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| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:45am On Dec 02, 2019 |
ornicus:It's not abt the software itself. Who is going to authorize the admin to add the name of a staff from Ghana on adjunct here for example to the system. How will he be added? What you said abt admin can actually work, but the problem seems to be that you have to be properly documented to be on the platform and from what we've seen so far, the people doing the documentation come from Abuja. Imagine UNIMAID wants to take a staff from Ibadan on sabbatical, does that mean he has to go to Abuja for documentation first of all? Let's spread it to a visiting lecturer from Africa or Europe. |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:49am On Dec 02, 2019 |
thundafire:Good!! That is what IPPIS is meant to curb. And it is extremely good. But what I'm saying is the issue of sabbatical, adjunct, study leave, visiting lecturers, research grants etc should also be looked into. BTW i'm told that some staff like cleaners, security, drivers are not being captured on IPPIS. How are those to be taken care of now? |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Nobody: 11:49am On Dec 02, 2019 |
He is not in the university system and that's why he gave a rough but wrong estimate of school fees at N350k. I am in the University system. I had previously lectured in a private university, before leaving to a federal university. And I can tell you categorically that tuition fees for courses Medicine, Pharmacy, Nursing, and Engineering courses will definitely be nothing less than N2,000,000 per session if you really want Federal universities to be financially autonomous. You can take my estimate to the bank any day. Some of the federal universities pay N50,000,000 monthly for power alone. Factor in the cost of daily cleaning, gardening, and so on. Then you should visit laboratories at faculties of pharmacy, colleges of medicine and faculties of engineering and get a rough idea of how many billions of naira are needed per year for these courses to be effectively run the way they should. Private universities charge as much as N3,000,000 for medicine yearly, and yet they don't have enough money to tool up their laboratories. The government should decide once and for all. If functional education is what we really want in Nigeria, the government should sit up and start investing the right amount of money. In fact if you don't trust universities to manage the huge investment, let the National Assembly do it directly. We don't care, as much as we can freaking do our job. And if the government will not be able to fund education (which it has not been able to do so since the time of Yar'adua, the last time money was actually injected...and not the TETFUND which is not really money from government intervention, unfortunately Buhari has been claiming TETFUND money as if it is coming from the Federal government), then the students should be charged the amount proportionate to their courses. Any one who cannot fund a course should not put in for the course, or should approach the government to make education loan available. Cheers. Arsenella007: |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by thatigboman: 11:55am On Dec 02, 2019 |
ogtavia:and in providing those services dont earn income? |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Nobody: 11:59am On Dec 02, 2019 |
Agboriotejoye:guy, abeg no dey fall hand like this. we are in the age of information. do you want to claim there is no internet in your university? if you want to chase yankee visa, do you not do the entire registration process online? they only need people on ground for the first data capture of the entire community. even that can be done online. you are the ones who are trying to make the simple complex. https://www.jamb.org.ng/ if small pikins can register with their data on jamb's portal, what is the issue? all the organizations i listed, they employ and discharge staff all the time. you think companies with offices all over nigeria do not transfer staff all the time? |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:05pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
ornicus:You're talking theory I'm talking practical. Is there anywhere were they register for IPPIS online? That is a possibility but not the present reality. Even now, if there's an issue with ur documentation, you have to go to Abuja for rectification. Ask any civil servant you know. Some have been on half pay due to this IPPIS issues. If online registration is available, I'm sure it will solve a lot of fraud in the system but let it be implemented the right way. |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Nobody: 12:12pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
Agboriotejoye:Oga, sorry, you are the one, like Nigerian lecturers everywhere who is talking theory. For your information, my last employer a downstream major with offices and employees all over the country, has been using oracle for the last 8 years. I am just trying to humor you. I am actually embarrassed for your continued insistence that there is something complex or different in the way ASUU pays employees and contractors. Understand this. Multinationals, enterprise organisations use oracle and sap. Your petty issues are insignificant and only highlight your luddite reasoning Go and ask any of your students who did it in the it dept of a blue chip company to introduce you to their oracle administrator. Right now you sound like a bunch of old men insisting that you will use a typewriter instead of Microsoft word, or a paper machie model instead of a 3D printer or a tee square instead of cad software I am sure you are still bullying students with FORTRAN and COBOL. |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by ogtavia(m): 12:14pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
