sinkhole:
this guy is "absolute ignoramus"
External PG examiners come from outside the institution where the program resides, this is to ensure that proper things are being done through what is called pier review process.

An ignoramus indeed

Arsenella007:


You are not in the university system so you don't know what you are saying. The universities generate alot of money, I mean millions.. They don't remit nothing to the government, yet the government pays salaries, provides tetfund for research, infrastructure, also research grants that's is not accounted for, etc.. What happens to the school fees, the acceptance fees, the other IGRs? Most universities don't even pay the allowances the are supposed to pay their workers, cut their salaries..

You are wrong. The money generated by Federal Universities are remitted to the government through Remita.

Arsenella007:


God,na wah.. Simple Google would help. CBN generates money from alot of ways and remits it to the Federation account..or consolidated revenue account. Universities never remit to the government, so don't even say that. Ndic generates and remits.. Please get your facts right before you argue.. I'm tired of answering this over and over

https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/amp/lifestyle/103423/cbn-highest-revenue-generating-agency-accountant-general.html

If you read dis link too, you'll see NNPC was listed as not "remitting operating surplus" too for about five years. Shall we then say that NNPC dis not generate revenue for the govt in five years? Pls go and understand what they're talking about not just jumping up and down with links you don't understand

thundafire:
just imagine dey want to be paid to supervise M.sc and PhD dey are mad so der salaries is for wat then

Can you hear yourself? Kindly ask if you don't understand, it doesn't hurt!

Xisnin:

I hope you are not really in the university system!
It isn't a rocket science to compare university revenue with their expenditure.
It doesn't require emotions or lashing out to do just pure numbers.

What exactly does "millions" or "a lot of money" mean?

I would have taken you seriously if you called for total privatization of the universities
so that the government can be free of all obligations.

Public universities are like public hospitals, they were not primarily designed for profit.

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Ur PAPA send you to school....leave noisemakers alone

post=84543773:
Na criminals full dis ASUU sha.

Whether you guys like it or not, y'all will be captured on IPPIS.

A new and transparent Nigeria is what we voted for.
No more business as usual .

God bless Nigeria.


A case of, we are not the only thieves, those ones are thieves also.

This is what you considered an arguement Mr Edo.
No wonder!
SMH!!
Going further to reply you will be consider a waste of time,
No offense.
Take care!

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Running your lose mouth isn't helpful to PMB

seguntijan:
Aspects not captured by the IPPIS:
As submitted by Abubakar Sabo, ASUU Chair UDUS:
1. Provision for external examination for PhD and MSC students.
2. Provision for the payment of External assessment to which many would not have benefitted from and become professors.
3. Provision for casual staff such as those cleaners and gardeners that keep the university environment clean.
4. Provision for adjunct and part time lecturers who are professionals in their field but could not take full time appointment because they are already working elsewhere.
5. Provision for international experts who would want to come from world recognised universities to come and establish new programs in our universities and share their wealth of experience with us.
6. Provision for post graduate supervision which was completely removed from the platform
The fact of the matter is that the government is saying universities should use their IGR to cater for all these and should this become a reality, universities will be left with no option but to re introduce tuition fees and charge higher fees from the students. Then we will now know that an average Nigerian cannot afford higher education again. That is world bank policy for you. The general idea is to localise our universities and make them unaccessible globally all in the name of a policy for payments of salary.
https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2019/11/30/ASUU-queries-fg-why-are-staff-of-cbn-ndic-firs-not-on-ippis/

But ASUU does not pay cleaners and gardeners

thundafire:
just imagine dey want to be paid to supervise M.sc and PhD dey are mad so der salaries is for wat then

I'm not a lecturer but I see a lot of people like you talking from the angle of jealousy. If the terms of their employment says they should be paid for supervision how is dat a crime?
What you should do is strive to become a lecturer too so you can earn such monies.
Truth is govt in Nigeria always acts deaf and beyond reason. If the monies ASUU is saying IPPIS will deprive them of are genuine pay, why can't govt look for a way to address it instead cajoling them to accept IPPIS by hook or crook?
You may become a lecturer tomorrow and I wonder how you'll feel when your colleagues tell you how much you could have earned while on sabbatical if not for IPPIS

Kdamilola:


What?! 75k for where? Most Federal Universities pay below 30k, except for 100 levels that are newly admitted that pay slightly higher.

you see am!
This is what ASUU is trying to sustain, knowing that most Nigerians are poor and they need somebody to fight for them.

