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Persisting in sin by Rashduct4luv(op): 2:43pm On Nov 19, 2019

Question

What will happened to that person doing same sin again and again ?.

Answer
Praise be to Allaah.
Firstly:

If a person commits sin time after time, his sin is forgiven every time if he follows his sin with repentance – if his repentance each time is sincere. The evidence that it is permissible to repent time after time is the fact that those who apostatized from Islam at the time of Abu Bakr were brought back to Islam by Abu Bakr and he accepted that from them, although he knew that they had been kaafirs, then they entered Islam, then they went back to kufr, then they came back to Islam. All the Sahaabah accepted their repentance despite the fact that what the apostates had done was worse than what a sinning Muslim does. So the repentance of a sinning Muslim, even if he sins repeatedly, is more likely to be accepted than repentance on the part of a kaafir time after time.

But what we are saying is subject to the condition that the first and subsequent cases of repentance be sincere and from the heart, not simply an outward show of repentance.

What we are saying should not be understood to mean that we are encouraging sin and that it may be committed time after time, and that the Muslim should take the mercy of Allaah and the fact that Allaah accepts repentance as an excuse to commit sin. No, our intention is to encourage the sinner to repent time after time. We want to put the mind of the Muslim who wants to come back to Allaah at rest, and tell him that the gate of mercy is open, and that Allaah’s forgiveness is greater than his sin, so he should not despair of the mercy of Allaah and he should keep turning to Him.

Al-Bukhaari (7507) and Muslim (2758) narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said that his Lord said: “My slave commits sin, then he says, ‘O Allaah, forgive me my sin.’ Then Allaah says, ‘My slave has committed a sin, but he knows that he has a Lord Who forgives sin and takes away sin. So I forgive My slave.’ Then he commits sin again, and says, ‘O Allaah, forgive me my sin.’ Then Allaah says, ‘My slave has committed a sin, but he knows that he has a Lord Who forgives sin and takes away sin. So I forgive My slave.’ Then he commits sin again, and says, ‘O Allaah, forgive me my sin.’ Then Allaah says, ‘My slave has committed a sin, but he knows that he has a Lord Who forgives sin and takes away sin. So I forgive My slave.’ …”

Al-Haafiz Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali said:

Ibn Abi Dunya narrated with his isnaad that ‘Ali said: “The best of you is every tempted one who repents (i.e., every time he is tempted by this world, he repents).” It was said, “What if he sins again?” He said, “He should ask Allaah for forgiveness and repent.” It was said, “What if he sins again?” He said, “He should ask Allaah for forgiveness and repent.” It was said, “What if he sins again?” He said, “He should ask Allaah for forgiveness and repent.” It was said, “For how long?” He said, “Until the Shaytaan is defeated.”

Ibn Maajah narrated a marfoo’ report from Ibn Mas’ood which says: “The one who repents from sin is like the one who did not commit sin.” (Classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh Ibn Maajah, 3427).

It was said to al-Hasan: Shouldn’t one of us feel too shy to ask his Lord to forgive his sin, then do it again, then ask for forgiveness, then do it again? He said: The Shaytaan wishes that you would have this attitude, so do not tire of asking for forgiveness.

And it was narrated that he said: I do not think this is anything other than the attitude of the believers, i.e., every time a believer sins, he repents.

‘Umar ibn ‘Abd al-‘Azeez said in his khutbah: O people, whoever commits sin, let him seek the forgiveness of Allah and repent. If he does it again, let him seek the forgiveness of Allah and repent, and if he does it again, let him seek the forgiveness of Allah and repent. For it is sin which hangs around a person’s neck, and doom comes from persisting in sin.

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Re: Persisting in sin by TheExecutioner: 9:38am On Nov 29, 2019*

Sigh. Yet another contradiction. Is it that hard to have consistent moral standards? A religion that says one thing in the morning and a different thing in evening.

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Re: Persisting in sin by kogi2010: 9:53am On Nov 29, 2019

englishmart:
Terrorism is of Islam and should stop

and 99.9% of Christians are perverted transgressor right?

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Re: Persisting in sin by TheExecutioner: 9:57am On Nov 29, 2019

In what sense do you mean "perverted?" What about that funny religion which has a "god" who rewards his followers with eternal sex?

kogi2010:
and 99.9% of Christians are perverted transgressor right?