thatigboman:Now you get my point. Primarily they are not profit making in operation. Operating surplus is not profit. |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by 2019elections: 12:21pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
NigPatriot:I'm saying universities generate income to counter her claim. Govt funds CBN too and that's why it's government owned. No institution be it educational or financial in Nigeria funds itself. |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by 2019elections: 12:33pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
Nwadiuto247:This is so wrong. U know how many students de enrol each year? See, if nor for corruption, the tuition the students pay is sufficient to run a school. |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:35pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
ornicus:All dis ur grammar shows you don't understand anything about what we're telling you. When did ASUU become an employer or client. You just want to blow your own trumpet. I don't care whether you worked in NASA or Oracle itself. What I'm telling you is that there are grievances that are genuine as it concerns IPPIS. You're here talking as if you're the one who invented Oracle. Abeg it don do. No need to talk further. |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by shadeyinka(m): 12:36pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
shogz89:I guess you didn't understand my point. Let me spell it out. Let's assume that the FG kept 1trillion Naira with me and I fixed it in a bank. At an annual return rate of 6%, I'll be having a return of N6 billion Naira per annum. This looks impressive on the surface but the question is what work am I doing to generate the N6 billion? Same is the question I have asked. The CBN money is the FG's money. Federal government made a law that mandates banks to "Bank" with the CBN. Every banking transactions end up with the CBN having their cut: so I ask what real work does CBN do that warrant that staff be paid well beyond fellow accountants and economists working in other agencies? Its also like FIRS, even if they don't leave their offices, business owners will come to pay their taxes because without that, they can't get any government contracts. Theirs is even a little better than that of the CBN. |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Nobody: 12:39pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
Agboriotejoye:And these are the people teaching our kids. No wonder public universities are churning out unemployable graduates. |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:44pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
ornicus:Who asked you to take ur kids to public universities. With all ur mouth, one will think your kids are in UK or US. If you think you can do better why don't you apply for a lecturing job. |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by joyandfaith: 12:46pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
if certain mda are excluded from ippis,ASUU should not join ippis.all workers should be treated equally whether they involve in generating monies for government or not. discrimination in civil service is causing disaffection among workers across mda and it is a reason for corruption. |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by zanga420: 12:47pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
Arsenella007:Madam, if universities are to generate funds for themselves, school fees go reach N500k. Have you asked yourself why private universities are costly compared to private ones? Let FG answer, why is NDIC, CBN, FIRS etc not enrolled. That's strong a good question that needs answer |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by joyandfaith: 12:50pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
shadeyinka:you are absolutely correct. |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Nobody: 12:51pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
Agboriotejoye:Why would I want to be a lecturer, seeing the backward mentality you are all manifesting from the top down? Why do you think anyone with money would even choose to send thier kids to school in Ghana rather than a public Nigerian institution? Like I said professionals are looking at you and laughing. You think you are making sense, but all you are doing is shouting to the world, we are ancient dinosaurs completely intimidated by contemporary technology Please carry on trumpeting your ignorance and dancing naked in the market place. Just understand, there is no unique situation you can claim. Oracle is a mature platform. The best you will have is teething problems that came with adoption.but there will be no real problems because oracle is not a beta or rc, but a full fledged, mature platform |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by LibrarianD: 12:52pm On Dec 02, 2019*. Modified: 4:33pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
post=84543773:You're simply myopic regarding this issue. The fact that you could call a whole gathering of intellectuals "criminals" reveals your stock. You would have done better comparing what ASUU is fighting for with what is obtainable elsewhere. Reading up on the laws and acts governing Nigeria universities will widen your horizon on vital issues as this. |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by thundafire: 12:55pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
Agboriotejoye:just like working in an agency Sabbatical leave is dey same thing as taking, maternity leave and others cs u still receiving ur salary and other things attached just dat sabbatical last a year,taking a study leave u need to cater dat for ursef, visiting lecturers will be paid from dey school based on agreement while research Grant is totally different from others either u apply in ur school or through a donor body |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by SolarHub(m): 1:01pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