Coldie:

But ASUU does not pay cleaners and gardeners

ASUU does not pay anybody, not even her members!
Cleaners and gardeners keep the university environment conducive for learning and research and yet IPPIS does not consider them useful!

Universities don't generate funds, but i paid for academic gowns through remita to the federal government accounts... some people need go through university.

please can you also answer the quest posted by ASSUP?

ANTONINEUTRON:
Can someone explain to me why ASUU don't want this IPPIS stuff

Arsenella007:


You are not in the university system so you don't know what you are saying. The universities generate alot of money, I mean millions.. They don't remit nothing to the government, yet the government pays salaries, provides tetfund for re



search, infrastructure, also research grants that's is not accounted for, etc.. What happens to the school fees, the acceptance fees, the other IGRs? Most universities don't even pay the allowances the are supposed to pay their workers, cut their salaries..

Tetfund is not actually from FG

jahsharon:


When next you catch a thief, release him and let him go because there are thousands of thieves free on the streets. It is ASUU today, tomorrow it will be CBN, FIRS, NNPC, e.t.c.. It is the employer that says how he wants to pay you, it is not you the employee that will tell the employer how the employer should pay you. The IPPIS is one of the great initiatives of the ineffectual buffoon Goatluck Jonathan and the puff-puff cheeked world bank fraudster Ngozi Okonjo-Iwealla, but the two thieves do not have the political will to implement it because it will open even their own skeletons. Now the people's general is implementing it and you are saying nonsense. Just know that Buhari will not shift ground, if you doubt it, then ask El-Zakzaky, Dasuki Sambo and Sowore.

You'll just be throwing insults around based on ignorance. IPPIS started in 2006 and was to be implemented in phases. So I don't know how Jonathan and NOI have done anything wrong about it. If anything, you can only comment buhari for not rushing it like he did TSA which led to liquidity issues in 2016, one of the reasons for the then recession

I used to ask the same question too, why doesn't ASUU want the IPPIS system until i spoke with a lecturer friend over the weekend. The truth is just like ASUU said their are alot of peculiarities concerning ASUU that's not captured under the IPPIS system. For example, my friend is currently doing his PHD programme and according to university rules, while undergoing his studies, he is supposed to be paid based on what is known as "study leave" but under the IPPIS system such modalities is not captured, same also for a visiting lecturer who goes to work in another university. i think the government ought to shift ground a lil and allow for dialogue and compromise, Or else this issue would spill over and affect innocent students.

Arsenella007:


You are not in the university system so you don't know what you are saying. The universities generate alot of money, I mean millions.. They don't remit nothing to the government, yet the government pays salaries, provides tetfund for research, infrastructure, also research grants that's is not accounted for, etc.. What happens to the school fees, the acceptance fees, the other IGRs? Most universities don't even pay the allowances the are supposed to pay their workers, cut their salaries..

You should have mentioned just a few things you think the universities do to make millions.

Federal Universities do not generate a lot of money at all

FIRS joined IPPIS long time ago.

ANTONINEUTRON:
Can someone explain to me why ASUU don't want this IPPIS stuff

They don't want it cos most lecturers lecture in more than one federal uni and with this ippis they wouldn't be able to. I think that's why though I'm not certain

shogz89:
don't you know how to read financial statements ni, check the screen shot,, you will see where the profit is coming from now.. Or you want me to be explaining each lines for you?