Re: Persisting in sin by Unghost: 10:04am On Nov 29, 2019

TheExecutioner:
In what sense do you mean "perverted?" What about that funny religion which has a "god" who rewards his followers with eternal sex?

where was it stated huh

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Re: Persisting in sin by Abbeyrazaq20(m): 10:05am On Nov 29, 2019

Jazaqumulahu khairan fil duniyah wal akhira

For those of Christians that commented on this thread, may the prayer u saw before u commented come true

The prayer goes thus (are you a Muslim) and u agreed

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Re: Persisting in sin by abbey086(m): 10:13am On Nov 29, 2019

englishmart:
Terrorism is of Islam and should stop

Honestly speaking, I don't blame Seun for putting the Oath on the Islamic section. Just notice the trends on nairaland, on Sundays, you would hardly find the Muslims commenting on those Topics meant for Christians, but on Fridays, the Topics meant for Muslims alone to enlightening them about their religion would be dominated by the Christians saying rubbish and trash about what they know nothing about nor concern them, what some people hold in high esteem. You people are becoming so irritating. Is that what your religion all about?
You people are never like the Jesus (Prophet Isah) you "Claimed" to follow.
You claimed that Muslims are intolerant and you are peace loving people, but opposite is what we have here on Nairaland, you are nothing but hypocrites.

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Re: Persisting in sin by TheExecutioner: 10:14am On Nov 29, 2019

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Unghost:
where was it stated

Re: Persisting in sin by englishmart(m): 10:19am On Nov 29, 2019

abbey086:
Honestly speaking, I don't blame Seun for putting the Oath on the Islamic section. Just notice the trends on nairaland, on Sundays, you would hardly find the Muslims commenting on those Topics meant for Christians, but on Fridays, the Topics meant for Muslims alone to enlightening them about their religion would be dominated by the Christians saying rubbish and trash about what they know nothing about nor concern them, what some people hold in high esteem. You people are becoming so irritating. Is that what your religion all about?
You people are never like the Jesus (Prophet Isah) you "Claimed" to follow.
You claimed that Muslims are intolerant and you are peace loving people, but opposite is what we have here on Nairaland, you are nothing but hypocrites.

At the bolded part of your lying post, keep deceiving yourself. Meanwhile, continue your jihad war, bro, no bro.

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Re: Persisting in sin by abbey086(m): 10:25am On Nov 29, 2019

englishmart:
At the bolded part of your lying post, keep deceiving yourself. Meanwhile, continue your jihad war, bro, no bro.

Just continue, you think by doing so will make people hate their religion and like yours abi?
I always read and ignored them, but I was forced to comment because they are becoming so irritating and nuisance.

So irritating set of people.

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Re: Persisting in sin by Newnas(m): 10:33am On Nov 29, 2019

Abbeyrazaq20:
Jazaqumulahu khairan fil duniyah wal akhira

For those of Christians that commented on this thread, may the prayer u saw before u commented come true

The prayer goes thus (are you a Muslim) and u agreed

Aameen

Re: Persisting in sin by Newnas(m): 10:35am On Nov 29, 2019

abbey086:
Just continue, you think by doing so will make people hate their religion and like yours abi?
I always read and ignored them, but I was forced to comment because they are becoming so irritating and nuisance.

So irritating set of people.

Leave the deluded zonbe.

Even his slave masters in white house tried it and the result was that people in Europe and USA flowed into Islam.

Re: Persisting in sin by englishmart(m): 10:41am On Nov 29, 2019

abbey086:
Just continue, you think by doing so will make people hate their religion and like yours abi?
I always read and ignored them, but I was forced to comment because they are becoming so irritating and nuisance.

So irritating set of people.

well, I'm a pagan. Isn't that what your religion calls non-muslims ?

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Re: Persisting in sin by abbey086(m): 11:26am On Nov 29, 2019

englishmart:
well, I'm a [b]pagan. Isn't that what your religion calls non-muslims [/b] ?

At the bolded, so shall it be
Say Amen

Re: Persisting in sin by Rashduct4luv(op): 11:35am On Nov 29, 2019

TheExecutioner:
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Da'if Hadith.

It was narrated from Abu Umamah that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
“There is no one whom Allah will admit to Paradise but Allah will marry him to seventy-two wives, two from houris and seventy from his inheritance from the people of Hell, all of whom will have desirable front passages and he will have a male member that never becomes flaccid (i.e., soft and limp).’”

