslim Brotherhood former president of Egypt?

Did Obama trade in a deserter Berghdal for 5 High Value Guantanamo Taliban terrorists who immediately went back to fighting the Americans?

Did Obama try to oust Bashir Assad of Syria so that ISIS could take over Syria?

Did Obama oversee the death of Gaddafi so that ISIS could take over Libya


As usual with leftists you will accuse me of being a bigot, racist,homophobe, etc. Instead of a simple yes or no to my query.

Then you will ignore the moloch paedophile Jeffrey Epstein island visits by Bill Clinton 26 times on his Lolita Express plane 5 of those visits after ditching Secret Service. And Hillary Clinton 5 visits to the paedo island.

And then you have the audacity to smear Trump that he slept with a porn star whose only evidence to her ties with him is a photo. Prince Andrew was photod with a. girl who was below 18 at the time and she was deposed saying she was in a sexxxual geographic escapades with him. He has been releaved of all his Royal duties by the way.
to
What kind of crack are you smoking calling me Lucasbaby ?. Whatever it is , it surely is not good for your mental health.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by BraniacX(m): 8:44pm On Nov 27, 2019
budaatum:

Being divided does not make bubu Trump!
oh but if only you knew! If only you lived, actually live in bubu's Nigeria
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by BraniacX(m): 8:45pm On Nov 27, 2019
garetz:
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Another load of rubbish
for a trump university graduate, no surprises undecided
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 9:17pm On Nov 27, 2019
[s]
BraniacX:
for a trump university graduate, no surprises undecided
[/s]
juvenile crap

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 10:58pm On Nov 27, 2019
TheShopKeeper:
Chairman Nadler has sent a letter to Trump today, reminding him of his and his counsel's right to attend the impeachment hearing.

Nadler: "At base, the President has a choice to make: he can take this opportunity to be represented in the impeachment hearings, or he can stop complaining about the process. I hope that he chooses to participate in the inquiry ... as other Presidents have done before him."

...The hearing is scheduled for Tuesday December 4 2019...all Trump supporters are cordially invited...
The whistle-blower needs to be invited, together with Adam Shifty Shiff's Staff.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 11:06pm On Nov 27, 2019
Will Trump take advantage of the House Judiciary Committee’s offer for him to gave legal counsel present at Wednesday’s impeachment hearing?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 11:23pm On Nov 27, 2019
PDPGuy:
Will Trump take advantage of the House Judiciary Committee’s offer for him to gave legal counsel present at Wednesday’s impeachment hearing?
Just another Clown show after the preceding one. Alright, Nadler! rise and shine. The real show will start at the Senate Trials grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 11:35pm On Nov 27, 2019
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BraniacX:
how so? From your specialty as specified by your MSc in stupidity from tRump uni? undecided
[/s]
The rantings of a nutcase

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CTPlayer: 12:02am On Nov 28, 2019
obixcel:
Just another Clown show after the preceding one. Alright, Nadler! rise and shine. The real show will start at the Senate Trials grin
The Dems probably don't have the balls to vote on impeachment in the house. They will just make excuses and call everyone else racist, bigot, homophobe, nazi, and then blame the GOP.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Lucasbalo(m): 12:12am On Nov 28, 2019
CTPlayer:
The Dems probably don't have the balls to vote on impeachment in the house. They will just make excuses and call everyone else racist, bigot, homophobe, nazi, and then blame the GOP.
CTPlayer, my favorite Nazi propaganda chief in the mode of Josef Goebel.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 12:31am On Nov 28, 2019
Greatest Tweet ever! Expect the usual outrage by the MSM and liberals as well grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wowcatty: 6:10am On Nov 28, 2019
Happy Thanksgiving!

They said since the impeachment train has derailed, the next hoax the Democrats are cooking is about Trump collusion with the Turks. Also, Michelle Obama is being weighed for Democrats presidential candidate.

The deepstate is going to go crazy with all kid of crazy stuff to distract people from the IG report on dec 9. Though the IG report is going to be a tiny boom compared to Durham's and Barr's booms.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 6:56am On Nov 28, 2019
Lucasbalo:
Jobless Obixcel, 12.31am in Nigeria and you are still posting junk. You see why some people are in perpetual state of poverty. Won't you go to work tomorrow or are you being paid by the Taliban Trump ?.
Happy Thanksgiving

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 6:57am On Nov 28, 2019
wowcatty:
Happy Thanksgiving!

They said since the impeachment train has derailed, the next hoax the Democrats are cooking is about Trump collusion with the Turks. Also, Michelle Obama is being weighed for Democrats presidential candidate.

The deepstate is going to go crazy with all kid of crazy stuff to distract people from the IG report on dec 9. Though the IG report is going to be a tiny boom compared to Durham's and Barr's booms.
Hahaha! Desperation is in the air

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by BraniacX(m): 9:14am On Nov 28, 2019
garetz:
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The rantings of a nutcase
how are the acoustics from the depths of your ass you pull your lame pathetic one liners from? cheesy typical t-R-ump uni grad! IQ of a flobberworm undecided
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by BraniacX(m): 9:18am On Nov 28, 2019
wowcatty:
Happy Thanksgiving!

They said since the impeachment train has derailed, the next hoax the Democrats are cooking is about Trump collusion with the Turks. Also, Michelle Obama is being weighed for Democrats presidential candidate.

The deepstate is going to go crazy with all kid of crazy stuff to distract people from the IG report on dec 9. Though the IG report is going to be a tiny boom compared to Durham's and Barr's booms.
delusion much? undecided
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by BraniacX(m): 9:19am On Nov 28, 2019
obixcel:
Greatest Tweet ever! Expect the usual outrage by the MSM and liberals as well grin
you are the character in the first pic
The second one is fixing orange outang's tweet grin

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 9:27am On Nov 28, 2019
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BraniacX:
how are the acoustics from the depths of your ass you pull your lame pathetic one liners from? cheesy typical t-R-ump uni grad! IQ of a flobberworm undecided
[/s]
Typical gibberish from a whacko

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