You don't understand.
I am not saying they don't have positive cashflow. I ask, what WORK do they do?

ogtavia:


If you say NNPC generates money for the FG, yeah, true, if you say NPA generates money for the FG yeah, true, but the CBN's core mandate doesn't include generating money for the FG rather it manages the FG's funds and the economy. How can it remit money to itself?

NDIC is Nigeria Deposit Insurance Corporation and it's mandate doesnt include making money for the FG.

Of course there are services these agencies provide through which IGR comes in, some of which are remitted to government and the other percentage utilised by these agencies as required. But they do not necessarily make money for the government.

Equating these agencies to the university somehow answers ASUU questions about IPPIS. Universities have internally generated revenues atimes worth billions, some of which are remitted to the government but they are not listed as money making agencies for government. So if the CBN, NDIC are allegedly exempted from IPPIS, why not universities?

look at how u are talking out of ignorance with so much confidence. Read the CBN and NDIC Acts before assuming

shadeyinka:

You don't understand.
I am not saying they don't have positive cashflow. I ask, what WORK do they do?

i am going to assume you are not a finance person.. cashflow isnt the same as income statement. when you pick an income statement you can tell the kind of business an organisation does and where their income comes from. Going by the screenshot i sent, its evident that CBN gets its income from, interests from borrowings, fees from financial institutions like commercial banks etc( it could be annual subscription, fines etc), commissions and other operating income.

thatigboman:
look at how u are talking out of ignorance with so much confidence. Read the CBN and NDIC Acts before assuming

Statement of CBN Core Mandate
The mandate of the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) is derived from the 1958 Act of Parliament, as amended in 1991, 1993,1997,1998,1999 and 2007.

The CBN Act of 2007 of the Federal Republic of Nigeria charges the Bank with the overall control and administration of the monetary and financial sector policies of the Federal Government.

The objects of the CBN are as follows:

ensure monetary and price stability;
issue legal tender currency in Nigeria;
maintain external reserves to safeguard the international value of the legal tender currency;
promote a sound financial system in Nigeria; and
act as Banker and provide economic and financial advice to the Federal Government.
Consequently, the Bank is charged with the responsibility of administering the Banks and Other Financial Institutions (BOFI) Act (1991) as amended, with the sole aim of ensuring high standards of banking practice and financial stability through its surveillance activities, as well as the promotion of an efficient payment system.

In addition to its core functions, CBN has over the years performed some major developmental functions, focussed on all the key sectors of the Nigerian economy (financial, agricultural and industrial sectors). Overall, these mandates are carried out by the Bank through its various departments

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Arsenella007:


You are not in the university system so you don't know what you are saying. The universities generate alot of money, I mean millions.. They don't remit nothing to the government, yet the government pays salaries, provides tetfund for research, infrastructure, also research grants that's is not accounted for, etc.. What happens to the school fees, the acceptance fees, the other IGRs? Most universities don't even pay the allowances the are supposed to pay their workers, cut their salaries..

You know nothing.

All school fees go into the federal government TSA.

Thats why you pay thru Remita. You think its schools that take school fees?

School fees as it is currently charged cannot be enough to pay university staff. There must be an increase before it will be sufficiient to maitain the universities. Government is subsidising it your fees by adding the[rs.

ANTONINEUTRON:
Can someone explain to me why ASUU don't want this IPPIS stuff

Recieve sense

Nwadiuto247:



You know nothing.

All school fees go into the federal government TSA.

Thats why you pay thru Remita. You think its schools that take school fees?

School fees as it is currently charged cannot be enough to pay university staff. There must be an increase before it will be sufficiient to maitain the universities. Government is subsidising it your fees by adding the[rs.

Ignorance is bliss.. Because school fees is being paid through remita it automatically means its going into the federation account.. Go and learn what remita is and means...Universities do not remit.. U have not given me any proof, only talking about Remita. Mtchew, I'm tired of this argument

I do not know how many times this has to be said

Ippis is simply a front end for oracle.