Grade : Da’if (Darussalam)
English reference : Vol. 5, Book 37, Hadith 4337
Arabic reference : Book 37, Hadith 4481

https://sunnah.com/urn/1294400

Re: Persisting in sin by Rashduct4luv(op): 11:35am On Nov 29, 2019

TheExecutioner:
Sigh. Yet another contradiction. Is it that hard to have consistent moral standards? A religion that says one thing in the morning and a different thing in evening.

[img]https://images./3P9qYLXaToV8HdqMQCfhl2.jpg[/img]

Where is the contradiction?

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Re: Persisting in sin by abbey086(m): 11:37am On Nov 29, 2019*

englishmart:
well, I'm a pagan. Isn't that what your religion calls non-muslims ?

No wonder, now knowing you better.
Attacking other peoples' faith, after finding out that he has been deceived by his cherished religion's"make believe" miracles
Your eyes just opened now grin

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Re: Persisting in sin by TheExecutioner: 12:07pm On Nov 29, 2019

Actually, The hadith from Sunan al-Tirmidhi has been graded hasan sahih gharib (a “fair, sound, single-chained hadith”).

Additionally there is not only one "72 virgins" hadith. There are many quoted narrations that have been graded both hasan (good) and sahih (authentic). For example:

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Rashduct4luv:
Da'if Hadith.

It was narrated from Abu Umamah that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
“There is no one whom Allah will admit to Paradise but Allah will marry him to seventy-two wives, two from houris and seventy from his inheritance from the people of Hell, all of whom will have desirable front passages and he will have a male member that never becomes flaccid (i.e., soft and limp).’”

Grade : Da’if (Darussalam)
English reference : Vol. 5, Book 37, Hadith 4337
Arabic reference : Book 37, Hadith 4481

https://sunnah.com/urn/1294400

Re: Persisting in sin by englishmart(m): 12:09pm On Nov 29, 2019

abbey086:
At the bolded, so shall it be
Say Amen

amen

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Re: Persisting in sin by TheExecutioner: 12:12pm On Nov 29, 2019

The punishment for illegal sexual intercourse is supposed to be stoning isn't it?

And the punishment for stealing is supposed to be amputation of the hand used for the theft isn't it?

So what allah is saying is that even after doing these evil things, adulterers and thieves will be allowed to enter islamic paradise simply because they identify as muslims.

Rashduct4luv:
Where is the contradicti bn?

Re: Persisting in sin by Khaleell001(m): 12:14pm On Nov 29, 2019

TheExecutioner:
Sigh. Yet another contradiction. Is it that hard to have consistent moral standards? A religion that says one thing in the morning and a different thing in evening.

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There's no contradiction in Islam.
Your have a corrupt understanding of what repentance truly is quoting that narration.

You should know in Islam we don't do selective preaching.

The only sin that can't be forgiven in Islām is associating partners in worship with Allah- shirk only if one refuses to repent from such act before his death.
As for other sins they are subject to His mercy.

Re: Persisting in sin by TheExecutioner: 12:46pm On Nov 29, 2019

Read the Hadith very carefully. It is clearly saying that the criteria for making it into paradise in Islam is that you continue to identify as muslims and you never leave the islamic belief system.

As long as you believe in allah and muhammad, your place in islamic paradise is guaranteed even if you're a thief or an adulterer.

Khaleell001:
There's no contradiction in Islam.
Your have a corrupt understanding of what repentance truly is quoting that narration.

You should know in Islam we don't do selective preaching.

The only sin that can't be forgiven in Islām is associating partners in worship with Allah- shirk only if one refuses to repent from such act before his death.
As for other sins they are subject to His mercy.

Re: Persisting in sin by Khaleell001(m): 2:53pm On Nov 29, 2019

TheExecutioner:
Read the Hadith very carefully. It is clearly saying that the criteria for making it into paradise in Islam is that you continue to identify as muslims and you never leave the islamic belief system.

As long as you believe in allah and muhammad, your place in islamic paradise is guaranteed even if you're a thief or an adulterer.

You see,that's how you interpret it.
And I told you before that taking one hadeeth to prove a case is actually a sign of acute ignorance.
This was the same thing those Boko Haram guys did.
They pick one verse or hadeeth and leave others so that they can give their wicked interpretation to it.

Re: Persisting in sin by Rashduct4luv(op): 4:09pm On Nov 29, 2019

TheExecutioner:
The punishment for illegal sexual intercourse is supposed to be stoning isn't it?