ASUU... very terrible group Check my signature now |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Agboriotejoye(m): 1:08pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
ornicus:Hahahahaha. Look at this ignoramus. If you know the caliber of people in ASUU, i'm sure you don't even measure up to half of some of them. If you feel you're better, I challenge you to apply to a university let's see what level they'll put you dat is if you're even employed self. Shouting professional up and down as if he can write one line of program. Most of those professors you see heading gov parastatals are ASUU members FYI including the VP. So stick ur empty pomposity up ur rotten behind |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Nobody: 1:14pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
Agboriotejoye:Shebi you said you people will develop your own erp software? Oya fire away. We are waiting. Jokers . You think this is cold room? Did we not go to school under you jokers who made us write copy and paste algorithms? Who exactly do you think you are fooling? It is only undergraduates you have power over in your lofty incompetence. You will join ippis. If you like wail and make up more and more ridiculous claims about the special arcane nature of ASUU operations. |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Arizonaguy(m): 1:20pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
seguntijan:which autonomy are they ranting about The autonomy to work part time when you are being paid as a full time The autonomy to be enrol on different and multiple payroll A lecturer is a civil servant and whoever include an autonomy in their enabling act is senseless and evil ASUU is freaking corrupt and needs to shut up then enrol in that IPPIS They are humming cos it won't be business no more |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Agboriotejoye(m): 1:21pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
ornicus: I see where ur pain is now. So you can only do copy and paste algorithms. Eyaaa. Sorry eehn. But you should have taken life by the scruff of the neck and developed urself now? Or do you think Oracle developer was taught how to develop it by his lecturers. If you're dull, you're dull. There's nothing any lecturer can do abt it. Even Einstein!! BTW, while you're doing copy and paste, some other students are progressing. ASUU don't mind giving you a shoulder to lean on. That's what we're here for ![]() |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Nobody: 1:26pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
Agboriotejoye:guy - anyone working today is self taught now. i am an engineer, and i am what i am today, inspite of you clowns, not because of you. continue living in your empty delusions as your ship sinks around you. continue churning out unemployable graduates who have to be extensively retrained the preferred graduates in any blue chip company today, are those from private universities. most of those from public universities today - na struggle to train them. and going by your antics, i can see why. you have not changed. continue with your 1970s curriculum and mentality |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Agboriotejoye(m): 1:40pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
thundafire:Dat means you support hike in schl fees then I assume? |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by thatigboman: 1:50pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
shadeyinka:I see your issue is with how much CBN staff earn, not about the issue on ground. you, what work do you do that will make u earn more than a labourer or a mason or even a woman cooking mama put? |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Agboriotejoye(m): 1:51pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
ornicus:Bla bla bla. You're still struggling to be coherent with all the tension and emotion tied up in ur chest. So you think you could have been better than you are if the lecturers open ur head, drill through the concrete thick skull and download AI algorithms inside the halfwit brain you carry around. You should be thankful your lecturers are too smart to do that. Doing dat will make you mad since IQ is not upgraded simply by loading information. The students in private universities are still being taught by the lecturers of public universities; either directly as visiting lecturers, or indirectly by the product of public universities. So, if they are more employable than you, I suggest you check ur head, or better still hold the govt responsible to provide better amenities in public schools to aid ur slow self. Again, you can blame lecturers if it makes you sleep without nightmares. They're glad to help in our own little way. ![]() P.S: All over the world, fresh graduates are trained in any industry they are employed. It is only delusional ignoramuses like you that hope the university is a training ground or a robotics factory. Pele tie ![]() |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by ejimatic: 2:05pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
seguntijan:. IPPS is essentially on salary. All that are listed above are taken care of from the IGR of each school. ASUhas no logical reason for not joining the new salary system. |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Ajibade123(m): 2:12pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
All these grammar in one sentence is that we will be going for strike soon anyway do you wish to study or work in Australia, Canada or US check my signature for more info |
| Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by thundafire: 2:30pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
Agboriotejoye:I don't support cs federal government tells dem how to charge |
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