Any form. Of remuneration for any category of employee can be executed through the platform. All you need to do is engage your consultant /admin to create the standard forms


Salary, overtime, bonus, leave allowance, 13th month, turkey allowance, weekend job, temporary supervisor allowance, anything can be covered.

Full employee, contract employee, consultant, casual employee, vendor. All are covered


ASUU should stop embarrassing themselves. Professionals are looking at their silly arguments and laughing. They are digging a bigger hole for themselves with these silly arguments

Couzy21:

Well, it is a bit complicated more than this, but a major reason is that lecturers go on what is called sabbatical for lecturing jobs outside or political appointment, in which they are payed double salaries by the government, IPPIS will control such by stopping their former salary, and nobody likes his means of income to be cut off.

I work in federal government agency which operates in a University model. Our staff go on sabbatical and do all that....yet we are in IPPIS

IPPIS platform provides for all that and even the ones they dont have, they can add. ASUU has other agenda

The Nigerian senators should also be on the fvcking IPPIS

Agboriotejoye:

I'm not a lecturer but I see a lot of people like you talking from the angle of jealousy. If the terms of their employment says they should be paid for supervision how is dat a crime?
What you should do is strive to become a lecturer too so you can earn such monies.
Truth is govt in Nigeria always acts deaf and beyond reason. If the monies ASUU is saying IPPIS will deprive them of are genuine pay, why can't govt look for a way to address it instead cajoling them to accept IPPIS by hook or crook?
You may become a lecturer tomorrow and I wonder how you'll feel when your colleagues tell you how much you could have earned while on sabbatical if not for IPPIS

so Mr defender so u support a Prof earning 560k monthly in a university and also earning the same in another university as a visiting lecturer dats y Federal government want to curb it,do u know dat a PA if a VC received 230k monthly and his tax is just 3k c if u don't know VC now wouldn't have access to all those monies dey steal in dey name of salaries paying Ghost workers and also lecturers day were sacked or dead dey still collect der salaries hiddenly

thundafire:
so Mr defender so u support a Prof earning 560k monthly in a university and also earning the same in another university as a visiting lecturer dats y Federal government want to curb it,do u know dat a PA if a VC received 230k monthly and his tax is just 3k c if u don't know VC now wouldn't have access to all those monies dey steal in dey name of salaries paying Ghost workers and also lecturers day were sacked or dead dey still collect der salaries hiddenly

No no. Don't misunderstand me pls. I'm not saying FG should not implement IPPIS for unis and polys. What I'm saying is whatever genuine grievances they have, especially those that involve their conditions and terms of service should be addressed before they are moved to the platform. IPPIS should not be implemented like a one size fits all. Just because we're not affected does not mean we should support the erosion of people's legitimate pay due to some bad practices.
FYI, a poly where I live just did recruitment where people paid min of 200k to the rector and his cohorts before getting employed. There's no way IPPIS can curb this kind of malpractice for example. So, what I'm saying is while it is being implemented, it should not become a scourge to inflict hardship on innocent workers.

Agboriotejoye:


No no. Don't misunderstand me pls. I'm not saying FG should not implement IPPIS for unis and polys. What I'm saying is whatever genuine grievances they have, especially those that involve their conditions and terms of service should be addressed before they are moved to the platform. IPPIS should not be implemented like a one size fits all. Just because we're not affected does not mean we should support the erosion of people's legitimate pay due to some bad practices.
FYI, a poly where I live just did recruitment where people paid min of 200k to the rector and his cohorts before getting employed. There's no way IPPIS can curb this kind of malpractice for example. So, what I'm saying is while it is being implemented, it should not become a scourge to inflict hardship on innocent workers.

IPPIS is meant for salaries alone and government approved allowances not were VC will do anyhow it's to curb dey excesses am part of dey IPPIS crew and do u know wat uni saying dey have upto 6k staffs but lecturing and non-lecturing but as we are doing dey enrollment dey have just 4k + so tell me where dey other money went