And the punishment for stealing is supposed to be amputation of the hand used for the theft isn't it?

So what allah is saying is that even after doing these evil things, adulterers and thieves will be allowed to enter islamic paradise simply because they identify as muslims.

What the hadith is saying is entirely different from your interpretation.

The believe in Islam is that all those who associate gods with Allah till they die will enter hell and will never come out.

But the adulterer, fornicators, thiefs, etc. who has even the smallest faith in Allah will enter Paradise if Allah forgives them

If Allah does not pardon him, then they enter hell for a period of time and later enter Paradise.

Re: Persisting in sin by Rashduct4luv(op): 4:11pm On Nov 29, 2019

TheExecutioner:
Actually, The hadith from Sunan al-Tirmidhi has been graded hasan sahih gharib (a “fair, sound, single-chained hadith”).

Additionally there is not only one "72 virgins" hadith. There are many quoted narrations that have been graded both hasan (good) and sahih (authentic). For example:

The one you quoted before was da'if and this is another one you are throwing up. Why all these lies?

Re: Persisting in sin by TheExecutioner: 4:35pm On Nov 29, 2019

Lies? These are the Hadith of your prophet as collected by his Sahabas. Yours truly has nothing to do with this!

Meanwhile, I've already told you that there are dozens of hadiths dealing with this subject. Here is a Sahih Hadith:

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Rashduct4luv:
The one you quoted before was da'if and this is another one you are throwing up. Why all these lies?

Re: Persisting in sin by TheExecutioner: 4:42pm On Nov 29, 2019

Thank you for confirming what I have been saying all along.

You have just proved that in Islm there is no incentive for a muslim to change his moral standards because the worst punishment he can fear is a temporary stay in hell fire.

Therefore the only real sin that a muslim has to avoid if he doesn't want to remain in hell fire for eternity is to continue identifying as a muslim, shikena! grin

Any other sin, be it fornication or adultery will be punished by a temporary stint in hell, followed by an eternity of sex in paradise! grin

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Rashduct4luv:
What the hadith is saying is entirely different from your interpretation.

The believe in Islam is that all those who associate gods with Allah till they die will enter hell and will never come out.

But the adulterer, fornicators, thiefs, etc. who has even the smallest faith in Allah will enter Paradise if Allah forgives them

If Allah does not pardon him, then they enter hell for a period of time and later enter Paradise.

Re: Persisting in sin by Rashduct4luv(op): 5:38pm On Nov 29, 2019

TheExecutioner:
Thank you for confirming what I have been saying all along.
You have just proved that in Islm there is no incentive for a muslim to change his moral standards because the worst punishment he can fear is a temporary stay in hell fire.
Therefore the only real sin that a muslim has to avoid if he doesn't want to remain in hell fire for eternity is to continue identifying as a muslim, shikena!
Any other sin, be it fornication or adultery will be punished by a temporary stint in hell, followed by an eternity of sex in paradise!

So you think the fire of Hell is a joyful place. And who said anything about identifying as Muslim? Is having faith in Allah same as identifying as Muslim?

I would say this and you would say i say that. Stop the lies.

If someone commits sins like rape and is killed for it as in the hadd punishment then he is free of that sin....

Re: Persisting in sin by Rashduct4luv(op): 5:41pm On Nov 29, 2019

TheExecutioner:
Lies? These are the Hadith of your prophet as collected by his Sahabas. Yours truly has nothing to do with this!

Meanwhile, I've already told you that there are dozens of hadiths dealing with this subject. Here is a Sahih Hadith:

Please state your problem with these? Is it the enjoyment mentioned or what?

Re: Persisting in sin by TheExecutioner: 5:48pm On Nov 29, 2019

Thanks for finally accepting the truth that it is actually your prophet who said these words!

My "problem" is that I find it hard to accept the idea of God behaving like a common love-vendor and using sex as a reward system grin

Rashduct4luv:
Please state your problem with these? Is it the enjoyment mentioned or what?

Re: Persisting in sin by Rashduct4luv(op): 5:50pm On Nov 29, 2019

TheExecutioner:
Thanks for finally accepting the truth that it is actually your prophet who said these words!

My "problem" is that I find it hard to accept the idea of God behaving like a common love-vendor and using sex as a reward system

So what does your three Gods each have for you in your Paradise?

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